well the debris just bypassed all and went through the down spout. the other leaves you put on top were filtered but those that are collected as a downstream will just make it to the drain, eventually clogging it
I made another video where I left the filter in the gutter for over a year and it was working very good. I took the video in a rain storm to show it works
I agree, the way he is demonstrating it is not a natural progression of the way it builds up. I used the small wire one the goes into the top , the first one he had and it works just fine. I go up and clean it once a year.
You helped it quite a bit with the way in which you were placing the debris and pouring the water. This is not how rain and water will flow through. Id like to see the debris move by the water rather than you placing it on top otherwise i cant be sure of what you claim these will do.
The point with the debris filter, is so it doesnt get debris in the pipe that goes underground. If you dont have a pipe go under ground, then its no problem. The filter you liked, is better if put directly on top of gutter.
Put 1/4” galvanized steel mesh (hardware cloth) over your gutters one side under your shingles the other side screwed down to the edge of the gutter. 1. Keeps out debris. 2. Doesn’t restrict water flow. 3. Leaves and other debris won’t build up on top of the mesh because it’s angled downward. 4. Very cheap and available at local hardware store. 5. Easy to cut-install using 3’ x 6” sections. 6. Effective-any debris small enough to get through 1/4” mesh won’t clog your downspouts and gets washed away. Even if you still get good water drainage from using the filters in this video your gutters will eventually fail from the weight of the debris building up unless you clean your gutters. No gutter cleaning necessary with the mesh method described above.
Yeah the best is the traps that fit on the bottom of the downspout that you can pull out and clean every couple months if you have under ground drains so they don't block up.
Your recommendation for best “filter”, IS NOT FILTERING!!! The debris will now get stuck in a hard to clean area. My downspouts dump into a corrugated pipe that travels underground. I would much rather clean a screen mesh that gets clogged in the gutter, versus having all the debris getting stuck in my corrugated tubing underground!!
I agree. Much easier to clear one spot at the downspout in the gutter than trying to clear the downspout itself or worse clearing the drain underground. I do understand the concept of straining large debris while letting smaller ones drain through because the size of the drain shouldn't clog with small debris as heavy rain will easily flush them. But the open end of the filter he shows will let large enough debris through in time and once you get a partial clog you're well on your way to getting a full clog. Maybe a modification to the design where at the end where it faces the onrushing water it should be blocked off or have the same mesh as on top. No matter what filter is put in gutters still need to be checked periodically.
I had the similar thought because I have 6 downspouts in all, 3 of which are attached to french drains. I simply need something to stop leaves and other objects from passing through the spout. Annual cleaning will be simpler than hiring a plumber to clear the French drain. In order to flush any debris out of the french drain, I recently bought a Sewer Jetter Kit for Pressure Washer to attach to my pressure washer.
What happens to your roof when there is 6" of snow on top of all that debris? At the end of the year, you would still have to clean the gutters when the leaves are done falling.
I like the effort, but these strainer units prevent the clog from happening inside the vertical gutter. And show you where you have to easily remove the exposed blocking material.
Easier yet. just paying 25 dollars and buying a gutter stick. I just cleared a gutter that had the expanded screen over the top. The small stuff falls through that rot and then slides in mass and plugs up the downspout. The gutter stick is the most straightforward answer to solving the problem.
I would like to see a downspout on your example, the debris flowing out is only going thru a 2 inch long drain. An 8 foot long downspout may accumulate and hold the debris.
even with the gutter "plug" as he calls it full of debris, water was still pouring out of the down spout. I like the concept of the z gutter but he did not prove that the mesh filter in the downspout does not work.
Your system is clogging the down gutter pipe with all that debris…I have an IDEA on how I could improve your system. If you are interested let me know.🙏
Seems like a b.s. demo. OK, so the little blue filters didn't clog up... that's because they let all the stuff run under them and down into the downspout. At that point what is the goal you are trying to achieve here? You would get the same results to take them out.
I went to Home Depot and got a sheet of plexiglass. Then I used a Torch to heat up the plexiglass while lying on top of a gutter. It slowly started to conform to the gutter. took hours and was not easy
What if you literally only have one tree (glossy privet) in the vicinity that’s pollutes the gutter, and nothing else? I was recommended the first strainers by my roof tech. Otherwise agreed, the Z’s are nice! Any feedback you can share would be great thanks!
