They likely cut out conventional prayer and replace it with their own form of worship; the worship of the manliest man ever, the Emperor, in the form hitting the gym.
@@jesseberg3271 It was even worse when they lost the ability to make protein powder. Now I have to settle for fookin drugs and combat stimulants, I'm not Lucius the Eternal I'm a S P E H C marine.
Alright Warsmith time: From a purely theoretical perspective we can consider that since the original base-stock of the Salamanders shows a 90% potential mutation rate it would make sense that Apothecaries from said chapters would do everything within their power to make certain the aspirants are able to A. survive the procedures B. continue to function and not devolve into howling monstrosities. Since the Black Dragons modify their organs, and since we have confirmation that Primaris Black Dragons still posses, bone blades, poison fangs, and cranial crests/horns. We can easily determine that it is not so much gene-seed damage, as much as it is purely a weaponized form of stable mutations. This, also allows us to build a functional theoretical, if the Storm Giants see a value in keeping a mutated organ functional, they would likely induce said mutations in order to enhance the chances of further victories. Warsmith Phobos Tir, Signing Off
I don’t remember the book name but it had the sisters of battle, salamanders, black dragons, and imperial guard. The other famous thing from that book was a dreadnought saluting a guardsmen commander and calling him brother. Not sure if it has appeared in other books though
In d&d the storm giants are the strongest of the giant race even boasting incredible strength. Probably their Chapter Master found somehow a old d&d monster manual and had an idea. XDDD
Vulkan was (Physically) the strongest of all Primarchs, so it would stand to reason that his "sons" are also at least a little bit stronger than other Astartes. That said, a mutation that enhances a quirk already present within the geneseed is absolutely reasonable.
In one of the heresy books he even pushed a fellblade aside for some citizens that were in a panic situation. Thats pretty insane strong. Loved that scene.
antigesum how exactly did he push it? Fellblades weigh 300-ish tons IIRC (though that could be wrong). The manner in which he pushed it could change a lot about how impressive this feat is. to give us a point of comparison, real world strongmen have pulled planes weighing 188.8 tons. I’d expect a regular, run of the mill astartes to be able to manage several times that *at least*. However, of course the plane was pulled, not pushed, and had wheels, not tracks, so it isn’t a perfect comparison. Was the fellblade he pushed still upright on its tracks? Was it knocked to its side? What terrain was it on? I really don’t see any of the primarchs, even the relatively weak ones, struggling to move a fellblade, unless there was something making it really extra difficult
Michael Harris we aren’t talking about angron here, and no he did not lift a titan. He managed to hold a titan for a brief moment. Any longer and he would have been paste. The fact he managed to even hold it for a moment is impressive enough, it doesn’t need exaggeration
@@zc8211 how i said it was one of the earlier hh books. Dont know the name. Was a crusade with him ( vulkan) and curze. The government has capitulated before them and were arrested in camps but some of curzes soldier werent' t satisfied with this arrangment so they tried to get some blood and trophies. So itcame to that emergency that the people try to get away from them pushing away fences etc even push to death, vulkan noticed this und from afar und that none of the marines/astras millitarum react so he run down the hill crashed into the fellblade blocking one of the entrances/exit and pushed him aside that the people can exit the camp and wouldnt be pushed todeath from the one after them. If it was slippery ground or anything else cant remember. But it was discribed that even vulkan came to his limits in this action even parts of his armor broke apart.
Storm giant: Artificer, my armor no longer fits. This is the third time this cycle. Artificer: .... Storm Giant: I have an idea Artificer, to self: Omnissiah preserve me... Storm Giant: What if you removed the arms, shoulder pads, and everything below mid-thigh? Artificer: So....you want me to make your power armor look like a muscle shirt and cutoffs? Storm Giant: Yea! Exactly! It'll be epic, brah. Artificer, to self: Merciful Emperor, that's the third one this week...
"Would not stress the tolerance of the Inquisition..." *Imperial Citizen who ticked off a Lady Inquisitor for looking at her for too long:* _"THEY HAVE TOLERANCE?!"_
I would just like to mention that the Primaris marines who fell to the curse of the wulfen never physically mutated, but lost control and charged into combat using their rifles as crude melee weapons. However they returned to sanity after the fight was over.
-Black skin ✅️ -Hates Xenos ✅️ -Loves to use Hammers ✅️ -Heat resistant ✅️ -Actually gives a shit to civilians ✅️ -Thinks guardsmen are cool ✅️ They're definitely the sons of Vulkan
@@MsAssking Doing great! Haven't been seen lately because of the Star Child gestation thing, but still. How's the bloody for the blood god gag been goin?
