Lol. I think that was “scripted”/staged for drama. Jill said in another interview that she wouldn’t dream of actually having her daughter do that role in a million years
"My little Kendall would be perfect" cringey-est Jill move. The fact that Abby even entertained that anyone but Nia could have played Rosa Parks was disgusting. I mean Holly and the rest of the moms clearly knew it was just Abby and the producers trying to create drama but that shouldn't have been the way they did it
As bold and brave as they are, you have to stop and think about why they didn't hop on this foolishness. Also why didn't Kristi and Asia do it if Abby is so racist? Because everything is blown out of proportion and dont really make sense that why.
Real American Negro Asia is mixed so she has more white plus she had more advanced training since she didn’t grow up in the “hood” Abby knew she couldn’t say anything bad about her
Alaina in that example she was standing up for slavery but not black culture. She distances herself and Nia from black culture until “black girl magic” came out and then they tried to act different and make posts saying “black girl magic”
@@hails-b1s actually shes white. I can't find her dad's ethnicity but Kira is Basque American which is a small section of the spanish and french border and every website I can find says that Kalani is caucasian.
I don’t know why Lifetime is acting like they JUST found out Abby is problematic. From the dances to the comment about Nia’s hair they new that she was being treated differently because of her race. Lifetime should be held as accountable as Abby.
EXACTLY... After everything she’s done to Nia and all the other girls, they still reward her with spin-off shows and other things. It’s about time the cancelled her.
Right season one and two she had either a jungle theme or was portraying transgender women /drag queen she only got one lyrical pretty dance. Abby also called her a “Black diva” and her excuse for the foolish jungle themed dances was to get ready for her to go to auditions that wanted an ethnic girl but what auditions did she send Nia to?
They did it to save face. They knew about all the things she had been saying but now that people are realizing how toxic the environment was on that show, they needed to do something quick.
can i just say that i HATED that whenever a black girl was on the team, she was portrayed as a weaker dancer? -abby was always criticizing nia and camryn -nicaya got horrible choreography that didn't showcase her true abilities -kammy only stayed for one week -paris was always ignored, never in the front of the group numbers, never got a duet/trio, and when lifetime gives her ONE solo, they don't air it, post it, or include it in "unseen dances, untold stories"
Ikr, even though Paris was only there for a few weeks, I bet Berkleigh (have no idea how to spell her name) solo would’ve aired Also in the special episode where they all got together and talked Paris was only there for half the time..
narniaaa because she definitely lost passion. I saw a video of the girls doing tricks and she slayed. I feel If abby would’ve played with her abilities she would be amazing.
I noticed it at a young age but bc I was very young I didn’t realise why until now. It’s so terrible to see a certain race being portrayed as weak, especially a show that kids watch bc they can take from this and believe it
@narniaaa Nia has said that they did things like deliberately choreograph her turns on her weaker side so that she looked worse and different things like that. It was common for any of the girls that Abby consistently said were poor dancers. If they were really such bad dancers then they wouldn't have been able to keep up in the group numbers.
Racism is a huge problem in the Dance Moms community. Not always in the fandom (which is mainly supportive) but on the show. Abby is truly racist. I feel the worst for Nicaya/Kaya, they were so misunderstood. It's really sad how the show makes innocent people seem bad, and the evil seem good... (Abby). Edit: 1K LIKES WHATTT
I agree with you, groups like Drum Corps International and Bands of America are no different than Abby Lee in that they use colored minority and disabled bands and corps to distract people from their problems with abuse, hazing, discrimination, assault of young women, and harassment for the men who stand up. www.reddit.com/r/FlyingCircusOrchestra/
I always knew that Abby had a racist problem but I never realized the other cast mates were that way. I completely understand lifetime decision. If someone is going to be only racist and keep saying things that are offensive then they need to stay far away from each other. What sickens me is that people still have these narrow minded ideas about race. I also don’t appreciate Abby making fun of Nia and Camryn whether it was their feet,hair ect. These are little girls and your saying things that are extremely hurtful. I was really wanting to hear an interview from Holly and Nia. Both of the had some of the most intelligent conversations and had some greatest moments on the series. But yeah I don’t like how the producers treated the cast members who were of color. Yeah I feel bad for Kaya and Nicaya and how they were treated. Stereotyping people is not okay at all I think one of the worst things is when Abby said Kalani did the Traditional African Dance better than Nia which is awful. Anyways good job on this episode and keep up the good work
I don’t think it was bad that Abby said kalani did the dance better than Nia, I think it was bad that she said ‘Kalani looked more African in the dance than Nia’, which is awful
IDK IDC That wasn’t what was bad. If Kalani has better technique and power then that’s the truth BUT Abby went on to say that she expected it the other way around just because Nia was black like she should have some African heritage spirit in her body or whatever and that’s just racist. Holly, rightfully, called her out by saying they are AMERICAN not from the continent of Africa.
I can vouch for Camryn and Nicaya. Camryn danced at my studio in St.Louis when I was in the senior division and her and Camille are both great people. Camryn and Nicaya are wayyy more talented than the show portrayed. Camryn and Nicaya both went to phenomenal dance studios and high schools in the St.Louis area. I hope they get the recognition they deserve.
@@izzyc127 thank you! I believe Nicaya is studying at the Boston Conservatory and Camryn is in LA dancing. Yes Camille was always so nice! I didn’t really get to talk to them that much though because I was in the senior division and Cam was in junior/mini at the time. 2012/2013 was my senior year. I wish them all the success in the world 💕
I believe Christie has also attended a couple protests. She and Melissa have been the most outspoken non-black DM cast members in support of BLM. Likewise, Maddie, kenzie, and Chloe have also used their platform to really spread the message and educate and have (I believe all) attended protests. Brooke is probably the next most supportive. Kendall, Jill, and Paige all just did a couple generic posts (Jill and Kendall both posted 2 identical posts). Kalani has been the least involved (just a black square. That is it), Brynn has been a bit questionable and scarce, but still has made posts. Jojo hasn’t said much of anything, but I think that has more to do with the fact that her socials are curated for small children. I didn’t look into the season 8 cast much since they are still kids, but I did see that Hannah posted a blackout Tuesday square with a longer caption in support and she has linked a few things.
The only reason jojo hasn’t addressed the situation where living in is because of her child audience the rest of the girls have tweens and teens as an audience plus jojo is the most famous one of them all some people would attack her if she said her own opinion just some celebrity’s need to be quite to maintain their fame ofc it would be great if jojo makes her child audience aware of the situation and I completely understand why she hasn’t spoken out about.
I wouldn’t expect anything from Ashlee & Brynn. Their privilege is just so far gone that I think they’re blinded by it. Jill & Kelly are both Trump supporters so it’s no surprise that Kendall, Brooke, & Paige wouldn’t be as outspoken. I expected more from Kira & Kalani, and I’m kind of disappointed that they haven’t been more outspoken. JoJo has said a few things, but considering her platform is very young children, I know a lot of parents would probably be upset solely for the fact she’s opening kids up to all that (however she did say something similar to what Nickelodeon said, a very kid friendly version). I personally haven’t really seen anything from Maesi or any of the S8 dancer, but they are all younger and a lot of them (especially the S8 dancers) seem to not really have much control over their own social media accounts.
kaya is also a lesbian, so i cant imagine the amount of off handed comments she must have gotten for that too. i remember when she told the moms she had a wife they were all like 👁👄👁
Yeah Nicaya said on her Instagram that the mums said a lot of shit about that to her like calling her the d word and insulting her for being a single mum
I’m appalled at lifetime!!!! They only dropped Abby after her contract is done and she is no longer earning them money 💰 they sat back and not only witnessed this behaviour but have it on film and still didn’t see anything wrong with it!
They definitely share the blame! I’m surprised that most of the media articles are calling Abby out, but not mentioning the way that Lifetime was fully aware of all the things she was saying and gave her a platform for 9 years.
Ik!! They only cared once BLM became a huge movement, they clearly wanted to protect their own image, not the people on their shows who have faced injustice. Its disgusting.
EXACTLY! Very hypocritical and fake. They are only "supportive" because it's trendy now, not because they actually care. They were well aware of the racism always period.
Thank you for pointing out this shameless PR move. If Lifetime genuinely cared about how PoC were treated on Dance Moms, they had plenty of time to change how they depicted the moms and dancers of color on the show, fire Abby before she could insult and unfairly treat more beautiful dancers, do SOMETHING. They chose not to because they were still making money.
As a black viewer of dance moms, I’ve always noticed the racism from the moms and the coaches 🤷🏾♀️ and the sad thing about it I would just ride it off because I love the girls so much
honestly, being a black girl in the competition world, going to a studio with mostly little rich white girls who go to their perfect little christian schools. i’ve always felt like i was treated like i was weaker even when i go to competitions, or have dealt with other teachers outside of my studio that praised me. for a long time i found the faculty and students would make backhanded comments to me, always trying to touch my hair , would get spray tans for competition and say “hey i look like kiya” or would type cast me so i could fit these “black girl roles” when i went to advanced ballet class, they were literally shocked that i could dance??? people always look at the black girls and automatically assume that we are less or we can’t dance. this needs to change. and let’s not even talk about how literally no studios in my town have spoken up about black lives matter. but y’all don’t see color... ok
That's awful, I'm so sorry you had to go through that :( I'm sure your dancing is beautiful, I'm glad that you didn't let situations like that get you down! ❤️
Im so sorry that you experienced that.🥺Im a competitive dancer as well, however I’ve only ever been on predominantly black teams. We often get comments as a whole team like. “Oh but you dont do ballet do you?” Or “you guys must do a lot of hip hop” and then we see shocked faces when we beat them. As if there was no way those little black girls could win. Your right, there is a lot of assumptions and stereotypes towards black dancers. But our instructors always tell us to kill them with our dancing, to show them that little black girls can have good technique. Keep pushing. If your experiencing prejudice from your team, maybe its time to switch. The competition world is hard. Especially for black dancers. But don’t ever stop because of others ignorance. Show them what you can do!❤️😚
It’s so sad that this is such a common experience for black kids in almost any extra curricular program they enter I had similar experiences when I did Cheer and Color guard I literally was bullied by my coaches in-front of the entire team, I literally had my captains and coaches refuse to speak to me for most of the season except to accuse me of stealing equipment or saying that it wasn’t fair that my hair didn’t match everyone else’s. It’s so sad that we have to go through these things just to do what we love and enjoy. I am sorry you had to go through that and to every other black kid who has had similar experiences I am sorry as well and just know we see you and we love you!
