@@ingridfong-daley5899 I worked at a facility in Western Kentucky that hired a black guy, some of the employees started leaving nooses hanging around. This happened until the guy quit, this was also only 10 years ago...
it's not like they are discriminating. They just want to sell black dolls. Honestly, people make too much of a big deal out of dumb shit like this and then ignore systematic racism.
@@kristianbasile7141 Normalizing racist things( like racist products and words) also contribute to systematic racism, not saying they are all at the same level, but you can't just pretend they are not problematic.
@@Mollygan so it's ok to make white dolls but not black ones? I don't get it. I think there ist a lot wrong with what ist called racist these days, just being offended is Not automatically racist. The most racist people by todays standards i know are not white or caucasian or whatever is ok to call a skin color in this world today.
"It's always been that way, so why change it?" is an inherently broken argument. No tradition was "always that way" because there was a time _before_ that tradition, meaning the very implementation of tradition is a change from what was "always that way" before. What these people are really saying is "Well _I'm_ comfortable with it this way, why can't everyone else just do things _my_ way?", ignoring that for their way to take root in the first place, someone else's way was replaced.
Although I get it, just like here in the Netherlands, since this year we’ve officially gotten rid of the “black pete” thing and made him colorless or rainbowcolors or just with spots ( because he came through a chimney). The worries are now that it’ll get too PC and people start chasing after all our traditions and things that make us fundamentally Dutch. We love our culture
@@kindbrute4640 Wrong. Both women's right to vote and the name of the cheese were more than open for change and the difference in importance between them is no reason to ignore either. I would tell you to take your own advice, but something tells me that would just be too much change for you.
I think what some of the commenters are missing is that the COLOR of the doll isn't offensive, it's the CARICATURE of the doll that is offensive. We should have black dolls but not as diminutive caricatures of what white people think of them. This is not PC, it's humanity and the golden rule.
But: Is every "CARICATURE" automatically racist? Every person has genes of a certain origin, may be dominantly black, asian, caucasian,... what ever. That means that every caricature of a real person is of an ethnic group as well. Does that make every caricature automatically racist? Would a caricatury white doll also be automatically racist? Oncle Ben's is racist? Really? (Here in europe you still get it everywhere) I really don't understand it. If he would be in chains - yes that would be racist. But just an older black guy in a white collar shirt and a pleased smile...? It's just a guy to me. Could be Uncle Chang's or Uncle Jim's as well. Here in europe we had no black slaves. Nobody thinks of slaves when he sees a black person. I am sure there is a massive trauma within the US society caused by its past. But other parts of the world had a different past, therefore don't have these problems today and from their perspective these political correctness things in the US often look excessive - at least inappropriate to transfer them to other countries. Might be the right thing for the US. But that does not mean that such a black doll sparks even the slightest bit of racism in Africa, Asia, Europa or even Australia.
It's just a doll, sure it's comically enhancing certain features as a way to portray a certain race, but let's face it certain races have certain features that make it obvious where they're from, we can't be bullshitting ourselves by saying we're completely colorblind and saying all people are the same, I don't get offended by people portraying a Mexican as a brown, short, black hair having, sombrero wearing, taco eating person, mainly because I know and am related to a lot of Mexicans with most of those traits
olafspetzki bruh wtf you mean their was no black slaves in Europe are you joking.... plus how you see somthing dont mean you are correct about your assessment, like for example if something was originally created with the intent of being racist...you can’t just say it dont looks racist to me and think thats a valid argument. Personally I dont like the doll becasue I know what it stands for (do you think a doll like that created in thoes times was becasue they liked black people? )Caricature made in a context where the individual who mad it where racist, ofc its racist dude... they are inspired from a time of hate and to be enjoyed by the expense of black people For the record tho different races dont wxist in the human species
Scott Whatever I get your point, thats if you take it at face value. let me ask a question tho, do you think the person that created that doll, did it with out any ill intent towards darker shades individuals? Its not a doll made it this time and age, its almost guaranteed imo that the creators did it with more hate in mind then doing a “innocent” Caricature of black people. If I showed you a nazi symbol you would link it to the hateful part of history, but why its just a symbol right even the buddas hav a similar one, tho its what it stands for, is what I’m trying to say basically if it makes sense fam
Well said Amber. Also right wingers tend to be culty religious anti science reality denying losers so that other stuff is also a thing lol. They got a point when they judge others as no one is perfect but they can't seem to realize that they are the worst people on the planet lol.
Right? That was the only surprising part of the whole clip to me... I didn't expect them to just spit it out so quickly and naturally, and then she just kept saying it! 😳 Gross people, both husband and wife.
Those dolls are cool. There is nothing racist about them. I hope there business gets better. If they were racist the dolls wouldn't be there. I wish them luck
Said the moron who can't understand a single bit of the racist history of the dolls that was explained in this very video but okay Anthony... Keep being a dip shit lol.
That's not unique to white people. Some people give a shit about other people, some don't. Some people view the world through identity, some view people as individuals.
I gotta say though when I saw Uncle Ben’s in Europe as a kid and teenager I always thought that he was the owner or founder of the company tbh and thus didn’t think that it’s a racially charged issue. The other products I’ve never seen in Europe.
No reason to be a dick about it. 🙄 I never said he owned “land”. I thought it was the picture of the owner or founder of the company. We don’t have racism in Europe like the US does and children don’t think in races. Don’t know who aunt jemima is but it was common in Germany that people who own or founded the company or are the current boss of the company to appear on items in the supermarket with a painted picture of their face. Also, no internet in the 80s and 90s to inform yourself about brands. Geesh, some people..
@@Lock2002ful ^^^^ I second this! 👌🏽 I thought that too as a kid. I understand the other guy tho, since it is and always has been so deeply rooted in America. And as you said, in the 80s and 90s, it wasnt easy being woke when info didnt travel as quick and as detailed back then.
You really dont think about it until its brought up, its not like the history is on the side of the box. If I remember correctly, at least for Uncle Ben's, the guy on the box was just someone they thought seemed trustworthy and therefore people would buy the product- without permission of the guy in question. Or ever paying him for having his likeness on the box. Manufacturers would use the excuse of brand recognition to defend keeping it as is, and I'm pretty sure theyd fabricate outrage to keep the packaging as is instead of picking something with less racist backgrounds, but at least to me with these particular products, they're not really as bad as the golliwogs as far as insensitive caricatures go.
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 What a dick. In most of the world where we didn't enslave every black person for 250 years we don't have slavery in mind all the time, so we don't immediately think of oppression when we see a black person on a boxed product. We assume that's who runs the biz, because it's the usual and because we never stopped black people from owning factories or land like in the US. Rather than us being sheltered, you're wearing guilt goggles which, if you're a white american, you probably should.
LAVISH JAX I think it takes an equal if not greater amount of mental gymnastics to get offended at all the innocuous things in our daily surroundings to the level that people today seem to be.
MadDash I do think that a lot of things are overreacted these days but there is a hard line between being a “FACTZ over feeelingz” guy and a dickhead. And a lot of people are more on the dickhead side.
@Andrew Man111, you're comparing ethnicity to race? hm. Jews weren't discriminated against for being WHITE. Your comment is just one massive strawman. He didn't respond cuz he probably thinks it's a waste of time to respond to someone like you
@Andrew Man111 as a jew here, don't ever fucking call me white again. I live in a country where people think i'm arabic just cause i have dark curly hair and a dark beard. So fuck off
If they lived in the US there's a chance they would've been considerate. Since they don't it's hard to understand even if they know the history behind it.
@@myratbayramfit I don't think you have to be from the USA to know that dropping the n-bomb is a bad idea. Believe it or not, racists in the UK had been using it for some time.
@@giantnerd14 I'll be honest with you, I didn't even know that n word was a really bad thing until I came to the US, I didn't even speak English that well. In my country using the word 'black' is offensive to young people but it is like a nickname, like calling someone a-hole, but for older people it is not an offensive word at all!