My hypothesis: the Emperor, knowing that gene-seed could not be made immutable, somehow set up the gene sequences in such a way that variations would become stable and would likely be a boon in combat. This is a natural variation. They're not submitting their gene-seed to Mars because it's their gene-seed, and they're not giving up any more than absolutely necessary.
They’re the children of ....Swollgal Dorn, 😝 Seriously though, they’re probably white scars. If it’s correct the Biscopeia also enhances speed, it could have been a happy accident.
Not to sound racist but they have black skin and red eyes which is a common trait as a result of Salamander gene seed and they're very much altruistic which they also share in common
I believe they are the sons of one of the two "lost" primarchs and that when they got founded they had some members from another chapter along with them, that they are using for the pure samples.
Here's something this video made me curious about, which might make for a good future topic: Have any loyalist chapters ever actually been purged over having gene-seed that was deemed "too impure?" I remember hearing that Sanguinius was concerned about such a thing happening to the Blood Angels if the Emperor ever found out about their red thirst, and that he implied that something similar might be related to the loss of one or both of the lost legions, but I've never heard of it happening anywhere in the admittedly somewhat light fluff-reading I've been doing.
I theorized they’re descended from the Iron Hands. I believe they manipulated their gene seed to become stronger in radical response to the rest of their chapter (and successors) focusing on strength-by-machine rather than what their primarch Ferrus intended, strength-by-flesh. Their symbol reminds me of the Clan Vurgaan symbol, of the Iron Hands. Their name, Storm Giants, could be a reference to the Storm Giants that Ferrus fought on Medusa or it could be a shoot-off from the Legion’s first name, Storm Walkers. The old Iron Hands and Medusans really do like storm motifs. Also, Ferrus Manus focused on the aspect of strength above anything else, this is even revealed in how he forged. He doesn’t make something with beauty or aesthetic in mind, only it’s functionality. He believed that humanity and his sons should improve their strength above all else, and supplant those who were weaker by forcing them out of positions of power within the Legion.
My Storm Giants have been part of Fabius Bile's great work, a hidden, sleeper chapter within the Imperium waiting for the time to strike at its heart. A purple star on the knee pad being a nod to their Emperor's Children heritage.
Question is the Imperium of man the mirror image of the Skaven Underempire. This is put in question due to the skaven having similar government structures to the Imperium including the council of thirteen which is practically a mirror image of the high lords of terra. And the Emperor and the Great Horned Rat are also similar due to them largely being inactive in the history of their races only ever acting or having significance in times of great conflict and dire situation for their children races. Along with very similar organizations. Such as the Adeptus Mechanicus being a mirror organization to clan Skyre. While the ecclesicary is a mirror image of The Gray Seers and Clan Pestilens. The Astra Militarum is also a mirror image of Clan Mors for being the main overall military force of their respective empires. The officio assassinorum is a mirror image of Clan Eshin for they are both the assassin of their empires. Clan Moulder is the Mirror image of the Adeptus Astartes for their creation of Rat Ogres and the Stormfiends widely argued as skaven space marines for their advanced armor and weaponry and strength and speed. And finally the inquisition and the Adeptus arbites are the mirror image of the gray seers due to their power, the fact they only follow the Great Horned Rat and that they are the only keeping any semblance of order in the under empire despite that literally being impossible.
My first thought is that the Storm Giants might be descended from the Death Guard. My second thought is that the Storm Giants have an experimental geneseed, like the chapters from the 21st founding. Perhaps a chimeric mix of Salamander and Death Guard geneseed. Perhaps they have have a bit Thunder Warrior or Custodes in their geenseed. They might be one of the experiments leading up to the creation of the Primaris geneseed. Either way, the high lords of Terra, the Adeptus Mechanicus maintainers of the geneseed tithe, and perhaps the Inquisition, would know the secret. This would explain the lack of any official action against the Storm Giants, and these groups and the chapter itself would want to keep the secret from other parts of the Imperial bureacracy - like random Adeptus Mechanicus researchers.
