I feel like you know who I am and you were waiting for me to watch this video, feel exposed and ashamed of my behavior, so that I could get my shit together and finally start spending my time doing more productive things. Thanks.
Wow, this is so true, I feel very exposed... I don't read romance novels but I find myself stuck in watching useless online videos (for example, recently I am stuck in this Jungian Psychology trivial loop...). The problem is UA-cam and other platforms are designed to keep you on them, so it keeps suggesting videos with clickbait titles directed at my thirst of knowledge. I always try to hide it when I get stuck in these loops and can confirm that "exposing" me in it does make me break off the loop for a bit. I wish I had the ability to break it myself. Only once in a few weeks I push myself into learning more useful and practical stuff, like programming and stuff like that
Same here XD. But these videos I think are important for us to know ourselves objectively, to help ourselves to maximize our potentials since we know what we're good and bad at, using these facts, we know what to do next, what may come in the future and how to manage it. Just don't make them trivial. PS: I'm also learning programming (VBA) and still in the "zone". I'd been in your shoes though. Good luck!
@@WeisSchwarz I like these videos as it helps me learn why I scare others and how to dampen it. Its much more easily achieved in my 30s but the reflection to my 20s is hilarious.. ~ estj
@@goodvibesonly7188 Loyalty, respect, appreciation, admiration. Creating good experiences for them. Courteously putting aside your own preference to accommodate their need for traditional occasions (every year if possible).
It really depends on how you confront them. ISTJ’s want to be comfortable so you need to find that balance where they are comfortable and also ready to listen to what you have to say to them. When I have to confront my istj friends I do it when we’re a long together and joking around. I keep it light and funny. But at the same time making him uncomfortable enough that he notices he needs to make a change. In their communication style they are direct and responding. So you need to be direct while also asking the right questions. IE Bro you’ve been putting on weight(direct). What are you going to do when you have to buy all your clothes again in XXL(questions so he can think and respond)? Oh why don’t you just fix your diet and lose weight instead. (Direct) What’s most important when confronting istjs is asking the right questions to get them to be more objective. This worked on my friend because I know he’s cheap af and does not want to buy new clothes in a new size. And I’m my experience a lot of the istjs I know are very cheap haha
Just because I read smutty romance novels (or smutty fanfiction in my case) late at night doesn't mean I'm wasting my time. I just.....I don't have to justify my reasoning LOL. I didn't take offense to that remark, but I physically cringed when you started talking about the romance novels since I'm very guilty of indulging in them.v
My roommate is an ISTJ. Man is that guy stuck so far into his vice it's not even funny. His Te parent won't consider my Ti child (yes I can be wrong, but to the point that even observations made about him or myself fall on deaf ears.) , and his ENFP chaotic transition is so great so fun, very nice. I just wanted to help him, but he just doesn't want out of his comfort zone. Oh well, sucks to be doorslammed. Ty chase, couldn't have solved all my social problems without you.
As an ISTJ I love how you effortlessly speak from one point to the next. So informative and kept my attention. Question though: What do I do when people don't believe what is objective is objective? I feel like I give amazing advice, but people never take it!!!!!
ouch this was harsh. thanks man. i got into astrology of all things last year and have spent tens of hours doing my research.. instead of putting the time to get better at programming which is what i go to school for. it feels like the things that i need to be doing that don't have a deadline are never the things i want to be doing. and i'm super guilty of reading fanfiction or watching tv shows and being able to recite what every characters last name was and their entire backstory fml
As an ISTJ, you're one of my distractions ;) this video did sting a little, in fact it totally prodded me out of my trivial mode, and probably for the greater good.
I’m always typed as INTJ and INFJ ... I know I’m an ISTJ ... secretly critical ... always fact searching . I literally study biblical theology, comparative religion and textual criticism. I feel I have an air of arrogance to feel like I’m smarter than everyone else . I can literally see people’s emotional intelligence. But even when someone states something is fact I ask why is fact ... and than go down that rabbit hole . Lol ... Sad thing it’s very true . All this knowledge and I’m literally hoarding it ...interesting on the fiction issue tho I won’t waste my time on fiction it seems like a waste of brain function. Great video !
Well, I am an INTJ female and i do that too sometimes especially when i obsess over a book or a movie character. I think this situation is common for IXTJ female.
Thinking I must be this one. Everything sounds dead on. How strange. Including sleep patterns.books. anime marathons.police academy. Accounting. Need 2 know details.plans.loyalty.loyalty tests. No surprises. No sharing personal data with everyone.no public praise.3 friends. People can't be trusted. Sometimes stop work and say "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT DA FCK IM EVEN DOING RIGHT NOW" . Overwhelmed. With data. 4got what goal. Always digging for verification. Never stopping ANYTHING until done. Never allowing anyone 2 break focus. No matter what. Prefer work alone. No teamwork b.s. Everyone must follow rules. Or else. No matter how small rule is. Everyone including my boss. It makes me crazy. Stressed when rules r broken.just text do not call. I rarely answer my phone. Cuz I can't take speaking 2 anyone. Relative or not
Lol most of this matches me too but I do break rules here and there if I see that they’re stupid. I also encourage others to break stupid rules too. But I do enforce other rules because I understand why those rules exist and I explain that to people as well.
