I’m 5.9”, female and after test rides on a S73 and NewGen, the 345 was infinitely more comfortable - the suspension makes a big difference. The S73 also has such a small frame which felt cramped, and I’m not even that tall. I bought the silver 250w 345 and it rides like a dream 🙌
It doesn't have 'hydraulic brakes or disc brakes', it has cable actuated disc brakes which work just as well as hydraulically actuated disc brakes. The advantages of hydraulic are better brake feel and they will stay adjusted. Advantages with cable actuated are you can choose any levers from mt biking and there's no brake bleeding nor possible fluid leaks. Either can work as well as the other and they both have good points and downsides. Thank you.
I've seen videos that test fully hydraulic disc brakes against mechanically actuated disk brakes and hybrid mechanically actuated hydraulic disc brakes (woah that's a mouthful). The fully hydraulic (FH) disc brakes won the test, stopping a few meters shorter than the other two types which were fairly similar. The only problem was that the FH brakes could easily lock a wheel which would result in worst performance. Fluid leaks are possible but for typical city cycling they are thankfully quite rare and shouldn't really be a deciding factor.
Absolutely love the newgen, it is Soooo comfortable and the specs wipe the floor with the super 73, those brakes and the handcrafted seat….simply incredible 🤘
I have the super 73 zx in gun metal grey, 0 regret after about 5 months. Fast enough for UK roads, really comfortable, loads of ways to customise it, great community.
Super73 also needs mud guards that actually "work properly" - In our opinion, this is one of the biggest issues with the Super73 and has been for the last 4 years now!! Not hating, just being very honest and hope the factory read this and take action to correct the issue and improve their product with regard to mud guards. (We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
@@super73uk Yes, It's the Tyres, I've Electrified a few snow tyre bikes and had the same issue cos they tyres release the roadwash in all directions in all positions :D
Take your point about the snow tyres, however, on the Super73 the issue is the stock front mud guard is made for "Looks" instead of "functionality" - As soon as you turn the handle bars there is Nothing to stop the water/mud from spraying straight up at the rider. We own a Super73 S1 bike and have fitted our own mud guards - Don't look as "pretty" as the stock mud guards but do stop 99.9% (or close) of the water/mud from the tyres splashing up onto the rider. Super73 are very aware of the issue and even refer to it in one of their videos yet after 4 years the issue has still not been resolved. The only 2 reasons we can think of are; 1. They prefer a "pretty" mud guard over a functional one. 2. They are based in California where it does not rain like it does in the UK so they don't see it as such an issue compared to us here in the UK. We must stress that we are NOT haters of the brand or bikes - We actually love them. Anybody reading this please understand we are just trying to improve the bikes for everyone who owns them. (We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
A whole video and you didn’t explore the joys of the 345’s ‘hand crafted cargo shelf’ .... 😆 Credit to the folk in London who designed a stylish bike, hopefully later models will have some thoughts on practicality re theft protection, wet weather, luggage etc. Early days, but keep up the good work.👍
Excellent analysis! in addition to the base bike the industry needs decant and honest customer service, not found with Super73. Unfortunately, my “COVID POD” invested seriously in over a dozen Super73 bikes only to be backstabbed repeatedly by the companies greed and dishonesty. We purchased bikes to be used as multipurpose cargo platforms based upon solid front, rear and side racks that are bolted to the frame, a10 speed option, turn signals, etc.. Super73 has now chosen to withdraw these promised accessories in favor or just pushing more bikes onto the market…they even refuse to allow other manufactures to build these and other accessories or provide useful info (like wiring schematics) to their customers. Unethical companies like Super73 should be stomped out and class action sued!! Let’s only keep the good guys that favor integrity and support bikers!!
I have the 250 NewGen and road tested the 750 which was a beast. I’ve been awaiting mudguards from them from awhile now, so that is a minor frustration. I’ve upgraded the peddles & front light, add mirrors & horn too.. it’s a fantastic bike, not as easy to mod as the Super73 but it’s early days for them. No regrets with my purchase.
I very almost went for the New Gen but the size just put me off being not the tallest! I bought the ZX and live it! Wife has just bought the ZG… ZX will need some mods over time breaks and maybe front suspension
I usually like your videos but that felt like a thrown together paid promotion. No mention of specifications like range, motor type, batteries. Also there is about 5 other brands you could add to the mix including Urban Drive style and Synch who are also UK company. I own a Mario ebike which is very similar to this bike and was only £1400 and has mud guards. By all means test these bikes but also at VERY least mention the competition. Finally what is the point of your helmet.