@@myratbayramfit Ok, well I was operating under the context of countries with primarily english speakers. Of course non-english speakers are not gonna be familiar with english slurs. But the subject of the video is Australia, and they definitely know what all that stuff means.
@@giantnerd14 Bro, I think what you're missing is that the word simply doesn't carry as big an emotional response outside of the usa and these old ass people prolly don't really give a fuck about what y'all think
As an American I didn’t notice there size I noticed how they have all the ideals of our trump supporters , ignorant and proud enough to go on tv cause they’re stupid enough to think they’re actually advertising there brand lol to anyone but more racists that want to shop with an owner they support
From travelling a good bit, I found that Australians can rival Americans in a lot of things. In many ways, I don't fit the way many Europeans view Americans. I'm quieter for one... I couldn't help but notice numerous occasions where Aussies stood out in the classic American way, but with a different accent.
Aboriginals are blacked-skinned. When the brits came to colonize australia they captured, enslave, and massacred aboriginals by the thousands. What-ever-that-was trivializes the history to some kind of a fucking joke like it's made up by some asshole to sell salt. It's fucking offensive is what that is.
@@robinsss it's because you do the stereotypical chariacture of of black people as jokes to white people. If it was just a normal black skinned doll it would be fine.
The fact that they so willingly threw around the n word at the end was essentially just the expected confirmation icing on the “they’re probably just plain racist” cake
Theres nothing racist on the traditions youre mentioning: Just on 5:38 the cream of wheat advertise text is really descriminatory. Or even racist Stereotypes are not bad in general. It matters what kind it is. When its is sayin the mentioned groups is worth less, unintelligent and so for example. Then theyre bad and should be banned. Mostl stereotype is just a harmless human phenomena used by every group of people by country, nation, religion, ethnics and so on oppose to other groups. You shouldnt bann that. Because you do it to and you always will. Its a natural element of comedy, of making things spectacular and so on. Thinking stereotypes are real in general, that is a problem. But thats not the fault of the existing of stereotypes. Its a educational problem. Your problem is to be willing to do the right thing by fighting against the wrong things. You can bann every word, brand, film etc. with stereotypes oppose to all races, religions and so on. It will not change the subject youre aiming for. It will just make the world a bit more insane
@@alexander1650x What? _I_ didn't mention any traditions. The video did. Take it up with them. I'm only pointing out that the only argument offered by the people he interviews is that it should stay the same because they don't want it to change. Please don't tell me what my problem is when you know nothing about me.
@@jabberw0k812 so Im wrong supposing your argument is a clue to, that you think stereotypes are bad in general and a step into basnish racism for ever is to banish ALL stereotypes. At least all regarding to people of color? You dont? ,,We need to preserve our racist traditions because I'm old and don't like change" They acutally just said ,,its tradition" They dont claimed that these are racist traditions. Thats what youre claiming and putting in there mouth. You also assume they dont want to bann these black puppets just because there old, to lazy to modernise there view. I guess if ,,good oll black lynching" would be the name of a product, they wouldnt support that"
My favorite wtf product I saw in real life was an mp3 player called the "iBeat Blaxx". I mean how the heck did that product name ever get out the door?
I find myself in a position I don't like being in here and defending it. Context matters. They used it in relation to the actual name of a product for the most part and even when the woman said it first it was clarifying a question.. I'm completely against word banning because that slippery slope is irreversible. Had they used it in relation to a person or group of people that would be clearly inarguably racist but in the context used here there was no racism used.. I'm not defending their characters, I don't know them and they could just outright be racists for all I know but in their actions presented here they did nothing wrong... People need to harden the fuck up and stop looking for excuses to be offended, there are far worse things in this world and my life experiences alone are enough to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these overly offended bitches
Americans might not say that anymore but only because they are afraid of being called racists. Not because they think there is anything wrong with being a racist. Just that they've figured out that "racist" is a bad word, and they don't like to be called bad words. But they still like being racists. Just don't call them racist.
@@lovemossberg7300 If only the millions Blacks who were murdered by the White colonials and the Apartheid government could have the luxury of moving to more friendly places. Too bad most of them didn't have the economic resources to do so...
@@lindiwengwevela524 Yeah so you think its fair that people which are effected today by race related murder can't move to a better place. Its rediccilus that double standard, proves that people use racism for their own gain. Either if you got power from racism, or your in a lesser position saying that racism is bad so you can get the power and benefit from racist policies.
Brucessary They do have people that dark you know, I've seen Indian people so dark they would disappear if they close their eyes in a low lit room, Aborigines and Africans as well, I recently saw an article on a woman who was criticized for being so dark she was absolutely beautiful.
Also pretty sure their lips would NOT be red naturally. That's left over from white people wearing black face, which is racist lol. There are accurate and non racist dolls out there. Move on from this one guys please.
That would make all black and white stick figures racist and would undermined the Nilotic people. The pure black Africans. The steriotypical hair and earrings could go away though.
I don't see whats wrong with having a black cook as a logo, if the name off the products refer to slavery that is obviously not right, I don't think that anyone outside off the us knows about that though.
Okay this is hilarious!!! I thought aunt jemima was literally someone’s aunt because when you go stay at your aunts house she makes you pancakes as a special treat LOL
Right? And what does "no connection to it" mean anyway? Does that mean he doesn't know any black or aboriginal people? Or does he mean that his dolls aren't racist? I'm leaning to the former...
"There are other products that don't offend them. Focus on them." Doctor: "Well, your liver has been destroyed by your alcoholism, but you have plenty of working organs. Focus on them."
@@dreamdarts6401 no. Because there is no life or death situation. Stop feeding offended culture. The dolls are bad in itself. Comparing it to actual harm is retarded.
To those who say this isn't equal, it is in a way. When you offend someone, and repeat it and normalize it, it can cause actual mental harm to the those groups. This causes America's favorite scapegoat for shootings; mental illness. It's a form of systemic bullying; just because you are not affected, it doesn't mean others are not. And within those affected, there are degrees to the outcomes. You should be free to be offended, yes. But at the same time, you shouldn't be free to allow a cycle of putting others down. Being politically correct can get overbearing, like saying swearing is not okay, when it has its actual uses. But somethings are better of being in history then the present.
"What? Getting rid of slavery?! But it's traditional and I grew up with slaves!" "What? Giving women the right to vote?! But it's traditional to have just the men vote! I grew up with women not being able to vote!"
Honestly there is a lot of merit in tradition and the way of life and procedures of our forefathers. But we must be unbiased towards our personal heritage and judge all of it accordingly
I lived in South Central Africa in a country named Malawi. That's a landlocked rift valley country wrapped around a giant fresh water lake. I was there for a number of years and became well acquainted with the local cultures and languages. A fairly common sight was the use of the 'N' word to name or describe a local business, i.e. : hair salon, grocery, music shop, cafe, side of the road food stand, barber shop, soda store, or cigarette sales, etc. The varied spellings added spice to signage. Spellings included, starting with the obvious, Negro, and variants : Nigger, Nigga, Niggah, Niggaz, et al. As you could imagine I enjoyed some interesting conversations about this Tradition. In that part of the world this is seen as an everyday thing and normal.
We grew up with Golliwogs in the UK too. Understand why they're regarded as offensive now, especially the name. If they wan to continue to make them, they should just call them rag dolls and make them in all different skin colours.
30-40 years to soon m8... assuming we are still in a comfortable enough place in 30-40 years to still be giving a shit about racism in the shit we buy... and you know, not trying to drown, freeze or die of heat exhaustion due to our changing of the climate so significantly that we start to end our own species...
“I’m sorry the dolls offend you. But there are other items in my store that aren’t offensive. Focus on that” Forget the source of this quote. But this really applies to life! Ingenious
For all the white (and brown) people who are not offended by the doll: you are not supposed to be offended; it isn’t a caricature of you. To end bigotry and systemic racism, we need to be allies to the people who are offended and to the people who are caricatured. We need to listen. We need to walk a mile in other people’s shoes. When we are not their allies, intolerance and racism against them continue; they continue because of us, just as surely as if we are openly bigoted and racist ourselves.