You won't believe it, but it is not easy. This particular gutter I made from plexiglass I got at Home Depot. I used a roofing Torch to heat it up to make the bends. Since then I made another on slightly better, but I don't have the method down yet. I still have to find the right technique to bend plexi glass
At time stamped 3:16, you used the running water from the hose to forcefully move the debris into the sprout. Sorry to say this, but your Z-Gutter Filter is not better than other BS methods.
Did you collaborate with this company on your 2015 design? I would be interested in investing in this for my gutters but would be interested in seeing long term tests. Right now I see land based vacuuming as the best option with schedule 20 pipe. 2 story max.
you did not perform equal testing, you performed marketing in your products favor. Debris in a flush for the "bad" screens with constant flow. Debris in smaller parts AND using the water stream differently by far for the "better" screen.
Hi folks , What a great idea and yet another tpop video from the flat roof doctor , you should market your gutters they look great always love watching and we learn so much you both had a lot of fun to nice keep it coming
@@dredercollen4919 Unless I overlooked it, I combed through the thread for your explanation, as to WHY it will not work in actuality, but see NONE. Please be fair-minded in providing an explanation that backs up your comment! Otherwise, you're just casting shade, and creating doubt, and for no good reason.
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well the debris just bypassed all and went through the down spout. the other leaves you put on top were filtered but those that are collected as a downstream will just make it to the drain, eventually clogging it
I made another video where I left the filter in the gutter for over a year and it was working very good. I took the video in a rain storm to show it works
I agree, the way he is demonstrating it is not a natural progression of the way it builds up. I used the small wire one the goes into the top , the first one he had and it works just fine. I go up and clean it once a year.
Not true. I clean gutters. This is a great concept. All gutter downspouts need annual check it maintenance.
ikr, he must be selling this😆
In you demo, you stacked the vast majority of debris on top of the filter, not in front of it where it would naturally clog. Why?
It won't sell if you know the problems it has.
You helped it quite a bit with the way in which you were placing the debris and pouring the water. This is not how rain and water will flow through. Id like to see the debris move by the water rather than you placing it on top otherwise i cant be sure of what you claim these will do.
Tanks a Lot .... from Brazil..... You expend time and money to show every body best result
The point with the debris filter, is so it doesnt get debris in the pipe that goes underground. If you dont have a pipe go under ground, then its no problem. The filter you liked, is better if put directly on top of gutter.
Put 1/4” galvanized steel mesh (hardware cloth) over your gutters one side under your shingles the other side screwed down to the edge of the gutter.
1. Keeps out debris.
2. Doesn’t restrict water flow.
3. Leaves and other debris won’t build up on top of the mesh because it’s angled downward.
4. Very cheap and available at local hardware store.
5. Easy to cut-install using 3’ x 6” sections.
6. Effective-any debris small enough to get through 1/4” mesh won’t clog your downspouts and gets washed away.
Even if you still get good water drainage from using the filters in this video your gutters will eventually fail from the weight of the debris building up unless you clean your gutters. No gutter cleaning necessary with the mesh method described above.
So the leafs r just gonna go underneath and block it
We have needles from fir trees. Wouldn't they clog up the drains that are buried underground using a one inch filter?
Yeah the best is the traps that fit on the bottom of the downspout that you can pull out and clean every couple months if you have under ground drains so they don't block up.
Your recommendation for best “filter”, IS NOT FILTERING!!!
The debris will now get stuck in a hard to clean area.
My downspouts dump into a corrugated pipe that travels underground.
I would much rather clean a screen mesh that gets clogged in the gutter, versus having all the debris getting stuck in my corrugated tubing underground!!
I agree. Much easier to clear one spot at the downspout in the gutter than trying to clear the downspout itself or worse clearing the drain underground. I do understand the concept of straining large debris while letting smaller ones drain through because the size of the drain shouldn't clog with small debris as heavy rain will easily flush them. But the open end of the filter he shows will let large enough debris through in time and once you get a partial clog you're well on your way to getting a full clog. Maybe a modification to the design where at the end where it faces the onrushing water it should be blocked off or have the same mesh as on top. No matter what filter is put in gutters still need to be checked periodically.
I had the similar thought because I have 6 downspouts in all, 3 of which are attached to french drains. I simply need something to stop leaves and other objects from passing through the spout. Annual cleaning will be simpler than hiring a plumber to clear the French drain. In order to flush any debris out of the french drain, I recently bought a Sewer Jetter Kit for Pressure Washer to attach to my pressure washer.
That looks like a very good solution to my problem
You bet
What happens to your roof when there is 6" of snow on top of all that debris? At the end of the year, you would still have to clean the gutters when the leaves are done falling.
