If Xbox/PC Development Merges, Will Game Quality Suffer?
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I’m willing to bet Microsoft are seeing the Steam Deck as an existential threat to Xbox and Windows. It’s a successful console that also switches to a full Linux desktop.
The strategy they seem to be taking is probably to copy that with an Xbox capable of switching to Windows, allowing other games stores as separate applications. This would potentially stop Valve from making a Steam Deck desktop, which could evolve into a real competitor to Windows
The portability aspect is what’s worrying if it leads to mass adoption not Steam Os per se, cuz devs aren’t really developing for Linux, it’s just a translation layer and and can always introduce breaking API changes to make Steam job a nightmare and discourage gamers from using Steam decks
@@sumomaster5585 however if steam os and by extension, linux can gain mass adoption in gaming, developers will be inclined to shy away from developing for windows exclusively. At the end of the day, hardware will become irrelevant as evidenced by the hardware architecture of Playstation and Xbox. The underlying Platform is all that matters right now and if hardware makers start making steam "consoles" that can seamlessly run PC games on TV, it can threaten the closed and restrictive nature of xbox, playstation. In addition, this seems like big reasons Microsoft and Sony has been buying up large game studios and IP cause their control on gaming hardware will erode away and all they will care about is publishing games that will gain them subscribers to their online service and lock gamers down by either game pass or psn regardless of the hardware and platform gamers are using.
@@Jabid21 I’m no expert but if even normal software is lacking on Linux, that says a lot about it. If windows PCs are open platform then Linux is the PC of OS. Very flexible but a nightmare to build software for.
I am all for choice but realistically Linux won’t ever take off on the desktop unless Google or someone else takes it seriously and kills off all the other destros! At that point it would be just another locked platform though.
I'd already be willing to switch to SteamOS Desktop over Windows when Valve releases it, so... Yeah.
Honestly I think it's alright not even far from that. They have to do it.
Let’s not act like the Steam Deck is some massive success. “Existential threat” yes a niche hardware that wouldn’t even sell 10 million.
Yes, if xbox does anything with anything game quality will suffer
Can the quality even suffer any more on Xbox?
Bruh
I thought that the moment I saw the title!
Xbox is not even in the game and people talk like it has chance to win or turn it around 🤣
I really don't see how it could get worse than it already is.
Neither do I, but at the same time I also 100% believe that they would find a way 😂
They said the same about Twitter. There's no bottom when it comes to out of touch rich people.
Will it become like older mac? Where the hardware was general intel one with upgradeable storage and ram. But the os was locked.
I think if they took the current Xbox Series X, gave it 2 more cores and 4 more gigs of RAM dedicated to the operating system and other programs, launched that as an Xbox compatible PC at $600-700 it might become quite popular.
*compatible
@@alvallac2171 thanks, fixed
The 2026-28 Xbox that supposedly releasing, should and better be new cpu and 24-32GB of ram, 2TB storage, 3080-4070 level gpu minimum... with all the stacked tools announced actually implemented and working not talked about, anything less failed.
3080-4070 doesn't seem sufficient for 6 years of technological advancement considering that current Xbox Series X Is approximately halfway 4060 and 4060Ti.
Both are quite good GPUs despite the hate they are receiving.
If they weren't so overpriced,they wouldn't be so hated.
@@GameslordXY remember series S is newer hardware ps4pro and it runs Gotham knights, Forza, Madden, MK1 Fortnite, Gaurdians of the Galaxy, decently. I run 3080 gaming rig, 4k 60fps just about everything with very optimized settings or I run at 1440p resolution 60fps-120fps.. surely a console with costume hardware with levels of power like a 3080--4070 could become next-gen experience... do I want more of course... but will it be more that is the question?
I can't see more then that as a reality honestly.
Since Xbox is dying, Microsoft really has no choice. The ship is sinking, better pivot soon.
PIVOTTT!!
They have decided to grow significantly outside of Xbox and their focus is no longer just on Xbox. Even the name has changed to Microsoft Gaming. The Xbox name may be gone in the future, but it's not "dying", they just renamed themselves. Even their slogan is "play anywhere": But as an Xbox fan, I don't like the direction they're going and I built a PC. I can feel the corporate vibe and I no longer recognize the brand I used to love.