The shoe polish one I knew about when I was a kid though in America. You could get your shoes shined with “N” polish for a nickel. And you’re not racist for condoning these actions, what you are is condoning bigots to stay bigots, we should clarify. I’m sick and tired of people morphing bigotry and racism together they are different for a reason. This is what happens when you change the definition of words.
Soyborne. Born, made, and undone by the soy. You can call me an idiot I’m totally cool with that. I’ve been called worse. So can you tell me why I’m an idiot. I understand words change but some words to stay the same. The definition of these words hasn’t changed but people are changing the definition of the word to give credence to their pain or perceive words alone make someone intrinsically believe in a ideology. Once labeled it doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong. But I would like to hear your thoughts please.
2 youtube recommended comments in a row. Never saw that before! This think is obviously racism. Wheat, rice and country side stuff coming from the nice N**** picture with a cloth on the head! How can that be?
Funny how even when the right have their guy as president and still get treated better than anyone else who's not close to str8 white middle/upper class male... They are the most angry, upset, and offended people around lol. Because Obama mustard, coffee machines, and the dixie chicks are the worst thing that's ever happened to them apparently and this is some how a big deal lololol.
I have a tanned skin and I wouldn't mind seeing a tanned doll because I can't connect that to anything historically. But if there's a history behind those dolls then... I get it!
To be fair.... If it was just a black doll it'd be totally fine, the name isn't intrinsically racist and the history can be ignored like we ignore Nikes and Mercedes Benz. However the doll is depicted as a stereotype of what black people look like (full on black, big red lips, etc) not as just a regular black person
Yea. Excellant point. How has the black community reacted to them in the past? I could see them being embraced. But at the same time so was barbie. She was far more realistic but still received by children as the thing to be. Did the mollywogs play a similar role in keeping the kids in line? "This is your doll."
-''911 what is your emergency'' -''Please help, my daughter has been hit by a car'' -''Do you have other children sir'' -''Yes, 4 other children'' -''Well..........there are other children that haven't been struck by a car....focus on them''
@Starry Shadow Well maybe because they used the word differently and dont have the same history as the US. I dont know why they would name their cheese a racist word as well as other things if they thought it to be racist. Even if a word has a racist origin, it only means something when you or the speaker wants it to mean something.
@Starry Shadow I dont think they are ignorant, but if they are, maybe they have an excuse. I dont really know the history of Australia or to what extent that term was used in a racist way. For instance, I wouldnt expect anyone in China to really know what that word means, or really care. If anything though I think they were just saying it because it doesnt hold the same value to them. I guess it's just a matter of choosing to get offended or choosing not to get offended.
@Starry Shadow Its possible, I was just mostly referring to the different cultures and was picking something that doesnt have a huge language barrier as I believe a lot of Chinese learn English. I feel like they could be a bit ignorant if they were talking about it like that during an interview, but if the word doesnt mean much to them, it doesnt mean much to them
@@ifeanyimbah3126 What i'm trying to say is context. Those guys selling those toys can be seen as racist yes but also diversity. Not everything has to be about race. I wanna see some black toys. White isn't the definition of beauty. I hope i haven't offended you bruv.
The logic and reasoning from the owner was spot on. The free market will determine the products integrity and value. If you don’t like it...then don’t buy it. What is offensive to some or even one shouldn’t dictate what is allowed on the market. It’s called liberty and freedom. There is greater value. Respect it. Protect it.
Quote by Dave Chappelle from his last Netflix special Sticks & Stones: "Because we understood that this nigga was clearly lying. None of these details added up at all. He said he’s walking down the street in Chicago and-and, uh, white dudes come up to him and say, “Hey, man, aren’t you that faggot nigger from Empire?” What the fuck? Does that sound like how white people talk? I know white people. They don’t talk like that. “Are you that faggot nigger from Empire?” They would never say that. It sounds like something… that I would say. If you’re racist and homophobic, you don’t even know who this nigga is. You can’t watch Empire."
I was going to give the doll people a pass based on owning a historical item amongst a collection. However as soon as they said "Its not offensive to me so its not racist" they lost all of my respect.
Many people lose respect for themselves when they realize they want to erase the culture of others. Don't assume everybody's offended by black people and you won't be racist. Black people are not demanding to be forgotten. The Aborigines are not demanding to be forgotten. The American Indians are not demanding to be forgotten.
As a minority I think if we are offended by 50yr old product names then we make a fool of ourselves and crying attention to every silly little issue like this demeans and belittles more important issues that need rectification. This sort of stupid things are nothing but hype and cause for people without any proper cause.
God I've been trying to saying this for years, there are literally bigger fish to fry. Also, if we're honest, a lot of it is white people virtue signalling each other. It ain't even about blacks really
If everyone used this argument '' it's been like this for years why change it" we wouldt have ended slavery and had women out of the kitchen and into the workplace.
@@dubious6718 how about we inverse it make white people the slaves and make men at home. Cool right ? We can reduce crime after all according to your wacko statement.
Are they "banned" as in, the company withdrew them because the negative publicity outweighs the benefits of the sales? Or "banned" as in legally the government bans the sale? Very big difference. The first is of course fine, the second is an infringement on free speech.
Free speech - at least the way Americans understand it - isn't much of a thing around the world; even in most western democracies. There are more important things than free speech.
@@feothyr6810 i'm swiss and indeed have to say political free speech is one of the few things where americans are indeed much freer than the rest of us. However that has been seriously changing lately with this college liberal snowflake Development. And also all the stuff that has been getting beeped on american tv for a long time is very unfree in a different way ;)
What, just because you have a different opinion on something then a American makes you a racist? Americans threat people who say anything wrong or do anything wrong in the eye's of them as someone who commited crimes worse then the Nazi's, crimes of the American against the indians and Armenian genocide combined.
She was so eager to say the n-word not a nano-second had passed after Jim spoke before she was saying it, it’s almost like it’s a regular part of her vocabulary.
I am a black girl who played with black rag dolls as a kid. I didn't see the problem... Till he called them golliwogs. 🙄. My dolls were pretty and we're designed to look like me.
I am from Finland and I remember playing a card game called Musta Pekka (Black Pete) when I was little. In English the game's name is aaparently "old maid". It went something like that there were white "families" among the cards. Like one card for father, mother, son and daughter and then there was one black guy with red lips. The goal was to gather different families and pass down the Pekka from one player to another. Then the one who was left with Pekka in hand at the end lost and became called Black Pete. I found nothing racist about it and just thought the Pekka looked funny and... omg I just realized how racist that game sounds.
@@robinsss they used the name of a shoe polish as an excuse to say it over and over again. Sort of like a little boy calling a cat as "pussy" over and over again as an excuse to say a naughty word in front of his parents and not get in trouble.
she used to clarify which word he was referring to : then they used it to tell him about products that they saw when they were growing up that had the N word in the name : they were only telling him about how life was in the past
I don't feel like a Master race. Then again I think that especially with white people we just want to make sure we make room for a new mixed culture, but still feel like we're still as relevent as ever. And that is a tough thing, to realize that thing you're fond of, uncle Ben's, yes should be changed. But then again it particularly feels like when we mention how I don't like being called cracker, people get offended that I get offended over that. And so it feels like white people can't be racially offended. Yes I can! And that's okay. But I really do think that there's a big difference in being racially offensive and being racist. And that's a big thing nowadays. Where do you draw the line between racially offensive and being a racist.
When a name doesn't age well, then it isn't necessarily the name's fault... doesn't mean that a change isn't in order. Companies change names all the time... I don't understand the motivation to cling to some of these names when the upside is tradition alone. Also, I pass by a street named after someone's surname everyday... doesn't mean it was a great idea to name it "Rekdal Road"... and I make certain to pronounce it exactly like "rectal", and refer to it as often as I can just to emphasize it.
Finally a black man offended by black history instead of white people being offended . I'm personally not offended that black women were known for feeding their families.
