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I love the look of splines. One thing I’ll say is that everyone says how weak miter joints are but Salamone has that video where he attacks his miters with a sledgehammer and throws the box around and they were actually surprisingly strong even unreinforced.
This is very helpful. I've made many boxes with splines, but have only done straight splines. I never thought to angle them or really think outside of the standard. You have opened my mind up to that here!
Miter joints are actually one of the stronger joints. I've seen quite a few tests now showing them to be one of the strongest in compression. Bourbon Moth just did a compression test where he tried to fold the joint and splined miter was the strongest in that application. He compared box joints, dowel pins, dovetails, dominos, pocket screws, butt joints, miter joints, and splined miter joints. A splined miter on some little 1x4s held 260-270lbs. Box joint held 220lbs and a simple miter held 210. Those were the top 3. I'm sure if you flipped the joints around and and put them into tension instead of compression we would see different results. Depending on the application, miter joints can be one of the strongest joints.
I made a spline jig a while back that slides on my fence. I made a tenoning jig on the other side of the spline jig so its 2 in 1 without having to unscrew anything. Works great! Btw, anyone thinking about his dovetail jig, it's the real deal. Love that thing! ❤
We love the jig. It was so easy to make, even for a beginner like us. Your stop block is great. We made a cross cut and miter sled with your stop block.
Awesome job, great explaining how it was done, I lioke videos like yours that do a step and explain the step, then move to the next and explain and do, etc.....got to make one and try these now, they look so easy to make now... love the double dovetail spline.....
I really like the way your 45° and dovetail spines look. I've never made a decorative box but after watching this I think I'm going to give it a try. I want/need to make some sealed urns.
@@katzmosestoolsThanks but it happened a long time ago. I just can't stand the urns we got at the time. Now they just remind me of cheap trophies. I want something with some warmth (wood) and class (nice joinery).
Hey, Jonathan, one trick I use to ensure everything lines up, especially with key parts such as those two 45 degree blocks, is to lay down my square to help register the blocks while glueing them into place. Of course, the trick is not to glue down your square at the same time! You can get around that by waxing your square beforehand. Great tips you've given us here; keep up the informative videos!
Great ideas there Jonathan. I especially liked the angled splines. Cremona did some where there was a long table saw blade width spline and two, shorter dovetail saw widths splines on each side. That was cool too and shows what imaginative people can come up with.
Wow Jonathan what can I say other than WOW this is the best and simplest tutorial-audio-visual I have found on various spline ideas and demos of them being made. Like everything you do you make it so simple and your tutorial is addictive in that now I want to make a box just so I can play with splines. Now I am gonna look more closely at your stop fence for the table saw and probably purchase one of those before the week is out. Rgds Harleymike/chicago
Dude I love that jig so simple and low cost I've seen them online before but they want hundreds of dollars for them thanks I'm going home today and making one of these
Hullo young man. As winter is starting to come in over here and on rainy cold day's what better than using your method's and variations on all off your joint's of the week on some special jewellery box's combined with a jig from another excellent woodworker (izzy) and taking them to some craft fair's as well as Christmas gift's. Thank you BIG GUY for sharing your skill's with us all.
Thanks again, Jonathan. This is the second time that I've watched this video. I like the simplicity of the angled splines. Possibly some mechanical advantage against warpage, too. Will run some up tomorrow or Wednesday for a pair of light boxes for our college theatre. They've got that Greek theatre mask laughing/crying motif if you use your imagination. (Ok, it's cryptic...)
Jonathan you are intelligent, i learnt some thing very beautiful and yet you taught it in such an easy way, unbelievable.... thanks a lot and i have subscribed, will follow you Sir.
Thought on repeatability of the inlaid dovetail key… 1 - cut out larger dovetail on scrap piece. 2 - cut larger dove tail spline and test fit into dovetail cut in scrap piece. 3 - set up jig to cut large dove tail (clamp board on table that is touching the fence as reference point) 4 - glue large dove tail. 5 - install smaller dovetail bit and move fence back over to the clamped reference board (if it hasn’t moved it should the smaller bit lines up with the larger bit on centerline). If someone already posted this I apologize. I’ve been watching a lot of metal machining videos and they use reference points and ad-hoc stops a lot for repeatability. Also lining up something like this reeks havoc on my anxiety. Love this stuff man!
When you put the 1st dovetail spline in I stopped the video. Then I reasoned with myself as to how would I go about 'inlaying' that joint. It came to me kind of suddenly that I'd have to cut a smaller dovetail in the big one and think inversely about the cuts. Then, I resumed your video AND you did exactly that, and very well. Thanks. A good lesson.