Since Sony is dying, they have no choice to become full multiplatform and launch all their games on Xbox and PC.
No place to go but up for Xbox game quality.
The next xbox gen as far as I can see, is basically Microsoft (the company that owns windows) launching gaming oriented windows-esque prebuilds, ones with market share sizeable enough for game devs to specifically optimize for them.
The only difference being that the "prebuilds" would release once or twice in a console generation (7-ish years) just like the Playstations and their "Pro" variants' launch cycle.
I would love to see a video on what you guys think is the reason behind games taking so much longer now-a-days. I'm pretty ignorant on the subject, so i always wonder ... is it asset creation? Scripting? Or is everything just now loads more complicated?
I personally think in many cases it is poor management there are so many examples of games with things like 6 7 or longer development time yet the productive time Is less than half that
excess budget and push for realism over creative art styles
@@EastyyBlogspot that too
Mo cap and story. Games being more complex too many bugs and release delay. Also games being multiplatform. Too many technologies coming these days and updates , developers may take too much time to learn new technologies and software solutions. Post covid budgets of games have balooned Mismanagement can also be a major problem.
It's a bit of all of them.
I think the more devices a dev has to target, the more likely the experience will suffer. While Series S is probably not the only reason that many games are not optimized, it certainly didn't help. If you add PCs with myriads of configurations, it complicates matters more. As we've seen companies struggle to deliver stellar PC ports.
Imagine if that was a part of the game's overall design and development. It does beg the question of whether games like Spiderman2 and Uncharted 4 would have been the same games.
For instance, it is clear that devs are putting their resources into getting games to work on Series S as opposed to optimizing Series X to get better performance over the PS5.
There have been plenty of v.good PC only games, the development time on a closed system is going to be easier but it's not a guarantee of quality or performance. I have PC, Series X, and a PS5 and if I had to choose one and give up the other two I would keep my PC and it wouldn't be a hard decision, in fact I'd miss the friends I've made in those ecosystems more than the games if I'm honest.
As for the question in the video I think with the way Xbox has gone it's the only sensible choice going forward, the real issue for a dev team that made a console exclusive that's then offered up to go in to the PC market is performance variance across PC peripherals, they can make it easier by setting the minimum and recommended spec to a tight controllable range but ultimately it will be harder but the rewards are also greater, Sony dropping their exclusives on to PC has seen some good returns financially is likely to continue. The current Helldivers 2 mess is causing some issues but it's in Sony's interest to solve it quickly as the PC made up 60% of the total sales, and I suspect Ghosts of Tsushima will sell extremely well when it releases, I've bought it at launch on PS4 and then picked up the Directors cut when I got my PS5, and I've pre-ordered it for PC to see how it performs on a high end system as well as my Steam Deck.
Xbox blew it tbh and it's a shame because we need a strong Xbox brand to keep Sony honest but I think in the future the Xbox hardware will be a modular PC with a Xbox dashboard.
@@gs8494 I'm the opposite - I prefer consoles. You can have a PC and play it on your home theater but it's a pain and it's never going to be equal same experience as a console for the money.
Instead of the Series S, I would have preferred a Series Z with a 6080-90 with ML SS in it for $800-$900.
If it did AI upscaling for streaming and movies and had sound quality of a Technics SU-R1000, it'd be the perfect console!
@@techsamurai11 I have my PC hooked up to my tv and it's fine, though in fairness getting the whole thing setup with my home theatre system was a bit of a pain but nothing too demanding, that said I'm not going to lie, the sound of the Xbox series Z sounds fucking great tbh, pity it's just your idea for the perfect console and not something I could see them doing but who knows maybe, just maybe. :)
Could you please tell me, one game that's not optimized for Series S and is optimized for other platforms?
@@CrossUnity Well, they have to optimize the Series S as it's slowest console right? If they took the settings from the PS5 and XSX, it would not run properly.
Xbox & PC should be 1 thing. So developers would make 1 version of the game, not a PC or console version.
I find it shocking how MS developed so many solutions for the Xbox Series consoles, like the whole VRS and the direct storage API, and yet, we hear nothing of any developer amusing them. There is no optimization whatsoever. Also, getting a game running its best on Series S would mean even more impressive results on Series X and PS5 (although it doesn't have VRS on hardware level).