It’s not about “for how long” something has been used, it’s about freedom of speech. People get offended. For better or worse reasons. Period. You get offended by some word? Good. Ignore it. Don’t buy the product. Tell others not to buy the product. That’s about it. We ain’t gonna legislate words! That’s fascist.
@Soyborne. Born, made, and undone by the soy. They are talking about banning toys and brand names. To me and you that’s nothing, but to someone else, that’s his job, his company. There are also numerous occasions where people got fired for saying something “offensive”. Tomorrow that person could be you and me. What’s next? Going in prison for saying a word? That’s a very dangerous path. We can’t tolerate fascism. Freedom of speech is unnegotiable when it comes to democracy.
I think product names should be changed if a substantial* number of people are likely to be offended. Without that limitation, anyone could have a private bad-word that they insisted should be removed. * To be defined later! Ha!
the LAST few seconds summed it up nicely ..... "their are other products in the store, SO FOCUS ON THAT" you know.... INSTEAD of looking for things to BE offended by!
Although I get it, just like here in the Netherlands, since this year we’ve officially gotten rid of the “black pete” thing and made him colorless or rainbowcolors or just with spots ( because he came through a chimney). The worries are now that it’ll get too PC and people start chasing after all our traditions and things that make us fundamentally Dutch. We love our culture
Wow. Thats huge. Id say its a leap in the right direction. My family has done brown face to dress as arabs for Halloween. They don't anymore. The soot faced chimney guy is far more of a tradition than Halloween. Very cool of you, the dutch. :) spots should be easier to clean afterwards anyway. Very cool.
The world does need old-timey black dolls too though. And uncle Ben just looks like a chef to me. All black representation from before 1990 could be considered problematic. But poc existed back then too.
Up until now I wasn't quite sure what John Oliver meant when he described Australia as "casually racist"
There are still places like this in the US. Certain towns and even just certain neighbourhoods... it's like travelling back in time 50 years.
@@ingridfong-daley5899 I worked at a facility in Western Kentucky that hired a black guy, some of the employees started leaving nooses hanging around. This happened until the guy quit, this was also only 10 years ago...
it's not like they are discriminating. They just want to sell black dolls. Honestly, people make too much of a big deal out of dumb shit like this and then ignore systematic racism.
@@kristianbasile7141 Normalizing racist things( like racist products and words) also contribute to systematic racism, not saying they are all at the same level, but you can't just pretend they are not problematic.
@@Mollygan so it's ok to make white dolls but not black ones? I don't get it.
I think there ist a lot wrong with what ist called racist these days, just being offended is Not automatically racist.
The most racist people by todays standards i know are not white or caucasian or whatever is ok to call a skin color in this world today.
"It's always been that way, so why change it?" is an inherently broken argument. No tradition was "always that way" because there was a time _before_ that tradition, meaning the very implementation of tradition is a change from what was "always that way" before.
What these people are really saying is "Well _I'm_ comfortable with it this way, why can't everyone else just do things _my_ way?", ignoring that for their way to take root in the first place, someone else's way was replaced.
In the classic MCU saying... TIMES ARE CHANGING. Nothing lasts forever. Get used to it racists : )
Although I get it, just like here in the Netherlands, since this year we’ve officially gotten rid of the “black pete” thing and made him colorless or rainbowcolors or just with spots ( because he came through a chimney). The worries are now that it’ll get too PC and people start chasing after all our traditions and things that make us fundamentally Dutch. We love our culture
@dfoiusfe Bro, you are equating the vote to a literal bar of cheese. Y'all really need to step back and listen to yourselves sometimes
@@kindbrute4640 Wrong. Both women's right to vote and the name of the cheese were more than open for change and the difference in importance between them is no reason to ignore either.
I would tell you to take your own advice, but something tells me that would just be too much change for you.
Or just the simpler argument; Just because it's tradition, it doesn't mean it's not fucking stupid!
“Guess which cheese is Coming to Dinner” that line got me 🤣🤣🤣
I think what some of the commenters are missing is that the COLOR of the doll isn't offensive, it's the CARICATURE of the doll that is offensive. We should have black dolls but not as diminutive caricatures of what white people think of them. This is not PC, it's humanity and the golden rule.
But: Is every "CARICATURE" automatically racist?
Every person has genes of a certain origin, may be dominantly black, asian, caucasian,... what ever. That means that every caricature of a real person is of an ethnic group as well. Does that make every caricature automatically racist?
Would a caricatury white doll also be automatically racist?
Oncle Ben's is racist? Really? (Here in europe you still get it everywhere) I really don't understand it. If he would be in chains - yes that would be racist. But just an older black guy in a white collar shirt and a pleased smile...? It's just a guy to me. Could be Uncle Chang's or Uncle Jim's as well.
Here in europe we had no black slaves. Nobody thinks of slaves when he sees a black person. I am sure there is a massive trauma within the US society caused by its past. But other parts of the world had a different past, therefore don't have these problems today and from their perspective these political correctness things in the US often look excessive - at least inappropriate to transfer them to other countries. Might be the right thing for the US. But that does not mean that such a black doll sparks even the slightest bit of racism in Africa, Asia, Europa or even Australia.
You are a pussy. Simple as that. Grow up
It's just a doll, sure it's comically enhancing certain features as a way to portray a certain race, but let's face it certain races have certain features that make it obvious where they're from, we can't be bullshitting ourselves by saying we're completely colorblind and saying all people are the same, I don't get offended by people portraying a Mexican as a brown, short, black hair having, sombrero wearing, taco eating person, mainly because I know and am related to a lot of Mexicans with most of those traits
olafspetzki bruh wtf you mean their was no black slaves in Europe are you joking.... plus how you see somthing dont mean you are correct about your assessment, like for example if something was originally created with the intent of being racist...you can’t just say it dont looks racist to me and think thats a valid argument. Personally I dont like the doll becasue I know what it stands for (do you think a doll like that created in thoes times was becasue they liked black people? )Caricature made in a context where the individual who mad it where racist, ofc its racist dude... they are inspired from a time of hate and to be enjoyed by the expense of black people
For the record tho different races dont wxist in the human species
Scott Whatever I get your point, thats if you take it at face value. let me ask a question tho, do you think the person that created that doll, did it with out any ill intent towards darker shades individuals?
Its not a doll made it this time and age, its almost guaranteed imo that the creators did it with more hate in mind then doing a “innocent” Caricature of black people.
If I showed you a nazi symbol you would link it to the hateful part of history, but why its just a symbol right even the buddas hav a similar one, tho its what it stands for, is what I’m trying to say basically if it makes sense fam
Damn she got excited to say the N word
Every "anti PC" person I know, ironically is often easily offended. Weird
u must be fun at parties
independent vote OH MY GOD. YOU CALLED ME A PERSON.
Difference being they don't want to ban what's offending them. That's the point.
Every single fear or thing that a right winger accuses others of or is afraid of is wat they wish to do unto others and fear having done unto them
Well said Amber. Also right wingers tend to be culty religious anti science reality denying losers so that other stuff is also a thing lol. They got a point when they judge others as no one is perfect but they can't seem to realize that they are the worst people on the planet lol.
Got a little too traditional when the n word was just being thrown around
Right? That was the only surprising part of the whole clip to me... I didn't expect them to just spit it out so quickly and naturally, and then she just kept saying it! 😳 Gross people, both husband and wife.
@@boondocksdragon8959 Americans are really the only people that care if someone says The Word That Shall Not Be Named™
@@boxerman1503 Amen
There was almost an eagerness from the wife or maybe I'm just over thinking it
@Zenande Mdludlu Done by and Aussie, in their store in 'Straya. I wonder why they thought they were speaking to australians
So, did these people just destroy their business or get new customers? It's hard to tell which way the blade will fall these days.
Those dolls are cool. There is nothing racist about them. I hope there business gets better. If they were racist the dolls wouldn't be there.
I wish them luck
Said the moron who can't understand a single bit of the racist history of the dolls that was explained in this very video but okay Anthony... Keep being a dip shit lol.
