bro I was following traditional Maxroll lightning spear build with great success but the only uber those guys recommended was Harelquin then today I got tyraels+starless and I was looking for a build variant that uses those glad I found this I'll follow ur build hopefully it gets me even more juiced XD
I been following maxrolls builds for a while and their builds are sometimes way different and lack updats..I will check this build out and see the difference..maxrolls recommends staff vs one hand and focus
Is this build better than the one on maxroll? Why don’t they include more Ubers? Also RageGaming released a lighting spear variant, im curious if it’s better than this.
First tried the Mekuna verson from Robs guide but liking this version for myself much better for my console playstyle. Trying to upgrade to the 21 fps as now. Thanks!
I went with this build and it is the best by far. Only problem is I keep confusing it with the Lightning Spear build. Thyey are so close to being the same but Lightning uses different tempers and gear. Thank you for this guide
Whoa! I commented on your last video and now seeing this one makes me think I need to switch over to frozen orb/lightning spear from fireball eventually. Great build, thank you for the video and planner!
@treasonabledoubt7251 I do now have the 3 mythics shako, tyrael, and starless. Was doing T7 ok with just shako with Mekunas build. Didn't try this build without mythics though since I had them. But feel like should be doable with the non-uber version.
Love it! I kept Mekunas paragon board and skills.. but used your gear setup.. I must say.. wow! T8 is fast and 101 even faster now! Thanks! New Follower here! also, my AS even with the elixar is 95.3 with unstable currents active.. it still plays fine? **Edit** I did switch EVERYTHING over... paragon board and skills... Wow! Doing T8 and even a pit 120 is nice! I really dont want to "push".. I just want to get mats and carry people in T7 or 8 if needed! Very nice!!
Pro tip for people who are struggling to hit armor cap with only 1 armor roll on gear without Jugg aspect, get armor rolled on chest and legs as your 3rd stat, Int/max life/ armor, both those armor rolls will be enough to hit armor cap without Jugg aspect
Thank you much appreciated. As you know the average player, including myself.. asked to work with what they are given. The build is very good like you will have said, but if I haven’t got the components I try to make the best of a bad situation if that makes sense utilising what I’ve got. In order to progress further within the game so that I can get the components to build this type of build but it’s going to take time and it’s not easy.. time you get to that level it’s an upheaval struggle to get there to get the right components and it’s a time situation. Thanks again for the video, but they just have to work along with what I’ve got till I can achieve that bye for now. Take care of your friends and family.
it really depends on your cooldown reduction. If you have "0" cooldown on lightning spear its better. If you have medium gear and you cast a lot of frozen orbs, frozen orbs are better
nice build ! on the weapon the chance for frozen orb to cast twice, its working with the amulet aspect or only with the frozen orb that i cast ? thanks
@@GoldfarmingGuide i currently have 0.6 on the cooldown and +7 conjuration mastery on my winterglass. The reason I asked if I should switch is because in the video you said you remove all damage reduction from paragon board. I don’t want to switch then start getting one shot.
Really great and cool build. 👏 Playing similar one. Im really curious why 1-hand and off hand. Isn't 2-hand better due to legendary power? Why ice blades in skill tree? Thank you for the explanation. Good job
I think it is because of attack speed. I am trying to play some sort of this build and i just can't do with Staff things that i do with sword + focus. This build, as i can understand, rely on big amount of conjurations at the same time. To achieve it you must have a lot of attack speed. But staff is to slow and you lose 1 slot for aspect, and, considering that you have 3 unic jewels, you just do not have slot's for attack speed aspects, therefore you can't compensate different between basic attack speed of staff and 1h weapon and achieve attack speed's breakpoint. Plus, more speed you have more conjurations you have, and more conjurations you have than more conjurations you have and more damage and more cooldown reductions, wich means mooore conjurations and so own. It is some sort of chain reaction - in some moment you have so many conjurations that they can live almost without you if they have targets to hit. In my case, with 1h+1h i have about 2.5m max dmg (just get 100 lvl and basic gear) and with staff about 3.5m, but(!) with staff i lose all my mana very fast and i have only 3 or 4 conjurations max, when with 1h+1h i have all screen of conjurations and endless mana. So, (3.5 * 3)
without the 2 with 1hand and focus the main thing is missing is aspects or lack of and which slots the aspects can go on. especially if using recharge, starlight, frozen orbit and there is another one i forget which also helps a ton. also life on hit helps with the recharge of keeping mana up all the time.