You know whats funny. The best direcstorage implementation is in sony pc games. Check the new horizon loading time with direct storage.
I hope Steam Consoles & Xbox/PC Hybrids will fight each other!😊👍🏻
What if Microsoft licensed the OS out with strict specifications? Imagine an ROG or similar xbox.
im never going to pay for a subscription to play games
sometimes i feel like playing games for a good few weeks or so, other times i dont touch my library for over 3-4 months
im sure there are many gamers with tendencies like mine and so that's why gamepass probably isnt growing that much either
plus, where are the hit xbox exclusives to die for that would make you sign up?
they have so many studios but barely any games
MS should have done this 10 years ago. Maybe this means we can bring back physical discs to PC!!!! Just buy a licensed xbox disc drive maybe?
Forget physical media, this battle is over and the winner is digital.
For years and years Steam users have embraced digital, console user should just swallow the pill.
@@marcospaulo5390
We should have the option to get both somehow. Imagine stores or kiosks (like how Redbox was) where people have the licenses or proof of purchase of our digital games & somehow be able to physically put tons of games on 1 cartridge somehow & do it even just once a year.
That's what I want. So buy digital first & then be able to get physical copies somehow but tons of games would be included on 1 cartridge instead of separate discs.
They embrace digital because they have no other choice.
@@GameslordXYno one wants physical discs, we just want the ability to share our games like physical discs can across stores, that would be sick
@@sumomaster5585 plenty of people want physical discs. I want to be able to own the file and not have it tied to a digital store front. A disc allows me to walk into a brick and mortar store and buy it or walk over to a friend's house and pop it in his PC.
One huge issue is the online subscription charge on Xbox, no one will buy a PC console hybrid if you need gamepass core to play with friends online
What quality ?
Microsoft is already a PC company windows is theirs. What is best for them is a push game pass with better games that are quality games with great exclusives not the crap there given us turn the Xbox console into affordable gaming PC and market for PC gaming. that’s the best option now they lost the console war there’s no coming back, this is why I don’t have an Xbox anymore only a PS5 PS portal which portal was a waste my switch OLED and my 4090 high end gaming pc
Consoles as a business is dying. PS might seem good for now but Mobile and PC will cannibalise their sales sooner rather than later
I don’t know how much more it could suffer as it’s already bad
The quality of games is already suffering and has been for years. The great thing with consoles from a development perspective is a single platform so you can optimise the game for the platform. Then MS messed up with the Series S and PC overlap etc, this list goes on and on.
Meanwhile, I went all in on retro gaming. None of these modern system problems.
what game quality ? you mean it could possibly get even worst ??
*What
*quality? You
*mean it
*worse?? (opposite of "better")
worst = opposite of "best"
PC being a 2nd class citizen is sad but true. Consoles and PCs have not been more a like than ever before and compatibility was worse as ever if last year was anything to go by.
I do get MS wanting to merge or synchronize PC and Console because it would be a bigger win for them I just don't know if they can with hardware and storefront complexity on PC.
Why did Microsoft even make consoles in the first place when they own Windows & could just make "simple PCs with controllers" instead?
I guess that would be consoles but what I mean is why not just have pre-built PCs with controller support, simplicity & all stores on it?
Cuz windows isn’t optimal for gaming. Why’s the Switch with its 💩 hardware better than iPhone 15 pro? Cuz it has a very focused OS. Xbox is based on Windows just without all the features unnecessary for gaming
@@sumomaster5585
Yeah the OS is important for controller players for sure. They could easily have a switch or button on the controller to turn it from an Xbox to a PC though. Then people would use k&m for the PC stuff.
I just hope they finally merge Xbox into Microsoft/Windows more. That's what I want, I would buy it now if I could. Or Steam Consoles.
They are sailing two different boats and making half hearted attempts with both of them. They need to go all guns blazing and fully commit to one strategy!!
Either be the Netflix of gaming via Gamepass and cloud gaming while completely ditching the idea of selling any hardware other than controllers and accessories or keep selling the hardware by producing system seller first party titles exclusive to the Xbox console that won't be available even on PC.
I hope the execs merge with the front of a land rover defender doing 60mph
I think the quality of XBOX Series titles get hamstrung by the requirement to make it work on S. Playstation titles only need to support the one next gen platform. When they want to do an XBOX version, they have to support the Series X and the slower Series S. More work means they may be likely to cut some corners.