Thanks Jonathan, great video again/still. Received my dovetail jig and stop block very promptly all the way down here in Australia. Unfortunately I noticed they were upside down and I realised I must have received the northern hemisphere version by mistake! Thanks mate and take care.
Howdy Jonathan, Your info on the spline jig is exactly what I was looking for. Project coming up will make major use of them. Quick question for you. What table saw and fence setup do you use? I need to change mine out and admired yours. Thanks again.
Totally different approaches though (and content). I like both but I've built two of Marc's designs so far. If you're not a Guild member, the content and detail is absolutely insane.
Those look pretty cool, and the jig is great, I've seen a jig for the router that you mount over the work piece but I can't find it, I don't know if you can make a video about it
I have used both the straight spline and the dovetail spline on boxes. Getting the dovetail key tuned in has always been a bear for me. Usually takes three or four tries to get it right. Always the temptation to bump the fence over one more time, and then it is too loose. I have seen the dowel spline also and really like the look, but have not invested in the jig to drill the holes. I will try the angled spline on the next project. Like that look also.
Would these splines work on 1x6 lumber? I'm wanting to try some type of joinery to make a outdoor hammock container for somebody that found the plans on Pentrist. New to woodworking, and wanting to get some real time in with this stuff. I have just about all the stuff to do most of it. What amperage is your orbital sander? Will be getting one soon.
So you say these are for a box, but if i was making a display case/shadow box to hang on a wall would these support the weight, without putting in any screws? I was going to make a M&T joint and put a pin through the T to prevent racking.
I like making small boxes and miters are my joint of choice because, as you mention, they hide all the end grain. The problem is i dont have a table saw or a router. What i have is a big bandsaw. Do you have any ideas how to set up a bandsaw to cut splines in miters? Be very curious to hear any solutions you might have.
I really do love your style! This video came out the right time since I’m currently building a box. Keep going! When do you sell the saws with your dovetail jig in your shop?
Hey buddy. wood did they all look sweet but that inlayed one got my fingures tingling man. makes me wanna go have a try at doing it myself. keep an eye out on my channle buddy because il credit you for the original idea
Get the K-M Magnetic Dovetail Jig, Shirts and K-M Stop Block here: goo.gl/XzEmMa
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Thank you for the ideas. Is there a plan for the spline jig? Curious about size of box to use the jig.
get the cam clamp template too! Thank Jonathan, I'm building some clamps this weekend.
I love the look of splines. One thing I’ll say is that everyone says how weak miter joints are but Salamone has that video where he attacks his miters with a sledgehammer and throws the box around and they were actually surprisingly strong even unreinforced.
Bourbon moth just did a video on different joint stregnths and a miter came in third. Miter with spline came in first.
Enjoy watching your videos. Just watched no zero days your story is incredible!
That double inlay dovetail spline is freaking rad 🤟
Dude, that inlaid one came out looking wicked sweet.
I second that!
Anytime I hear "detachable" A lovely song from the 90's fills my head
Hahahaha ditto
King Missile!
Thanks!
This is very helpful. I've made many boxes with splines, but have only done straight splines. I never thought to angle them or really think outside of the standard. You have opened my mind up to that here!
Yeah I love changing the status quo
Miter joints are actually one of the stronger joints. I've seen quite a few tests now showing them to be one of the strongest in compression. Bourbon Moth just did a compression test where he tried to fold the joint and splined miter was the strongest in that application. He compared box joints, dowel pins, dovetails, dominos, pocket screws, butt joints, miter joints, and splined miter joints. A splined miter on some little 1x4s held 260-270lbs. Box joint held 220lbs and a simple miter held 210. Those were the top 3. I'm sure if you flipped the joints around and and put them into tension instead of compression we would see different results. Depending on the application, miter joints can be one of the strongest joints.
They are strong at first but they are very susceptible to wood movement throughout the seasons
Very cool bunch of mitered splines.
I made a spline jig a while back that slides on my fence. I made a tenoning jig on the other side of the spline jig so its 2 in 1 without having to unscrew anything. Works great!
Btw, anyone thinking about his dovetail jig, it's the real deal. Love that thing! ❤
Great idea and thank you for your business
We love the jig. It was so easy to make, even for a beginner like us. Your stop block is great. We made a cross cut and miter sled with your stop block.
Awesome job, great explaining how it was done, I lioke videos like yours that do a step and explain the step, then move to the next and explain and do, etc.....got to make one and try these now, they look so easy to make now... love the double dovetail spline.....
Great video. Every video I watch, I take something small out of it. I feel like I’m getting smarter with every video.. Thank you.