@@Cosmos-0777 I agree with you i mained this build and just switched recently to try out the popular meta lighting spear and although it does single target a bit better this build gets the damage going faster. all that you mentioned such as conjurations, cooldown red. mana regen it's all better on this build. This build speed clears and has better AOE with maybe a 10% more time to kill single target.
if you have the option for this one vs your build with lucky hit which do you like more? Also, how do you make it so you can just press down the button and it spams it off cd rather than having to smash keys?
Also this buff is only up with Tyrials when you're at full health. Luckily we have plenty of cooldown with Ice Shield which keeps our barrier up pretty much 100% of the time at full health.
Its really great build! You make fantastic job, thank you! But can you tell why you dont use tibaults will? i see it before in your build? its because of the aspect?
Question and im not sure you talk about this im the previous video but why do you go for doiblr froxen orb instead of double lightning spear on the weapons?
Every frozen orb has ~70% chance of spawning a lightning spear. There is also the mekuna version of this build, hey playing for the lightning spears. I think his variant is a little better late game. But it is not really possible to play that early game it requires crazy amounts of CDR
This will be the best build for 99% of the Players in S6. Since gear will be MUCH more rare, frozen Orb shines because it has very low entry requirements (basically you just need any winterglass)
Could you use Hydra in place of Flame Shield and get burning off them plus more dmg, speed and regen from two more conjs and potentially more Orb procs and then use Flame Shield Emchantment in place of Fire Bolt Enchantment?
@@wmk8345 it will cost you more than half of your damage. So its nothing for lategame. But you can use it for sure its just extremely weak in this setup because you lose all your main damage multipliers (extra frozen/lightning spears and massive crit damage) and you basically get nothing in return but some damage reduction you can easily get from other sources like paragon.
@@x405-n5g he explained in a previous video it helps on boss damage roughly 50/50 orb and lightning spear damage. From my experience, the worse your gear is, the more it helps to pump orb. Once you can start shooting lightning spear twice a second, you become less reliant on manual casting orb and its damage. In mekuna video he doesn’t press orb at all but he has triple mw ga cdr shako and tal ring.
So im a bit confused you have in your skill tree something that is giving you ranks to defensive skills but then in the gear area you have nothing thats gives that affix. i love the build im just trying to figure out if im missing something or if im legit not supposed to have flame shield
Is it harder to masterwork crit greater affixes? Because im approaching 700mil gold invested in resetting and masterworking my gloves to hit those 2 attackspeed procs. Still didnt get it and now im out of materials... So ye didnt do the math, but in my opinion those are too many failed attempts.
so many lightning spear ones, the one on maxroll shifts more towards not frozen orb, its in the build but i don't know what the main difference here between the two. both blast everyhthing so fast. big difference is 2hander vs 1h/offhand. i got a fist of fate with GA on the lucky hit lol 77.7%!
I only have skies as mythic atm and very good gear (but definitely not perfect). I do pit 101 in 1,5 min tier 7 easily (didnt try 8) and tormented bosses in 10 seconds. So Ill choose Skies because it basically is always a good choice. But understandable if you choose shaco aswell. Wouldnt pick Tyr first tho.
How do you get unlimited mana? in the training ground that you get it for some reason but when dong other thing i do not get unlimited mana for some reason
I think I’m gonna swap to this version too. Using a 2h just feels bad, and I feel like my boss damage is bad without the investment into frozen orb damage.