Xbox is not a console - just pc with frozen spec. If PC could be made more seamless, with performance profiles like silent or OC+UV and game config profiles like stick to 120fps+fg or "prioritize resolution" or "prioritize rt" - the worlds would merge - but there wouldnt be 10gb series s or too small ssd that cannot hold one game. But it requires to be allways online. Or 2 frozen sets of specs - AMD+AMD and Intel+Nvidia of similar power.
*requires always being online
@@alvallac2171 I don't see other option to fight the piracy.
If they make the bloody games lol, for the amount of developers they have and the resources they have the output is not great
Hell at this point can your blame their devs? They had Tango Gameworks shut down for no reason. If I worked there and I heard of that I would move somewhere else as soon as possible.
Exactly Xbox could have avoided all this. games is the key. Sony doesn’t understand this either.
@@julioussherrod57
How does Sony/PlayStation not understand it when their exclusive games are amazing incredible games?
PlayStation & Nintendo exclusive games are far better than anything Xbox & PC has ever made.
@@AlwaysVotingMAGA I get you, but that’s some old shit now. Sony’s getting complacent because they feel like there’s no competition with Xbox. So there putting out more and more money for less than less games. they need to change up their art style and stop putting out these”realistic games”because people are getting tired of those games.
@@julioussherrod57 I wish they would but the thing is there's a reason they stick to the realistic third person thing because it makes them the most money look at their leaked revenue spreadsheet of every exclusive every time they try something new it just doesn't do as good.
But I had a series X and it ran games way worse than my PC I built to replace it. A Ryzen 9 5900x and Rx 6800 with 32 Gb Ram. Which blows it out the water so it was collecting dust the series X so I sold it. How can game quality go down? Else I would have stuck with the series X and having to run at 30 fps to get the so called "next Gen" features.
At least there will be games.
Yes, next question
is that not already happening, on all platforms.
they can do better and i for one expect them to do better, as gamers we are getting the worst deal of all the other consumers, in gameing, they make the rules and we have to comply.
If parity and or serirs S is not enough. It will
Xbox is “quote unquote” fucked
"Xbox is “quote unquote” fucked"
Yeah because becoming PC like which has more users than Xbox and PlayStation combined is a bad thing. Maybe you can get Sony to sell their plastic box to the other 177 countries.
i hope so. what they did was disgusting, you dont punish your devs when they do well like Tango did.
@@stephenmeinhold5452 Tango didn't do well and the CEO quit.
You know things aren’t good when dev like MVG also made a video about this matter.
You see those memes where there's fruit, ones rotten and the others not but they're touching, causing the rotten one to infected and rot the healthy one
Anything xbox touches will suffer lol
Can't get much worse. Can it?
If Xbox will become a PC developers won't have to optimize for Xbox, so there will be "spare resources": do they invest them in PS5 or in PC + Xbox?
Considering that console sales are slowing down quite a bit and PC is as popular as ever AND it would now includes Xbox players without any addional effort then I think that it makes sense to optimize for PC/Xbox.
They'd take two playerbases at once and they'd reach A LOT more people than just PS5.
It could also mean that AMD would be favored for optimizing games, nothing big since it's still a minority and there are still many hardware combo to be aware of, but I'd expect games to run, at equal "brute force", slightly better on AMD since Xbox would use standard PC AMD hardware rather than one of a kind architecture, so devs would optimize for that.
Bespoke incompetence. The microcode corporate mentality seems incompatible with creating an environment to make good videogames.
Just call new Xbox with PC as PC Box ❤. PC Box then will buying Steam. Than all PC games on PC Box ❤❤❤
It’s kind of an absurd take since every game is developed on a PC and ported to consoles via dev kits making Xbox games more like PC should shorten development time and add more control to console gamers and this is based or reliant on the developers doing the console version right too many developers half ass games on console. Btw I have zero faith in developers doing this except 1st party teams.
As a PC owner and predominant PC player, I've seriously appreciated the day-on-date releases for Xbox games on PC.