The 345's seat height makes a great difference. I've tried the super 73 and it totally ruins my back. Nevertheless, there is something super73 has achieved, that other ebike companies should think of : although their bikes can ride at high speeds, they remain street legal in riding mode 1. At that level of price, I dont want to have to chose between a fast bike or a legal bike. The speedelec limitation in europe is annoying as f*** but you still have to deal with it.
If you have used an e-bike with dual motors and dual suspension that can climb a hill unassisted you would never look at these bikes. I would like to support them as they are made in the UK/US but they are not competitive price wise or hardware wise. The only boast NewGen and Super73 have is support which might be enough for some. If they made a quality version of the LANKELEISI X-Black Knight I'd be all over that. I'm not recommending Lankeleisi btw.
I have had my ZX since August 2021 and use it to commute to work and back, i have done over 800miles with it so far and it has been very reliable, i have changed to hydraulic brake callipers for a little better braking performance and also added front suspension forks which made an even bigger difference on our poorly maintained roads. I have also added an extra 48v 17mah battery so my range has been vastly improved and i no longer have to worry about range anxiety.
hey I'm from Birmingham in the UK. I was looking into getting an ebike for a year now and I finally got. But I didn't get a super 73, also that was my second choice. I found a website called cruz73 And they sell that style of bike for £1500 and you get a 500w motor and a 13 amp hour. So I bought it and it's amazing. You should review it for your channel, and the manufacturers are based in Manchester.
What makes it Super, is the ridiculously super expensive price! I have a Motorino XPn that I bought used for only $1100 USD from a lady that put only 300Km on it. That was 5 years ago. It's the only vehicle I have and use it to do my daily errands. No one can walk away with it, since it weights more than I do.
I really like the look of the NewGen. Did you try it on any hills? I don't know what a bike like this would be like trying to go up hill. Great video though. Thank you 😊
You mentioned where to buy the Super73 but didn't mention where to buy the NewGen - Are you able to put a link? (We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
Great video... finally some vids on the Newgen bike... I originally was planning to buy the Newgen but went for the Super73 S2 instead (1k more expensive tho)...
The UK one looks just as good but why would a British bike not have mudguards? 😂 Also, you don't have to pay additional money for the 750W version with the USA model.
no change as yet, people need to force the issue by ignoring this backwards law that makes no sense. if the government thinks its fine to let companies hire them out then theres no reason for not allowing private ownership ....other than they cant monetize it. so if theyre serious about getting carbon neutral they should encourage this kind of travel.
For anyone interested, Reddit pages for Super73 & Newgen: www.reddit.com/r/Super_73_Mods_Plus/ www.reddit.com/r/NewGen345/ (We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
Pfftt! Cargo and range look limited for the price. I have an early 21 gear ICE trike I'd bought 15 years ago for £800. I've brushed it off, fitted new fatter tyres, cargo rack, friction gear changers and a 1.5Kw hub powered by a 52v 17AH pack all for another £1K. It hauls my 40kg of shopping on a 20 mile round trip, and easily hits 35mph if I need a boost to get out of danger (tractors, roundabouts, Red Bull can flinging DPD drivers). Throttle control is essential for when you're being tailgated or about to be mulched by a Range Rover pulling out of a roundabout entry....sod the rules when it's about staying alive. I've cable activated drum brakes and they'll rip my tyres apart if slammed on hard. Lesson here is what another channel said...."what's the best eBike? Your favourite bike with a conversion". Horses for courses, etc.
Before you buy a Super73, watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/5KFJlDAyGpE/v-deo.html. My bike's battery didn't last a year, and Super73's customer service was no help.
Hydraulic and cable brakes perform the same. The main difference is hydraulics feel different when you press the lever but have more maintenance. Where are the Regen brakes? They are an upgrade that require even less maintenance than either hydraulic or cable disc brakes.
At 2.40 it's got that Cafe racer vibe , have you ever seen a Cafe racer ? Also what side of the road do we drive on , you hardly spent any time looking were you were going or where you aware of what was around you like the van that was behind you when you slammed the brakes on .
Both of these bikes are over priced and underspec if you want a 73 and live in the UK look at alibaba get yourself a fantastic deal. You might have to wait a few months though but literally half the price...