There’s a way to accurately determine if the storm giants and black dragons are a salamanders successor chapter, if their civilian casualty number is exactly zero then they are children of vulkan (or i suppose grand children would be more accurate)
2:07 - Those that share the Sisters of Battle's affinity with fire, but not their relaxed attitude towards collateral damage. | The Sons of Antaeus are more durable than most chapters, meaning that they're suspected Death Guard...then again, not much is known about the World Eaters gene-seed, other than how bad their brutish nature was before the Butcher's Nails and Khorne based Chaos corruption, for all we know, they might've got that from Angron...he also had some psychic ability. | 6:30 - Also the Blood Angels, while not displaying the Black Rage, they still have the Red Thirst, but it's more controllable. | 7:45 - Possibly chimeric gene-seed, a mix of Salamanders and Blood Angels.
Take note that the Emperor's thunder warriors are superior in strenght, size and physical durability and hardiness than astartes. Also notice how the Thunder warriors were referred to as the Thunder Giants as shown in the novel "The Last Church on Terra". I know that such a thing may sound coincedental in terms of the names Thunder Giants and Storm giants being similar, but they are most similar in terms of physical attributes. You must also acknowledge that the surviving Thunder Warriors in the Outcast Dead were able to stop their genetic degredation using space marine geneseed. Perhaps the Storm giants were founded upon the surviving Thunder Warriors in the story, the adeptus mechanicus using both the creation methods of thunder warriors and astartes to create the Storm Giants chapter.
Are there Astartes chapters that have no genetic connection to the Emperor at all? Two possible sources of these types of chapters are: First, the warp, created for whatever reason the warp could come up with. The source may or may not be ruinous powers. Second, a future society might try to reinforce the Emperor. This may or may not be humanity, but someone who wishes to influence the past.
There is also a possibility if only a really slight one. That the Storm Giants are the decendands of either the 2nd or 11th Legion. In the short story " The Chamber at the end of memory " its revealed that both the lost legions where officially disbanded and their Primarchs punished, but that the Legionaires themselves are deemed innocent by both Guilliman and Dorn - with both arguing heaivly to spare the soldiers. This resulted in primarily the Imperial Fist and Ultramarines adopting the 2nd and 11th legionaires as their own, with impliation that the other Legions may have been receiving a few companies aswell. Given that all Legions have one or more inherent inbuild strengths ( World Eaters and Sons of Horus being inherentily more direct and agressive , Imperial Fist having an near instictive understanding about defensive work and vice versa the Iron Warriors for Siege craft, the Word Bearers a beyond religiouse loyality to what ever they tie themselves in etc etc ) it would make sense having a Legion that has its theme be strenght, where for example the Emperors Children and Raven Guards theme is grace and agility
I usually watch strongman videos to get “”up” when I exercise...Eddie Hall’s 500 kg deadlift is a favourite. Now, considering all the resistance training I do, this video is a prime motivator for me.
Me: Could it be possible that the source of the gene seeds are sourced from the two legions known as the Lost and purged? Inquisitor: HERETIC *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
That's actually really interesting. I had no idea there was a chapter of space marine with super strength. Does anyone know if there's a book about them or something similar?
There's precious little lore about this particular chapter. Most of their lore comes from the 8th ed Space Marine codex (second version) and Imperial Armour volume 2.
Is there any possibility of the enhanced strength coming from unsanctioned alterations to their power armor rather than their geneseed? I mean, for them to flat out deny the petition to study them could be more out of concern over how quickly the Mechanicis would notice tinkered power armor than anything else. Plus we already know how big a taboo it is to change anything from the templates.
@@Gormathius Thanks :) The idea came from how many suspect them to be a successor chapter of the Salamanders (which to be fair does make mutation of the geneseed plausible as well). Given how the Salamanders are the undisputed master craftsmen of the Space Marines, it wasn't that big a leap in logic to imagine them doing field repairs or upgrades to their armor due to having an affinity for crafting. Now, this would make the armor stronger, but it would also be extremely easy to prove since the specs for power armor are rather well known by this point. If they were to be investigated, just as a formality their gear would get spot checked, and, well, yeah.
The real story: A group of friendly Storm Giants were helping with moving styrofoam props for a play. A clan of orks witnessed this, mistook the props for real rock and thought «Dem’z da strongest beakies we’z eva seen!»
Why does it have to be directly related to the gene-seed? Perhaps they are using unsanctioned cybernetic enhancements based on Xenos technology. The gene-seed might be the most vital component in the creation of an Astartes, but it isn't the only possible factor in every abnormality found in a chapter's marines. As for why the use of technology would make the chapter hesitant to share their gene-seed with the Adeptus Mechanicus, there could be any number of reasons from seeing the request as a personal insult to the honour and integrity of the chapter or a flaw in the gene-seed unrelated to their strength. I know I'm just speculating here, but I don't want other possibilities to go unmentioned.