- Thanx a million. Love watching "real artisans" work & create. Thanx 4 sharing.
I've come to love your way of teaching, just the right amount of detail. You do an excellent job, very professional.
Thanks bud that means a lot
@@katzmosestools anytime brother
Very creative way, thanks for sharing this video with us.
Those inlays are insane great video
Great video, love the tips! Seems like you could make the inlaid key as a solid pre assembled piece then size/cut sections as needed.
I really like the way your 45° and dovetail spines look. I've never made a decorative box but after watching this I think I'm going to give it a try. I want/need to make some sealed urns.
Plural urns?! Damn sorry for your loss bud
@@katzmosestoolsThanks but it happened a long time ago. I just can't stand the urns we got at the time. Now they just remind me of cheap trophies. I want something with some warmth (wood) and class (nice joinery).
Hey, Jonathan, one trick I use to ensure everything lines up, especially with key parts such as those two 45 degree blocks, is to lay down my square to help register the blocks while glueing them into place. Of course, the trick is not to glue down your square at the same time! You can get around that by waxing your square beforehand.
Great tips you've given us here; keep up the informative videos!
Great tip bud
I followed your directions and I made one today this is something I've been wanting to do for quite some time thank you for sharing.
So enjoy your work and the channel
Great video - exactly what I needed, very succinct, high-quality production. Keep it up.
Thank you for the excellent and detailed information.
Another very interesting video mate! This is why I love your channel so much!
Great ideas there Jonathan. I especially liked the angled splines. Cremona did some where there was a long table saw blade width spline and two, shorter dovetail saw widths splines on each side. That was cool too and shows what imaginative people can come up with.
Awesome video!
Thank you very much great job explaining everything
nice mate - your work and sharing of knowledge is going to enable hobby'ests (you know what i mean) to take their work to a different level
I learn more from your videos than anyone else. Please do a finishing video, something for table tops preferred, as this is my weakest area. :)
Wow Jonathan what can I say other than WOW this is the best and simplest tutorial-audio-visual I have found on various spline ideas and demos of them being made. Like everything you do you make it so simple and your tutorial is addictive in that now I want to make a box just so I can play with splines. Now I am gonna look more closely at your stop fence for the table saw and probably purchase one of those before the week is out.
Rgds
Harleymike/chicago
Thank you so much!
Dude I love that jig so simple and low cost I've seen them online before but they want hundreds of dollars for them thanks I'm going home today and making one of these
Hullo young man. As winter is starting to come in over here and on rainy cold day's what better than using your method's and variations on all off your joint's of the week on some special jewellery box's combined with a jig from another excellent woodworker (izzy) and taking them to some craft fair's as well as Christmas gift's. Thank you BIG GUY for sharing your skill's with us all.
Very informative video. Thanks
Thanks again, Jonathan. This is the second time that I've watched this video. I like the simplicity of the angled splines. Possibly some mechanical advantage against warpage, too. Will run some up tomorrow or Wednesday for a pair of light boxes for our college theatre. They've got that Greek theatre mask laughing/crying motif if you use your imagination. (Ok, it's cryptic...)
Jonathan you are intelligent, i learnt some thing very beautiful and yet you taught it in such an easy way, unbelievable.... thanks a lot and i have subscribed, will follow you Sir.
Welcome my friend!
@@katzmosestools thanks will follow
Thought on repeatability of the inlaid dovetail key… 1 - cut out larger dovetail on scrap piece. 2 - cut larger dove tail spline and test fit into dovetail cut in scrap piece. 3 - set up jig to cut large dove tail (clamp board on table that is touching the fence as reference point) 4 - glue large dove tail. 5 - install smaller dovetail bit and move fence back over to the clamped reference board (if it hasn’t moved it should the smaller bit lines up with the larger bit on centerline).
If someone already posted this I apologize. I’ve been watching a lot of metal machining videos and they use reference points and ad-hoc stops a lot for repeatability. Also lining up something like this reeks havoc on my anxiety.
Love this stuff man!
When you put the 1st dovetail spline in I stopped the video. Then I reasoned with myself as to how would I go about 'inlaying' that joint. It came to me kind of suddenly that I'd have to cut a smaller dovetail in the big one and think inversely about the cuts. Then, I resumed your video AND you did exactly that, and very well. Thanks. A good lesson.
never seen inlaid dovetail key. well done! could do some really cool contrasting woods
I've always been impressed with your expertise with different ginery joinery... Keep exploring new ways... By the way how's your thumb doing?
Thanks Jonathan, great video again/still. Received my dovetail jig and stop block very promptly all the way down here in Australia. Unfortunately I noticed they were upside down and I realised I must have received the northern hemisphere version by mistake! Thanks mate and take care.