Kaya is amazing. She raised four children by herself, worked two jobs, graduated college, made dean’s list, lived in a safe neighborhood, enrolled her children in great schools, got a job as a social worker, and still had time to support Nikaya’s dance training. I was amazed when I watched that part of the video for the first time. She’s such an accomplished, spectacular woman. The show portrayed her so poorly, which really isn’t fair. She worked so hard and was so smart. She deserves more recognition. I liked her character in the first episode she was in. She seemed courageous, intelligent, and truly cared about her daughter. The show slowly made her seem like more of a stereotypical angry black woman. But she deserves to be treated like the smart, accomplished, hardworking, protective person that she is.
Well, she screamed like a maniac and cursed like a sailor, in front of all these kids, what did she expect her portrayal would look like?! Holly on the other hand used logic and not curse words even when the emotions were high, so there is that. You can be educated and not have class, Holly has class Kaya does not.
I feel so bad for Kaya and Nicaya. They were made to look like horrible people, yet Kaya was just defending her child after Abby and Cathy tried to tear them down. It only showed her reaction and not what people said to them. They seem like such a kind and happy family. I’m also glad Christi is willing to change and own up to her mistakes. She seems like the mom that’s most open to change and learning.
I agree they were probably made to look like bad people but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Kaya DID speak poorly about another child on social media and Nicaya acted like a sore loser after the competition when Kendall beat her. “You only won because you’re famous” isn’t professional or mature in the slightest and even if that was the case, it was inappropriate to say in a mature setting and for her age it looks bratty. She couldn’t take her loss with grace. And Kaya, despite being a passionate, courageous, hardworking woman she DID act out of line on multiple occasions which I can’t defend. And that goes for moms like Kelly, Christi, Leslie, Kristie, etc. They may have been portrayed badly in some settings, but they weren’t 100% innocent victims.
Camryn Bridges made her video calling out Abby's racism 9 months ago (yes I checked) and Abby and Lifetime had nothing to say about it then. I'm glad they're shutting it down now but I'm not impressed with their delayed reaction. I'm just waiting patiently for Holly and Nia to say what they think, though if Lifetime still owns Nia's music and is still involved in her career, it probably won't be much.
@@leena75 I remember reading about her calling Nia a tootie referring to a token black girl and then the production team buying them all ipads. It's sad.
@@prajaktapendse7310 Kira is mixed race but because Khalani has a more fair skin tone Abby treated her as if she was solely white. It was something I noticed when they did the dance based on The Help. Also pointing that fact out does not make you racist so you are literally fine lol.
Melissa is so amazing about this. Her and her daughters are speaking up and Kenzie donated her birthday money to BLM! This made me like their family so much more . I honestly saw Jill as a trump supporter but not Kelly. I’m so sad I really didn’t see that coming bc I loved Kelly.
Zendaya’s Louboutins εïз white girls and (in this case) white men. Tony (who used to host afterbuzz and was the MC for dance moms competitions) let this woman slide for YEARS.
While I firmly believe people can change, they have to want to change. If Christie wants to acknowledged she screwed up then I do want to give her time to see the change. I think volumes will be spoken when the hashtags stop and we start seeing who is doing this for the right reasons and who is posting as a publicity thing. As a fandom, we need to listen and we need to educate ourselves. POC have tried to help educate us and we haven't listened. It is not their job to teach us. We also need to expand our circles. Look for more POC owned businesses. Strike up converdation with some different from yourself. Boycott businesses cough Home Depot cough who would rather support racism than POC. More importantly we need to hold people accountable including our loved ones. We should support our parents and our friends that are trying to do the right thing. We will end up making mistakes and saying the wrong things. Instead of attacking, we need to explain. If they continue to not listen, that is a different. I give my dad credit for the progress hes making because I know that the level he is starting at is different than my own. Not that I want credit for the right thing. I am merely saying that we should be encouraging those who are unlearning brainwashing and rewiring their morals and beliefs. As a dance community. We can continue to call out Bloch and Capezio to continue to widen their product lines for POC. Capezio and Bloch are listening, but we need to make sure they do not forget. In your own communities look into creating programs to help those afford dance classes that might not otherwise have the opportunity. We all have different "jobs" to do in this movement. Find yours and keep moving forward. This is more than a hash tag, we are fighting for people's lives.
Okay Ashley if you wanna feel like you are in blame then good for you but stop your laugh worthy propaganda, no to racism but no to feeling like we did anything wrong, live your life with human decency and all will be fine, you are brainwashed,not other people, guarantee you that ,, POCS " treat other people like shit as well so stop with that bs
@@sulemysofia I don't agree with that because I could tell how sincere she was. Christi has apologised again and again for things she said on the show unlike other moms. I truly believe she is sorry and is not just doing it for her child's' benefit. The world was different back then even though it was just a couple of years ago.
@@sulemysofia Nobody said it was ever okay to make racist remarks. But if you're going to demonize people who are actively trying to educate themselves and change, you're only going to hurt the cause.
@@marissaurias5116 Yes it was okay back then, However, we know that now it's not okay because we live in a society that understands how wrong it is. If you look back not only racism was tolerated but encouraged. Donald Trump was born in the 40's he grew up in a world where Racism was tolerated. That's why he is racist. We need to learn about the past so that we understand and make better changes for the future. To simply ignore it is saying it never happened.
Not liking how someone dances is nothing to do with racism. Just like my physics teacher giving me a bad mark is because I can't do physics, not because of sexism. Bad feet are bad feet. She was OK. A lot her popularity was how cutely naughty she was. Note now she's grown she's not as popular anymore. She needed a lot of work technically and also learning to dance with other people and be versatile in more than one style. People also disliked her attitude because she was really rude on her TV show.
Or when they could excuse Maddie being a “brat” when she was 8 because she was a kid but couldn’t get passes Asia being one when she was 6-8 and being bullied by everyone around her. Or how when the other girls did sassy moves it was seen as cute or them just being kids but when Asia had them placed in her dances she was aged up and called a stripper among other horrible names. Or how they thought Asia was bullying Kenzie by improving after Abby told them too. Like the way the fandom overall treated Asia is honestly so disgusting
MsJubjubbird this is a lot of dance moms fan problem.. y’all don’t what dancing is. if u take away all the girls “technique” and tricks, can they actually DANCE?? asia had the rhythm and musicality that a lot of the other girls needed.
Kenny B I am so shocked and disgusted that someone would make a girl do a solo based on the death of a celebrity. What’s next? a solo in a bed with a pill bottle portraying the death of Marilyn Monroe?
Thank you so much for addressing this. This is really something that the dance moms community needed to hear. Racism is horrible! What's worse is that we don't know everything that goes on behind the camera, which means that the girls could have subjected to even more racism and disrespect :(
I used to love Cathy after ur videos saying she wasn’t as bad as we think. I’m quite upset she was racist. I do know Abby was racist but Cathy I gave you a lot of respect but right there you cross the line -Dr Holly And I was shocked at Christi but I’m so happy she has apologized and she has owned her action in quite happy. And I’m happy ur using ur platform for good too keep it up xxxx Edit: I realized it’s not my place to forgive these people who have been racist so I apologize :) x
Me too! Christi's response seems very sincere. Also I remember in one of the DMUncovered episode, it reveals that Christi regretted many things she has done or said in the show, and she wanted to improve herself.
I know Christi regrets many things she said and did on the show, and she doesn’t shy away from taking accountability for her actions and you can tell she is always trying to better herself. As for the other moms (Kelly, Jill, Kira, Melissa, & Ashlee), I think they’re all very pretentious and don’t see an issue with anything they did on the show. I know Jessalynn has also said that she didn’t really like the atmosphere on the show and that some of her actions were made to make her look bad when in reality, the things she did were reactions to the other mothers being unapologetically vile. That’s why in this household, we stan Holly, Christi, Camille, & Jess only 😌
It makes no sense how asia was only in the show for less than a season, suddenly left without notice and got her own spinoff years later. What happened to her dance moms contract? Kristy probably did something iffy hence why she doesnt talk to abby anymore
I don’t blame cast members who were on the show briefly and want to leave it behind. It’s tough for reality show people to get taken seriously in Hollywood.
Seriously, I hate how some people, like Kaya said when she was talking about Cathy, are like “I’m not racist, my sister/brother/niece/nephew etc is black!” And how some people are supporting BLM when they have been openly racist before and support people like Trump, who has also openly been racist. I’m happy Lifetime basically fired Abby, I don’t get how some people still support Abby after all she’s done. Love your vids! I’ve watched all of them on a loop like a crazy person lmao Your voice at the end sounded like you were going to cry, and I was too! 😢 #BLM
wow i thought abby's contract ended after season 7 so she chose not to do season 8. 9what she said in one of her vids on her yt channel) did she get fired? dangg
Thank you for speaking out on this situation!! And I commend and thank the moms and daughters for speaking out on this... I know it takes a lot of guts and mental preparation. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎
Jada/Jade Edwards I think so, Abby (and the producers) tormented, manipulated, and bullied every single one of the girls. A handful of the girls and moms had to go therapy. And lot of the girls have insecurities and mental battles with their confidence due to Abby. The show was nice for the dancing not seeing people get hurt and afraid to go to dance class.
MackZBoss thank for this!!! It made me so happy. You’re a heavy influencer in the dance mom fandom, people talk about YOUR VIDEOS ALL THE TIME and recommend them to others, me included. I don’t know if you have realized it yet, BUT YOU JUST MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE in the fandom and in the world, with this video (and all your other videos). People like you, are the change I want to see in the world. 🌈❤️
I believe that Christie is really trying to learn, even if she had said some racist things in the past. When you grow up in an environment where there is subtle racism, you’re bound to fall into that pattern until you get educated. Also I believe Brooke is genuinely supporting the movement because even though Kelly raised her, parents and children are capable of having different views. I know from experience. My dad and I definitely have different views but he is still my dad so I’m not going to “cancel” him out of my life but I will see him a little differently. Jill being racist kinda surprises me because I thought all of that crazy shit she did was for the show but nope... Kelly wasn’t a surprise. I knew she was a Trump supporter and Paige was also a Trump supporter and I feel like she hasn’t changed her views. Just because she has a black boyfriend does not mean that she’s not racist. I never liked Ashlee and Brynn. Seeing how Brynn has been racist in the past, I can see how Ashlee can be the one who’s teaching her those same views. Kira and Kahlani, I am shocked. I didn’t think they were that way but yea that’s a big yikes. I’m glad that the Lukasiaks and the Zieglers are outspoken. I also was kinda sad that Cathy is a blatant racist because I liked her on the show and I thought some of the racist things were staged by the producers. But no, she’s actually like that. Abby doesn’t surprise me. We all knew and good that she finally got fired but Lifetime is only doing this because other companies are getting backlash for not supporting BLM. So I don’t think it was genuine because if it was, they would have done it a long time ago. I’m glad you used this episode to speak out about the movement.