The nonfiction vs fiction example you mentioned of the virtue and vice spectrum of ISTJs seems to be dead on. I need to regularly remember to force myself to focus on the nonfiction, i.e., replace the bad habit (when done too much) with a better one.
ISTJ here. I don’t read romance novels or fiction in general. (I actually used to write fanfiction though). I prefer reading nonfiction and fact collecting. Soap operas are totally unrealistic and a waste of my time. I would rather watch informational documentaries.
How easy is it for ISTJs to get disillusioned in their careers, especially if the workplace becomes very sloppy with their management from the higher ups in the company?
Ok, your comments about Italy and culture, you have intuitively picked up on something fascinating. Check out The Blue Zones by Dan Buettner. I have 5 of his books. He researched the world’s best practices in health, longevity, and medicine. These are the common elements of lifestyle, diet and outlook that have led to amazing quantity of years lived (centurions) but quality as well. His passion is to bring that to unhealthy American lifestyles and culture.
You seem pretty negative toward fiction, but fictional stories often have a way of getting to a person's heart in a way that non-fiction might not. I still remember some stories that revealed to me some of my own character flaws, because you can find yourself and live inside the story - and then get pulled back to see what's happening in a more objective manner. Not sure I said that very well, but stories are important to me, and I don't think they have to have occurred (with all the specific details) to reveal archetypal truth.
I agree. While the majority of my reading is nonfiction, I do occasionally enjoy fiction books (though not as trivial as romance novels!) & can oftentimes learn more about myself & how I should be living in this world from those stories. Specifically, Ted Dekker's books are really good at doing this for me.
I completely get what your saying and a healthy balance is the best. When your already a so called " walking library of Alexandria " Constantly adding new info.. down time with a fiction novel can be very healthy.
source: Si Hero, Library Alexandria mode, remember a lot of reference points can make them very objective. Lack of Fi can actually remove the factor of emotional bias.
Joseph its an evaluation problem 18:25. You have me awake for a moment but i have looked at the books and it's not looking good. Should i work on the scope of local problems? should i climb in power to get more capacity for change? If whats needed could easily be identified sure, i could go at the task in the right way and reslve it and sometimes we have things that come up that can be focused on. But for the majority of the time after the right amount of information has been collected how can i not be defeatist and nihilistic? The rocks of the earth have always been satified before and they will also be tomorrow. Im reading the romance novel because the evaluations are completed and the amount of drastic change needed is hard to look at in the mirror. If i take what needs to be done seriously id have to cry for a while first in an attempt to face myself and i really dont feel like it. So the first goal is to identify what needs to be done that is rationally acceptable to put time towards. I'll try Joseph. For some reason i just feel lethargic. It's almost comedy scene. Looking at the ISTJ relaxing on the couch, exclaim to them that they need to try and you may trigger them right into anger because you have broken their wall down about not taking anything seriously anymore because it's all too hard. I just don't know how to keep the effort engine running.
I'm an istj....no 👎 to the romance books..or movies for that matter..for many reason. First time I ever heard that comment. I like mystery novels and if you ever catch me watching a romantic movie, its because my intj hubby put it on..and I have to pretend to be interested...lol. I also enjoy true crime stories, and documentaries on topics I'm interested it.
Still don’t know but I think I’m an ISTJ... Just wanted to say...the world will still be here wether I help it or not. And whatever happens is probably meant to happen. And it really doesn’t matter what specifically happens in the future because anything that happens is what is happening. What have I learned from building my library through research and also verifying with my own experience? Change is the only constant, and no one can reliably predict the future. So why try and force a specific outcome? Just do what you want and enjoy the ride. That doesn’t mean that I am hedonistic or selfish, far from it. I’m a minimalist who enjoys helping others improve their own experience of life. I have no family of my own but I still think about saving and investing my money to leave to my siblings and their children. BUT, through research, I’ve found that generational wealth is usually squandered within two to three generations anyway. So again, what’s the point in building an empire for my family if it’s most likely to be lost soon after? The past repeats, remember? So now I’m more focused on a shorter future timeline. Maybe I’ll just save enough for the very next generation, and they’ll have to learn to work and save for their children.
I think I'm an INFP but I DEFINITELY have this virtue and vice. I know I share the same functions as ISTJ, is this why? Are objectivity and trivialism my secondary or tertiary virtue and vice?
You look very healthy in this video. I am still watching/ Us introverts have a difficult time talking to extroverts but are very concise. And if you extroverts also listened we'd ask you for your thoughts. But you extroverts are not great listeners. So we stop trying to be - when you ignore me I feel hurt; that hurt demotivates me.
@@CSJoseph I find it difficult to communicate but I keep trying. My lack of ability to talk easily and the reaction of some extroverts demotivates me. I wasn't really talking about you just extroverts in general. I think I should be a bit less sensitive and keep trying. Thanks for the reply and sorry for any confusion I caused to you.