Hahahahaha
Howdy Jonathan,
Your info on the spline jig is exactly what I was looking for. Project coming up will make major use of them. Quick question for you. What table saw and fence setup do you use? I need to change mine out and admired yours. Thanks again.
Katz, thank you for a very nice tutorial 😊👌
Love that double butterfly key!
This is rapidly becoming my favorite woodworking channel! (sorry Spagnuolo...)
Totally different approaches though (and content). I like both but I've built two of Marc's designs so far. If you're not a Guild member, the content and detail is absolutely insane.
@@Meyerwoodworks Once my skills improve (still a newbie) I plan on purchasing a Guild a project. You're right, two totally different approaches.
Thank you my friend!
Agreed
Those look pretty cool, and the jig is great, I've seen a jig for the router that you mount over the work piece but I can't find it, I don't know if you can make a video about it
Jonathan ~ Thanks for a GREAT Lesson! ~ Bill
Nice one, 1:13 What kinds of Stop block are you using there.... 🤘
#segway
Lol
Only issue with the Freud blade, the flat bottom teeth are shorter than the beveled teeth... Still a great blade for the tool box...
Thanks for sharing your knowledge another great video
Love it! Been meaning to make a spline jig for a while. Thanks for sharing your creativity.
thanks for the video. you gave me some really great ideas for Christmas gifts this year.
thank you Katz neat stuff
GOOD JOB
Nice idea, love the simplicity of the jig. Did you have to do anything (i can’t see in the video) avoid tear-out? Or did you just sand fill after?
Cool idea with the dovetails:)
I have used both the straight spline and the dovetail spline on boxes. Getting the dovetail key tuned in has always been a bear for me. Usually takes three or four tries to get it right. Always the temptation to bump the fence over one more time, and then it is too loose. I have seen the dowel spline also and really like the look, but have not invested in the jig to drill the holes. I will try the angled spline on the next project. Like that look also.
Yeah it was a tricky SOB
That's some pretty cool stuff. Thanks for sharing it.
One of my favorite videos from you. Definitely trying these
very nice thanks for the tip JKM
Nice!
Love that jig, super simple!
Great tutorial!!
Nice!!
Would these splines work on 1x6 lumber? I'm wanting to try some type of joinery to make a outdoor hammock container for somebody that found the plans on Pentrist. New to woodworking, and wanting to get some real time in with this stuff. I have just about all the stuff to do most of it. What amperage is your orbital sander? Will be getting one soon.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you very much!
Subscriber, Great variety Jonathan!! Thank you hope mine turn out as good looking as yours.
great ideas!
Great video! Who's your camera person (if you have one), they do great work!
Marc is amazing!
So you say these are for a box, but if i was making a display case/shadow box to hang on a wall would these support the weight, without putting in any screws? I was going to make a M&T joint and put a pin through the T to prevent racking.
Absolutely
Awesome job, thank you!!!
I like making small boxes and miters are my joint of choice because, as you mention, they hide all the end grain.
The problem is i dont have a table saw or a router. What i have is a big bandsaw.
Do you have any ideas how to set up a bandsaw to cut splines in miters? Be very curious to hear any solutions you might have.
The cut from a bandsaw is rough so it's going to be tough to get good splines without some refinement.
You could always use a handsaw and veneer as splines, works quite well and adds more strenght than you might think.
@@jonikuhn2441 Interesting. I'd thought about it but dismissed it because i figured it wouldn't add any strength. Have you tried this yourself?
@@joshwalker5605 yes, on some boxes and picture frames, so far they all held up well.
Joni Kuhn well i guess i’ll give it a shot, thanks!
Amazing, thank you.
Jonathan... do you have access to Robertson head screws ?
Yes. Doesn't everyone?
Slick!
Bravo .-
Despite my best efforts, I keep learning stuff. Thanks much. Thumbs up to crush a troll.
Excellent review. Glad I watched it since I'm about to cut some splines for a shadow box. BUT, lose the music, it's distracting, loud, and unpleasant.
I really do love your style! This video came out the right time since I’m currently building a box. Keep going!
When do you sell the saws with your dovetail jig in your shop?
Should be in about a month
Hey buddy. wood did they all look sweet but that inlayed one got my fingures tingling man. makes me wanna go have a try at doing it myself. keep an eye out on my channle buddy because il credit you for the original idea
So just to be fair I haven’t read any of the comments, but am I watching Jimmy Kimmel?
Jimmy Kimmel before he became a TV GOD!
💖💯😎👍👍
😃👍🏻👊🏻
Jimmy Kimmel does woodworking?