The bike is mechanically geared as well as having electronic gears, which means they wouldn't be able to fit a belt drive. While belt drives are more reliable, chain drives are easier and cheaper to replace, and are more efficient (important on a heavy bike like these ones). So there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
All these decal slappers buying frames and parts from same manufacturer in Taiwan, China and Singapore and fooling people with price mind game.🤣 most versatile frame as well as bike of this type is coast cycles in Singapore. Check it out. If you have $$$ or £££ or €€€ to spend as well as either you are DIYer or off the shelf buyer, check it out.
Anyone who has grown up adjusting a conventional bicycle to fit (saddle to a height where your heel just reaches the pedal with an almost straight leg) will, like me, cringe at these positions. Your knees will suffer and pedalling efficiency will be rubbish. Your foot position on the pedal is that of a non cyclist too. The front edge of your helmet should be just above your eyebrows or your face will do the braking when you fall off. I’m just being picky because I could never get past the hideous gas-pipe looks of these horrors. Just another opinion from a chap who’s 74 (today!) and has yet to succumb to a powered bike. Sonder Camino ti.
5:08 why even bother wearing a helmet when it's that far back not protecting your forehead?
This would be fun to ride in rainy roads of UK.
Who needs rain or mud guards at that price?
I’m 5.9”, female and after test rides on a S73 and NewGen, the 345 was infinitely more comfortable - the suspension makes a big difference. The S73 also has such a small frame which felt cramped, and I’m not even that tall. I bought the silver 250w 345 and it rides like a dream 🙌
The frame on super73 is actually more attractive, i see tens of super73 everyday cruising fast, definitely will catch your eyes
wont be able to lock these bikes in public for long. iconic design makes this a target for bike thieves
Time we cut off their hands.
Please wear your helmet correctly. Some people are easily influenced
It doesn't have 'hydraulic brakes or disc brakes', it has cable actuated disc brakes which work just as well as hydraulically actuated disc brakes. The advantages of hydraulic are better brake feel and they will stay adjusted. Advantages with cable actuated are you can choose any levers from mt biking and there's no brake bleeding nor possible fluid leaks. Either can work as well as the other and they both have good points and downsides. Thank you.
I've seen videos that test fully hydraulic disc brakes against mechanically actuated disk brakes and hybrid mechanically actuated hydraulic disc brakes (woah that's a mouthful). The fully hydraulic (FH) disc brakes won the test, stopping a few meters shorter than the other two types which were fairly similar. The only problem was that the FH brakes could easily lock a wheel which would result in worst performance. Fluid leaks are possible but for typical city cycling they are thankfully quite rare and shouldn't really be a deciding factor.
Absolutely love the newgen, it is Soooo comfortable and the specs wipe the floor with the super 73, those brakes and the handcrafted seat….simply incredible 🤘
Id get rid if the skateboard shelf though….
spec wipe the floor with S73 ? absolute rubbish. it gets up 1000 w of power. newgen is underpower ugly looking bike
I have the super 73 zx in gun metal grey, 0 regret after about 5 months. Fast enough for UK roads, really comfortable, loads of ways to customise it, great community.
how tall are you cos im not sure id be to tall for it t o be comfy
@@hugejobbie ye thats what i want to know im 6,4 would i be to tall for the bike
@@jordanlewis8325 way to tall m8 .. even s2 is to small
The New Gen just needs mudguards because it's a UK Bike
Super73 also needs mud guards that actually "work properly" - In our opinion, this is one of the biggest issues with the Super73 and has been for the last 4 years now!!
Not hating, just being very honest and hope the factory read this and take action to correct the issue and improve their product with regard to mud guards.
(We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
@@super73uk Yes, It's the Tyres, I've Electrified a few snow tyre bikes and had the same issue cos they tyres release the roadwash in all directions in all positions :D
Take your point about the snow tyres, however, on the Super73 the issue is the stock front mud guard is made for "Looks" instead of "functionality" - As soon as you turn the handle bars there is Nothing to stop the water/mud from spraying straight up at the rider.
We own a Super73 S1 bike and have fitted our own mud guards - Don't look as "pretty" as the stock mud guards but do stop 99.9% (or close) of the water/mud from the tyres splashing up onto the rider.
Super73 are very aware of the issue and even refer to it in one of their videos yet after 4 years the issue has still not been resolved. The only 2 reasons we can think of are;
1. They prefer a "pretty" mud guard over a functional one.
2. They are based in California where it does not rain like it does in the UK so they don't see it as such an issue compared to us here in the UK.