@@GoldfarmingGuide I think that makes sense. The one hand version is working way better for me. Now I I just need a second set of weapons that I can temper with frozen orb Casts.
Conjuration mastery. Also get mana per second rolls on your chest/helmet, very important! You always start with casting unstable currents -> lightning spear -> ice armor -> frozen orbs. As soon as stacks rise you get infitie mana.
bro I was following traditional Maxroll lightning spear build with great success but the only uber those guys recommended was Harelquin then today I got tyraels+starless and I was looking for a build variant that uses those glad I found this I'll follow ur build hopefully it gets me even more juiced XD
It’s insane. I ripped through a tier 101 in a couple minutes like nothing. I too have the harlequin Tyrael and starless.
I been following maxrolls builds for a while and their builds are sometimes way different and lack updats..I will check this build out and see the difference..maxrolls recommends staff vs one hand and focus
Is this build better than the one on maxroll? Why don’t they include more Ubers? Also RageGaming released a lighting spear variant, im curious if it’s better than this.
@@nosleepforme2242 This build better i think.
I just have Tyraels and I absolutely destroy. I use maxroll as a benchmark but I think starless will probably be better than tals ammy.
one thing i would like to see from detailed guides like this is a dedicated section for How to Play/Rotation.
First tried the Mekuna verson from Robs guide but liking this version for myself much better for my console playstyle. Trying to upgrade to the 21 fps as now. Thanks!
Using this build. Its excelent, Just cleared pit 120 and easily farming Infernal hordes.
I was making a build like this by myself, but i was hitting a wall. This vid brings me to the next lvl ty men.
I went with this build and it is the best by far. Only problem is I keep confusing it with the Lightning Spear build. Thyey are so close to being the same but Lightning uses different tempers and gear. Thank you for this guide
Thanks for the awesome build great improvment
I finally got tyrael and starless to drop, and now I can craft my shako! Looking forward to trying this version.
All I’m missing is T.Might, this build absolutely melts everything! As always great build. This season is very promising for our class.
Whoa! I commented on your last video and now seeing this one makes me think I need to switch over to frozen orb/lightning spear from fireball eventually. Great build, thank you for the video and planner!
Was loving fireball but started capping out on damage. Tried this build T7 horde now so easy. Not going back.
@@skim74skim Do you already have mythics? I only have Tyrael's so far so I don't know if I'll be able to rip T7 horde yet.
@treasonabledoubt7251 I do now have the 3 mythics shako, tyrael, and starless. Was doing T7 ok with just shako with Mekunas build. Didn't try this build without mythics though since I had them. But feel like should be doable with the non-uber version.
Love it! I kept Mekunas paragon board and skills.. but used your gear setup.. I must say.. wow! T8 is fast and 101 even faster now! Thanks! New Follower here! also, my AS even with the elixar is 95.3 with unstable currents active.. it still plays fine? **Edit** I did switch EVERYTHING over... paragon board and skills... Wow! Doing T8 and even a pit 120 is nice! I really dont want to "push".. I just want to get mats and carry people in T7 or 8 if needed! Very nice!!
Pro tip for people who are struggling to hit armor cap with only 1 armor roll on gear without Jugg aspect, get armor rolled on chest and legs as your 3rd stat, Int/max life/ armor, both those armor rolls will be enough to hit armor cap without Jugg aspect
How would you ever struggle with armor cap if you have a shako? This video is specifically made for the players with ubers, lol.
