Famous Roland Drum Patterns with the TR-6S (606/707/808/909)
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CONTENTS OF THE VIDEO:
0:00 Intro
0:30 The TR-6S
1:37 TR-6S Grooves
1:48 808 Grooves
2:49 909 Grooves
3:51 606 Grooves
5:07 707 Grooves
6:49 Should I do a TR-6S Blindfold test?
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Famous Roland Drum Patterns with the TR-6S (606/707/808/909)
I programmed 12 famous Roland drum patterns into the TR-6S, here's what they sound like.
The question is, does this little box do justice? In some ways the TR-6S is clearly better than all of these vintage Roland drum machine, the price being a big one!
Shoutout to (at) alliebrowniest (Instagram) for the animations!
#roland #tr6s #drummachine #review
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I love the sounds of the 707
Me too they’re so nostalgic
@@LiamKillen Indeed. They sound great with electronica but I've noticed they also sound pretty darn good with hard modern edm. Especially that bass drum. 👌🏾
Agree! Tr 6s 707 sounds more authentic than mc707.
I really like the snappiness of the 606. I prefer the 808 but the 606 sounds really tight.
Yeah I find 606 and 808 are very similar
@@LiamKillen I’m really glad I watched your video because for some reason I had a completely false impression in my mind of what a 606 sounds like. Lots of my friends own 606 clones, such as the RD6. But I’ve foolishly dismissed its usefulness due to my long held false impression of its sound. I am a devout 808 fan but prefer a hybrid 808/909 analog machine. The MFB Tanzbar, with its punchy 909 bd and mixed 808/909 snare is my go to drum console. I use it on nearly every track I write as the basis for its substructure. Then I try to incorporate my own handmade Eurorack modules to act as a mortar to blur the otherwise very tight groove. A moire of imperfectly balanced tones gives me the “error” that I crave in my music.
Lots of groove ... great walk through as always .. thorough .. helpful.. versatility plus .. fabulous .. thanks !
My pleasure !
Fine classic drum loops! nice video about the TR :)
Thx grabule !
I love the 808 …that TR-6S though….sharp.
Yeah it’s pretty slick! 808 would just be an impressive piece to own
@@LiamKillen I got the RD-8 when I got the OP-1...B&H had a crazy deal around Christmas where if you bought an OP-1 it was only about $50 more for the combo with the RD-8 (yes please), but I haven’t opened it because the desk real estate it consumes compared to the 6s. I know eventually (probably August 1st lol) I’ll open it and try it out, and I’m not regretting the purchase.at.all...but the 6s just has it all
almost...it’s missing voices- only 6 of em which is limiting
@@LiamKillen that is true. I’ve been pairing it with other also small pieces of gear to make up for missing voices...PO’s, op-1/z, and Volcas. We bought a house and will be moving in a couple weeks and I plan to set up one of the rooms as a small studio....and then I can set up a table big enough for the RD-8!!
thx for hte informative video and demo of the sounds
My pleasure- cheers! 📈
707 drums work really well for Synthwave as an alternative to the Linn Linndrum/LM-1
Oh yeah absolutely! :-)
@@LiamKillen in Reason there's a REALLY good Synthwave kit in Rhythmic. Made of 505 drums of all things
I remember that the drums from closer by Nine Inch Nails sounding amazing. I had no idea it was a 606. I would like to hear the comparison between 606 and a TR - 6S.
That one’s actually affordable! lol- i may have to end up renting a machine 🤔
The drums at Closer are definitely not coming from a 606.
@@Native_Alien Do you Know what that kick and snare on Closer are? I love that sound.
@@andywalkswithme9550 No, sorry, but no matter what they used I guess they did a lot of editing and post processing...
@@andywalkswithme9550 Strongly rumoured to be a sample of Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing, with some layered R-70 sounds on top and a lot of gated reverb
great video! specifically recreating all of those famous songs drum machine patterns!
Thank u! 🍻
I got my TR-6S for $399 before the price went up! WOW I got a great deal!
The price went up? Really? Wait did I list the price in CAD? I think that's what it is.
@@LiamKillen I'm not exactly sure but I remember when I pre-ordered mine from Sweetwater in October 2020 I got it for $399 then about a month later I saw them listed at $409 USD. I think $550 CAD is right tho
I love gear with faders !