But if I was being honest, that has had a real, detrimental effect on the sales of the Xbox platform and those games. However, even moreso the effect of Gamepass on game sales has been significant and likely obscene. And it's self-serving. Gamepass lowers the perceived value of games, which results in fewer game sales, which results in fewer people buying Xbox, which results in fewer game sales AND Gamepass subs, which is likely why they're in such dire straights.
The Sony method of waiting a year or more for most games is likely the smartest method in terms of sustainability.
That kills the pc game sales though which is the largest market. Xbox biggest issue was ceding the Pf to Valve
Would be a strange choice if Microsoft make Xbox go the PC route as who would they then be competing with Steam? That isn't a market they'd topple either.
Going forward Mico$oft itself stated that ALL XBox games will be made available on PC. Not some, or most, but ALL. The RTX 5090 is basically an XBOX Ultra Elite FIVE YEARS ahead in the future. Think about it.
Can't they just get pc exe from devs and lock their own settings for xbox and be done.
GPUs are out pacing the console so hard right now, just rather buy an expensive GPU for the gaming prrformsnce. Instead of an expensive console locked at 30fps. Obviously nvidia GPUs are better than Amd. What do consoles come with. No wonder the console is dead. PC gaming has clear advantages over console, no subscription either.
Clearly the best way to go...just to say xbox still have feature that lack on pc because of ( oh we need to make thoses games runs on potatoe gpu with no features)
I think this gen is really a case when competition doesn't benefit consumers. Microsoft bought Zenimax and ABK and despite it is clear those games will arrive at PS5 you still have to wait. Meanwhile on the Sony side they make temporal exclusivity with Final Fantasy making the PC fanbase get spoiled and wait for the game.
What if Xbox/PC merge makes Sony be more aggressive with FF exclusive deals or does the same with other IPs not only making the PC players wait longer but even they never getting said games as it happens on Xbox? And that's just because Microsoft had the brilliant idea of merging both platforms since Xbox is dying because of them.
I think a PC that runs W11 same as a PC for that cheap price would be a fantastic idea not only for gaming but as a PC gamer I fear the competition between PS and Xbox stops benefiting us and we end up getting less games like PS IPs or Final Fantasy games.
Xbox isn't dying, it's becoming a multi-platform publisher, the only reason Microsoft will make another Xbox machine, is to allow current Xbox players to continue to play their catalogue of games, otherwise they wouldn't make anymore.
I think Xbox will be implemented as part of windows OS in the future, which would allow you to download your games to the PC, like Steam, the benefit would be cheaper storage and more of it, also your games would run better and better every time you updated your hardware, allowing Microsoft to stop making xbox consoles completely.
NO bed game quality already sucks!
Game quality is lowering and this is ongoing trend in last decade. Time when „big” developers were making games with passion is gone. Money talks. Xbox is on this road as well. They got good ideas, pro consumer plans but at the end profit dictated what to do next.
If Microsoft sells a box that can run Steam games, that's what it'll be used for. As an Xbox customer you'd have little choice as Microsoft's PC game store offers just a fraction of the selection of their console's version. I don't understand why we're all just accepting a theory that has no logical business model attached to it. Phil Spencer sells you a box at cost and then Valve makes all the profits from game sales? At what point does Microsoft make any profit here?
They can't raise the price of the box. That would leave them open for Valve to swoop in and release a competing box that runs *the exact same executables* for hundreds less because they're making it up in their 30% cut of game sales. How can they compete against a box that runs the exact same game library for way less money? Valve would rocket to #3 in the console race in no time and Xbox would be a lot worse off than they were before.
It feels like everyone's accepting the idea that it would be a win for Microsoft as long as Windows was on there even if they made no money from the venture. Maybe I could be convinced of that but the reasoning behind that conclusion isn't as obvious as everyone seems to be treating it. Even at 20% marketshare they *are* making a profit from the traditional console approach, so why would a potentially larger marketshare be better if it comes at the cost of being extremely difficult to monetize?
What quality ....Xbox has been shipping unfinished incomplete games ...mossing basic features ffs
there will be no reason for xbox to exist if it's just a crappier version of what valve is doing
can't wait for steam home console to be fully supported
Game quality suffers regardless, that because of the Disney effect.