I definitely agree. Ik all those moms stereotypes Kaya as the angry black women. And for holly to not stand up for her appalled me bc she should’ve known what it’s like to be stereotyped. I lowkey felt like Kira and kalani were lowkey racist cuz yk theyre just the type to not be outspoken about it. Ashlee and Brynn are the same they keep theres lowkey. I do feel like Christi and Melissa have changed, and I don’t rly think Melissa was trying to be racist I think she was just trying to fit in with the moms, and it lowkey killed her how the moms treated kaya. I do think Christi has definitely changed. As for the hylands, as Leslie said on the show Kelly grew up very privileged and rich and that’s how she raised her kids so they don’t shprosie me much.
Poo Teee The show made her seem as the angry black mom and I feel so bad that I also fell into that stereotype. People have been saying that Holly is not integrated into black culture because she didn’t stand up for the Black Lives Matter movement and she seems to be mostly with white friends. I just think that they grew up differently and they were very privileged to not face as much discrimination or got used to it because of Lifetime giving Nia a career. I don’t think we should judge Holly and Nia too much because they did stand up for the movement although hopefully they will say more about Abby when they feel ready. I never felt that Kira and Kalani were racist but Ashlee and Brynn, I did because of the things she said on the internet and the friends she had. Christi was probably like Kelly at first but she learned and that’s why I admire her. People can still change. I don’t know about Melissa doing it to fit in with the moms. She was probably like that because of the producer bias. And I didn’t know that Kelly grew up privileged but it doesn’t surprise me. I believe that people are very sheltered and don’t have a lot of outside experience with the world can become racist and that’s why it’s important to learn about other people’s experiences.
Lillian Duo no but yk sometimes she said things just to fit in with the moms. Like she said one thing to their face and said sum else to someone else’s face. I don’t think she was rly racist I just think she didn’t want to be on the outs
Ilsen Leon yeah I think that Holly definitely gave Nia a more privileged life, holly always talked about how she was from the Bronx and had a hard growing up life . So I would think holly would understand Kayas situation more. Melissa I think she felt bad how the moms treated Kaya but she didn’t want to be on the outs with the moms so she didn’t say anything. I definitely think that Christi has changed… I can’t say if Kelly has changed I just think she’s more quiet about it
I've grown up in the dance world and there was always a racist undertone. From my hair being an issue, to believing that I wouldn't get lead roles simply because of my skin. Dance Moms was a terrible show for everyone involved but ESPECIALLY for all of the incredibly talented African Americans on the show. Nia, Nicaya, Kamryn, and Camryn were all so incredibly underrated and shown to be talent less when in reality, they were all talented and improved a ton over the years. It boggled my mind that anyone would've wanted this rancid show to continue. I'm so glad it's over and Abby is being held accountable for all the crap she's done to these dancers. No 7 year old deserves to hear that they are there to be a sprinkle of color and that's it. Holly needs to speak out, she will earn so much more of my respect if she does. I guess we shall see.
thank you so much for making this video!! abby’s apology was the epitome of a PR move. nothing about it was genuine at all. lifetime needs to apologize as well because they aided and covered up so much racism. as a black person myself, the way black people were portrayed on dance moms always irritated my soul, especially with the juxtaposition of holly being the “smart black woman” and kaya being “ghetto”. i have no respect for abby, the producers, kelly, jill, and anyone else involved in dance moms who was a racist. i’m so glad this movement is happening and that we are calling people out! i support all of the beautiful black moms/daughters of dance moms ❤️
that's so upsetting that nicaya had to create a majority of HER OWN solo that was meant to be choreographed by cathy, it's disgusting how after she danced, kaya thanked cathy for making it now that we know that she barely even made it. poor kaya and nicaya. :(
I’m so glad the show is ending. It’s been going on for too long, and it’s been tricking young kids into thinking this behavior is alright. I’m so glad you made this video
I think holly and nia have a contract with the lifetime producers so I think they can’t say anything negative about the show, but I’m not sure. But also again they have been with Abby for a long time so I guess they don’t want drama but I think they should speak out cause she was really popular on the show.
People need to understand that people handle racism in different ways and who knows it might be mentally draining for them to speak about their experiences,. Or sometimes when you’re a black persons in a predominantly white space you try to fit the “model minority” and let things slide for the sake of keeping the peace and not drawing attention to yourself it’s sad but it happens a lot
I think it was in the practice room where they wait during a competition. The room that is designated for a particular dance company where they get ready, do their makeup, and practice their routines in. It wasn't in front of a bunch of fans but viewers worldwide, unfortunately, saw it.
Lifetime always knew about Abby's racism, she was just making them too much money for them to care. They employed token black cast members knowing full well what their experience with her would be like. Not to mention Paige and Kelly's lawsuit highlighting some other racist comments by Abby.
What do you mean nia is helping out too a lot of dancers are it's not only them I know you are not saying it's only them but a lot of people are helping and chloe is also helping
Early! Btw I think you should do a video about Abby's senior team, because we never saw much of them. On Abby's insta she apologized for being racist to kamryn and others, but didn't mention Nia. I don't know if you mentioned this because I haven't watched the vid.
When talking about dance moms they get so much hate. Their words get twisted and it’s terrible. That’s what happened to nicaya on her live. People were twisting her words when all she said was Maddie didn’t talk to her. Nia and holly I bet want to move on and not be associated with dance moms.
Saniyah Phillips but Kelly has claimed that Abby has said racist things in the past. She was the one who brought forward the “little tooties” incident.
I always look forward to these videos! I’m a dance moms dedicated UA-cam channel and I love to hear all of the things that go on behind the scenes! Thank you so much for speaking out about this situation as well, this is a true turning point in society and I respect you so much for addressing this!💕
She literally said to nia "fix this hair cause it's horrible" and nia said that nias braids looked liked worms and that really hurt nia because she really liked them.
love this series watched every one like 6 times aha, your content is amazing and are always interesting, ive been subbed for a while and yeah, hope you see my comment
I’m rewatching the series (again) and because of your series I’ve noticed little things that I’ve never seen before, I watched the episode with Black Patsy having the verbal altercation with Jill (the episode where Broadway baby dies) and I never noticed that when Melisa is crying during Maddy’s solo Black Patsy hands her a tissue and it looks like she tries to console her. Not something a “villain” would do. Just something I noticed.
I just recently binged dance moms again and in one episode Holly and Camille were trying to explain how segregation still exists and that they would not be able to buy homes in certain neighborhoods. Instead of listening to what they had to say and trying to learn the moms, mostly Jill did not believe anything they were saying. Jill just said I don't think that's true when both Holly and Camille were expressing their frustrations. I can totally see Jill being racist and a trump supporter, I think our first clue was her not realizing the issue with trying to make Kendall Rosa Parks... yikes
This situation as a whole truly breaks my heart. As a white woman, I admit that never once in my whole life have I had to fear for myself just because of my race. Others do not have that luxury otherwise these atrocities wouldn’t happen. That being said, even though Lifetime dropped Abby I personally think that it shouldn’t have taken 8 seasons and public outcry in order to make this decision. My friend is currently studying child and adolescent development, and she has always said that Abby and possibly a few of the moms have blatantly abused the girls on national TV and no one has ever done anything about it. The producers are a huge part of the problem because they knew that Abby said some abusive and racist things, otherwise they wouldn’t be obliged to keep it hidden. In fact, it’s even worse when you realize that they kept some of it in the show in order to have drama and make money. These beautiful dancers deserved so much better and my heart goes out to them. I’m glad to hear that some of them are using their platforms for BLM ❤️
Thank you for this series and thank you for this episode. We all love this show, but it was racist and we as a fandom need to be held accountable for allowing it for so long. I would also love an apology from the producers. The producers chose culturally appropriating dances. The producers type-casted their students of color. The producers hid information to make cast members seem less racist.
Thank you for making this. I honestly wasn't even aware of half the things abby has done and this video really opened my eyes. I am disgusted by some her actions and the fact that she keeps trying to deny them or justify them is awful. It really says alot about her as a person.
as a black young girl I find it so amazing to listen to these girls speak. I believe that there is a revolution, and it's gonna happen. 🥺❤ Edit:Also, I have been in competitive dancing for nine years.
And let’s not forget when the Seventeen Magazine people came to find two other girls to be with Maddie and they wanted Nia and Abby said something about how Kalani would be better to have in the magazine. Abby has tried to take away opportunities for Nia constantly on the show.
Have you done or could you do a deep dive into the racist dances? I personally found the “Haka” dance in season 8 deeply offensive. As a fellow Aussie, I’ve been exposed to haka quite a bit (I’m sure you have too), and I found it really upsetting that they essentially used the name for clickbait and didn’t even attempt to incorporate elements of this powerful tradition into the dance. At least with the Bollywood and African dances they did, they were true to the actual dance style, even if it’s still otherwise inappropriate. I can’t imagine how upsetting it might have been for a Māori person to have seen that dance.
Yup I’m from New Zealand and I was so excited when I heard they were doing a haka dance but I was honestly so mad when I watched the episode, there was literally nothing about the dance that was remotely related to Maori culture, the music, make up, choreography, costumes - they didn’t even get the right colour - None of it was even close. I don’t understand what the point of it was, like all they had to do was quickly google search haka and they could’ve got at least a general idea. It was the most bizarre thing I’ve ever watched
Esha Shekar yeah that’s totally understandable, I’m glad they at least consulted with someone who specialises in the style, but clearly it didn’t make a difference.
@Loretta & @Anna McConnell - it was not a dance to relate to the Maori culture at all or to an actual Haka. How little attention did you pay to the episode? Also to say it was "clickbait" ignores that it wasn't developed to be shown in pieces on UA-cam. It was by no means offensive.
C J I think you need to watch the episode again, they literally said it was “paying homage to New Zealand” and the dance was called Haka. You’re clearly unfamiliar with New Zealand, because Maori culture IS New Zealand culture. So I’m not sure what you mean by saying wasn’t related to Maori culture or an actual Haka - given the dance was called Haka which is an aspect of Maori culture. Of course you don’t find it offensive because you clearly have no knowledge of what you’re talking about
Yeah are we DONE shitting all over Nia even though she was the only girl to make major improvements when she was given scraps, literal scraps from Abby and the producers (example: like only like 3 solos in season 6, the girls were like barely training, and Abby never paid any attention to her). And can we stop underrating Camryn, she’s literally just as good as Kalani or Brynn and nobody ever talks about her. She’s literally incredible.