Know I’m sayin 😏
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 which part? The children's book or the british milk thing?
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Said the moron
Every one knows if it doesn't offend white people it isn't offensive.
Maybe ask a black person if he gets offended by a doll. Idk.
That's not unique to white people. Some people give a shit about other people, some don't. Some people view the world through identity, some view people as individuals.
That's true.
It's just science!
Jhon Zeimerman I’m offended
God they started dropping the N word like they are getting a care package call of duty
I gotta say though when I saw Uncle Ben’s in Europe as a kid and teenager I always thought that he was the owner or founder of the company tbh and thus didn’t think that it’s a racially charged issue.
The other products I’ve never seen in Europe.
Roman00 wow... you thought he owned land... wow. Sheltered. Aunt jemima own the pancake factory too?
No reason to be a dick about it. 🙄
I never said he owned “land”. I thought it was the picture of the owner or founder of the company.
We don’t have racism in Europe like the US does and children don’t think in races.
Don’t know who aunt jemima is but it was common in Germany that people who own or founded the company or are the current boss of the company to appear on items in the supermarket with a painted picture of their face.
Also, no internet in the 80s and 90s to inform yourself about brands.
Geesh, some people..
@@Lock2002ful ^^^^ I second this! 👌🏽
I thought that too as a kid.
I understand the other guy tho, since it is and always has been so deeply rooted in America.
And as you said, in the 80s and 90s, it wasnt easy being woke when info didnt travel as quick and as detailed back then.
You really dont think about it until its brought up, its not like the history is on the side of the box. If I remember correctly, at least for Uncle Ben's, the guy on the box was just someone they thought seemed trustworthy and therefore people would buy the product- without permission of the guy in question. Or ever paying him for having his likeness on the box.
Manufacturers would use the excuse of brand recognition to defend keeping it as is, and I'm pretty sure theyd fabricate outrage to keep the packaging as is instead of picking something with less racist backgrounds, but at least to me with these particular products, they're not really as bad as the golliwogs as far as insensitive caricatures go.
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 What a dick. In most of the world where we didn't enslave every black person for 250 years we don't have slavery in mind all the time, so we don't immediately think of oppression when we see a black person on a boxed product. We assume that's who runs the biz, because it's the usual and because we never stopped black people from owning factories or land like in the US. Rather than us being sheltered, you're wearing guilt goggles which, if you're a white american, you probably should.
“ITS NOT OFFENSIVE TO ME SO WHY ARE YOU OFFENDED”
A lot of mental gymnastics are required to be racist and then believe it’s tradition or necessary.
Crazy I A Fan Of Your Beats
Can I use the same theory when punching someone in the face? 'My nose isn't hurting so why is yours?'
LAVISH JAX I think it takes an equal if not greater amount of mental gymnastics to get offended at all the innocuous things in our daily surroundings to the level that people today seem to be.
Dirty4andahalf #60secjokes #Godspill #GSA Thanks bro! I appreciate it
MadDash I do think that a lot of things are overreacted these days but there is a hard line between being a “FACTZ over feeelingz” guy and a dickhead. And a lot of people are more on the dickhead side.
They couldn't wait to start throwin that n word around.
As soon as it was introduced into the conversation they really went at it
Kinda hard to mention the product without using the actual name of the product though wouldn't ya say?
@@HM--- Not really. Also they said it way before that.
@@thenurseinblack1810 Said what?
@@HM--- The N word. The topic of discussion.
As long as other people are offended everything is fine, the moment they are offended they would then demand immediate action.
That's how being offended works you stupid twat. Ain't y'all tired of fighting other people's fights?
@@kindbrute4640 And the store owners don't understand that, which is why they left that comment. Who are y'all and what fights?
@@Ava-pq6om Coherently please Ava, do they not understand what I say or do you not understand?
❤️ You said it perfectly..
Thank you Wesley. I hope you have a wonderful blessed day everyone! Namaste 🙏
@@riverviewmirrorbrokeoff9703 you do know you continue to change after death, right?
White people not offended by black face, *WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT*
@Andrew Man111 Yes they do. People literally killed themselves because a black Storm Trooper was introduced.
@Andrew Man111 because they are white, born with privilege. They dont need to be offended because there is no history that discriminates against them.
@Andrew Man111, you're comparing ethnicity to race? hm. Jews weren't discriminated against for being WHITE. Your comment is just one massive strawman. He didn't respond cuz he probably thinks it's a waste of time to respond to someone like you
@Andrew Man111 as a jew here, don't ever fucking call me white again. I live in a country where people think i'm arabic just cause i have dark curly hair and a dark beard. So fuck off
Andrew Man111 lol what? White people are perpetually offended, often on behalf of others.
" 'Straya's doing wonderful." *LOL!!!*
If they lived in the US there's a chance they would've been considerate. Since they don't it's hard to understand even if they know the history behind it.
@@myratbayramfit I don't think you have to be from the USA to know that dropping the n-bomb is a bad idea. Believe it or not, racists in the UK had been using it for some time.
@@giantnerd14 I'll be honest with you, I didn't even know that n word was a really bad thing until I came to the US, I didn't even speak English that well. In my country using the word 'black' is offensive to young people but it is like a nickname, like calling someone a-hole, but for older people it is not an offensive word at all!
@@myratbayramfit Ok, well I was operating under the context of countries with primarily english speakers. Of course non-english speakers are not gonna be familiar with english slurs. But the subject of the video is Australia, and they definitely know what all that stuff means.
@@giantnerd14 Bro, I think what you're missing is that the word simply doesn't carry as big an emotional response outside of the usa and these old ass people prolly don't really give a fuck about what y'all think
They're American-sized.
Kristian Meller Na Aussies are fat too
As an American I didn’t notice there size I noticed how they have all the ideals of our trump supporters , ignorant and proud enough to go on tv cause they’re stupid enough to think they’re actually advertising there brand lol to anyone but more racists that want to shop with an owner they support
From travelling a good bit, I found that Australians can rival Americans in a lot of things.
In many ways, I don't fit the way many Europeans view Americans. I'm quieter for one... I couldn't help but notice numerous occasions where Aussies stood out in the classic American way, but with a different accent.
Samwisegamge Mhm ; ah of course. knew you were american when you brought politics into the conversation.
Josh G They’re just stereotypes. There’s nothing wrong with them
Traditional means as far as they can remember. So basically Elvis era 50's.
Australia doesn't even have raccoons.
wow... that makes it even weirder :/
The cheese is named after a person, not the racial slur.
Harry Bowman thank you
Aboriginals are blacked-skinned. When the brits came to colonize australia they captured, enslave, and massacred aboriginals by the thousands.
What-ever-that-was trivializes the history to some kind of a fucking joke like it's made up by some asshole to sell salt. It's fucking offensive is what that is.
@@robinsss it's because you do the stereotypical chariacture of of black people as jokes to white people. If it was just a normal black skinned doll it would be fine.
The fact that they so willingly threw around the n word at the end was essentially just the expected confirmation icing on the “they’re probably just plain racist” cake
Yeah they are just non-violent racist that wont do anything but don't want anything to change. These types can in some ways be worse.
@@Go4Noctis Keeping opinions to oneself, and to those who ask - is the most harmless form of free thought, even if it is hate.
@@Zeromaus sure in a vacuum. The moment someone like that is in a place of authority or enough people are the same is when the problems start.
@@Zeromaus I'd say campaigning against removal/re-branding of racist products is not "keeping opinions to oneself."
@@giantnerd14 A good product is a good product, it hurts literally nobody to keep it the same except those who get offended by product branding lol
It’s easy to be a bigot when you haven’t faced bigotry yourself.
A doll is not important. Being segregated, unemployed and targeted by the police only because the color of your skin IS.
You don't know what other people have experienced.
Bigotry is extremely common everywhere.
'There are other products in the store, that maybe don't offend them. Focus on that'.
That's pure gold.