I like the effort, but these strainer units prevent the clog from happening inside the vertical gutter. And show you where you have to easily remove the exposed blocking material.
Thank's for the heads -up Doc.
Play Safe From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.
Thanks Scott
Easier yet. just paying 25 dollars and buying a gutter stick. I just cleared a gutter that had the expanded screen over the top. The small stuff falls through that rot and then slides in mass and plugs up the downspout. The gutter stick is the most straightforward answer to solving the problem.
I would like to see a downspout on your example, the debris flowing out is only going thru a 2 inch long drain. An 8 foot long downspout may accumulate and hold the debris.
Best gutter cleaning advice video demo I have watched.
It will still need cleaned once a year, the first one still would be fine.
Looks like blue cable tray I can get for a fraction of the price
Interesting. Any details, please?
Wow that amazing video 👍🏼❤️
Sweetheart, it is all due to your support and hard work, love you
But we can still make the pipe shape mesh leaf filter from Home Depot, stretch flat and the sides like the blue one. I worked well for me
the mesh has to small holes and small debris will clog it fast
Where can I buy the Z gutter filters? Do you have a link?
even with the gutter "plug" as he calls it full of debris, water was still pouring out of the down spout. I like the concept of the z gutter but he did not prove that the mesh filter in the downspout does not work.
The square gaps are not as tight or small or say a mesh guard so I was thinking that surely smaller leaves and debris can still make it through?
Very nice demonstration! This product looks like it works very well 👍🏼
It is really a game-changer. Any other leave filter clogs up to fast whereas this leave filter allows for longer periods between maintenance.
Your system is clogging the down gutter pipe with all that debris…I have an IDEA on how I could improve your system. If you are interested let me know.🙏
Amazing!!! thx sire!
Seems like a b.s. demo. OK, so the little blue filters didn't clog up... that's because they let all the stuff run under them and down into the downspout. At that point what is the goal you are trying to achieve here? You would get the same results to take them out.
How did you make the plexiglass gutter? I'd love to have a section like that to easily keep an eye on how the gutters are doing.
I went to Home Depot and got a sheet of plexiglass. Then I used a Torch to heat up the plexiglass while lying on top of a gutter. It slowly started to conform to the gutter. took hours and was not easy
What if you literally only have one tree (glossy privet) in the vicinity that’s pollutes the gutter, and nothing else? I was recommended the first strainers by my roof tech. Otherwise agreed, the Z’s are nice! Any feedback you can share would be great thanks!
I got this, a couple of months ago and I am happy with it ! 4-1-23
Will u show the process of the gutter being engineerd? Thk u
You won't believe it, but it is not easy. This particular gutter I made from plexiglass I got at Home Depot. I used a roofing Torch to heat it up to make the bends. Since then I made another on slightly better, but I don't have the method down yet. I still have to find the right technique to bend plexi glass
you press the debris tight against the strainer.
At time stamped 3:16, you used the running water from the hose to forcefully move the debris into the sprout. Sorry to say this, but your Z-Gutter Filter is not better than other BS methods.
Are you South African that has been living in the states for quite a while?
yep, 37 years
And here I thought you were originally from Germany. Must be an Afrikaner accent, right?
Hmm. The elbow clogging is the culprit.
Did you collaborate with this company on your 2015 design? I would be interested in investing in this for my gutters but would be interested in seeing long term tests. Right now I see land based vacuuming as the best option with schedule 20 pipe. 2 story max.
you did not perform equal testing, you performed marketing in your products favor. Debris in a flush for the "bad" screens with constant flow. Debris in smaller parts AND using the water stream differently by far for the "better" screen.
What about acorns or pinestraw
LOL!!!! are you trying to sell Z-gutter? did not work.
thanks for your amazing solution
Hi folks , What a great idea and yet another tpop video from the flat roof doctor , you should market your gutters they look great always love watching and we learn so much you both had a lot of fun to nice keep it coming
Thanks for your kind words
Andrew, please think through. This filter will NOT work in an actual situation.
@@dredercollen4919 Unless I overlooked it, I combed through the thread for your explanation, as to WHY it will not work in actuality, but see NONE. Please be fair-minded in providing an explanation that backs up your comment! Otherwise, you're just casting shade, and creating doubt, and for no good reason.
Excelente idea
Mucho gracias
Do you have a solution for LOTS of evergreen needles?
eliminate trees 😁
Hmmm where do you buy them at?
Where can 8 buy this bro?
bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro
Over $1.11 AN INCH 😵💫
good job
Thanks
Magnífico
Many Thanks
I don't believe it
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