EXACTLY. People are mad because she's not saying anything now. But people literally bullied her from the time she was 9 until she was grown because of the show. And no one called Abby out on racism but Holly. You can't expect people to keep screaming for help when no one's around that willing to help
TheZombifiedFairy yes!!! Holly and Nia called out Abby all the time and there would people in the fandom who would get mad at them for doing it too! Like huh???
Remember in season 7 when the girls left Abby and became the irreplaceables. Camille said Camryn was called an ugly n-word because of drama that happened between Brynn and Camryn on social media. ( both girls said this drama was resolved and they’re mutual friends now) literally after Camille said that she started crying and no one cared but Cheryl. No one even comforted Camille apart from her own daughter. I don’t blame Camryn for saying in her dance moms video that she felt like no one cared about her or her Mom. She wasn’t treated well on the show. Also apparently Jill said (according to Ashlee) during a season 7B episode that Jill didn’t want Camryn on the irreplaceables team. I felt so bad for them. Nia literally only got featured roles based on her race. The Rosa Parks Dance, Good help is hard to find and Free at last. If she had gotten other lead roles which weren’t based on her race then it could be argued she wasn’t typecased. But the problem was that was the time only time she was featured. The one time she wasn’t given lead roles based on her race she had to portray a “traitor” based on what “Nia did” which was recording a song...it’s so ridiculous . It’s so unfair. She was typecasted. Oh yeah and her solo “promised land” also remember when Abby called Nia’s braids horrible. She never wore braids on the show since, I really hope she don’t let Abby’s rudeness bring her down because she has lovely hair .
Here's the thing, it wasn't just abby. It's partly on lifetime for feeding it and allowing it to happen even encouraging it. We all know how much the producers ran that show.
This is your best one yet, thank you for addressing the subject. The first time I was shocked by a hint of racism was when Holly was telling the moms about her experiences as a black woman, how she was discriminated and such. I remember Jill's surprise, "I had no idea these things were happening to you" (as in "you're educated and rich"). What kind of a privilege bubble do you have to inhabit in order to ignore racism exists? I live in Argentina, and if I do have a better assessment of the situation is simply because Jill doesn't care about educating herself. Now I learn that she also perpetrates those racist actions, and it only makes sense.
I was very surprised about Christi but relieved that she's taking time to publicly do better. I've also been pleasantly surprised to see how vocal Melissa has been
I absolutely love these, I’ve watched every episode again in quarantine! This is the most meaningful episode yet! Amazing, thank you for educating the white people. Excellent execution of the cause.
And I love that you pointed out that the fandom always say that the black dancer are the weakest and it's not right! Thank you for speaking the truth!!!
Holly was by FAR the classiest and calmest of the moms. Every time another mom would get in a screaming match with Abby, Abby would just brush it off but once Holly was involved, Abby would lose her mind and act like Holly had stabbed her in the back. EVEN THOUGH Holly was always calm, cool, and collected and rarely (if ever) swore during their arguments.
Abby has so many other problems than racism, like emotionally abusive toward Paige, Brooke, and Chloe (I'm not saying racism is not important, it is very important, and Abby has definitely cross the line there), but realize that Abby is not only racist, but also a narcissist and a control freak. She should be fired along time ago for the way she treated the girls.
The whole world is changing right now and im praying that everything will get better soon❤️ Racism is so horrible.... All those children who are living in fear just because of their skin colour... All those people who are sitting in jail for no reason and all people who died just because they wanted to change their lives and our world.... We can't give up....we are all humans and everybody of us matters❤️Im deeply sorry for all those people and i hope things will get better soon but for all who read this. Our thoughts are dedicated to each and everyone of you ❤️ take care and good luck❤️
No one should be mad at Christi anymore cause instead of taking the route of standing by what she said and being racist she took it as an education route and is now fighting for what is right.
BTW, Thanks for this video!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I've said, racism is like salt, its in almost everything, even if you can't taste it. It has different names other than salt and sodium, so people look at the ingredients and assume there's none in it if they don't see those two words. AND ITS WORSE FOR SOME PEOPLE THAN OTHERS. For us, it can get REALLY HARD to remember that not all white/nonblack people are racists toward black people, and that some are good enough to just be normal people. Thanks for being normal. 👍🏽❤️
Why did I just get this notification it came out 1 minute ago youtube you need to catch up Ps Definitely worth the wait I’m really excited to watch you should definitely have more subscribers
Always good content. Every time I watch your video, I have a feeling that you're one of the most rational people on the internet. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. ❤️
we ALL knew that kamryn was the token black girl in s8 bc they promoted her before the season aired as if she was on the show for at least half- if not all of the season!! and yet she was only there for 2 episodes. AND they didn’t even promote paris at all. that just shows me that lifetime and collins avenue were only trying to hide the implicit racial biases going on
Are people suprised about Cathy, she literally did a "build the wall" dance!!??
Doesn’t someone on their interview said she was ???
when was this ??
I was very surprised tbh
I think it was season 7
THE WHAT DANCE!?!?
Reminds me of the time Jill wanted Kendall to portray Rosa Parks 😅
Rosa parks
Lol. I think that was “scripted”/staged for drama. Jill said in another interview that she wouldn’t dream of actually having her daughter do that role in a million years
THATS THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT WHEN THIS VIDEO POPPED UP!
"My little Kendall would be perfect" cringey-est Jill move. The fact that Abby even entertained that anyone but Nia could have played Rosa Parks was disgusting. I mean Holly and the rest of the moms clearly knew it was just Abby and the producers trying to create drama but that shouldn't have been the way they did it
That hits different in time like this.
okay but i wish holly and nia spoke out cause they have been with her for the longest so she probably said so much to her
As bold and brave as they are, you have to stop and think about why they didn't hop on this foolishness. Also why didn't Kristi and Asia do it if Abby is so racist? Because everything is blown out of proportion and dont really make sense that why.
Real American Negro Asia is mixed so she has more white plus she had more advanced training since she didn’t grow up in the “hood” Abby knew she couldn’t say anything bad about her
Holly distances herself from the “black experience “ it’s a damn shame
Jorelle Taylor but Holly has always stood up for black culture when one mom or that one vegan guy compared veganism to their slavery.
Alaina in that example she was standing up for slavery but not black culture. She distances herself and Nia from black culture until “black girl magic” came out and then they tried to act different and make posts saying “black girl magic”
Y’all remember when nia and Khalani did that African duet and Abby said she thought khalani was more African than nia..
That piss me off kalani is Latino
Latisha Anderson shes Hawaiian
@@hails-b1s actually shes white. I can't find her dad's ethnicity but Kira is Basque American which is a small section of the spanish and french border and every website I can find says that Kalani is caucasian.
I can't i-
Exactly nia is African American her nationality is American!
I don’t know why Lifetime is acting like they JUST found out Abby is problematic. From the dances to the comment about Nia’s hair they new that she was being treated differently because of her race. Lifetime should be held as accountable as Abby.
EXACTLY... After everything she’s done to Nia and all the other girls, they still reward her with spin-off shows and other things. It’s about time the cancelled her.
Right season one and two she had either a jungle theme or was portraying transgender women /drag queen she only got one lyrical pretty dance. Abby also called her a “Black diva” and her excuse for the foolish jungle themed dances was to get ready for her to go to auditions that wanted an ethnic girl but what auditions did she send Nia to?
The producers are awful the way they manipulated them
honestly the knew, they just didn't want to get bad press from it.
They did it to save face. They knew about all the things she had been saying but now that people are realizing how toxic the environment was on that show, they needed to do something quick.
can i just say that i HATED that whenever a black girl was on the team, she was portrayed as a weaker dancer?
-abby was always criticizing nia and camryn
-nicaya got horrible choreography that didn't showcase her true abilities
-kammy only stayed for one week
-paris was always ignored, never in the front of the group numbers, never got a duet/trio, and when lifetime gives her ONE solo, they don't air it, post it, or include it in "unseen dances, untold stories"
Ikr, even though Paris was only there for a few weeks, I bet Berkleigh (have no idea how to spell her name) solo would’ve aired
Also in the special episode where they all got together and talked Paris was only there for half the time..
omg the volume in this bus is WAYYYYY to loud
narniaaa because she definitely lost passion. I saw a video of the girls doing tricks and she slayed. I feel If abby would’ve played with her abilities she would be amazing.
I noticed it at a young age but bc I was very young I didn’t realise why until now. It’s so terrible to see a certain race being portrayed as weak, especially a show that kids watch bc they can take from this and believe it
@narniaaa Nia has said that they did things like deliberately choreograph her turns on her weaker side so that she looked worse and different things like that. It was common for any of the girls that Abby consistently said were poor dancers.
If they were really such bad dancers then they wouldn't have been able to keep up in the group numbers.
Racism is a huge problem in the Dance Moms community. Not always in the fandom (which is mainly supportive) but on the show. Abby is truly racist. I feel the worst for Nicaya/Kaya, they were so misunderstood. It's really sad how the show makes innocent people seem bad, and the evil seem good... (Abby).
Edit: 1K LIKES WHATTT
Except Abby was openly evil but people still like her because she's famous
I agree with you, groups like Drum Corps International and Bands of America are no different than Abby Lee in that they use colored minority and disabled bands and corps to distract people from their problems with abuse, hazing, discrimination, assault of young women, and harassment for the men who stand up.
www.reddit.com/r/FlyingCircusOrchestra/
Yep. I rewatched recently and found I actually really love Kaya. She’s so smart and passionate and seems really lovely
Still
I agree
I always knew that Abby had a racist problem but I never realized the other cast mates were that way. I completely understand lifetime decision. If someone is going to be only racist and keep saying things that are offensive then they need to stay far away from each other. What sickens me is that people still have these narrow minded ideas about race. I also don’t appreciate Abby making fun of Nia and Camryn whether it was their feet,hair ect. These are little girls and your saying things that are extremely hurtful.
I was really wanting to hear an interview from Holly and Nia. Both of the had some of the most intelligent conversations and had some greatest moments on the series. But yeah I don’t like how the producers treated the cast members who were of color. Yeah I feel bad for Kaya and Nicaya and how they were treated. Stereotyping people is not okay at all
I think one of the worst things is when Abby said Kalani did the Traditional African Dance better than Nia which is awful.
Anyways good job on this episode and keep up the good work
Daniel Mackowiak I absolutely agree, preposterous!