Thank you much appreciated. As you know the average player, including myself.. asked to work with what they are given. The build is very good like you will have said, but if I haven’t got the components I try to make the best of a bad situation if that makes sense utilising what I’ve got. In order to progress further within the game so that I can get the components to build this type of build but it’s going to take time and it’s not easy.. time you get to that level it’s an upheaval struggle to get there to get the right components and it’s a time situation. Thanks again for the video, but they just have to work along with what I’ve got till I can achieve that bye for now. Take care of your friends and family.
this is an uber version bro :D just jeck the basic version its dirt cheap to make
I swappped to this from standard (though go my weps aren’t great) and now pretty sure I could destroy t8 will try later having starless is so nice
Do you find Tyrael's to be that much better than a legendary chest with life, int, and snowveiled?
trillion times better
I’ve been running similar but instead of chance to cast orbs I’ve been using chance to cast lightning spear? Have you tried or any thoughts?
it really depends on your cooldown reduction. If you have "0" cooldown on lightning spear its better. If you have medium gear and you cast a lot of frozen orbs, frozen orbs are better
nice build ! on the weapon the chance for frozen orb to cast twice, its working with the amulet aspect or only with the frozen orb that i cast ? thanks
this works with every frozen orb also the ones from lucky hit
If I have shako and starless should I switch to this version or wait until I get the chest piece?
the chest is not required. The breakpoints is more about your cooldown reduction and how good your winterglass is.
@@GoldfarmingGuide i currently have 0.6 on the cooldown and +7 conjuration mastery on my winterglass. The reason I asked if I should switch is because in the video you said you remove all damage reduction from paragon board. I don’t want to switch then start getting one shot.
Really great and cool build. 👏
Playing similar one. Im really curious why 1-hand and off hand. Isn't 2-hand better due to legendary power? Why ice blades in skill tree? Thank you for the explanation. Good job
I think it is because of attack speed. I am trying to play some sort of this build and i just can't do with Staff things that i do with sword + focus. This build, as i can understand, rely on big amount of conjurations at the same time. To achieve it you must have a lot of attack speed. But staff is to slow and you lose 1 slot for aspect, and, considering that you have 3 unic jewels, you just do not have slot's for attack speed aspects, therefore you can't compensate different between basic attack speed of staff and 1h weapon and achieve attack speed's breakpoint. Plus, more speed you have more conjurations you have, and more conjurations you have than more conjurations you have and more damage and more cooldown reductions, wich means mooore conjurations and so own. It is some sort of chain reaction - in some moment you have so many conjurations that they can live almost without you if they have targets to hit. In my case, with 1h+1h i have about 2.5m max dmg (just get 100 lvl and basic gear) and with staff about 3.5m, but(!) with staff i lose all my mana very fast and i have only 3 or 4 conjurations max, when with 1h+1h i have all screen of conjurations and endless mana. So, (3.5 * 3)
@@Cosmos-0777 Thx man. It makes a sense
I think the staff version mekuna is playing is better for very lategame. But it requires much better gear to come online
without the 2 with 1hand and focus the main thing is missing is aspects or lack of and which slots the aspects can go on. especially if using recharge, starlight, frozen orbit and there is another one i forget which also helps a ton. also life on hit helps with the recharge of keeping mana up all the time.
@@Cosmos-0777 I agree with you i mained this build and just switched recently to try out the popular meta lighting spear and although it does single target a bit better this build gets the damage going faster. all that you mentioned such as conjurations, cooldown red. mana regen it's all better on this build. This build speed clears and has better AOE with maybe a 10% more time to kill single target.
if you have the option for this one vs your build with lucky hit which do you like more? Also, how do you make it so you can just press down the button and it spams it off cd rather than having to smash keys?
there is a setting in accessibility config which is "Skill Toggle Behavior" which has to be "Hold All" - but that should be the default option
Hey, Im curious with we not play Damage on orb , weapon, max life is really important?
the 20% damage you can get is very minimal damage increase (less than 1%) while max life is a decent survivability buff
how do u maintain your artillery shrine buff for that long? is that some kind of potion?
thats tyraels might :D
Also this buff is only up with Tyrials when you're at full health. Luckily we have plenty of cooldown with Ice Shield which keeps our barrier up pretty much 100% of the time at full health.
Fellow Frozen Orb sorc, how do you guys maintain mana like that after using your skills?