Amazing videos and insights. Thanks for all of the work you're putting into this. Any comments on the differences between ISTJs and INFPs? I have a hard time determining whether I'm one or the other because of the Fi-Si loops. I imagine you'll eventually be making a video on this subject. I wonder whether I spend too much time in creative mode or if my goals of having routine/efficiency are an ambition that takes too much of my energy to maintain.
I'm an ISTJ and have never read a novel besides the dumb ones they make you read in HS. Plus like you said ISTJ's have their own little world so why would we care about anyone else's problems? As long as someone works 9-5, pays the Bill's, and retires then they have done enough for society. I for example love to collect beer bottles and take pride in my ability to obtain ones from different regions of the US. It is a stupid habit, but I never drive drunk, need to make friends, and am happy being alone all the time. I'm a low maintenance person and that is the the best possible thing for society after all of this stupid political drama/sjw stuff.
I was just confused at the point you made of ISTJ's trying to make changes to society they find important. How can you feel ISTJ's should use their skills to better society or correct others mistakes? Cause most ISTJ's just want to be invisible and not noticed in public. Wanting someone to change someone's personality isn't reasonable and ISTJ's wont change. ESTJ's may do this since it is their nature, but not ISTJ's. Introverts are that way for a reason so I think people should let them live in their own little world cause they don't hurt anyone. I can use myself as an example cause my roommates in college never complained about me because I never talked, complained, or hung out with them and they didnt have anything to hate me for. I can't think of anyone ever saying he doesn't he/she doesnt talk enough, but I often hear he/she talks too much. Also just think how good efficient the world would be if everyone was self centered and did all they could to take care of themselves so no one would ever need help.
Describes my mother perfectly. At first I thought she was an ISFJ because of her impossibly high moral standards. What she needs to do is stop reading and believing the Bible and read philosophy and self-help books instead. She needs to stop complaining to her children that she is a personal accountant/workhorse for her husband (an ESTP, what a surprise!) and get a divorce. But she is too devoted to the Bible and will never have the guts to do anything about her miserable marriage. Fortunately, I got her to stop being so "devoted" to me when I told her all the ways in which she wronged me as a child (Fe trickster) via my aunts. I told her she should be working on improving herself and her dying marriage instead of spending (wasting) her time managing my adult life. She confirmed her Ti critic and became wiser by consulting more credentialed, professionals than me - her sisters. So far it's working. :) I am just seeing this video and the one on ISTJs, but I didn't know I did exactly what I needed to do...my aunts are the problem now. Spies. Both of them.
Who said they will stop doing what they like and take responsibility! They're selfish and what they're doing is a sanctuary thing and they're doing the right thing. For them. It's not Si parent - Fi inferior like estj => who thinks if I don't stand up for this, if I don't take responsibility then I'm bad
lol on romance novels & soap operas! the istj I know loves obscure bizarre b-movie romances. it's her guilty pleasure. She's definitely a wealth of knowledge . It's an interesting tip to motivate them through threatening their comfort..I think pushing social change would be a hard thing because of the lack of tact when dealing with people.
C.S. Joseph and also I have a question about this relationship Which is why have you gone to the unconscious part to say that you wouldn't recommend this relationship ? Don't you think that there are some aspects of compatibility in this relationship and they complete each other in the conscious part somehow ?
Aseel Abukhader no not at all. In fact this would be a relationship based on competition and one upping each other. Sexually speaking, it would be a mess because who will provide the Se for the Si?
Good to have you back mate. I'm working on developing my subconscious which is ISTJ. Do you suggest developing the shadow or subconscious first?. Your videos have inspired me to see self development more like a pyramid which has the ego at the base then the subconscious then shadow and the superego at the top. Also, what's your IG?
Michael F I always recommend subconscious first. All you need to do to start developing it is to get over your insecurities and aspire to be more than you are now. My IG is cs.joseph
16:24 four years old? Wow, they really can live life quickly if during four years, they noticed that they wasted 25 years of their life. Well, back to the topic, thanks for the video and the great content !
Would watching this video be a trivial use of my time or not... like surly there are better uses of my time. I could learn a language, go work out, attempt to network on campus, read a text book, but psychology, its all in good fun, but this is very much truth based and not fact based. People are far too dynamic. I should probably stop watching these videos.
C.S. Joseph C.S. Joseph to be perfectly honest, I have trouble trusting typology. Part of me is highly intrigued, after all I do have a bit of an obsession with sorting people and figuring myself out, but many times it feels almost too much like a glorified variant of astrology. For which it seems vague descriptions lend us to try to understand ourselves by latching onto these vague statements, and rather than any true discovery, we seem to try to conform ourselves into these profiles. Of course to combat this all, I end up digging in a little deeper, avoiding quizzes, and trying to look up functions. It’s all in good fun, but I am forever the skeptic. The truth that I do find this all in good fun leads me to question it’s legitimacy as a productive past time. After all, in the past couple hours I went for a run, got lunch, and attended a meeting. Surely my time would be better well spent then watching a UA-cam video (or 20), and yet I seem to be constantly drawn to this series. People are very dynamic. Although I do try to understand them like they’re puzzles, there’s a degree in which I find trying to categorize them to be a fools errand. Understand this is a criticism on myself, not your videos for which I mostly enjoy. People are shaped by so many factors, even if you understand their nature, to predict their actions it would seem to be more confident you would need to understand how life has shaped them, and culture. The students of psychology in itself seems to be at conflict with each other over Mbti, human metrics, typology, and jungian theory, and because of this, a person such as myself who focuses my research efforts on other fields, and only engages in human psychology for fun, is prone to have their doubts. I understand your viewpoints in asking someone with credentials when the opportunity for independent research is available, but it’s not a matter of being lazy, it’s a matter being busy, and allocating your time more efficiently... and I’ve got to say, in closing, this whole comment feels like I’m not making an effective use of my time, which is odd. My brain is confused. Good day sir, thank you for your insights and seminars.