Yes! I’m also really into the mc 707 for that same reason
Tear success is awesome. Visited one fellow jammer in his studio, digged the engine a bit, picked the machine for 300. Fair price. It’s portable and sounds huge. Ratio drum-palette/size is very good. Previous owner got himself tr-8s and happy with it. But i need compact size and battery/usb power more than 12 channels.
I do want a tr 8s
@@LiamKillen go for it, one of the best machines for live and jams. For some reason, i’m thinking of tr6s + mc101 combo. For more powerful gig or studio setup 707 + tr8s will be perfect, but they are heavier and require more careful handling.
funky dope thanks cuz
My pleasure :-)
Thanks for the video. Great question too. I would like a 909 comparison.
I’ll consider this Emily!
thank you for watching 🙂
This is so cool! Do you use a daw or just layer them on the machine?
This is all raw through the tr 6s 🙂
This is awesome! Would love to see how you actually programmed them in. Was this an entirely manual process or did you use Live to extract the pattern and then emulated it in the TR-6S? Would love that video on this if you haven't already made one and are looking for video ideas 😄
All is considered! Thx for watching 😊
Im pretty sure the Snare in Closer was done by triggering the noise oscillator on the SH-101 via CV Gate
Perhaps.
In nine inch nails closer they layered the drums with “Nightclubbing” By Iggy Pop. I can never unhear this.
😝
@liam. I see the wav files but the patterns/kits/stems
(Full Mixes + Stems (164MB unzipped)). aren't there. the file is 43Mb.
love this btw. just added the tr6 to my op/z. trying to figure out how I can sequence the tr6s with the opz as the power of the trig components is so cool. it will make the great sound of the roland fly.
Wait what...? really? No one has had this issue yet 🤔 Thanks for letting me know!
@@LiamKillen Yeah Im seeing only wav files samples. Are there supposed to be patterns in the grooves d/l?
@@LiamKillen Same here :( Just the wav files
Moi c'est pareil 😢 je n'ai que de fichier wav pas de motif pour la tr6s
bro pls do the tests and use a spectromiter in the video too after the 'blind fold part' wud be a dope video. maybe do behringer vs roland
I don't do Behringer products !
Thanks .. also what would go with tro8 and korg monologue .. I need advice X dj Fifty z
Hmm...those two alone are an amazing combo! Lots to work with :-)
@@LiamKillen thanks for quick answers .. brilliant
haha 1 min in....I like this guy !
Hey thanks! 😊
So there's no 727 though? If not does Roland offer an official kit you could load onto it? Also I've noticed their website lists some sample packs but it only says TR-8S, would they still be compatible with this??
There is a 727. Im not sure about 8s -> 6S compatibility
Question, is it possible to save and import/export drum patterns? For example if I wanted the sexual healing pattern would it be possible to save it and load it up again at a later date?
Absolutely!
@@LiamKillen thanks so much for your reply!! Was really wanting to grab this to accompany live jams with my arturia microfreak, but I may have also fallen for the mc101. Do you have any videos on the mc101? Thanks so much
Hi Liam, I am new to your chanel and relatively new to music gear/producing. I am planning to buy a yamaha reface dx and I am looking for a portable drummaschine to combine it with. I wanna jam/create Synthie-Pop, Acid House, Funk, disco, lofi filter house…everything groovy (Chromeo drums are my favs), so the drum sounds should go into those directions. The Roland 707 has the perfect sounds for me, that 80s vibe and claps are awesome. I wanna be able to lay down drum patterns easy, quick and performe with it (using FXs..) and just looping around, having fun with a drummaschine and a synth. I am not so much into modelling every beat. Should go quick in order to jam with the reface over it.
What drummaschine/gear would you recommend? Is the Roland TR-6s the right choice?
What looper would you recommend to loop the reface dx and the drummaschine? Something simple. I wanna stay dawless and portable (batteries).
Thanks, awesome channel by the way😊
Tr 6s is a great choice for sure! If you want a similar thing but with more voices you could also go with the tr 8s
@@LiamKillen thanks for your reply. Do you have any recommendations for a Looper to loop the sounds of the reface dx over the drums? Something simple. Or can I connect the reface with the tr6s and loop the sounds in the tr6s?