I don’t think it was bad that Abby said kalani did the dance better than Nia, I think it was bad that she said ‘Kalani looked more African in the dance than Nia’, which is awful
@@Valentina-uy3tl Yes I think that's what she / he meant to say..but that IS EXTREMELY HURTFUL
Grace Lu I meant to say that. Thank you.
IDK IDC That wasn’t what was bad. If Kalani has better technique and power then that’s the truth BUT Abby went on to say that she expected it the other way around just because Nia was black like she should have some African heritage spirit in her body or whatever and that’s just racist. Holly, rightfully, called her out by saying they are AMERICAN not from the continent of Africa.
I can vouch for Camryn and Nicaya. Camryn danced at my studio in St.Louis when I was in the senior division and her and Camille are both great people. Camryn and Nicaya are wayyy more talented than the show portrayed. Camryn and Nicaya both went to phenomenal dance studios and high schools in the St.Louis area. I hope they get the recognition they deserve.
I really admire your story on both Camryn and Nicaya. I’m recently watching clips from the show and it looked like that both had so much potential.
Camille seems like such a good mom
@@izzyc127 thank you! I believe Nicaya is studying at the Boston Conservatory and Camryn is in LA dancing. Yes Camille was always so nice! I didn’t really get to talk to them that much though because I was in the senior division and Cam was in junior/mini at the time. 2012/2013 was my senior year. I wish them all the success in the world 💕
@@angelaluna7532 you’re absolutely welcome!
I believe Christie has also attended a couple protests. She and Melissa have been the most outspoken non-black DM cast members in support of BLM. Likewise, Maddie, kenzie, and Chloe have also used their platform to really spread the message and educate and have (I believe all) attended protests. Brooke is probably the next most supportive. Kendall, Jill, and Paige all just did a couple generic posts (Jill and Kendall both posted 2 identical posts). Kalani has been the least involved (just a black square. That is it), Brynn has been a bit questionable and scarce, but still has made posts. Jojo hasn’t said much of anything, but I think that has more to do with the fact that her socials are curated for small children. I didn’t look into the season 8 cast much since they are still kids, but I did see that Hannah posted a blackout Tuesday square with a longer caption in support and she has linked a few things.
Which isn’t surprising since both Kendall AND jill are heavy trump supporters and have a following of trump supporters
The only reason jojo hasn’t addressed the situation where living in is because of her child audience the rest of the girls have tweens and teens as an audience plus jojo is the most famous one of them all some people would attack her if she said her own opinion just some celebrity’s need to be quite to maintain their fame ofc it would be great if jojo makes her child audience aware of the situation and I completely understand why she hasn’t spoken out about.
laxx4lifechey it’s sad how I expected Jill and Kendall to support him ☹️
So is Ashley, so that could be the reason Brynn has been so quiet. There's a good possibility that she shares her mothers views.
I wouldn’t expect anything from Ashlee & Brynn. Their privilege is just so far gone that I think they’re blinded by it.
Jill & Kelly are both Trump supporters so it’s no surprise that Kendall, Brooke, & Paige wouldn’t be as outspoken. I expected more from Kira & Kalani, and I’m kind of disappointed that they haven’t been more outspoken.
JoJo has said a few things, but considering her platform is very young children, I know a lot of parents would probably be upset solely for the fact she’s opening kids up to all that (however she did say something similar to what Nickelodeon said, a very kid friendly version).
I personally haven’t really seen anything from Maesi or any of the S8 dancer, but they are all younger and a lot of them (especially the S8 dancers) seem to not really have much control over their own social media accounts.
kaya is also a lesbian, so i cant imagine the amount of off handed comments she must have gotten for that too. i remember when she told the moms she had a wife they were all like 👁👄👁
really :0
:O
She doesn’t have a wife tho
Yeah Nicaya said on her Instagram that the mums said a lot of shit about that to her like calling her the d word and insulting her for being a single mum
Fxck_itz Cj she does they got married and that’s why nicaya did that wedding inspired solo xx
I’m appalled at lifetime!!!! They only dropped Abby after her contract is done and she is no longer earning them money 💰 they sat back and not only witnessed this behaviour but have it on film and still didn’t see anything wrong with it!
Exactly and they are only doing this because of their image
They definitely share the blame! I’m surprised that most of the media articles are calling Abby out, but not mentioning the way that Lifetime was fully aware of all the things she was saying and gave her a platform for 9 years.
Ik!! They only cared once BLM became a huge movement, they clearly wanted to protect their own image, not the people on their shows who have faced injustice. Its disgusting.
EXACTLY! Very hypocritical and fake. They are only "supportive" because it's trendy now, not because they actually care. They were well aware of the racism always period.
Thank you for pointing out this shameless PR move. If Lifetime genuinely cared about how PoC were treated on Dance Moms, they had plenty of time to change how they depicted the moms and dancers of color on the show, fire Abby before she could insult and unfairly treat more beautiful dancers, do SOMETHING. They chose not to because they were still making money.
Not to mention when Jade did that solo called "Far East" 😒
Imperfect Animal i was so uncomfortable when they gave her that solo!! like, it literally could have been anything else (it was just an acro solo!!)
And she hadn't done acro since she was 8! They did her dirty on the show, she's better irl
yesss that was very uncomfortable...
MackZBoss actually put that in the video!! I’m Asian and Abby was so rude for that. She loves to typecast.
Or when Vivi played an Asian princess when THERE WAS LITERALLY AN ASIAN GIRL IN THE GROUP
As a black viewer of dance moms, I’ve always noticed the racism from the moms and the coaches 🤷🏾♀️ and the sad thing about it I would just ride it off because I love the girls so much
Exactly
same I would notice but I always hoped that it was just being used as drama. All the black dancers on this show had to deal with so much crap.
When were the moms racist?
I literally stop watching dance moms
As a white viewer of Dance Moms I have noticed the same thing since day 1
Someone called poor little cammy the n word on her live I was crushed, most of the dance moms community is honestly so racist and toxic it’s just sad.
I hope whoever said that gets their head blown off, she shouldn't have to see that crap.
That’s absolutely disgusting. She is a CHILD.
You expect people watching a reality tv show to be kind and caring?
Boneless Communism They can at least show some decency towards others....
Boneless Communism that no excuse, shame on you
honestly, being a black girl in the competition world, going to a studio with mostly little rich white girls who go to their perfect little christian schools. i’ve always felt like i was treated like i was weaker even when i go to competitions, or have dealt with other teachers outside of my studio that praised me. for a long time i found the faculty and students would make backhanded comments to me, always trying to touch my hair , would get spray tans for competition and say “hey i look like kiya” or would type cast me so i could fit these “black girl roles” when i went to advanced ballet class, they were literally shocked that i could dance??? people always look at the black girls and automatically assume that we are less or we can’t dance. this needs to change. and let’s not even talk about how literally no studios in my town have spoken up about black lives matter. but y’all don’t see color... ok
Thank you for saying this. What happened on dance moms is indicative of a much larger problem that occurs throughout the dance world
That's awful, I'm so sorry you had to go through that :( I'm sure your dancing is beautiful, I'm glad that you didn't let situations like that get you down! ❤️
I felt the same way but I’m asian.
Im so sorry that you experienced that.🥺Im a competitive dancer as well, however I’ve only ever been on predominantly black teams. We often get comments as a whole team like. “Oh but you dont do ballet do you?” Or “you guys must do a lot of hip hop” and then we see shocked faces when we beat them. As if there was no way those little black girls could win. Your right, there is a lot of assumptions and stereotypes towards black dancers. But our instructors always tell us to kill them with our dancing, to show them that little black girls can have good technique. Keep pushing. If your experiencing prejudice from your team, maybe its time to switch. The competition world is hard. Especially for black dancers. But don’t ever stop because of others ignorance. Show them what you can do!❤️😚
It’s so sad that this is such a common experience for black kids in almost any extra curricular program they enter I had similar experiences when I did Cheer and Color guard I literally was bullied by my coaches in-front of the entire team, I literally had my captains and coaches refuse to speak to me for most of the season except to accuse me of stealing equipment or saying that it wasn’t fair that my hair didn’t match everyone else’s. It’s so sad that we have to go through these things just to do what we love and enjoy. I am sorry you had to go through that and to every other black kid who has had similar experiences I am sorry as well and just know we see you and we love you!
Kaya is amazing. She raised four children by herself, worked two jobs, graduated college, made dean’s list, lived in a safe neighborhood, enrolled her children in great schools, got a job as a social worker, and still had time to support Nikaya’s dance training. I was amazed when I watched that part of the video for the first time. She’s such an accomplished, spectacular woman. The show portrayed her so poorly, which really isn’t fair. She worked so hard and was so smart. She deserves more recognition. I liked her character in the first episode she was in. She seemed courageous, intelligent, and truly cared about her daughter. The show slowly made her seem like more of a stereotypical angry black woman. But she deserves to be treated like the smart, accomplished, hardworking, protective person that she is.
Frank Person definitely agree with you 100% she a hard working women!
Well, she screamed like a maniac and cursed like a sailor, in front of all these kids, what did she expect her portrayal would look like?! Holly on the other hand used logic and not curse words even when the emotions were high, so there is that. You can be educated and not have class, Holly has class Kaya does not.
Ok she did what any other member of society is expected to do…woohoo….
I feel so bad for Kaya and Nicaya. They were made to look like horrible people, yet Kaya was just defending her child after Abby and Cathy tried to tear them down. It only showed her reaction and not what people said to them. They seem like such a kind and happy family.
I’m also glad Christi is willing to change and own up to her mistakes. She seems like the mom that’s most open to change and learning.
Yes!!
I agree they were probably made to look like bad people but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Kaya DID speak poorly about another child on social media and Nicaya acted like a sore loser after the competition when Kendall beat her. “You only won because you’re famous” isn’t professional or mature in the slightest and even if that was the case, it was inappropriate to say in a mature setting and for her age it looks bratty. She couldn’t take her loss with grace. And Kaya, despite being a passionate, courageous, hardworking woman she DID act out of line on multiple occasions which I can’t defend. And that goes for moms like Kelly, Christi, Leslie, Kristie, etc. They may have been portrayed badly in some settings, but they weren’t 100% innocent victims.
@@wg6276 her kid didn’t cry because kendall won she kid over something else dumbass they mad it look like she cried when kendall won
@@wg6276you must not watch these videos because everything you said is incorrect
Camryn Bridges made her video calling out Abby's racism 9 months ago (yes I checked) and Abby and Lifetime had nothing to say about it then. I'm glad they're shutting it down now but I'm not impressed with their delayed reaction. I'm just waiting patiently for Holly and Nia to say what they think, though if Lifetime still owns Nia's music and is still involved in her career, it probably won't be much.