From what you said, it sounded like ISTJs are unaware of their ability to be objective when their trivia is overused. It sounded as if you were saying that they can get so confident of their poor use in objectivity that it gets to the point of obviously destroying the people around them with the power they possess. And that it takes a cut throat person who has taken the time to see and analysing and bring it to them with no warning to motivate them in a way. It looks like ISTJs need a bit of the parenting from ruthless types as in holding a child accountable for making the bed everyday to develop strong enough grit to become mentally strong in the world. That it's best for ISTJs to know when to tone it down with what they know and to dive into the perspectives of other types to gain a devil's advocate way of looking at the situation and maintain a childlike approach to the world at the same time through going back to fiction. Does this make sense? Am I making sense?
@@shanpurble Criticism to ISTJ is that "Hey you gather all this information, but only %5 of it is relevant to the end goal... So take this report, burn it, and go generate the report I asked for... Do you understand?" Then they will reflect, take it to heart, and learn that they lost sight of the end goal. New strategy in writing the report, they will self-criticize if all information in the report to much sure it serves a purpose. That is my guess of what he means, or at least that is what has happened to work in the past.
@@Pooh0Bear8 I think that I get what you're saying. Are you saying that ISTJ's need to keep mastering their knowledge to not be left behind or be mislead in order to trust themselves more through sourcing relevant information?
C.S. Joseph Haha no no no. I was half joking. I actually doubt we've ran into each other; SJ alone is a big place and I'm a hermit. You do look familiar, and initially I couldn't figure out why, but I think it's mostly that you bear a resemblance to an old friend.
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I feel like you know who I am and you were waiting for me to watch this video, feel exposed and ashamed of my behavior, so that I could get my shit together and finally start spending my time doing more productive things. Thanks.
Wow, this is so true, I feel very exposed... I don't read romance novels but I find myself stuck in watching useless online videos (for example, recently I am stuck in this Jungian Psychology trivial loop...). The problem is UA-cam and other platforms are designed to keep you on them, so it keeps suggesting videos with clickbait titles directed at my thirst of knowledge. I always try to hide it when I get stuck in these loops and can confirm that "exposing" me in it does make me break off the loop for a bit. I wish I had the ability to break it myself.
Only once in a few weeks I push myself into learning more useful and practical stuff, like programming and stuff like that
Same here XD. But these videos I think are important for us to know ourselves objectively, to help ourselves to maximize our potentials since we know what we're good and bad at, using these facts, we know what to do next, what may come in the future and how to manage it. Just don't make them trivial. PS: I'm also learning programming (VBA) and still in the "zone". I'd been in your shoes though. Good luck!
@@WeisSchwarz I like these videos as it helps me learn why I scare others and how to dampen it. Its much more easily achieved in my 30s but the reflection to my 20s is hilarious.. ~ estj
Istj don’t like to be confronted though. Especially when it comes to emotions
Do how do you deal with them on an emotional level?
@@goodvibesonly7188 Loyalty, respect, appreciation, admiration. Creating good experiences for them. Courteously putting aside your own preference to accommodate their need for traditional occasions (every year if possible).
It's really annoying for me as an infj or estp.
Why?
It really depends on how you confront them. ISTJ’s want to be comfortable so you need to find that balance where they are comfortable and also ready to listen to what you have to say to them.
When I have to confront my istj friends I do it when we’re a long together and joking around. I keep it light and funny. But at the same time making him uncomfortable enough that he notices he needs to make a change.
In their communication style they are direct and responding. So you need to be direct while also asking the right questions. IE
Bro you’ve been putting on weight(direct). What are you going to do when you have to buy all your clothes again in XXL(questions so he can think and respond)? Oh why don’t you just fix your diet and lose weight instead. (Direct)
What’s most important when confronting istjs is asking the right questions to get them to be more objective.
This worked on my friend because I know he’s cheap af and does not want to buy new clothes in a new size. And I’m my experience a lot of the istjs I know are very cheap haha
Ok, you just triggered me in a positive way, after watching lots of your videos i realize that i was in the trivial loop. Thanks mate.
My usual entertainment schedule is history docs, biography books, retro style video games and tv shows.
Learning a lot about myself from your content.
Just because I read smutty romance novels (or smutty fanfiction in my case) late at night doesn't mean I'm wasting my time. I just.....I don't have to justify my reasoning LOL.