MANA FAQ: ua-cam.com/video/tA9zN6FYrFs/v-deo.html
hi , great video man , can i ask
i saw u apply skills on ice blade , but didnt put on skill bar or enchament,
fractured winterglass
Hey - for tal Rasha ring, would you use a 40% damage bonus ring if it had greater affix cdr? Or use a normal affix cdr ring with 80 damage bonus ?
normal affix
@@GoldfarmingGuideahh okay. I was so excited to see that GA drop but back to farming I go haha.
Nice build. I see you still not have any Gem on Tal Ras ring. Is this right?
gems do not really matter. your maxed on armor and resistance anyway at that point
Its really great build! You make fantastic job, thank you! But can you tell why you dont use tibaults will? i see it before in your build? its because of the aspect?
yeah I want the aspect.
Question and im not sure you talk about this im the previous video but why do you go for doiblr froxen orb instead of double lightning spear on the weapons?
Every frozen orb has ~70% chance of spawning a lightning spear. There is also the mekuna version of this build, hey playing for the lightning spears.
I think his variant is a little better late game. But it is not really possible to play that early game it requires crazy amounts of CDR
@@GoldfarmingGuide Thank you
Whats the limit of each conjuration? I think 2 for hydra, 2 for ice blades, and unlimited for lightning spears?
2 hydra, 3 ice blades unlimited spears
charged bolts viable you think?
hm dont think so :/
104.9 attack speed is based on a 1.1 weapon or a 1.2? I think swords are 1.1 as well. Only daggers and wands are 1.2
1.2
mekuna build or thist one is better ?
it felt like mekunas was stronger and has a slower gameplay which is nice, you dont need to spam FO all the time.
Will this be decent for season 6?
This will be the best build for 99% of the Players in S6. Since gear will be MUCH more rare, frozen Orb shines because it has very low entry requirements (basically you just need any winterglass)
With the nerf coming to lightning spear will this still be a great build?@GoldfarmingGuide
@@stulbert76 nope will be trash
The lightning spears do get 15% crit so you only need to be at 85%cc in the sheet, right?
for Lightning spear yes, but I also scale frozen orb.
Could you use Hydra in place of Flame Shield and get burning off them plus more dmg, speed and regen from two more conjs and potentially more Orb procs and then use Flame Shield Emchantment in place of Fire Bolt Enchantment?
nope, flame shield is important to self cast in infernal hordes and pit bosses etc. Enchant wont safe you from wone shot.
@@GoldfarmingGuide Can Doombringer be used instead of the regular weapon?
@@wmk8345 it will cost you more than half of your damage. So its nothing for lategame. But you can use it for sure its just extremely weak in this setup because you lose all your main damage multipliers (extra frozen/lightning spears and massive crit damage) and you basically get nothing in return but some damage reduction you can easily get from other sources like paragon.
Why taking ice blades in the skill tree ?
thanks!
Why are you investing that many points into frozen orb? Ate you doing it for more orb damage?
@@x405-n5g he explained in a previous video it helps on boss damage roughly 50/50 orb and lightning spear damage. From my experience, the worse your gear is, the more it helps to pump orb. Once you can start shooting lightning spear twice a second, you become less reliant on manual casting orb and its damage. In mekuna video he doesn’t press orb at all but he has triple mw ga cdr shako and tal ring.
Well its a frozen orb build. If you looking for the lightning spear build, this is not it.
So when should we change the pants to tibaults will?
I'm not playing it since I dont need the damage.
How do you get crackling energy?
Does this build work for Ubers?
o_O did you check the video? I literally destroy them in the first 10 seconds of the video :D
So im a bit confused you have in your skill tree something that is giving you ranks to defensive skills but then in the gear area you have nothing thats gives that affix. i love the build im just trying to figure out if im missing something or if im legit not supposed to have flame shield
harlequin…
@@GoldfarmingGuide wow I feel dumb
Gibt es den Guide zufällig irgendwo auch auf deutsch?
nope
Why don’t you have your damage numbers on? Be nice to see them to compare
they are too distracting
When you mention your cool down isn't as good as it could be, is there a breakpoint?
not really
He doesn't have greater affix rolls on his talrasha or shako I imagine that's what he meant by as good as it could be
I dont have the unique amulet yet, can I still play this build?
nope
Is it harder to masterwork crit greater affixes? Because im approaching 700mil gold invested in resetting and masterworking my gloves to hit those 2 attackspeed procs. Still didnt get it and now im out of materials... So ye didnt do the math, but in my opinion those are too many failed attempts.