True! They didn't care about it until it affected their own image. That's disgusting!
Remember when they bought gucci bags for every girl? Wasnt it because of some racist stuff Abby said?
@@leena75 I remember reading about her calling Nia a tootie referring to a token black girl and then the production team buying them all ipads. It's sad.
Lets not forget that Abby said Kalani was more African than NIA umm...
Damnnn when
Melanie Mars season 6
Damn SHE'S DUSGUSTING
@@prajaktapendse7310 Kira is mixed race but because Khalani has a more fair skin tone Abby treated her as if she was solely white. It was something I noticed when they did the dance based on The Help. Also pointing that fact out does not make you racist so you are literally fine lol.
Yeah I remember that
as a black person i really appreciate this, thank you!
Same here✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿
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Melissa is so amazing about this. Her and her daughters are speaking up and Kenzie donated her birthday money to BLM! This made me like their family so much more . I honestly saw Jill as a trump supporter but not Kelly. I’m so sad I really didn’t see that coming bc I loved Kelly.
Paige has a black boyfriend , go figure .
@@rissadp-m2679 just because you have a black someone doesnt mean you cant be racist or a trump supporter.
ToxicGummy I think the person just means it’s ironic not that they aren’t t racist
@@taylorricks1459 Maybe they do maybe they dont
RissaD P-M that means nothing, and she is talking about KELLY
Why was Abby saying"she was ghetto" when there's literally a black man right beside her...
I think she was trying to be “cool and trendy”
IKR. They should have checked her right there.
@@azulaeatingmochime2353 the weakest links
Zendaya’s Louboutins εïз white girls and (in this case) white men. Tony (who used to host afterbuzz and was the MC for dance moms competitions) let this woman slide for YEARS.
Kayla wdym?
While I firmly believe people can change, they have to want to change. If Christie wants to acknowledged she screwed up then I do want to give her time to see the change.
I think volumes will be spoken when the hashtags stop and we start seeing who is doing this for the right reasons and who is posting as a publicity thing.
As a fandom, we need to listen and we need to educate ourselves. POC have tried to help educate us and we haven't listened. It is not their job to teach us. We also need to expand our circles. Look for more POC owned businesses. Strike up converdation with some different from yourself. Boycott businesses cough Home Depot cough who would rather support racism than POC.
More importantly we need to hold people accountable including our loved ones. We should support our parents and our friends that are trying to do the right thing. We will end up making mistakes and saying the wrong things. Instead of attacking, we need to explain. If they continue to not listen, that is a different. I give my dad credit for the progress hes making because I know that the level he is starting at is different than my own. Not that I want credit for the right thing. I am merely saying that we should be encouraging those who are unlearning brainwashing and rewiring their morals and beliefs.
As a dance community. We can continue to call out Bloch and Capezio to continue to widen their product lines for POC. Capezio and Bloch are listening, but we need to make sure they do not forget. In your own communities look into creating programs to help those afford dance classes that might not otherwise have the opportunity.
We all have different "jobs" to do in this movement. Find yours and keep moving forward. This is more than a hash tag, we are fighting for people's lives.
This is brilliant; I hope it gets pinned.
I’m Black and I pride myself of being a good judge 👩⚖️ of character and Christi being racist makes no sense I don’t see it.
Okay Ashley if you wanna feel like you are in blame then good for you but stop your laugh worthy propaganda, no to racism but no to feeling like we did anything wrong, live your life with human decency and all will be fine, you are brainwashed,not other people, guarantee you that ,, POCS " treat other people like shit as well so stop with that bs
Damn it kelly and Christi.... I loved y’all but at least Christi apologized.
Someone said Christi and Melissa joined the protest but i dont know
@@sulemysofia I don't agree with that because I could tell how sincere she was. Christi has apologised again and again for things she said on the show unlike other moms. I truly believe she is sorry and is not just doing it for her child's' benefit. The world was different back then even though it was just a couple of years ago.
@@sulemysofia christi has attended protests and has made posts, so i think she has
@@sulemysofia Nobody said it was ever okay to make racist remarks. But if you're going to demonize people who are actively trying to educate themselves and change, you're only going to hurt the cause.
@@marissaurias5116 Yes it was okay back then, However, we know that now it's not okay because we live in a society that understands how wrong it is. If you look back not only racism was tolerated but encouraged. Donald Trump was born in the 40's he grew up in a world where Racism was tolerated. That's why he is racist. We need to learn about the past so that we understand and make better changes for the future. To simply ignore it is saying it never happened.
i knew a lot of the dance moms fandom was racist when they tried to act like asia wasn’t that great of a dancer
Not liking how someone dances is nothing to do with racism. Just like my physics teacher giving me a bad mark is because I can't do physics, not because of sexism. Bad feet are bad feet. She was OK. A lot her popularity was how cutely naughty she was. Note now she's grown she's not as popular anymore. She needed a lot of work technically and also learning to dance with other people and be versatile in more than one style. People also disliked her attitude because she was really rude on her TV show.
Or when they could excuse Maddie being a “brat” when she was 8 because she was a kid but couldn’t get passes Asia being one when she was 6-8 and being bullied by everyone around her. Or how when the other girls did sassy moves it was seen as cute or them just being kids but when Asia had them placed in her dances she was aged up and called a stripper among other horrible names. Or how they thought Asia was bullying Kenzie by improving after Abby told them too. Like the way the fandom overall treated Asia is honestly so disgusting
Exactly Asia was one of the best to ever be on the show and they deny her so much!
She was a real talent! You couldn't deny- she was head and shoulders above McKenzie. She exploded on stage and it was magic to watch!
MsJubjubbird this is a lot of dance moms fan problem.. y’all don’t what dancing is. if u take away all the girls “technique” and tricks, can they actually DANCE?? asia had the rhythm and musicality that a lot of the other girls needed.
Jill racist? Shocking. She’s still sitting around wondering why Kendall couldn’t portray Rosa Parks 🙄🙄🙄 Great videos as always!
This makes me think if Abby did anything to Paris because she was there longer than Kami. I hope it didn't but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Paris got a solo called bottom rock where she was in a bathtub
Ellie G what’s worse is the solo was about Whitney Houston drowning in her bathtub after a drug overdose
Kenny B wait really that’s shocking it makes me wanna puke
Kenny B wow I didn’t know that. That is disgusting
Kenny B I am so shocked and disgusted that someone would make a girl do a solo based on the death of a celebrity. What’s next? a solo in a bed with a pill bottle portraying the death of Marilyn Monroe?
Thank you so much for addressing this. This is really something that the dance moms community needed to hear. Racism is horrible! What's worse is that we don't know everything that goes on behind the camera, which means that the girls could have subjected to even more racism and disrespect :(
I used to love Cathy after ur videos saying she wasn’t as bad as we think. I’m quite upset she was racist. I do know Abby was racist but
Cathy I gave you a lot of respect but right there you cross the line -Dr Holly
And I was shocked at Christi but
I’m so happy she has apologized and she has owned her action in quite happy. And I’m happy ur using ur platform for good too keep it up xxxx
Edit: I realized it’s not my place to forgive these people who have been racist so I apologize :) x
I think can forgive Christy because she apologized and you can see that she is trying to do better.
Me too! Christi's response seems very sincere. Also I remember in one of the DMUncovered episode, it reveals that Christi regretted many things she has done or said in the show, and she wanted to improve herself.
It honestly could’ve been any of the Christie’s. She didn’t spell it right so. I think it could be Christy, she’s very old fashion
I know Christi regrets many things she said and did on the show, and she doesn’t shy away from taking accountability for her actions and you can tell she is always trying to better herself. As for the other moms (Kelly, Jill, Kira, Melissa, & Ashlee), I think they’re all very pretentious and don’t see an issue with anything they did on the show. I know Jessalynn has also said that she didn’t really like the atmosphere on the show and that some of her actions were made to make her look bad when in reality, the things she did were reactions to the other mothers being unapologetically vile. That’s why in this household, we stan Holly, Christi, Camille, & Jess only 😌
Remember the build the wall dance?
Thank you for addressing the indigenous voices that are not given the same international attention!
I really want to know about Asia Monet Ray,She doesn't really speak about her time on Dance Moms
I believe her experience was okay
As she was one of Abby's favourites from AUDC
she was a favorite and wasnt fully black and abby loved the way her mom looked
It makes no sense how asia was only in the show for less than a season, suddenly left without notice and got her own spinoff years later. What happened to her dance moms contract? Kristy probably did something iffy hence why she doesnt talk to abby anymore
Michael Murphy same with Jade (the Vietnamese girl from the select team in season 4)
I don’t blame cast members who were on the show briefly and want to leave it behind. It’s tough for reality show people to get taken seriously in Hollywood.
Seriously, I hate how some people, like Kaya said when she was talking about Cathy, are like “I’m not racist, my sister/brother/niece/nephew etc is black!” And how some people are supporting BLM when they have been openly racist before and support people like Trump, who has also openly been racist. I’m happy Lifetime basically fired Abby, I don’t get how some people still support Abby after all she’s done. Love your vids! I’ve watched all of them on a loop like a crazy person lmao
Your voice at the end sounded like you were going to cry, and I was too! 😢 #BLM
wow i thought abby's contract ended after season 7 so she chose not to do season 8. 9what she said in one of her vids on her yt channel) did she get fired? dangg
psychopath no, her contract was for 4 seasons with a 4 season option. So it ended in season 8
psychopath yeah she did get fired, according to the news
Sloane Price Hardly trump is openly racist sexist and islamaphobic you can’t even support his policies without saying you don’t support him
I don't support what she has said or done but I will truly miss dance moms
Thank you for speaking out on this situation!! And I commend and thank the moms and daughters for speaking out on this... I know it takes a lot of guts and mental preparation. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎
Absolutely! I can't even imagine how tough it must be to speak out against such well-known people.
I'm black but I really don't think dancemoms should have been ended
Jada/Jade Edwards I think so, Abby (and the producers) tormented, manipulated, and bullied every single one of the girls. A handful of the girls and moms had to go therapy. And lot of the girls have insecurities and mental battles with their confidence due to Abby. The show was nice for the dancing not seeing people get hurt and afraid to go to dance class.
I’m early!! I KNEW THIS VIDEO WAS COMING NEXT LOL.
I originally had another video idea in mind, but this was just so much more important 💕
MackZBoss thank for this!!! It made me so happy. You’re a heavy influencer in the dance mom fandom, people talk about YOUR VIDEOS ALL THE TIME and recommend them to others, me included. I don’t know if you have realized it yet, BUT YOU JUST MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE in the fandom and in the world, with this video (and all your other videos). People like you, are the change I want to see in the world. 🌈❤️
I’m happy the show is ending now
Good, because I am too!