The cheapest way to go is with your DAW! Logic + Ableton are two great choices
@@LiamKillen thanks, yes thats true^^. But if I wanna go with an external looper, what could you recommend? Since the drums loop automatically on the trs6, only the sounds of the reface have to be looped, or?
In that case so think you’d have to find a looper pedal or sample the yamaha riff through another sampling instrument like maybe the MPC One/op1.
I read a review on Amazon that in the "cons" section stated this ONLY runs on batteries. Is this true? Thanks man.
Whaaaaaa? No you can power it via USB!
How fun is the 6s through the Microcosm?!? I’m working on a tic tac video (TikTok lol) and that’s today’s pairing. I’ve been trying this 6 days of 606 and yesterday I played the 6s clean and had the JU-06a arpeggiating through Microcosm, but today is just 6s 606 kit through Microcosm...and it’s just, ahhhhh, wonderful
Yessss it’s so good! Hey do you know of a way to bounce tr 6s drums to daw while somehow bussing microcosm Fx? cuz that would be amazing
@@LiamKillen wish I could help you out there...but I’m kinda DAWless...not for, like, hipster reasons or anything. I haven’t had a computer in many many years (I’ve been doing everything from iPhone/iPad) and I never really learned how to use a fully functional DAW (though I’m sure I could catch on if I could get to one). I’ve been a brass player, a bass player and dabbled in hardware synths/drum machines for most of my 40 years of breathing. I will eventually make the switch, I’m going to help my 13 year old build his first computer when the next school year kicks in and he’s slightly as interested in music production as he is gaming. He learned sax this past year and I handed down my Volca Sample, Monologue, and OG JU-06 to teach him electronic music
ok gotcha! You’ve some mega experience there haha
Is it normal for 808 snare to have weird noisey ring after being triggered. Mine never sounds like demos it’s like a wash behind it. Seems more pronounced with the snappy feature. I checked kit Fx and master to make sure nothing was on it but I usually just boot up and go to an empty pattern and choose the default 808. Can’t figure it. Sounds good when compressed in daw with a short decay though
Hmmm have you messed with snappiness then on the 6S?
@@LiamKillen seems to be normal. Idk what the acb technology is doing exactly but the extended release of white noise sounds weird to me. Or the sample cutoff. Thought I was more familiar with 808 sound but This demo at 2:12 and 2:15 of 808 snare confirmed it’s normal ua-cam.com/video/wk9-zYdA8Nc/v-deo.html
Honest answer please ,, tr6s or tr 6 boutique ( im struggling with my chore monologue ) I need a link
TR-6S all the way. Here's a review: ua-cam.com/video/ibaWpyekpJA/v-deo.html
@@LiamKillen cheers Guf
@@LiamKillen thanks
Does this one have swing feature on it?
indeed it does
how about SR78 beatz? Blondie - Heart of Glass, Phil Collins - in the air tonight , Ultavox - vienna?
Ummm i'm not sure it's got the SR78 - you'd have to sample that separately I believe! :-)
0:52 18 grand for that combo? I think that's a little bit exaggerated. 12-14k is about right. That being said; the 808 and 909 will keep that value and will work for more decades to come. And; they're super fun to use and the inner search is over. That was at least my experience. I pulled the trigger about two years ago, starting with the 909, followed by the 707 plus 727 and now also an 808. Yes, pricey. But it'll "get you there" immediately. I don't regret any of these purchases.
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Don't get me wrong, a lot of these new machines are awesome. Especially this compact TR-6S. But instead of emulating the classics, one should use the machine in new ways I think. In all your examples, I instantly hear/feel that none of the originals were used. Since the 909 (80%) and 808 (100%) produce their sounds in the analogue domain, none of the hits sound similiar and they also interact with each other on multiple levels. The most obvious is maybe the 909 snare, which shares its noise part with the clap - so when they are played together, you hear a pretty intense flanging sound in those noise parts. Or when long-decayed 808 sounds are re-triggered - when the previous hit hasn't decayed to zero. Those hits add up and all sound different.
Whereas when using samples, all hits sound the same. I have an MPC 2000 in my setup, and I use samples of the 909, 808 and 7x7 in parallel to the actual machines. And that really makes sense, because it's a different approach. Also on many levels. I chose to use samples from NOT my machines in order to have them a little bit different from the start. And I can pitch/tune all sounds on the MPC, play all of them at the same time. For instance on the 808, you have to choose between CLaves and RimShot.