I didn't take offense to that remark, but I physically cringed when you started talking about the romance novels since I'm very guilty of indulging in them.v
My roommate is an ISTJ. Man is that guy stuck so far into his vice it's not even funny. His Te parent won't consider my Ti child (yes I can be wrong, but to the point that even observations made about him or myself fall on deaf ears.) , and his ENFP chaotic transition is so great so fun, very nice. I just wanted to help him, but he just doesn't want out of his comfort zone. Oh well, sucks to be doorslammed.
Ty chase, couldn't have solved all my social problems without you.
As an ISTJ I love how you effortlessly speak from one point to the next. So informative and kept my attention.
Question though: What do I do when people don't believe what is objective is objective? I feel like I give amazing advice, but people never take it!!!!!
These virtue and vice vids are phenomenal. In the words of Brittany Spears, “gimme more”.. 😂😂😂
adrienne bartlett I got more coming!
ouch this was harsh. thanks man.
i got into astrology of all things last year and have spent tens of hours doing my research.. instead of putting the time to get better at programming which is what i go to school for. it feels like the things that i need to be doing that don't have a deadline are never the things i want to be doing.
and i'm super guilty of reading fanfiction or watching tv shows and being able to recite what every characters last name was and their entire backstory fml
Aaannnd this is why I know way to many facts about the Kardashians 🤦 and all the lyrics to the macarena🤦🤦🤦🤦
As an ISTJ, you're one of my distractions ;)
this video did sting a little, in fact it totally prodded me out of my trivial mode, and probably for the greater good.
Ouch! Thank you for the dressing down.
I’m always typed as INTJ and INFJ ... I know I’m an ISTJ ... secretly critical ... always fact searching . I literally study biblical theology, comparative religion and textual criticism. I feel I have an air of arrogance to feel like I’m smarter than everyone else . I can literally see people’s emotional intelligence. But even when someone states something is fact I ask why is fact ... and than go down that rabbit hole . Lol ... Sad thing it’s very true . All this knowledge and I’m literally hoarding it ...interesting on the fiction issue tho I won’t waste my time on fiction it seems like a waste of brain function. Great video !
I need this on repeat everyday.... Talk about motivation. Great video
I'm not going to lie, the entire lecture I was looking for Papafragas Beach photos to add to my Greece board on Pinterest.
This man is stressing me out at a 15 year old istj
Ouch. Truth hurts.
istj majoring in graphic design, now i want to kms
edit: i have flashbacks of me reading fanfiction until 2 am and i feel horrible lol
I know an ISTJ make used to always read erotic stories in his teens on the internet. So you could be correct there 😂
This is so true it hurts. Thank you, Chase, for your amazing lectures. ISTJ.
P.S. What type was Steve Jobs? (I know it's not ISTJ :) )
ENTP
@@CSJoseph Interesting I thought he was INTJ because only geniuses can be INTJ
@@hamilton4969 he died of cancer and did vegeterian carrot smoothie cleanses. not too bright
Well, I am an INTJ female and i do that too sometimes especially when i obsess over a book or a movie character. I think this situation is common for IXTJ female.
Thinking I must be this one. Everything sounds dead on. How strange. Including sleep patterns.books. anime marathons.police academy. Accounting. Need 2 know details.plans.loyalty.loyalty tests. No surprises. No sharing personal data with everyone.no public praise.3 friends. People can't be trusted. Sometimes stop work and say "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT DA FCK IM EVEN DOING RIGHT NOW" . Overwhelmed. With data. 4got what goal. Always digging for verification. Never stopping ANYTHING until done. Never allowing anyone 2 break focus. No matter what. Prefer work alone. No teamwork b.s. Everyone must follow rules. Or else. No matter how small rule is. Everyone including my boss. It makes me crazy. Stressed when rules r broken.just text do not call. I rarely answer my phone. Cuz I can't take speaking 2 anyone. Relative or not
Lol most of this matches me too but I do break rules here and there if I see that they’re stupid. I also encourage others to break stupid rules too. But I do enforce other rules because I understand why those rules exist and I explain that to people as well.
The nonfiction vs fiction example you mentioned of the virtue and vice spectrum of ISTJs seems to be dead on. I need to regularly remember to force myself to focus on the nonfiction, i.e., replace the bad habit (when done too much) with a better one.
ISTJ here. I don’t read romance novels or fiction in general. (I actually used to write fanfiction though). I prefer reading nonfiction and fact collecting. Soap operas are totally unrealistic and a waste of my time. I would rather watch informational documentaries.
How easy is it for ISTJs to get disillusioned in their careers, especially if the workplace becomes very sloppy with their management from the higher ups in the company?
it depends but eventually STJs look around and realize "this isn't good for my future". The sooner they do, the better off they are.
I would say immersion and alienation as well are some other virtues and vices
To quote Austin Powers: ''Ouch, baby!......very ouch''
What about ISTJs who have had their knowledge rejected due to their lack of social skills and feel that gathering knowledge doesn't do much?