I believe that Christie is really trying to learn, even if she had said some racist things in the past. When you grow up in an environment where there is subtle racism, you’re bound to fall into that pattern until you get educated. Also I believe Brooke is genuinely supporting the movement because even though Kelly raised her, parents and children are capable of having different views. I know from experience. My dad and I definitely have different views but he is still my dad so I’m not going to “cancel” him out of my life but I will see him a little differently. Jill being racist kinda surprises me because I thought all of that crazy shit she did was for the show but nope... Kelly wasn’t a surprise. I knew she was a Trump supporter and Paige was also a Trump supporter and I feel like she hasn’t changed her views. Just because she has a black boyfriend does not mean that she’s not racist. I never liked Ashlee and Brynn. Seeing how Brynn has been racist in the past, I can see how Ashlee can be the one who’s teaching her those same views. Kira and Kahlani, I am shocked. I didn’t think they were that way but yea that’s a big yikes. I’m glad that the Lukasiaks and the Zieglers are outspoken.
I also was kinda sad that Cathy is a blatant racist because I liked her on the show and I thought some of the racist things were staged by the producers. But no, she’s actually like that. Abby doesn’t surprise me. We all knew and good that she finally got fired but Lifetime is only doing this because other companies are getting backlash for not supporting BLM. So I don’t think it was genuine because if it was, they would have done it a long time ago. I’m glad you used this episode to speak out about the movement.
I definitely agree. Ik all those moms stereotypes Kaya as the angry black women. And for holly to not stand up for her appalled me bc she should’ve known what it’s like to be stereotyped. I lowkey felt like Kira and kalani were lowkey racist cuz yk theyre just the type to not be outspoken about it. Ashlee and Brynn are the same they keep theres lowkey. I do feel like Christi and Melissa have changed, and I don’t rly think Melissa was trying to be racist I think she was just trying to fit in with the moms, and it lowkey killed her how the moms treated kaya. I do think Christi has definitely changed. As for the hylands, as Leslie said on the show Kelly grew up very privileged and rich and that’s how she raised her kids so they don’t shprosie me much.
Poo Teee The show made her seem as the angry black mom and I feel so bad that I also fell into that stereotype. People have been saying that Holly is not integrated into black culture because she didn’t stand up for the Black Lives Matter movement and she seems to be mostly with white friends. I just think that they grew up differently and they were very privileged to not face as much discrimination or got used to it because of Lifetime giving Nia a career. I don’t think we should judge Holly and Nia too much because they did stand up for the movement although hopefully they will say more about Abby when they feel ready.
I never felt that Kira and Kalani were racist but Ashlee and Brynn, I did because of the things she said on the internet and the friends she had. Christi was probably like Kelly at first but she learned and that’s why I admire her. People can still change. I don’t know about Melissa doing it to fit in with the moms. She was probably like that because of the producer bias. And I didn’t know that Kelly grew up privileged but it doesn’t surprise me. I believe that people are very sheltered and don’t have a lot of outside experience with the world can become racist and that’s why it’s important to learn about other people’s experiences.
@@pooteee4533 Melissa was never like that, so there's no need for her to do things to fit in with the other moms.
Lillian Duo no but yk sometimes she said things just to fit in with the moms. Like she said one thing to their face and said sum else to someone else’s face. I don’t think she was rly racist I just think she didn’t want to be on the outs
Ilsen Leon yeah I think that Holly definitely gave Nia a more privileged life, holly always talked about how she was from the Bronx and had a hard growing up life . So I would think holly would understand Kayas situation more. Melissa I think she felt bad how the moms treated Kaya but she didn’t want to be on the outs with the moms so she didn’t say anything. I definitely think that Christi has changed… I can’t say if Kelly has changed I just think she’s more quiet about it
I've grown up in the dance world and there was always a racist undertone. From my hair being an issue, to believing that I wouldn't get lead roles simply because of my skin. Dance Moms was a terrible show for everyone involved but ESPECIALLY for all of the incredibly talented African Americans on the show. Nia, Nicaya, Kamryn, and Camryn were all so incredibly underrated and shown to be talent less when in reality, they were all talented and improved a ton over the years. It boggled my mind that anyone would've wanted this rancid show to continue. I'm so glad it's over and Abby is being held accountable for all the crap she's done to these dancers. No 7 year old deserves to hear that they are there to be a sprinkle of color and that's it. Holly needs to speak out, she will earn so much more of my respect if she does. I guess we shall see.
I love that Christi publicly apologized and held herself accountable for her past actions.
thank you so much for making this video!! abby’s apology was the epitome of a PR move. nothing about it was genuine at all. lifetime needs to apologize as well because they aided and covered up so much racism. as a black person myself, the way black people were portrayed on dance moms always irritated my soul, especially with the juxtaposition of holly being the “smart black woman” and kaya being “ghetto”. i have no respect for abby, the producers, kelly, jill, and anyone else involved in dance moms who was a racist. i’m so glad this movement is happening and that we are calling people out! i support all of the beautiful black moms/daughters of dance moms ❤️
that's so upsetting that nicaya had to create a majority of HER OWN solo that was meant to be choreographed by cathy, it's disgusting how after she danced, kaya thanked cathy for making it now that we know that she barely even made it. poor kaya and nicaya. :(
Lifetime made a lot of money with this "show"... they too should be held accountable!
last time i was this early vivi was cutting her hand on her moms ring
Hope she can still dance
Mmck :D me too.
Vivi is an icon 🤣
I love how your message at the end of the video sounds unscripted. It really shows how important the Black Lives Matter movement is.
Yes I noticed this too
I’m so glad the show is ending. It’s been going on for too long, and it’s been tricking young kids into thinking this behavior is alright. I’m so glad you made this video
Thank you so much for setting the record straight and making sure that these people do not get unfairly judged. This channel is extremely underrated
Im still surprised that out of anyone, holly and nia haven't said shit. and im surprised because Holly and Abby fought all the time about it.
I think holly and nia have a contract with the lifetime producers so I think they can’t say anything negative about the show, but I’m not sure. But also again they have been with Abby for a long time so I guess they don’t want drama but I think they should speak out cause she was really popular on the show.
My face was like your profile pic
People need to understand that people handle racism in different ways and who knows it might be mentally draining for them to speak about their experiences,. Or sometimes when you’re a black persons in a predominantly white space you try to fit the “model minority” and let things slide for the sake of keeping the peace and not drawing attention to yourself it’s sad but it happens a lot
Holly probably doesn't want nia to talk about it she's done with dance moms she shouldent have to speak on it if she dosent want to
Racism needs to stop we are all human being and any human being who doesn’t see that is heartless
There’s worst things to be than racist lmao
I also remember when Cathy told nicaya to shave her armpits in front of a bunch of fans😤
😳😤😡😠
I think it was in the practice room where they wait during a competition. The room that is designated for a particular dance company where they get ready, do their makeup, and practice their routines in. It wasn't in front of a bunch of fans but viewers worldwide, unfortunately, saw it.
this is a *race* for equality
you cant win a race *without running* ! !
(This has nothing to do with equality) But some races you can win without running like drinking water the fastest
until the protesters catch coronavirus and can't breathe anymore.
Lifetime always knew about Abby's racism, she was just making them too much money for them to care. They employed token black cast members knowing full well what their experience with her would be like. Not to mention Paige and Kelly's lawsuit highlighting some other racist comments by Abby.
Thankyou for uncovering things and putting this drama show in a different light! Also yes we should NOT be judging based on skin.
This video was so incredible!!! Thank you for speaking up about this.
Can you explore the relationship between abby and Debbie Allen. In one episode she hates her. Then the next one shes honored to meet her.
Thanks so much for making such an important video and helping raise awareness about what's really been happening. Amazing as always!!!
i feel like Melissa Kenzie and Maddie have been doing the most.
Same
About what?
@@karimahc2111 About black lives matter
What do you mean nia is helping out too a lot of dancers are it's not only them I know you are not saying it's only them but a lot of people are helping and chloe is also helping
I feel like all the black kids are doing the most.
Early! Btw I think you should do a video about Abby's senior team, because we never saw much of them. On Abby's insta she apologized for being racist to kamryn and others, but didn't mention Nia. I don't know if you mentioned this because I haven't watched the vid.
Omg i feel like the senior team wouldve
been so fun to watch
The way you put this video is extremely respectful and to the point. Thank you
Dude this channel is so good! You work so hard and deserve more recognition. This is my favorite UA-cam account
That’s so weird how holly has stayed quiet
Probably bc she doesn’t want to loose her white friends like Jill and Kelly
Never did like Holly something about her rub me the wrong way
When talking about dance moms they get so much hate. Their words get twisted and it’s terrible. That’s what happened to nicaya on her live. People were twisting her words when all she said was Maddie didn’t talk to her. Nia and holly I bet want to move on and not be associated with dance moms.
@@ely8e likely so. I wouldn't want to be either tbh
Saniyah Phillips but Kelly has claimed that Abby has said racist things in the past. She was the one who brought forward the “little tooties” incident.
I always look forward to these videos! I’m a dance moms dedicated UA-cam channel and I love to hear all of the things that go on behind the scenes! Thank you so much for speaking out about this situation as well, this is a true turning point in society and I respect you so much for addressing this!💕
She literally said to nia "fix this hair cause it's horrible" and nia said that nias braids looked liked worms and that really hurt nia because she really liked them.
•Me: (minding my business)
•Kaya, Nicaya, Camille, Camryn, Adriana, & Kamryn: (exposes Abby & Cathy’s racism)
•Me: (waiting for Nia & Holly to respond 😳)
The Nia stuff was already pretty public. Holly didn't get the stereotype edit.
I'm not saying they had it easy because they defnitely didn't.
love this series watched every one like 6 times aha, your content is amazing and are always interesting, ive been subbed for a while and yeah, hope you see my comment
Same brooo
Thank you! It means a lot to hear that you enjoy watching my videos :D
@@MackZBoss I sways wached your video
Yes this is a huge issue! Thank you for shining more light on their words!
I’m rewatching the series (again) and because of your series I’ve noticed little things that I’ve never seen before, I watched the episode with Black Patsy having the verbal altercation with Jill (the episode where Broadway baby dies) and I never noticed that when Melisa is crying during Maddy’s solo Black Patsy hands her a tissue and it looks like she tries to console her. Not something a “villain” would do. Just something I noticed.
Exactly. If you notice when the argument begins when Kaya comments on Nia and Kendall’s dancing, Abby gaslit her to start popping off.