In my experience it also has a huge impact HOW you work with a machine. The MPC with its 16 rubber pads makes me come up with very different patterns than using the x0x's step sequencer and so does using TAP-mode on the x0Xs vs. step-mode. Or having two-level steps per instrument PLUS an overall accent lane on the 909 vs. two-level total accent on the 7x7. The accents really make a HUGE difference on the x0Xs imho.
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#funfact I recently recorded the 808 in 192kHz and was surprised that that wasn't even enough in order to capture all the frequencies. That 40 year-old veteran easily produces sound up to and beyond 100.000 Hertz. Roughly 5 times higher than what a CD can capture. Crazy, isn't it?
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#finalthoughts All those machines and plugins are tools in the end. But I figured if I wanted a 909, I had to get that. Same for the 808. A TR-6S or Digitakt or Drumbrute or Alpha Base will get you a TR-6S or Digitakt or Drumbrute or an Alpha Base. Actually easy. When you want a screwdriver, you better not buy a hammer :)
Just my two cents.
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Wow lots of effort in this response!
I’ll be doing a blind fold test with the tr 6s and possibly the 808/909 in the future. We’ll see if people are able to tell the difference raw.
Also 18k- that’s the price of all 4 drum machines in Canadian currency as I mentioned in the description.
@@LiamKillen Oh, sorry. My fault. I thought U$D ;)
Looking forward to hearing the comparison. But as I said, I think workflow is also very important. Using an actual device vs. pushing the mouse cursor around on a screen.
I feel u
how do i install these patterns into the tr-6s
Those patterns are from the TR-6s and you can drop them into your DAW- they aren't meant to de dropped into your TR-6s.
The the grooves d/l you have has wav samples only, no pattern info.
Yeah WAV is better quality- I’ll take a look about pattern info thx
Best 909 Pattern is in Skinny Puppys Smothered Hope😊
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@@LiamKillen imho ;)
Does it have tr 505 sounds?
I don't think it does actually- but you can always upload em in!
hey, ive been torn between this and a op-z for a strong sequencing drum machine for glitchy music, which would u reccomend?
opz is more immediate and better for performance FX
Compare the AcidLabs Miami with the 808. The Miami sounds more like an 808 than the 808 😂
lolol
Guessing those are Canadian dollars or just Roland MSRP? Brand new from just about everywhere for $409.99 which is even more of a steal
oouuuu yeah i should have specified. I’ll make sure to clear that up in the comments tomorrow.
Behringer need to release a 707...
I don't like Behringer.
just made improv of tr6s and tb03 with tr editor on my channel!
Oh nice thanks for letting us know!
Are you in midi mode ?
I actually can’t remember 🤔
beringer does 808s and 909s for just under 300. why no mention liam? is this an advert? dont mean to sound rude. i watch u often great channel my guy!
Too much controversy around Behringer products- that company is sketch and rips everyone off.I don't mention them in any of my videos. And no this is not an advert.
@@LiamKillen thanks this was an eye opener. after u said this i went off to see what you were talking about. ur right they are assholes thanks for having honour ✌
how do you load these?
using an SD card
Yeah, and put these in the export or backup folder? Nothing there when I turn the box on. Am I missing something?
You need to program the SD card to your TR 6S! Google “program ds card tr 6s” you should be able to find something. Can’t remember exactly how to do it
Is analogic?
it is not.
Gracias por compartir, i’m not speak inglés y no tener un manual en castellano es una putada o gran error de Roland,no creo que les cueste tanto subir en su web, pues me está costado mucho más descubrir todo su potencial…
I can’t seem to copy this text. I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you’re saying!
@@LiamKillen basically he says he is fckd because the instructions manual is not in Spanish.
I always just hear a sonic atmosphere off these tr6s/tr8s machines...good or bad it's always there...probably perfect for deep house or something
Really? Like a hiss or something?
@@LiamKillen no, i think its just the overall sound, its not bad, just kind of an clean tone to it..
Yeah it’s hella clean.