I feel that you're ALL missing a very key point. Microsoft was the first to draw blood on the modding scene. Focusing on PC and then downgrading quality to fit on console is an extremely achievable, and profitable goal. (The Switch is the prime example here, it's hardware is garbage in comparison, but, the install base/ exposure will sell more, AFTER getting the A+ reviews from the heavy hardware gamers) I guarantee you Microsoft is going to first look at how to LOCK DOWN PC versions to cut out modding, ownership, and make sure that they have ABSOLUTE control over what you do with your game. That's why they look at Steam. Steam has crafted a market to sell what's essentially a "rental game for full retail price" model.
If these xbox Groupies upd their standards, xbox could have listened and have been in a better place.
The quote unquote “Xbox ecosystem” is like the bespoke turd streak on the back of the toilet bowl, ultimately just a mess that needs to be cleaned up.
It will water it down to gamepass levels of mediocrity.
It 100% effects xbox quality. Now devs have make games run good on series s/x and the insane variables of pc gaming. Its far easier to develop a game for one spec. Games will cost more and take longer to make
*affects (different meaning)
*It's (contraction of "it is" or "it has")
its = possessive pronoun
All contractions have apostrophes. Possessive pronouns never do.
Will quality suffer?
What quality? Microsoft doesn’t have any.
Wibble
The problem is architectural difference especially with regard to memory management.
The solution is either going to be AI generated, automatically optimized pc-side code or we keep doing this until the general pc hobbyist is ok with going out and essentially buying an SoC... which you can see the beginnings of with Steam deck etc.
The desktop PC as we know it is becoming legacy tech, by literal definition.
The question underlines the main thing to note. Sampler feedback won't manifest for Xbox because Microsoft doesn't care about Xbox console. MS subsidizes Xbox and has kept it alive where it would have died already if it were on its own at the end of Xbox One generation.
That's why they're migrating into cloud and browser based stores now, even counting since the inception of the Xbox app on Windows 10 since this salvaging and frankensteining process had already started since then.
And so Microsoft is maintaining the Xbox brand in name only while expecting progress to sinkhoke into its main business: Windows. And with very aparrent reminders that you can play Xbox games on your Windows computer, like by using a ms store app which is a computer thing, or through a browser which is, yup, a computer thing.
Don't buy Xbox they don't care. Or do they still don't care. They know you'll play on your windows pc. On steam even since all Xbox game studios releases are on steam day and date. They've had their eyes set on this outcome for a while.
Microsoft/Sony can/will trojan horse steam and enforce a console-like locked down experience for pc gamers.
Damn how much PS5 u have
It will ruin the game optimization lmao
Xbox will never allow you to play pc on console without paying for a subscription
lol
but what if the next "console" is not console but a PC with Xbox logo on it. It seems like they want to go with the SteamDeck route and make the platform open to other storefronts.
@@ProtectusCZ They actually think putting the logo Xbox on anything non console will actually do anything for the brand?
@@Youraveragegamer_97 yes
@@jayryco keep saying that in 2035 when xbox turns into a 3rd party publisher with cloud gaming, once they stop making consoles and they will, Xbox will be dead
They already let you do that without a subscription. If you buy a game on the xbox windows store it can be played on console if it was released after microsoft initiated that policy.
I saw someone selling an XBOX Series S for £75 on Facebook Marketplace!!!!!!! 😨😨 I couldn't believe it!! When XBOX/PC merges, XBOX Series S will be dead...
It could also be a scam like most postings on FB marketplace 😏.
All this stuff about Xbox being more like a PC is just stupid. If they do that they’ll further confuse the existing audience and people will either buy a PC or a PlayStation if they want one or the other (console or PC). This is just killing Xbox as a console full stop, very stupid.
It makes sense for Microsoft though. They can't win in Japan, which means they'll never sell enough consoles to really compete with Nintendo and Sony. So, they can lean into the PC side of things (because Windows dominates PC) while going multiplatform. It costs more money for them to make both an Xbox version of a game and a PC version of the same game. Better to make one version of a game, a PC version, and port to PS and Switch. That's less costly for them.
As for hardware, Microsoft sells its own line of PC hardware, like the Surface tablets. And the next gen Xbox is being handled by the Surface team, so it's likely that the next gen Xbox will be a Surface tablet for gaming.