Ok, your comments about Italy and culture, you have intuitively picked up on something fascinating. Check out The Blue Zones by Dan Buettner. I have 5 of his books. He researched the world’s best practices in health, longevity, and medicine. These are the common elements of lifestyle, diet and outlook that have led to amazing quantity of years lived (centurions) but quality as well. His passion is to bring that to unhealthy American lifestyles and culture.
My intp brother is always making feel bad about the amount of useless info I have gathered. Hahaha
Every istj should have one intp near.
idk my dad is istj and he all the time say i am lazy all the time so ye idk if intp really want that tho-intp 4w5
Thank you for your videos and knowledge of the mbti personalities
You seem pretty negative toward fiction, but fictional stories often have a way of getting to a person's heart in a way that non-fiction might not. I still remember some stories that revealed to me some of my own character flaws, because you can find yourself and live inside the story - and then get pulled back to see what's happening in a more objective manner. Not sure I said that very well, but stories are important to me, and I don't think they have to have occurred (with all the specific details) to reveal archetypal truth.
I am against reading only or a majority of fiction.
I agree. While the majority of my reading is nonfiction, I do occasionally enjoy fiction books (though not as trivial as romance novels!) & can oftentimes learn more about myself & how I should be living in this world from those stories. Specifically, Ted Dekker's books are really good at doing this for me.
same thing can be said for anime
I completely get what your saying and a healthy balance is the best. When your already a so called " walking library of Alexandria " Constantly adding new info.. down time with a fiction novel can be very healthy.
source: Si Hero, Library Alexandria mode, remember a lot of reference points can make them very objective. Lack of Fi can actually remove the factor of emotional bias.
Its not our responsibility😂😑
Joseph its an evaluation problem 18:25. You have me awake for a moment but i have looked at the books and it's not looking good. Should i work on the scope of local problems? should i climb in power to get more capacity for change?
If whats needed could easily be identified sure, i could go at the task in the right way and reslve it and sometimes we have things that come up that can be focused on.
But for the majority of the time after the right amount of information has been collected how can i not be defeatist and nihilistic? The rocks of the earth have always been satified before and they will also be tomorrow. Im reading the romance novel because the evaluations are completed and the amount of drastic change needed is hard to look at in the mirror.
If i take what needs to be done seriously id have to cry for a while first in an attempt to face myself and i really dont feel like it.
So the first goal is to identify what needs to be done that is rationally acceptable to put time towards.
I'll try Joseph. For some reason i just feel lethargic.
It's almost comedy scene. Looking at the ISTJ relaxing on the couch, exclaim to them that they need to try and you may trigger them right into anger because you have broken their wall down about not taking anything seriously anymore because it's all too hard.
I just don't know how to keep the effort engine running.
I'm an istj....no 👎 to the romance books..or movies for that matter..for many reason. First time I ever heard that comment. I like mystery novels and if you ever catch me watching a romantic movie, its because my intj hubby put it on..and I have to pretend to be interested...lol. I also enjoy true crime stories, and documentaries on topics I'm interested it.
Lol my friend listens to those true crime podcasts all the time. Do you listen to those? Idk if she’s an ISTJ but she’s obsessed.
True Crime is how I relax, lol.
Lol my mom os istj with BA in graphic design had that career for like 4yrs. Deliver for fedex now
Still don’t know but I think I’m an ISTJ...
Just wanted to say...the world will still be here wether I help it or not. And whatever happens is probably meant to happen. And it really doesn’t matter what specifically happens in the future because anything that happens is what is happening. What have I learned from building my library through research and also verifying with my own experience? Change is the only constant, and no one can reliably predict the future. So why try and force a specific outcome? Just do what you want and enjoy the ride. That doesn’t mean that I am hedonistic or selfish, far from it. I’m a minimalist who enjoys helping others improve their own experience of life. I have no family of my own but I still think about saving and investing my money to leave to my siblings and their children. BUT, through research, I’ve found that generational wealth is usually squandered within two to three generations anyway. So again, what’s the point in building an empire for my family if it’s most likely to be lost soon after? The past repeats, remember? So now I’m more focused on a shorter future timeline. Maybe I’ll just save enough for the very next generation, and they’ll have to learn to work and save for their children.
but one's story is the result of their believe
and I don't function through chaos
but through not lined stimulation
Istj female here. I feel attacked 🤣
Treat Astrology, Enneagram, MBTI, and Numerology as deep knowledge instead of dating trend.
Astrology ??
I love my 80s love rock music
Thats so the worst on that is I begin to believe myself that all I watch going to serve me one day
I think I'm an INFP but I DEFINITELY have this virtue and vice. I know I share the same functions as ISTJ, is this why? Are objectivity and trivialism my secondary or tertiary virtue and vice?
yes
Same. I'm in a Te-Si loop just researching trivially info. - ENFP
This is... this is my mom in 19 and a half minutes!
You look very healthy in this video. I am still watching/
Us introverts have a difficult time talking to extroverts but are very concise. And if you extroverts also listened we'd ask you for your thoughts. But you extroverts are not great listeners. So we stop trying to be - when you ignore me I feel hurt; that hurt demotivates me.
sorry? I guess? I dont see how I am not listening to you.