Also forgot the book Battle of the Fang which showed a Runesmith altering the DNA of the geneseed so as to avoid the Curse of the Wulfen. In fact, it is the reason why Magnus invades the Aett so as to destroy the experiment.
Successful raven guard rapture project chapter? I'm surprised nobody considered this, or even alpha legion since on average their marines are already larger
Didn't the fourth edition space marine codex feature an apothecary tracking the development of a class of neophytes and remarking on a mutation of one recruit's biscopea resulting in unending muscle development, eventually killing the recruit, prompting the apothecary to claim he would study the mutation to determine if it was possible to increase a space marine's strength farther by farther breeding the mutant geneseed?
Do you suppose that a marine has ever existed that was simply to large to fit into armor? I remember Abaddon was a giant of a marine but he could still fit on his Terminator armor.
Since it also affects Primaris, it seems unlikely it is genetic. More likely something like Xenos Tech. Maybe a low leven warp influnece? And there is a good reason to withhold the geneseed for this: If it turns out to not be Geneseed based, way bigger questions *will* be asked. The oditiy with the Primaris could simply be a case of them adapting to the Chapters culture of "strenght maters most". Maybe they simply go to the gym more often?
As for the chance of them "randomly" developing a beneficial Mutation. It is about the same as: - The Council of Nikea being held on planet Nikea, giving it a name very similar to the Council of Nicea: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea - the chance for any of the Primarchs and their Sons to developing: Dragonlike, Wolflike, Vampire Like and Birdlike traits. All in perfect matching to their name. - about half of every important characters names
The idea that the Storm Giants are tampering with their geneseed is plausible, but something tells me that it isn't what prohibits them from submitting to the inquiries of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Relations between the cult and the Astartes are unstable, at best. I'd say they could possibly be from either the 2nd or the 11th legion's geneseed, and refuse to have their geneseed further inspected under threat of extermination. The enhanced strength could simply be a byproduct of their forgotten Primarch.
that table of defiances gene seed probability may be very old and not quite accurate; many sources says the exact opposite, that except for the ebony skin and red eyes the salamander gene seed is stable... my guess is that someone played with the gene seed of the salamanders and the space wolf to create something in between... the name storm giants is very vikinglike but they are suspected salamanders successors
A random Storm Giant :
No brah, we ain't strong, you're weak. Do you even lift, brah?
They likely cut out conventional prayer and replace it with their own form of worship; the worship of the manliest man ever, the Emperor, in the form hitting the gym.
And that should be how they speak :)
@@chosenrubric7308 Sly Marbo is already a living Saint and is the manliest man other than the Man Emperor of Mankind.
Oh my goodness this comment made me laugh so damn hard.
@@chosenrubric7308
Also librarians lifting and flexing.... WITH MIND BULLETS
"Redesign the armor again. My muscles are too big.. again."
The storm giants don't skip gym days, and live on a high protein diet.
The chad bro surfer outback survival Marines.
@@jesseberg3271 It was even worse when they lost the ability to make protein powder. Now I have to settle for fookin drugs and combat stimulants, I'm not Lucius the Eternal I'm a S P E H C marine.
conan263 Unless you’re a Raven Guard. Then it’s your bread and fucking butter.
@conan263 corax may have something to say about this brother.
every day is leg day at their hq
Storm Giant: Does thou even lift bro?
Does thou even hoist brethren?
@@Oltongin "Dost* thou even hoist brethren?"
@@empireempire3545 I do
Brethren before whenches
Alright Warsmith time: From a purely theoretical perspective we can consider that since the original base-stock of the Salamanders shows a 90% potential mutation rate it would make sense that Apothecaries from said chapters would do everything within their power to make certain the aspirants are able to A. survive the procedures B. continue to function and not devolve into howling monstrosities.
Since the Black Dragons modify their organs, and since we have confirmation that Primaris Black Dragons still posses, bone blades, poison fangs, and cranial crests/horns. We can easily determine that it is not so much gene-seed damage, as much as it is purely a weaponized form of stable mutations.
This, also allows us to build a functional theoretical, if the Storm Giants see a value in keeping a mutated organ functional, they would likely induce said mutations in order to enhance the chances of further victories.
Warsmith Phobos Tir, Signing Off
I like this theory
also we know from a practical stand point the salamanders do have successors, it would make some sense
I don’t remember the book name but it had the sisters of battle, salamanders, black dragons, and imperial guard.