Anybody else can’t stop thinking about Always Sunny when the music plays?
the gang solves a little racist doll crisis
"I can't believe it's not racist cheese" lol
"We need to preserve our racist traditions because I'm old and don't like change."
Theres nothing racist on the traditions youre mentioning:
Just on 5:38 the cream of wheat advertise text is really descriminatory. Or even racist
Stereotypes are not bad in general. It matters what kind it is. When its is sayin the mentioned groups is worth less, unintelligent and so for example. Then theyre bad and should be banned.
Mostl stereotype is just a harmless human phenomena used by every group of people by country, nation, religion, ethnics and so on oppose to other groups. You shouldnt bann that. Because you do it to and you always will. Its a natural element of comedy, of making things spectacular and so on.
Thinking stereotypes are real in general, that is a problem. But thats not the fault of the existing of stereotypes. Its a educational problem.
Your problem is to be willing to do the right thing by fighting against the wrong things. You can bann every word, brand, film etc. with stereotypes oppose to all races, religions and so on. It will not change the subject youre aiming for. It will just make the world a bit more insane
@@alexander1650x What? _I_ didn't mention any traditions. The video did. Take it up with them.
I'm only pointing out that the only argument offered by the people he interviews is that it should stay the same because they don't want it to change.
Please don't tell me what my problem is when you know nothing about me.
@@jabberw0k812
so Im wrong supposing your argument is a clue to, that you think stereotypes are bad in general and a step into basnish racism for ever is to banish ALL stereotypes. At least all regarding to people of color?
You dont?
,,We need to preserve our racist traditions because I'm old and don't like change"
They acutally just said ,,its tradition" They dont claimed that these are racist traditions. Thats what youre claiming and putting in there mouth. You also assume they dont want to bann these black puppets just because there old, to lazy to modernise there view.
I guess if ,,good oll black lynching" would be the name of a product, they wouldnt support that"
"Tradition or racism?"
*sweats in Sinterklaas*
What's wrong with Sinterklaas?? They're fine to have in my opinion...
Zwarte Piet in the other hand...
WOW, THOSE TWO DESERVE EACHOTHER
My favorite wtf product I saw in real life was an mp3 player called the "iBeat Blaxx". I mean how the heck did that product name ever get out the door?
Never thought i'd say this but America sure has learned how to not say the N word compared to the two Aussies.
I find myself in a position I don't like being in here and defending it. Context matters. They used it in relation to the actual name of a product for the most part and even when the woman said it first it was clarifying a question.. I'm completely against word banning because that slippery slope is irreversible. Had they used it in relation to a person or group of people that would be clearly inarguably racist but in the context used here there was no racism used.. I'm not defending their characters, I don't know them and they could just outright be racists for all I know but in their actions presented here they did nothing wrong...
People need to harden the fuck up and stop looking for excuses to be offended, there are far worse things in this world and my life experiences alone are enough to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these overly offended bitches
Americans might not say that anymore but only because they are afraid of being called racists. Not because they think there is anything wrong with being a racist. Just that they've figured out that "racist" is a bad word, and they don't like to be called bad words. But they still like being racists. Just don't call them racist.
Now I can see why all those White South Africans moved to Australia after Mandela was released from prison...
Maybe because 45.000 got randomly murdered......
@@lovemossberg7300 If only the millions Blacks who were murdered by the White colonials and the Apartheid government could have the luxury of moving to more friendly places.
Too bad most of them didn't have the economic resources to do so...
@@lindiwengwevela524 Yeah so you think its fair that people which are effected today by race related murder can't move to a better place. Its rediccilus that double standard, proves that people use racism for their own gain. Either if you got power from racism, or your in a lesser position saying that racism is bad so you can get the power and benefit from racist policies.
@@lovemossberg7300 right "randomly"
Love Mossberg fair. The word you’re trying to use is fair, you dumb poes, use your skop.
Man the older gen can't go away fast enough.
yeah, there will be less smart people around
@@jsmith1214 you mean way less bigoted idiots
Maybe just make the dolls brown like real people instead of jet black? lol
Brucessary They do have people that dark you know, I've seen Indian people so dark they would disappear if they close their eyes in a low lit room, Aborigines and Africans as well, I recently saw an article on a woman who was criticized for being so dark she was absolutely beautiful.
Also pretty sure their lips would NOT be red naturally. That's left over from white people wearing black face, which is racist lol.
There are accurate and non racist dolls out there. Move on from this one guys please.
That would make all black and white stick figures racist and would undermined the Nilotic people. The pure black Africans. The steriotypical hair and earrings could go away though.
they are jet black people, though
It has nothing to do with color....simple.
Jim is actually a really good interviewer.
Not really, they are just skilled editors
Last one to use the tradition argument with me, I almost took a big bite off his arm and said "well, cannibalism is also a good old tradition"
As a child, cream of wheat was my favorite hot cereal. I believed the face on the box was God, because it was God's chosen cereal.
I don't see whats wrong with having a black cook as a logo, if the name off the products refer to slavery that is obviously not right, I don't think that anyone outside off the us knows about that though.
Okay this is hilarious!!! I thought aunt jemima was literally someone’s aunt because when you go stay at your aunts house she makes you pancakes as a special treat LOL
aww.. that's so cute :)
Wow... that was unexpectedly touching.
Too bad there's no god
when the real world finally matches the tone of that one jingle always sunny in philadelphia popularized. that is not good.
2:02 "TOKEN"
Ouch. :D
The amount of double-speak going on is scary.
That was fun to sit through... I'm so glad I got that dab before I though, very pleasant watch.
"Fuck... what is this? Australia" 😂😂😂
There is Clueless. There is Stubborn.
There is Clueless and Stubborn.
Then there are Bigots.
Sigh. 😩
There's human beings.
Then there's racists.
One is an animal capable of good or bad, the other is a creature of pure evil.
Doesn't offend me.
Why change it.
I have no connection to it.
These default responses, goodness.
Right? And what does "no connection to it" mean anyway? Does that mean he doesn't know any black or aboriginal people? Or does he mean that his dolls aren't racist? I'm leaning to the former...
"There are other products that don't offend them. Focus on them."
Doctor: "Well, your liver has been destroyed by your alcoholism, but you have plenty of working organs. Focus on them."
Horrible comparison.
@@NaJk93 it's actually a great comparison
@@dreamdarts6401 In that a tattered liver is equivalent to some bruised feelings?
@@dreamdarts6401 no. Because there is no life or death situation. Stop feeding offended culture. The dolls are bad in itself. Comparing it to actual harm is retarded.
To those who say this isn't equal, it is in a way.
When you offend someone, and repeat it and normalize it, it can cause actual mental harm to the those groups. This causes America's favorite scapegoat for shootings; mental illness.
It's a form of systemic bullying; just because you are not affected, it doesn't mean others are not. And within those affected, there are degrees to the outcomes.
You should be free to be offended, yes. But at the same time, you shouldn't be free to allow a cycle of putting others down.
Being politically correct can get overbearing, like saying swearing is not okay, when it has its actual uses.
But somethings are better of being in history then the present.
... 'Stralia's doing wonderful...
Has me DYING
Jim is always funny
"What? Getting rid of slavery?! But it's traditional and I grew up with slaves!"
"What? Giving women the right to vote?! But it's traditional to have just the men vote! I grew up with women not being able to vote!"
Women voting only bolsters the left. We now can see this. 😔
Zack Klein damn well that was sexist
@Scooters Videos yes! That's a perfect example :D
Derek Lowe aww... what a cute wittwel twoll... 😍🍭
@Derek Lowe and thats why you l0ve men "who are women" more than women, right?
"She's smiling!" I wish I could pop the smirk off her face she knew wtf she was saying. What disrespectful trash. May their business go bankrupt.
Either way they are happy with their ways so they wont change
What's wrong with those smiling doll?