OMG I've never been this early, I love your channel it's the best!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much!!
Same gurl
I just recently binged dance moms again and in one episode Holly and Camille were trying to explain how segregation still exists and that they would not be able to buy homes in certain neighborhoods. Instead of listening to what they had to say and trying to learn the moms, mostly Jill did not believe anything they were saying. Jill just said I don't think that's true when both Holly and Camille were expressing their frustrations. I can totally see Jill being racist and a trump supporter, I think our first clue was her not realizing the issue with trying to make Kendall Rosa Parks... yikes
This situation as a whole truly breaks my heart. As a white woman, I admit that never once in my whole life have I had to fear for myself just because of my race. Others do not have that luxury otherwise these atrocities wouldn’t happen.
That being said, even though Lifetime dropped Abby I personally think that it shouldn’t have taken 8 seasons and public outcry in order to make this decision. My friend is currently studying child and adolescent development, and she has always said that Abby and possibly a few of the moms have blatantly abused the girls on national TV and no one has ever done anything about it. The producers are a huge part of the problem because they knew that Abby said some abusive and racist things, otherwise they wouldn’t be obliged to keep it hidden. In fact, it’s even worse when you realize that they kept some of it in the show in order to have drama and make money. These beautiful dancers deserved so much better and my heart goes out to them. I’m glad to hear that some of them are using their platforms for BLM ❤️
Who else is on the Nicya Camille and Kaya Cameron’s side now
I’ve always been on their side and not just because I’m black or their black..
they deserved SO much better.
Yes and Nia
Thank you for this series and thank you for this episode. We all love this show, but it was racist and we as a fandom need to be held accountable for allowing it for so long.
I would also love an apology from the producers. The producers chose culturally appropriating dances. The producers type-casted their students of color. The producers hid information to make cast members seem less racist.
Thank you for making this. I honestly wasn't even aware of half the things abby has done and this video really opened my eyes. I am disgusted by some her actions and the fact that she keeps trying to deny them or justify them is awful. It really says alot about her as a person.
Ok why isn't DM Uncovered a tv show because it's amazing
#shouldbeanetflixshow
Yasssss! Or maybe a version with other tv shows
JOSÉ ALEJANDRO SOLÍS DE LA CRUZ yes!! I would love for someone to do a Keeping up with the Kardashians Uncovered!
as a black young girl I find it so amazing to listen to these girls speak. I believe that there is a revolution, and it's gonna happen. 🥺❤
Edit:Also, I have been in competitive dancing for nine years.
And let’s not forget when the Seventeen Magazine people came to find two other girls to be with Maddie and they wanted Nia and Abby said something about how Kalani would be better to have in the magazine. Abby has tried to take away opportunities for Nia constantly on the show.
I just love this series 😍 I am sooo happy right now
Have you done or could you do a deep dive into the racist dances? I personally found the “Haka” dance in season 8 deeply offensive. As a fellow Aussie, I’ve been exposed to haka quite a bit (I’m sure you have too), and I found it really upsetting that they essentially used the name for clickbait and didn’t even attempt to incorporate elements of this powerful tradition into the dance. At least with the Bollywood and African dances they did, they were true to the actual dance style, even if it’s still otherwise inappropriate. I can’t imagine how upsetting it might have been for a Māori person to have seen that dance.
Yup I’m from New Zealand and I was so excited when I heard they were doing a haka dance but I was honestly so mad when I watched the episode, there was literally nothing about the dance that was remotely related to Maori culture, the music, make up, choreography, costumes - they didn’t even get the right colour - None of it was even close. I don’t understand what the point of it was, like all they had to do was quickly google search haka and they could’ve got at least a general idea. It was the most bizarre thing I’ve ever watched
I’m from India and that bollywood dance was nowhere close to actual bollywood dances it was so cringeworthy and I couldn’t watch it 🙃
Esha Shekar yeah that’s totally understandable, I’m glad they at least consulted with someone who specialises in the style, but clearly it didn’t make a difference.
@Loretta & @Anna McConnell - it was not a dance to relate to the Maori culture at all or to an actual Haka. How little attention did you pay to the episode? Also to say it was "clickbait" ignores that it wasn't developed to be shown in pieces on UA-cam. It was by no means offensive.
C J I think you need to watch the episode again, they literally said it was “paying homage to New Zealand” and the dance was called Haka. You’re clearly unfamiliar with New Zealand, because Maori culture IS New Zealand culture. So I’m not sure what you mean by saying wasn’t related to Maori culture or an actual Haka - given the dance was called Haka which is an aspect of Maori culture. Of course you don’t find it offensive because you clearly have no knowledge of what you’re talking about
Yes this is a huge issue! Thank you for shining more light on their words
Yeah are we DONE shitting all over Nia even though she was the only girl to make major improvements when she was given scraps, literal scraps from Abby and the producers (example: like only like 3 solos in season 6, the girls were like barely training, and Abby never paid any attention to her). And can we stop underrating Camryn, she’s literally just as good as Kalani or Brynn and nobody ever talks about her. She’s literally incredible.
EXACTLY. People are mad because she's not saying anything now. But people literally bullied her from the time she was 9 until she was grown because of the show. And no one called Abby out on racism but Holly. You can't expect people to keep screaming for help when no one's around that willing to help
TheZombifiedFairy yes!!! Holly and Nia called out Abby all the time and there would people in the fandom who would get mad at them for doing it too! Like huh???
Im acc so obseesed with yur channelll! Your evidence is always so strong!
Remember in season 7 when the girls left Abby and became the irreplaceables. Camille said Camryn was called an ugly n-word because of drama that happened between Brynn and Camryn on social media. ( both girls said this drama was resolved and they’re mutual friends now) literally after Camille said that she started crying and no one cared but Cheryl. No one even comforted Camille apart from her own daughter. I don’t blame Camryn for saying in her dance moms video that she felt like no one cared about her or her Mom. She wasn’t treated well on the show. Also apparently Jill said (according to Ashlee) during a season 7B episode that Jill didn’t want Camryn on the irreplaceables team. I felt so bad for them. Nia literally only got featured roles based on her race. The Rosa Parks Dance, Good help is hard to find and Free at last. If she had gotten other lead roles which weren’t based on her race then it could be argued she wasn’t typecased. But the problem was that was the time only time she was featured. The one time she wasn’t given lead roles based on her race she had to portray a “traitor” based on what “Nia did” which was recording a song...it’s so ridiculous . It’s so unfair. She was typecasted. Oh yeah and her solo “promised land” also remember when Abby called Nia’s braids horrible. She never wore braids on the show since, I really hope she don’t let Abby’s rudeness bring her down because she has lovely hair .
Here's the thing, it wasn't just abby. It's partly on lifetime for feeding it and allowing it to happen even encouraging it. We all know how much the producers ran that show.
This is your best one yet, thank you for addressing the subject. The first time I was shocked by a hint of racism was when Holly was telling the moms about her experiences as a black woman, how she was discriminated and such. I remember Jill's surprise, "I had no idea these things were happening to you" (as in "you're educated and rich"). What kind of a privilege bubble do you have to inhabit in order to ignore racism exists? I live in Argentina, and if I do have a better assessment of the situation is simply because Jill doesn't care about educating herself. Now I learn that she also perpetrates those racist actions, and it only makes sense.
I was very surprised about Christi but relieved that she's taking time to publicly do better. I've also been pleasantly surprised to see how vocal Melissa has been
Melissa doesn't come across as racist to me at all, and this is coming from a Black person.
I absolutely love these, I’ve watched every episode again in quarantine! This is the most meaningful episode yet! Amazing, thank you for educating the white people. Excellent execution of the cause.
Your so inspirational talking about this topic and I really applaud that and your videos never fail to entertain keep up the amazing work ❤❤❤❤❤
This was fantastic! Thank you for this video, i personally feel you handled this video and this current global situation very well.
And I love that you pointed out that the fandom always say that the black dancer are the weakest and it's not right! Thank you for speaking the truth!!!
Holly was by FAR the classiest and calmest of the moms. Every time another mom would get in a screaming match with Abby, Abby would just brush it off but once Holly was involved, Abby would lose her mind and act like Holly had stabbed her in the back. EVEN THOUGH Holly was always calm, cool, and collected and rarely (if ever) swore during their arguments.
Abby has so many other problems than racism, like emotionally abusive toward Paige, Brooke, and Chloe (I'm not saying racism is not important, it is very important, and Abby has definitely cross the line there), but realize that Abby is not only racist, but also a narcissist and a control freak. She should be fired along time ago for the way she treated the girls.
The whole world is changing right now and im praying that everything will get better soon❤️
Racism is so horrible.... All those children who are living in fear just because of their skin colour... All those people who are sitting in jail for no reason and all people who died just because they wanted to change their lives and our world.... We can't give up....we are all humans and everybody of us matters❤️Im deeply sorry for all those people and i hope things will get better soon but for all who read this. Our thoughts are dedicated to each and everyone of you ❤️ take care and good luck❤️
What change?
No one should be mad at Christi anymore cause instead of taking the route of standing by what she said and being racist she took it as an education route and is now fighting for what is right.
BTW, Thanks for this video!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I've said, racism is like salt, its in almost everything, even if you can't taste it. It has different names other than salt and sodium, so people look at the ingredients and assume there's none in it if they don't see those two words. AND ITS WORSE FOR SOME PEOPLE THAN OTHERS.
For us, it can get REALLY HARD to remember that not all white/nonblack people are racists toward black people, and that some are good enough to just be normal people. Thanks for being normal.
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I love your analogy ❤️
Why did I just get this notification it came out 1 minute ago youtube you need to catch up
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Definitely worth the wait I’m really excited to watch you should definitely have more subscribers
Let's be real we always new dance moms was racist
Right it takes 7 seasons to have a another black girl
Yes
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Latisha Anderson and only 1 Asian and absolutely no Hispanics, Native Americans, or Islanders
*knew
I love watching Nia dance she’s amazing and I wish they showed her better dances as the way she was portrayed wasn’t fair
Always good content. Every time I watch your video, I have a feeling that you're one of the most rational people on the internet. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. ❤️
Honestly you're the best Dance Moms channel out there in my opinion!! Thank you for this, it was really good #blacklivesmatter
we ALL knew that kamryn was the token black girl in s8 bc they promoted her before the season aired as if she was on the show for at least half- if not all of the season!! and yet she was only there for 2 episodes. AND they didn’t even promote paris at all. that just shows me that lifetime and collins avenue were only trying to hide the implicit racial biases going on
i watch your videos like every week and I love them so much!x