We must stress that we are NOT haters of the brand or bikes - We actually love them. Anybody reading this please understand we are just trying to improve the bikes for everyone who owns them.
(We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
A whole video and you didn’t explore the joys of the 345’s ‘hand crafted cargo shelf’ .... 😆
Credit to the folk in London who designed a stylish bike, hopefully later models will have some thoughts on practicality re theft protection, wet weather, luggage etc. Early days, but keep up the good work.👍
do you think it could hold a skateboard? I would say a bungee net would be more practical than a wood shelf
@@utubeape Interesting fact: The shelf is actually hand made by a local skateboard company in London!
@@utubeape easily
Looks proper shit though… is it for when you’ve stopped.. u can do arrangements or bits n pieces.. at every traffic lights ..
Excellent analysis! in addition to the base bike the industry needs decant and honest customer service, not found with Super73. Unfortunately, my “COVID POD” invested seriously in over a dozen Super73 bikes only to be backstabbed repeatedly by the companies greed and dishonesty. We purchased bikes to be used as multipurpose cargo platforms based upon solid front, rear and side racks that are bolted to the frame, a10 speed option, turn signals, etc.. Super73 has now chosen to withdraw these promised accessories in favor or just pushing more bikes onto the market…they even refuse to allow other manufactures to build these and other accessories or provide useful info (like wiring schematics) to their customers. Unethical companies like Super73 should be stomped out and class action sued!! Let’s only keep the good guys that favor integrity and support bikers!!
have you guys reviewed the RadRunner 2 or plus in the UK? A bit more utility than these and a saving of a grand …
I have the 250 NewGen and road tested the 750 which was a beast. I’ve been awaiting mudguards from them from awhile now, so that is a minor frustration. I’ve upgraded the peddles & front light, add mirrors & horn too.. it’s a fantastic bike, not as easy to mod as the Super73 but it’s early days for them. No regrets with my purchase.
Do the police ever stop you ?
@@aabc84 hey uhm u can change the power very easily with your app
@@youssefrahaoui9154which model can switch thing with app?
@@missingdetails1046 super73
I very almost went for the New Gen but the size just put me off being not the tallest! I bought the ZX and live it! Wife has just bought the ZG… ZX will need some mods over time breaks and maybe front suspension
The Super 73 definitely needs longer crank arms. If not for the additional power, then for not looking a bit like a hamster whilst pedalling it.
Just put in pas 4 do few turns n that’s it … ain’t got to pedal on these much
I usually like your videos but that felt like a thrown together paid promotion. No mention of specifications like range, motor type, batteries. Also there is about 5 other brands you could add to the mix including Urban Drive style and Synch who are also UK company. I own a Mario ebike which is very similar to this bike and was only £1400 and has mud guards. By all means test these bikes but also at VERY least mention the competition. Finally what is the point of your helmet.
NewGen 345 S !!! Coming to Warrington tomorrow...cant wait...yeahhhh
you might have just sold me on the newgen great review
The 345's seat height makes a great difference. I've tried the super 73 and it totally ruins my back. Nevertheless, there is something super73 has achieved, that other ebike companies should think of : although their bikes can ride at high speeds, they remain street legal in riding mode 1. At that level of price, I dont want to have to chose between a fast bike or a legal bike. The speedelec limitation in europe is annoying as f*** but you still have to deal with it.
Unfortunately, now that loophole's closed and Super73 removed the option to unlock by app. They're all limited now.
If you have used an e-bike with dual motors and dual suspension that can climb a hill unassisted you would never look at these bikes. I would like to support them as they are made in the UK/US but they are not competitive price wise or hardware wise. The only boast NewGen and Super73 have is support which might be enough for some. If they made a quality version of the LANKELEISI X-Black Knight I'd be all over that. I'm not recommending Lankeleisi btw.
I have had my ZX since August 2021 and use it to commute to work and back, i have done over 800miles with it so far and it has been very reliable, i have changed to hydraulic brake callipers for a little better braking performance and also added front suspension forks which made an even bigger difference on our poorly maintained roads.
I have also added an extra 48v 17mah battery so my range has been vastly improved and i no longer have to worry about range anxiety.
Thank God you're back! We had to watch some bloke!
Aerial Rider Grizzly might be an option too!?
Hey, could I take a passenger in the newgen? Is the seat big enough? We're 140kg max together.