@@CSJoseph I find it difficult to communicate but I keep trying. My lack of ability to talk easily and the reaction of some extroverts demotivates me. I wasn't really talking about you just extroverts in general. I think I should be a bit less sensitive and keep trying. Thanks for the reply and sorry for any confusion I caused to you.
Amazing videos and insights. Thanks for all of the work you're putting into this.
Any comments on the differences between ISTJs and INFPs? I have a hard time determining whether I'm one or the other because of the Fi-Si loops. I imagine you'll eventually be making a video on this subject. I wonder whether I spend too much time in creative mode or if my goals of having routine/efficiency are an ambition that takes too much of my energy to maintain.
tim s yes I will have lectures on the quadras
Mr Joseph u were so handsome here!
I'm an ISTJ and have never read a novel besides the dumb ones they make you read in HS. Plus like you said ISTJ's have their own little world so why would we care about anyone else's problems? As long as someone works 9-5, pays the Bill's, and retires then they have done enough for society. I for example love to collect beer bottles and take pride in my ability to obtain ones from different regions of the US. It is a stupid habit, but I never drive drunk, need to make friends, and am happy being alone all the time. I'm a low maintenance person and that is the the best possible thing for society after all of this stupid political drama/sjw stuff.
Well said.
I was just confused at the point you made of ISTJ's trying to make changes to society they find important. How can you feel ISTJ's should use their skills to better society or correct others mistakes? Cause most ISTJ's just want to be invisible and not noticed in public. Wanting someone to change someone's personality isn't reasonable and ISTJ's wont change. ESTJ's may do this since it is their nature, but not ISTJ's. Introverts are that way for a reason so I think people should let them live in their own little world cause they don't hurt anyone. I can use myself as an example cause my roommates in college never complained about me because I never talked, complained, or hung out with them and they didnt have anything to hate me for. I can't think of anyone ever saying he doesn't he/she doesnt talk enough, but I often hear he/she talks too much. Also just think how good efficient the world would be if everyone was self centered and did all they could to take care of themselves so no one would ever need help.
I don’t watch tv but I do watch cs Joseph 😂 videos
Describes my mother perfectly. At first I thought she was an ISFJ because of her impossibly high moral standards. What she needs to do is stop reading and believing the Bible and read philosophy and self-help books instead. She needs to stop complaining to her children that she is a personal accountant/workhorse for her husband (an ESTP, what a surprise!) and get a divorce. But she is too devoted to the Bible and will never have the guts to do anything about her miserable marriage. Fortunately, I got her to stop being so "devoted" to me when I told her all the ways in which she wronged me as a child (Fe trickster) via my aunts. I told her she should be working on improving herself and her dying marriage instead of spending (wasting) her time managing my adult life. She confirmed her Ti critic and became wiser by consulting more credentialed, professionals than me - her sisters. So far it's working. :) I am just seeing this video and the one on ISTJs, but I didn't know I did exactly what I needed to do...my aunts are the problem now. Spies. Both of them.
Who said they will stop doing what they like and take responsibility! They're selfish and what they're doing is a sanctuary thing and they're doing the right thing. For them.
It's not Si parent - Fi inferior like estj => who thinks if I don't stand up for this, if I don't take responsibility then I'm bad
lol I know an ISTJ history professor, uncovering stories in the past
idk about other ppl but I watch reality tv to study social skills/human behaviour to improve myself
The Good Soldier Švejk looks like an ISTJ
lol on romance novels & soap operas! the istj I know loves obscure bizarre b-movie romances. it's her guilty pleasure. She's definitely a wealth of knowledge . It's an interesting tip to motivate them through threatening their comfort..I think pushing social change would be a hard thing because of the lack of tact when dealing with people.
Girl Blogger yes but knowing the truth can drive change in situations when a lack of tact is present. This UA-cam channel is proof of that phenomenon.
lol! :) it's a great channel
C.S. Joseph sorting Harlequin press novels was by far the worst aspect of Dewey decimal conversion
What do you think about the relationship between INFP and ISTJ? Is it working ?
Aseel Abukhader I wouldn’t recommend that
Se trickster is not ideal for Si hero
C.S. Joseph I wish to see lectures on the compatibility in relationships topic If you could do this please .
C.S. Joseph and also I have a question about this relationship
Which is why have you gone to the unconscious part to say that you wouldn't recommend this relationship ? Don't you think that there are some aspects of compatibility in this relationship and they complete each other in the conscious part somehow ?
Aseel Abukhader no not at all. In fact this would be a relationship based on competition and one upping each other. Sexually speaking, it would be a mess because who will provide the Se for the Si?
Good to have you back mate. I'm working on developing my subconscious which is ISTJ. Do you suggest developing the shadow or subconscious first?. Your videos have inspired me to see self development more like a pyramid which has the ego at the base then the subconscious then shadow and the superego at the top.
Also, what's your IG?
Michael F I always recommend subconscious first. All you need to do to start developing it is to get over your insecurities and aspire to be more than you are now. My IG is cs.joseph
What major do you recommend for an INFJ?