The other famous thing from that book was a dreadnought saluting a guardsmen commander and calling him brother.
Not sure if it has appeared in other books though
@@Brandelwyn lol I am assuming you've been reading the Tales of Ultramar/Solar Knights/Hive Wars
My thoughts: however they're doing it, they can keep on doing it unless it's some traitorous shit.
In d&d the storm giants are the strongest of the giant race even boasting incredible strength. Probably their Chapter Master found somehow a old d&d monster manual and had an idea. XDDD
You never know...
The inquisition is probably gonna say being too swole is a crime.
Alan Merino Considering they utilize power armor. You wouldn’t be very far off with your assumption.
Ogryn : Errr. Me no heresy.
"Is your armor even activated, Marine?" -Inquisitor
*Sweats in custodes*
Primarch:
Flexes
Inquisitor:
HERESY!
“It is the 41st millennium and there is only steroids”
RRRRROOOOOOOOOOOIIIDDS!!!!
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only steroids and bony protrusions"
Stim packs.
...
And there are only SICK GAINS
I am so quoting you.
"100 Push-Ups, 100 Sit-Ups, 100 Squats, 10km run everyday"
"Solo Leveling" reference..?
one punch
Yeah that's one punch man
Just 100?
At least 10,000. One for each year since the Emperor was wounded.
Then it would make sence why they are bald
Vulkan was (Physically) the strongest of all Primarchs, so it would stand to reason that his "sons" are also at least a little bit stronger than other Astartes. That said, a mutation that enhances a quirk already present within the geneseed is absolutely reasonable.
In one of the heresy books he even pushed a fellblade aside for some citizens that were in a panic situation. Thats pretty insane strong. Loved that scene.
antigesum how exactly did he push it? Fellblades weigh 300-ish tons IIRC (though that could be wrong). The manner in which he pushed it could change a lot about how impressive this feat is. to give us a point of comparison, real world strongmen have pulled planes weighing 188.8 tons. I’d expect a regular, run of the mill astartes to be able to manage several times that *at least*. However, of course the plane was pulled, not pushed, and had wheels, not tracks, so it isn’t a perfect comparison. Was the fellblade he pushed still upright on its tracks? Was it knocked to its side? What terrain was it on? I really don’t see any of the primarchs, even the relatively weak ones, struggling to move a fellblade, unless there was something making it really extra difficult
@@zc8211 angron lifted a warhound titan's foot from crushing him and lorgar.
Michael Harris we aren’t talking about angron here, and no he did not lift a titan. He managed to hold a titan for a brief moment. Any longer and he would have been paste. The fact he managed to even hold it for a moment is impressive enough, it doesn’t need exaggeration
@@zc8211 how i said it was one of the earlier hh books. Dont know the name. Was a crusade with him ( vulkan) and curze. The government has capitulated before them and were arrested in camps but some of curzes soldier werent' t satisfied with this arrangment so they tried to get some blood and trophies. So itcame to that emergency that the people try to get away from them pushing away fences etc even push to death, vulkan noticed this und from afar und that none of the marines/astras millitarum react so he run down the hill crashed into the fellblade blocking one of the entrances/exit and pushed him aside that the people can exit the camp and wouldnt be pushed todeath from the one after them. If it was slippery ground or anything else cant remember. But it was discribed that even vulkan came to his limits in this action even parts of his armor broke apart.
Storm giant: Artificer, my armor no longer fits. This is the third time this cycle.
Artificer: ....
Storm Giant: I have an idea
Artificer, to self: Omnissiah preserve me...
Storm Giant: What if you removed the arms, shoulder pads, and everything below mid-thigh?
Artificer: So....you want me to make your power armor look like a muscle shirt and cutoffs?
Storm Giant: Yea! Exactly! It'll be epic, brah.
Artificer, to self: Merciful Emperor, that's the third one this week...
So basically...doomguy?
"Would not stress the tolerance of the Inquisition..."
*Imperial Citizen who ticked off a Lady Inquisitor for looking at her for too long:* _"THEY HAVE TOLERANCE?!"_
Storm Giants are stronger than normal Astartes?
Thunder Warriors...
Something like that would make sense.
SHHHHHHHHH!
Ah, now we know what Arik Taranis was up after Outcast Dead.
Nice.
Explains the secrecy . . . .
I would just like to mention that the Primaris marines who fell to the curse of the wulfen never physically mutated, but lost control and charged into combat using their rifles as crude melee weapons. However they returned to sanity after the fight was over.