So you can download app and unlock/derestrict it. Can you reverse this? The point being if you are off-road?
Super73-R (or RX) has dual adjustable suspension 1200w motor with 2000w peak.
Their fast mate gotta get a throttle though
hey I'm from Birmingham in the UK. I was looking into getting an ebike for a year now and I finally got. But I didn't get a super 73, also that was my second choice.
I found a website called cruz73
And they sell that style of bike for £1500 and you get a 500w motor and a 13 amp hour. So I bought it and it's amazing. You should review it for your channel, and the manufacturers are based in Manchester.
What makes it Super, is the ridiculously super expensive price!
I have a Motorino XPn that I bought used for only $1100 USD from a lady that put only 300Km on it.
That was 5 years ago. It's the only vehicle I have and use it to do my daily errands. No one can walk away with it, since it weights more than I do.
Anything about thé range of the battery?
What charger does need the 345 ?
Can you put your crash helmet on properly please. 😃
Anyone by any chance know where newgen got their batteries from/manufactured? Thanks.
I really like the look of the NewGen. Did you try it on any hills? I don't know what a bike like this would be like trying to go up hill. Great video though. Thank you 😊
It will give up on a hill like most single motor e-bikes, you need dual motor for that.
Looking as amazing as always - love your sense of style. Fizzy911s x
yea, rocking rolling baby! I would go for the one what is better two up for a pillion.
NewGen Available in Canada?
Check out Mario ebike on Alibaba I am 80% they are just importing and rebranding.
The British one is actually the Dutch frame of the phatfour. They are the owners of that design
Both are really nice but way over priced should be about half the price
I preferred the old 345 with a torque sensor. Cadence sensor doesn't feel as natural.
You mentioned where to buy the Super73 but didn't mention where to buy the NewGen - Are you able to put a link?
(We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
Do you plan on making a video on how to safely park an expensive ebike in the UK? I know we have a super high theft rate here
Don't do it !!
Def Newgen
Is it comfortable though ? Would be I think for me because I'm 5 foot but you ?? I
I'm currently working on a s73 knockoff from china, and this shape of ebike is the future for sure
I’m right in saying s73 was the the first on road .. shape and design
Since you've got viewers around the world (including me in Canada), could you throw in whether the bikes you review are available in the UK only?
Great video... finally some vids on the Newgen bike... I originally was planning to buy the Newgen but went for the Super73 S2 instead (1k more expensive tho)...
Great choice who wants a shelf on their bike anyway
I love the NewGen. It's really a shame that they've ceased trading. And you @electroheads have a display sample for £999 ...
Can i get a throttle on the uk bike ver ? Do these also have Hydraulic brakes by the way ! ... smart looking bikes , got my vote 👍
You look great on the bikes
The UK one looks just as good but why would a British bike not have mudguards? 😂
Also, you don't have to pay additional money for the 750W version with the USA model.
Wishing that New Gen and Super 73 and all Juiced or Radrunner bikes used commuter-bike style tires instead of fat tires.
i think the fat tires suit the bikes gives it more of an aggressive look. in terms of the super 73
The US ZX doesn't have a headlight so you got us beat, there
Can 2 fit on newgen
Yes, but not comfortably..small trip/run.. but no really fun to do.
Off topic but that helmet is bugging me. They way it's being worn so far back on the head you might as well not bother.
But if on right you can't see her pretty face and hair!
Can we have an update on the law for E Scooters in the UK plz
no change as yet, people need to force the issue by ignoring this backwards law that makes no sense. if the government thinks its fine to let companies hire them out then theres no reason for not allowing private ownership ....other than they cant monetize it. so if theyre serious about getting carbon neutral they should encourage this kind of travel.
mudguards and warranty?
SUPER73 > everyone else 😉
For anyone interested, Reddit pages for Super73 & Newgen:
www.reddit.com/r/Super_73_Mods_Plus/
www.reddit.com/r/NewGen345/
(We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to"Super73" the bike company)
Why wouldn't they put mud guards on the 345 WTF ????