RNG is just a stupid system to begin with.
statistically you need 25x The first rank + 5x the 2nd rank which is 150m gold plus mats.
How does masterworking change if I got GA on conjuration mastery (fractured winterglass)
doesnt change at all
so many lightning spear ones, the one on maxroll shifts more towards not frozen orb, its in the build but i don't know what the main difference here between the two. both blast everyhthing so fast.
big difference is 2hander vs 1h/offhand.
i got a fist of fate with GA on the lucky hit lol 77.7%!
I think the staff version mekuna is playing is better for very lategame. But it requires much better gear to come online
I have almost everything the same but i cant get pass pit 81 dunno why
Why do u even need to get pass pit 81? Doing pit 80 is already an achievement. What are you looking for at higher pit?
@@jackofa11traits29 nothing i just wanted to reach 101 and i did it now so its ok the build is finished
@@Giuliano-ju9vh I am bad at games. I just reached nm 100 and Infernal Hord T4. And I am already happy
I don't understand why the "Flamefeeder" glyph is used?
it gives 10% damage
@@GoldfarmingGuide But... "to enemies who are burning"...
@@Xonathan100 thats why we play firebolt enchant 😅
What would be the best first uber item to get i have 4 sparks. Anyone know what will be the best? having mana issues so maybe skies?
I only have skies as mythic atm and very good gear (but definitely not perfect). I do pit 101 in 1,5 min tier 7 easily (didnt try 8) and tormented bosses in 10 seconds. So Ill choose Skies because it basically is always a good choice. But understandable if you choose shaco aswell. Wouldnt pick Tyr first tho.
@@Maginator1 yeah it's such a hard decision. Know in my luck il craft a shako first then get another shako from the next uber boss :/
If you struggle with mana, get starless skies, If you are good on mana get shako
can i use with it a wand with ga vul dmg because i have it 😊
sure you can.
@@GoldfarmingGuide thx sir.
How do you get unlimited mana? in the training ground that you get it for some reason but when dong other thing i do not get unlimited mana for some reason
ua-cam.com/video/tA9zN6FYrFs/v-deo.html -> New mana guide :D
@@GoldfarmingGuide thanks, that is really helpful
I was following mekunas which is very different. This version is very different which seems very different and I like it
I think I’m gonna swap to this version too. Using a 2h just feels bad, and I feel like my boss damage is bad without the investment into frozen orb damage.
I think the staff version mekuna is playing is better for very lategame. But it requires much better gear to come online
@@GoldfarmingGuide I think that makes sense. The one hand version is working way better for me. Now I I just need a second set of weapons that I can temper with frozen orb Casts.
Ok can someone give me some insite on how to sustain the constant frozen orb casting. i have mana per second on gear but still cant keep up.
you just need ring of starless skyes)
@@ВячеславТращенко and if you dont have that yet as i am a solo player cant do many duriels
@@sgtmadman9576 Get a Tibaults Will and use the aspect that makes Ice Armor unstoppable. You refill your mana by Teleport or Ice Armor
Conjuration mastery. Also get mana per second rolls on your chest/helmet, very important! You always start with casting unstable currents -> lightning spear -> ice armor -> frozen orbs. As soon as stacks rise you get infitie mana.
can also get life on hit and recharge aspect, that sustains mana really well
Then why are you talking at all 😂😂
If i can only craft one uber atm but dont have any yet, what do you recommend i craft first?
probably the shako
@GoldfarmingGuide yeah I got shako now lol still farming for tyraels and starless skies. Damn game keeps giving me andariels and doombringer haha