Business or real estate. The infj I know is very good at both.
@@Midnight_Rider96 Thank you!
I watch cleaning videos and true crime, lol. I could waste hours doing this.
Some parts that I later realize are garbage I tend to not pick up in the first place
16:24 four years old? Wow, they really can live life quickly if during four years, they noticed that they wasted 25 years of their life.
Well, back to the topic, thanks for the video and the great content !
Objective is synonym to edgy
dope
i think ISTP & ISTJ cant get along
lol... my parents....
Why do you think so?
@@simplebalanceastrologymay I ask how is their relationship going ?
Is Colin virtue & Kanye vice or vice versa?
So the istj's vice is basically the nerd emoji
Aren't ISTJS control instead of movement ? I can't see an ISTJ handling chaos.
they are movement... trust me.
Makes excellent lawyers, accountants
Overconsumes fiction in trivial,
Meant to examine and deliver the truth
Would watching this video be a trivial use of my time or not... like surly there are better uses of my time. I could learn a language, go work out, attempt to network on campus, read a text book, but psychology, its all in good fun, but this is very much truth based and not fact based. People are far too dynamic. I should probably stop watching these videos.
if they are far too dynamic for you to comprehend, then I recommend checking out some resources: Dr. John Beebe, Dr. Linda Berens. Thanks.
C.S. Joseph C.S. Joseph to be perfectly honest, I have trouble trusting typology. Part of me is highly intrigued, after all I do have a bit of an obsession with sorting people and figuring myself out, but many times it feels almost too much like a glorified variant of astrology. For which it seems vague descriptions lend us to try to understand ourselves by latching onto these vague statements, and rather than any true discovery, we seem to try to conform ourselves into these profiles.
Of course to combat this all, I end up digging in a little deeper, avoiding quizzes, and trying to look up functions. It’s all in good fun, but I am forever the skeptic.
The truth that I do find this all in good fun leads me to question it’s legitimacy as a productive past time. After all, in the past couple hours I went for a run, got lunch, and attended a meeting. Surely my time would be better well spent then watching a UA-cam video (or 20), and yet I seem to be constantly drawn to this series.
People are very dynamic. Although I do try to understand them like they’re puzzles, there’s a degree in which I find trying to categorize them to be a fools errand. Understand this is a criticism on myself, not your videos for which I mostly enjoy. People are shaped by so many factors, even if you understand their nature, to predict their actions it would seem to be more confident you would need to understand how life has shaped them, and culture. The students of psychology in itself seems to be at conflict with each other over Mbti, human metrics, typology, and jungian theory, and because of this, a person such as myself who focuses my research efforts on other fields, and only engages in human psychology for fun, is prone to have their doubts.
I understand your viewpoints in asking someone with credentials when the opportunity for independent research is available, but it’s not a matter of being lazy, it’s a matter being busy, and allocating your time more efficiently... and I’ve got to say, in closing, this whole comment feels like I’m not making an effective use of my time, which is odd. My brain is confused. Good day sir, thank you for your insights and seminars.
When it comes to ISTJs, you're saying the pain comes from people being consistently brutally honest with them?
can you provide more context for this question?
From what you said, it sounded like ISTJs are unaware of their ability to be objective when their trivia is overused. It sounded as if you were saying that they can get so confident of their poor use in objectivity that it gets to the point of obviously destroying the people around them with the power they possess. And that it takes a cut throat person who has taken the time to see and analysing and bring it to them with no warning to motivate them in a way. It looks like ISTJs need a bit of the parenting from ruthless types as in holding a child accountable for making the bed everyday to develop strong enough grit to become mentally strong in the world.
That it's best for ISTJs to know when to tone it down with what they know and to dive into the perspectives of other types to gain a devil's advocate way of looking at the situation and maintain a childlike approach to the world at the same time through going back to fiction.
Does this make sense? Am I making sense?
@@shanpurble
Criticism to ISTJ is that "Hey you gather all this information, but only %5 of it is relevant to the end goal... So take this report, burn it, and go generate the report I asked for... Do you understand?"
Then they will reflect, take it to heart, and learn that they lost sight of the end goal. New strategy in writing the report, they will self-criticize if all information in the report to much sure it serves a purpose.
That is my guess of what he means, or at least that is what has happened to work in the past.
@@Pooh0Bear8 I think that I get what you're saying. Are you saying that ISTJ's need to keep mastering their knowledge to not be left behind or be mislead in order to trust themselves more through sourcing relevant information?
Idk
12:10-14:10
But there’s so much stupid out there….
I guess I better get off UA-cam and stop watching cs Joseph videos lol😂 waisting all my time when I got this pile of laundry to wash and dishes
Interesting truth but I don't care about your subjectivity
I had no idea you were in Slicon Valley. I thought you looked somehow vaguely familiar! 😁
Heather Bryant that bad huh? Lol
C.S. Joseph Haha no no no. I was half joking. I actually doubt we've ran into each other; SJ alone is a big place and I'm a hermit. You do look familiar, and initially I couldn't figure out why, but I think it's mostly that you bear a resemblance to an old friend.
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