Pfftt! Cargo and range look limited for the price. I have an early 21 gear ICE trike I'd bought 15 years ago for £800. I've brushed it off, fitted new fatter tyres, cargo rack, friction gear changers and a 1.5Kw hub powered by a 52v 17AH pack all for another £1K. It hauls my 40kg of shopping on a 20 mile round trip, and easily hits 35mph if I need a boost to get out of danger (tractors, roundabouts, Red Bull can flinging DPD drivers). Throttle control is essential for when you're being tailgated or about to be mulched by a Range Rover pulling out of a roundabout entry....sod the rules when it's about staying alive. I've cable activated drum brakes and they'll rip my tyres apart if slammed on hard. Lesson here is what another channel said...."what's the best eBike? Your favourite bike with a conversion". Horses for courses, etc.
Pics or it didn't happen
looks nice but didn't look like the super73 which holds the title of easier to sell if you do. every other bike is just following
New haircut? Looks great! IMO the Super 73 looks better than the New Gen 345!
this is like comparing and iphone to an adroid phone, it does the same job but you know what people are going for.
You care too much about how you look wearing your helmet. If you crash wearing your helmet like that and hit your head it won't be pretty
Before you buy a Super73, watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/5KFJlDAyGpE/v-deo.html. My bike's battery didn't last a year, and Super73's customer service was no help.
This brit isn't biased at all... right? 🙄
Only thing super73 has that newgen doesn't is its a lot more customisable
Can you use your helmet properly next time? Like this its completely useless if you fall
Aliexpress and a weekend :D What's going on with that front light has it been drinking?
Great video but brakes not breaks.
4:51 its not Left Hand Drive is it ? reverse video ?
I wish she would come to Texas and ride bikes with me
Ive got the super73 s2 and love it
I'm 6'2 and I'm definitely too tall for my super 73
Also buy local...
Hydraulic and cable brakes perform the same. The main difference is hydraulics feel different when you press the lever but have more maintenance. Where are the Regen brakes? They are an upgrade that require even less maintenance than either hydraulic or cable disc brakes.
Super 73 all day!.
I like Eilis!
She's awesome
At 2.40 it's got that Cafe racer vibe , have you ever seen a Cafe racer ? Also what side of the road do we drive on , you hardly spent any time looking were you were going or where you aware of what was around you like the van that was behind you when you slammed the brakes on .
new gen is a lot better than the super 73 it has 750w motor hydraulic brakes and suspension
That’s what I’m thinking but Super73 seems to offer high top speed with throttle (when off road in UK of course!)
The front lights falling of the newgen 🤣
On what planet does that bike look anything like a cafe racer???
I love this bike but there is no built in GPS or alarm tracker. I would go for a Vanmoof for about £500 cheaper plus it comes with 3 year warranty.
Super 73 all day
Never understood why European Ebikes are just worse in every way than American Ebikes while also being way more expensive.
Come on, get your helmet on properly….
Super 73 best
it looks like riding a kids 3 wheel bike with the pedal like that ..be sides that the bike is gd shame bout the pedals n short arms
Both of these bikes are over priced and underspec if you want a 73 and live in the UK look at alibaba get yourself a fantastic deal. You might have to wait a few months though but literally half the price...
No full throttle for both bikes.......welcome to UK 🤣
73 ftw
Trim the cable tails on the brakes or they get caught in the rotors causing catastrophic wheel lockup.
Throttles are legal on ebikes if they assist the rider up to 15.5mph btw
Love the bikes but come on, chain drive...belt drive is much more reliable and for the price point, they should'nt skimp out.
The bike is mechanically geared as well as having electronic gears, which means they wouldn't be able to fit a belt drive. While belt drives are more reliable, chain drives are easier and cheaper to replace, and are more efficient (important on a heavy bike like these ones). So there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
Do the police pull you over ?
I love the blonde host! Who is she?
All these decal slappers buying frames and parts from same manufacturer in Taiwan, China and Singapore and fooling people with price mind game.🤣 most versatile frame as well as bike of this type is coast cycles in Singapore. Check it out. If you have $$$ or £££ or €€€ to spend as well as either you are DIYer or off the shelf buyer, check it out.
Anyone who has grown up adjusting a conventional bicycle to fit (saddle to a height where your heel just reaches the pedal with an almost straight leg) will, like me, cringe at these positions. Your knees will suffer and pedalling efficiency will be rubbish. Your foot position on the pedal is that of a non cyclist too. The front edge of your helmet should be just above your eyebrows or your face will do the braking when you fall off.
I’m just being picky because I could never get past the hideous gas-pipe looks of these horrors.
Just another opinion from a chap who’s 74 (today!) and has yet to succumb to a powered bike. Sonder Camino ti.
They look really cool and I considered one but with 250watt they're really slow and heavy.