Also, Microsoft put together a team to handle game preservation, which could mean that they're working on official Xbox and Xbox 360 emulators for PC. Xbox One and Series X/S games are already on PC, so those games don't require emulation as Microsoft can simply give owners of Xbox One and Series X/S games access to the PC versions to maintain backward compatibility with Xbox One and Series X/S.
Of course, this would be the smart way to handle the next gen Xbox, the way that makes the most sense, so I fully expect Microsoft to not do what I said here but instead completely bungle the next gen Xbox and just mess things up even more.
@@G360LIVE
Wow that was very well said. I love the last paragraph lol. Xbox keeps failing no matter what & Xcucks keep crying.😂🤣
Phil Spencer is a liar & best thing to ever happen to PlayStation.
The first thing Microsoft need to do is release a next gen console by next year at the minimum. The Series X hasn’t aged well…
No one wants the current Xbox and you think releasing a new console will change that 😂
Microsoft's console journey is over.
drop the xbox for good, stick with the PC and streaming games.
Would this mean that Microsoft would release a "gamer's OS" based on Windows to compete with the likes of Steam OS and Chimera OS, and Xbox "consoles" would merely be PC standards for running it?
If so, I could see that being a good thing.
Elder scrolls is Xbox’s last hope.
4 more years
Where is xbox's first party game quality now, even ? 😂 Gamepass has killed xbox's output and focus.
Well, this was the whole point of UWP and yes it did. It's not too bad now, but it has issues from a Dev POV.
I predicted this a long time ago. That consoles would eventually become a service on PC.
Nintendo will probably never adhere to that, but they also might be the only one capable of still being a console company
Does digital foundry even care about employee's suFFFering or they only care about tech, performance high fidelity graphics and that stuff
They have seen xbox's new console and they are impressed woth what they have seen👏👏👏👏👏💯🙋
Who cares
they already have garbage games . they are at the bottom of the sucking barrel
no. xbox is the best. playstation is poop
Xbox quality nice one 😂
Xbox is a sinking ship.
It's already been suffering, every single Xbox series has gotten worse when the series made the jump to PC (launched on the same day as the console version).
In all honesty I would rather have a game market crash. This year sucks for gaming as the only good game I can think of is Dragons Dogam 2
You can't even correctly spell the only game you can think of in a whole year? Truly we need a game market crash. 😂
That unoptimised mess is not a good game because a good game's minimum requirement is optimisation.
@@x0Fang0x no, a good game’s minimum requirement is FUN.
just remember PC is number 1! Largest player base and more games then every console combined from Nintendo PS AND XBOX
*than (comparative)
@@alvallac2171 😂🤡
PC kids mashing away at their cheetos dusted keyboards lol
PlayStation is still King.
@@maalikserebryakov you do know pc is more a adult thing as console more so is for children that can’t afford the better hardware right? Why do ppl act like stupid fan boys I own a PS5 and there’s no comparison with that to my 4090 gaming pc and also I’m 34 I don’t eat Cheetos and mash a keyboard maybe that’s you mashing a ps controller bud 😂🤡
Sony has already proven that making games for a single platform produces infinitely better quality.
I wish people would consider the PC more in the AAA gaming space - Its the most used platform and the best technically - Its the master race for a reason... I love how dedicated xbox is to PC and thats what the xbox was from the start right..? A PC in a box... So it makes perfect sense to me - Forget Playstation and Nintendo - Lean into the PC hard... Have PC and Xbox exclusives and forget about being a 3rd party for the other consoles...
as always , consoles holding back game development
You sure its not people demanding the newest game support GTX 1060 GPUs?
@@gothpunkboy89 haha crazy bastards
You'd have a point if the most used gpu in the steam survey wasn't the 3060 which current gen consoles beat just about everywhere, not to mention the mountains of steam users below that performance level
Console ports already run poorly on pc. If they focus on pc and make more demanding games than on consoles, most PCs won’t be able to run them at all. Or maybe they will run better since they are made for pc first. But indie devs do that and they still run poorly.
@@silureswarrior6045 yeah and how many of those steam users play the latest AAA games? most steam users only play things like CS2, dota, etc.
Xbox already merge with Playstation 5...the Quality drop like trash , DF yall now have to live with Guilt, an I laugh at yall on my TV
Xbox is already a wannabe budget PC...... consoles are dying, and only Nintendo will remain.