Honestly there is a lot of merit in tradition and the way of life and procedures of our forefathers. But we must be unbiased towards our personal heritage and judge all of it accordingly
You are dizzy
I lived in South Central Africa in a country named Malawi. That's a landlocked rift valley country wrapped around a giant fresh water lake. I was there for a number of years and became well acquainted with the local cultures and languages. A fairly common sight was the use of the 'N' word to name or describe a local business, i.e. : hair salon, grocery, music shop, cafe, side of the road food stand, barber shop, soda store, or cigarette sales, etc. The varied spellings added spice to signage. Spellings included, starting with the obvious, Negro, and variants : Nigger, Nigga, Niggah, Niggaz, et al. As you could imagine I enjoyed some interesting conversations about this Tradition. In that part of the world this is seen as an everyday thing and normal.
Humans. We’re so terribly resistant to change. The things we cling to...I’ll never understand
We are creatures of habit by nature. Predictability coincides with comfort for most.
That was almost a haiku.
We grew up with Golliwogs in the UK too. Understand why they're regarded as offensive now, especially the name. If they wan to continue to make them, they should just call them rag dolls and make them in all different skin colours.
Finally, somebody brings this issue up. Now we can get those Ginger oppressing Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls off the shelves.
Ginger lives matter!
Fuck, I'm glad somebody gets it
Susse Kind
No, gingers have no soul!
sibulele ngada
"Getting it"
So, let me guess, somebody here doesn't understand what privilege and oppression means?
30-40 years to soon m8... assuming we are still in a comfortable enough place in 30-40 years to still be giving a shit about racism in the shit we buy... and you know, not trying to drown, freeze or die of heat exhaustion due to our changing of the climate so significantly that we start to end our own species...
Ban Ginger Nuts from the supermarket shelves in the UK.....and WTF are we going to do about white chocolate? I find that particularly offensive.....
“I’m sorry the dolls offend you. But there are other items in my store that aren’t offensive. Focus on that”
Forget the source of this quote. But this really applies to life! Ingenious
For all the white (and brown) people who are not offended by the doll: you are not supposed to be offended; it isn’t a caricature of you. To end bigotry and systemic racism, we need to be allies to the people who are offended and to the people who are caricatured. We need to listen. We need to walk a mile in other people’s shoes. When we are not their allies, intolerance and racism against them continue; they continue because of us, just as surely as if we are openly bigoted and racist ourselves.
Jim is my favorite nigga! ✌🏻🧔🏻
The shoe polish one I knew about when I was a kid though in America. You could get your shoes shined with “N” polish for a nickel.
And you’re not racist for condoning these actions, what you are is condoning bigots to stay bigots, we should clarify. I’m sick and tired of people morphing bigotry and racism together they are different for a reason. This is what happens when you change the definition of words.
Exactly. Words used to mean stuff.
Plus, English has different words for almost everything.
You guys are idiots. Words are constantly changing because that's what words do...
Soyborne. Born, made, and undone by the soy. You can call me an idiot I’m totally cool with that. I’ve been called worse. So can you tell me why I’m an idiot. I understand words change but some words to stay the same. The definition of these words hasn’t changed but people are changing the definition of the word to give credence to their pain or perceive words alone make someone intrinsically believe in a ideology. Once labeled it doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong. But I would like to hear your thoughts please.
They said the n word so many times that is just wow
The people fighting for "traditional values", or "history", often ignore other people's feelings. Meanwhile, THEY themselves, are easily offended too
And they are more likely to censor history they don't agree with.
independent vote,...your tiny beard is terrible. When you get older you will look back and wonder why noone told you.
2 youtube recommended comments in a row. Never saw that before! This think is obviously racism. Wheat, rice and country side stuff coming from the nice N**** picture with a cloth on the head! How can that be?
Funny how even when the right have their guy as president and still get treated better than anyone else who's not close to str8 white middle/upper class male... They are the most angry, upset, and offended people around lol. Because Obama mustard, coffee machines, and the dixie chicks are the worst thing that's ever happened to them apparently and this is some how a big deal lololol.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 'straya mate, 'straya. who gives a fuck about orange boy over there?
I love Aussies. I was there 30 years ago. They were 40 years behind the times. They still are/
This is the great time to see
I have a tanned skin and I wouldn't mind seeing a tanned doll because I can't connect that to anything historically. But if there's a history behind those dolls then... I get it!
To be fair.... If it was just a black doll it'd be totally fine, the name isn't intrinsically racist and the history can be ignored like we ignore Nikes and Mercedes Benz. However the doll is depicted as a stereotype of what black people look like (full on black, big red lips, etc) not as just a regular black person
@@jaimemartinez-el8wc I agree!
Yea. Excellant point. How has the black community reacted to them in the past? I could see them being embraced. But at the same time so was barbie. She was far more realistic but still received by children as the thing to be. Did the mollywogs play a similar role in keeping the kids in line? "This is your doll."
@@jaimemartinez-el8wc But this is how black people look...
Would Dubious be offended if I said he looked just like his youtube pic?
-''911 what is your emergency''
-''Please help, my daughter has been hit by a car''
-''Do you have other children sir''
-''Yes, 4 other children''
-''Well..........there are other children that haven't been struck by a car....focus on them''
Damnn son.
if you treat products like your children.
People pretend to be ignorant about things "we dont know why people dont like the doll" really man???
Edit: It get so much worse omg
@Starry Shadow Well maybe because they used the word differently and dont have the same history as the US. I dont know why they would name their cheese a racist word as well as other things if they thought it to be racist. Even if a word has a racist origin, it only means something when you or the speaker wants it to mean something.
@Starry Shadow I dont think they are ignorant, but if they are, maybe they have an excuse. I dont really know the history of Australia or to what extent that term was used in a racist way. For instance, I wouldnt expect anyone in China to really know what that word means, or really care. If anything though I think they were just saying it because it doesnt hold the same value to them. I guess it's just a matter of choosing to get offended or choosing not to get offended.
@Starry Shadow Its possible, I was just mostly referring to the different cultures and was picking something that doesnt have a huge language barrier as I believe a lot of Chinese learn English. I feel like they could be a bit ignorant if they were talking about it like that during an interview, but if the word doesnt mean much to them, it doesnt mean much to them
I'm a black. I'm African and i don't see a problem.
I'm black. I'm African and I see a problem.
@@ifeanyimbah3126 What i'm trying to say is context. Those guys selling those toys can be seen as racist yes but also diversity. Not everything has to be about race. I wanna see some black toys. White isn't the definition of beauty.
I hope i haven't offended you bruv.
The logic and reasoning from the owner was spot on. The free market will determine the products integrity and value. If you don’t like it...then don’t buy it. What is offensive to some or even one shouldn’t dictate what is allowed on the market. It’s called liberty and freedom. There is greater value. Respect it. Protect it.
Lol can anyone else totally picture Jim Jeffries saying racist shit with his Australian friends? Like the comedian he used to be? Anyone?
I'm not sure you know what a comedian is.
Quote by Dave Chappelle from his last Netflix special Sticks & Stones: "Because we understood that this nigga was clearly lying. None of these details added up at all. He said he’s walking down the street in Chicago and-and, uh, white dudes come up to him and say, “Hey, man, aren’t you that faggot nigger from Empire?” What the fuck? Does that sound like how white people talk? I know white people. They don’t talk like that. “Are you that faggot nigger from Empire?” They would never say that. It sounds like something… that I would say. If you’re racist and homophobic, you don’t even know who this nigga is. You can’t watch Empire."
I was going to give the doll people a pass based on owning a historical item amongst a collection. However as soon as they said "Its not offensive to me so its not racist" they lost all of my respect.
Many people lose respect for themselves when they realize they want to erase the culture of others. Don't assume everybody's offended by black people and you won't be racist. Black people are not demanding to be forgotten. The Aborigines are not demanding to be forgotten. The American Indians are not demanding to be forgotten.
They feel comfortable with saying the N word, makes you wonder
Because it's Australia.
The N-word isn't considered equally offensive everywhere.
@@fds7476 Americans in a nutshell...
Nigro is just a word...for...rest of the world...