Compare it to the Synsonic Drums
Noted! I don’t know anything about those
707 is the king. Underrated
It needs more love.
background music / samples in the beginning are way too loud dude. still, thanks for the video.
my guy
I can’t do the digital just don’t sound the same
You’re the first one to say this! ( one of the first at least)
@@LiamKillen digital not bad maybe Nostalgia or the fact device to device sounds different especially with aged component but I kind of dig that
I see what you mean- the 808 is bouncier + sings more
@@LiamKillen just got the rd6 to show some authentic analog love the 606 don’t get a lot of love 808 909 get the acclaim I personally like 606 and 808
606 and 707 are also both super dope
I see some 606 going cheap sometimes
Better off getting the 6s IMO
@@LiamKillen yes. But since it's digital drum machines, isn't it better to get the mc101 instead, so you get the drum AND the synths?
Of... Musician's... Music?
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sound cloud is music ripped from youtube aka bootleg copys of music
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Can you make enough money off your UA-cam channel and music sales to quit your job?
Good question! And yes- i've been doing it full time for a while now. Mind you i'm also active on several other platforms which is how it's actually sustainable.
A very functional drum machine--BUT--does not sound true to it's predecessors (606, 707, 808. 909) at all. Sounds processed,, squashed and lacking dynamics.
I actually did a blindfold test comparison on TR-6S vs OG TR-808 and most people had no idea which one was which. Many even just liked the 6S better! Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/0KTTpNKyOho/v-deo.htmlsi=iHFz1xR1aYV3FKHl
News Flash: Most people are idiots. That's why only a few people make great music or do great things. @@LiamKillen
There's a REASON why the 808, 909, and 606 cost thousands of dollars: because they are ANALOG and NOT DIGITAL. Each hit is warm and unique as it is generated for real right there by the hardware--kinda like a real drummer in the room. Plus they have individual outs so you can EQ and shape each drum part to your liking. The 707 is digital but it has individual outs as well. Finally, these machines are rare and hard to replace because it costs more to make analog drum machines with individual outs. You pay for what you get.
I don’t buy it. The TR 6s also has individual outs via usb software. The 707 is a fraction of the price of the 808 + 909. I love analog gear and I understand what you’re saying but to pay 8 000$ + for an 808 vs paying 500$ for the 707, there’s a lot of hype involved there- it’s an iconic drum machine that everyone’s used, when it was affordable. I’d love to own one just to have it.
I’m planning on doing a blindfold test maybe with the 808 vs TR 6S and am curious if people will be able to recognize the difference.
The REASON, Brian, is that they haven't been made for 40 years. The analogue hype simply multiplies the price set by their scarcity. As for the "kinda like a real drummer in the room", what are you smoking?
It’s scarcity + iconic ism (lol) . Is the 606/707 just as scarce? not sure.
@@LiamKillen The 707 is digital and plays back samples.
Yeah that’s my bad
Programmed and or drag n drop translates to I don't make my own music but I did a thing and now you can buy my sample pack of all these sounds I "programmed". Im sure you cool af and probably have good taste in music.. but this wanna be musician thing is hackjob artistry at best. And you only relate to 14 year olds with their parents cc. If your sick of peoples critiques then just drum out your percussion on a kit or pads or literally anything that demonstrates musicianship. Mouse clicks don't count. But hey you own a fuck ton of drum machines. Pay your local music store for drum lessons and in like 3 months you probably wouldn't ever have a use to "program" shit again. Unless your a developer.
Wow…you put a lot of effort into this one- I can only imagine what it’s like to carry this sort of energy throughout life. Heavy stuff- but hey I respect the hustle! You respecting yourself though…looks like that’s another story.
Funny you say all that though…I was a hired session drummer for about 15 years, have a bachelors degree in jazz performance on drums and started giving drum lessons when I was 17 😂 😂 😂 and now I’m exploring the electronic realm. No lie.
Creativity can go in any direction my dude. Anyway- take care of yourself.
Ps: as for making my own music I invite you to stream! 😉 www.hyperfollow.com/lkmusic
Cheers,
The overproduction in this video is incredibly annoying.
Sorry you think that. Thanks for watching anyway!
Another toy from the worst company today.
What’s a synth/drum machine that you don’t consider a toy?
@@LiamKillen Roland was the best in the 80´s, the worst nowadays, living out of bad digital copies of themselves.
What’s a synth/drum machine that you actually like though?
@@LiamKillen moderns, only Isla sp 2400, the rest sound as crap, specially Rolands Airas.
, any old akai beats those.
Aight