Black Pete is a Tradition. The Story behind them is they were free and are now helpers of saint Nikolaas the Original
Black skinned dolls had me weak
That last bit had me rolling 😂😂😂
As a minority I think if we are offended by 50yr old product names then we make a fool of ourselves and crying attention to every silly little issue like this demeans and belittles more important issues that need rectification. This sort of stupid things are nothing but hype and cause for people without any proper cause.
God I've been trying to saying this for years, there are literally bigger fish to fry. Also, if we're honest, a lot of it is white people virtue signalling each other. It ain't even about blacks really
If everyone used this argument '' it's been like this for years why change it" we wouldt have ended slavery and had women out of the kitchen and into the workplace.
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A lot of those using that exact argument, already wished these things hadn't changed either.....
But, would that have been so bad?
Would have been a lot less crime and happier families/kids
@@dubious6718 how about we inverse it make white people the slaves and make men at home. Cool right ? We can reduce crime after all according to your wacko statement.
@@gorillaguerillaDK that's why time will make thier kind disappear. Skadooosh!!!
Ahhh, those were the days.... lol just kidding
Tales from the Hood 2 had a whole section about those damn dolls
Are they "banned" as in, the company withdrew them because the negative publicity outweighs the benefits of the sales? Or "banned" as in legally the government bans the sale? Very big difference. The first is of course fine, the second is an infringement on free speech.
Free speech - at least the way Americans understand it - isn't much of a thing around the world; even in most western democracies. There are more important things than free speech.
@@feothyr6810 i'm swiss and indeed have to say political free speech is one of the few things where americans are indeed much freer than the rest of us. However that has been seriously changing lately with this college liberal snowflake Development.
And also all the stuff that has been getting beeped on american tv for a long time is very unfree in a different way ;)
"The world is too PC, I can't openly be racist or homphobic and have to treat others with respect" -Boomers
What, just because you have a different opinion on something then a American makes you a racist? Americans threat people who say anything wrong or do anything wrong in the eye's of them as someone who commited crimes worse then the Nazi's, crimes of the American against the indians and Armenian genocide combined.
She was so eager to say the n-word not a nano-second had passed after Jim spoke before she was saying it, it’s almost like it’s a regular part of her vocabulary.
I hold this belief that Aussies are more racist that Europeans or Americans.
This is the reason I believe it.
I am a black girl who played with black rag dolls as a kid. I didn't see the problem... Till he called them golliwogs. 🙄. My dolls were pretty and we're designed to look like me.
Kudos to comedy central and Jim Jefferies for affecting aunt jemima. We should get you guys to cover more issues!
Damn. Do I have to stop doing my Crocodile Dundee impression as a show of appreciation?
Because thats not a knife. ...
This, is a knife.
Its the same as black pete in the netherlands
I am from Finland and I remember playing a card game called Musta Pekka (Black Pete) when I was little. In English the game's name is aaparently "old maid". It went something like that there were white "families" among the cards. Like one card for father, mother, son and daughter and then there was one black guy with red lips. The goal was to gather different families and pass down the Pekka from one player to another. Then the one who was left with Pekka in hand at the end lost and became called Black Pete. I found nothing racist about it and just thought the Pekka looked funny and... omg I just realized how racist that game sounds.
Yes! Ban all dark coloured dolls! Only white dolls from now on!!
Man the black rag doll is absolutely cutest doll I've ever seen.
Freedom of thought is a good thing
That damn couple was dropping the N-word like it was dollars at a strip club. Good Lord 🤦🏾♂️
hunnerdayEDT yes darn shoe polish made them
at which point did they use the n word?
@@robinsss they used the name of a shoe polish as an excuse to say it over and over again.
Sort of like a little boy calling a cat as "pussy" over and over again as an excuse to say a naughty word in front of his parents and not get in trouble.
robinsss 4:54 when you hear the beep
she used to clarify which word he was referring to : then they used it to tell him about products that they saw when they were growing up that had the N word in the name : they were only telling him about how life was in the past
Goddamned that’s sad. The master race needs salad nite.
I don't feel like a Master race. Then again I think that especially with white people we just want to make sure we make room for a new mixed culture, but still feel like we're still as relevent as ever. And that is a tough thing, to realize that thing you're fond of, uncle Ben's, yes should be changed. But then again it particularly feels like when we mention how I don't like being called cracker, people get offended that I get offended over that. And so it feels like white people can't be racially offended. Yes I can! And that's okay. But I really do think that there's a big difference in being racially offensive and being racist. And that's a big thing nowadays. Where do you draw the line between racially offensive and being a racist.
The cheese is named after a person, not the racial slur.
When a name doesn't age well, then it isn't necessarily the name's fault... doesn't mean that a change isn't in order.
Companies change names all the time... I don't understand the motivation to cling to some of these names when the upside is tradition alone.
Also, I pass by a street named after someone's surname everyday... doesn't mean it was a great idea to name it "Rekdal Road"... and I make certain to pronounce it exactly like "rectal", and refer to it as often as I can just to emphasize it.
Don’t worry Aussies, we have a lot more of these two in America, so you’re still a step ahead of us.
As a black man, aside from Aunt Jemima. I dont see any issue with the other two American products. I mean...who doesn't love Uncle Ben?
Finally a black man offended by black history instead of white people being offended . I'm personally not offended that black women were known for feeding their families.
They look like they could be rebel Wilson's parents
It’s not about “for how long” something has been used, it’s about freedom of speech.
People get offended. For better or worse reasons. Period.
You get offended by some word? Good. Ignore it. Don’t buy the product. Tell others not to buy the product.
That’s about it. We ain’t gonna legislate words! That’s fascist.
Why are you freaking out so hard? You can still say the N word dude... Not like you get thrown into prison for it...
@Soyborne. Born, made, and undone by the soy.
They are talking about banning toys and brand names. To me and you that’s nothing, but to someone else, that’s his job, his company.
There are also numerous occasions where people got fired for saying something “offensive”.
Tomorrow that person could be you and me.
What’s next? Going in prison for saying a word? That’s a very dangerous path. We can’t tolerate fascism.
Freedom of speech is unnegotiable when it comes to democracy.
I think product names should be changed if a substantial* number of people are likely to be offended. Without that limitation, anyone could have a private bad-word that they insisted should be removed.
* To be defined later! Ha!
Yeah honestly if enough people don't like Moist in Moist Wipes then why not change it?
@@Go4Noctis what kind of baby can't say the word moist
I'm offended by the name "Coca Cola" as they promote using drugs
Treat as you like to be treated.
the LAST few seconds summed it up nicely ..... "their are other products in the store, SO FOCUS ON THAT"
you know.... INSTEAD of looking for things to BE offended by!
“White people don’t like to be told what they can and can’t like.” Bwaaaahahahahaha Nailed it!!
I guess all people...
Wolf The Gentleman fair enough...but it’s still funny dude
Wolf The Gentleman
Yeah, but non-white people are more familiar with not having a say.
White people, it’s all new to them.
@@lazyfoxplays8503
Unless you are Irish, Polish or any other white which used to live under oppression for few hundred years.
Brandon Guitierez dude you are brown...
Although I get it, just like here in the Netherlands, since this year we’ve officially gotten rid of the “black pete” thing and made him colorless or rainbowcolors or just with spots ( because he came through a chimney). The worries are now that it’ll get too PC and people start chasing after all our traditions and things that make us fundamentally Dutch. We love our culture
Wow. Thats huge. Id say its a leap in the right direction. My family has done brown face to dress as arabs for Halloween. They don't anymore. The soot faced chimney guy is far more of a tradition than Halloween. Very cool of you, the dutch. :) spots should be easier to clean afterwards anyway.
Very cool.
It is so easy to judge another culture or another time with our current perception of what is right...
Focus on that buddy.... 😂😂😂 You do you, don't tell me what I am allowed to enjoy.
Seemed like that old man was saying that.
The world does need old-timey black dolls too though. And uncle Ben just looks like a chef to me. All black representation from before 1990 could be considered problematic. But poc existed back then too.