That's actually.. kinda hilarious
@@Official_Proxy more disappointing than anything. The Wulfen are great; faux-Wulfen are dumb.
Tyrnak Fenrir so they became fenrysian berserkers
Bearskin on my Back! Wolf-Jaw on my Head! Valhalla awaits me! When I'm dead!
Somewhere in galaxy.....
Vulkan writing to his "To Hug"-list...
Storm Giants.
Aaaahhhh come 'ere braddas (just the pure imagination of that scene is hilarious)
@Vulkan Primarch of the Salamanders "Vulkan lives!"
*Stomp stomp*
Storm Giant Marines: Oh Man Emperor of Mankind, give me the strength to kill your enemies!!!
Power Overwhelming!
My life for a protein shake
Due to their super super strength, they can spread Vulkan’s power hugs across the Imperium? Assuming that they are descendants of Vulkan?
My spine has snapped on the very concept.
They are suspected to be children of Vulkan.
-Black skin ✅️
-Hates Xenos ✅️
-Loves to use Hammers ✅️
-Heat resistant ✅️
-Actually gives a shit to civilians ✅️
-Thinks guardsmen are cool ✅️
They're definitely the sons of Vulkan
Ma bois are growing strong!
@@praxtheannoyance1831 say it. Tell him how wrong he is.
@@praxtheannoyance1831 Tell me how wrong I am foolish one.
Hey, just wanna say hi and see how you're doing my half dead good buddy
@@MsAssking Doing great! Haven't been seen lately because of the Star Child gestation thing, but still. How's the bloody for the blood god gag been goin?
Venerate the Immortal Emperor.
By the way, what do you think of the Primaris Marines?
My hypothesis: the Emperor, knowing that gene-seed could not be made immutable, somehow set up the gene sequences in such a way that variations would become stable and would likely be a boon in combat. This is a natural variation. They're not submitting their gene-seed to Mars because it's their gene-seed, and they're not giving up any more than absolutely necessary.
They probably bought some combat drugs from the sweat goblins of Commorragh
What would happen if Big E had a conversation with Gulliman about Lionel Johnson’s location and how he’s still alive.
The Imperium would finally realize the Dangles were traitors all along...
Your's truly,
Alpharius
Then Guilliman would give the Lion a wake-up call.
Robert Nelson 😂😂😂
Tell Papa Smurf that The Lion has been sulking under a rock for over 10,000 years.
Kitten would refuse the Emperor's request for a wake up call and engage in another fucking children's card game.
Storm Giant sees another astartes lifting something: “Yo you need a spot?”
They’re the children of ....Swollgal Dorn, 😝
Seriously though, they’re probably white scars. If it’s correct the Biscopeia also enhances speed, it could have been a happy accident.
Not to sound racist but they have black skin and red eyes which is a common trait as a result of Salamander gene seed and they're very much altruistic which they also share in common
I believe they are the sons of one of the two "lost" primarchs and that when they got founded they had some members from another chapter along with them, that they are using for the pure samples.
Thunder Warriors were GIANT warriors, named after a byproduct of STORMS....
Thunder Warrior chapter confirmed!!!
This channel grow to be one of my favs about warhammer lore, the bite size and the non stop content is just right listen
A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.
They did not skip arm day
"surviving civilian population"? Send in the Carcharadon next time.
Storm Giants: BROTHERS, DOES THOU EVEN LIFT?
I mean there is always the classic Traitor geneseed theory too, I would say World Eaters...
Death Guard.
Tough little bastards, they are.
Might not be the Swole Giants' progenitors, but I choose to believe that they are.
I really like the focus on the smaller less known chapters!
Chapter Warcry:
For the emperor!
For Whey protein and suplements!
Never skip gym day!
Vulkan was the strongest, and largest primarch... It would make sense that their strength is passed down as well
Was Vulkan really the largest? I thought Magnus was the largest.
Vulkan was 12 foot without his power armour. Also Vulkan is known in lore as "the largest primarch"
Here's something this video made me curious about, which might make for a good future topic: Have any loyalist chapters ever actually been purged over having gene-seed that was deemed "too impure?" I remember hearing that Sanguinius was concerned about such a thing happening to the Blood Angels if the Emperor ever found out about their red thirst, and that he implied that something similar might be related to the loss of one or both of the lost legions, but I've never heard of it happening anywhere in the admittedly somewhat light fluff-reading I've been doing.
Bowen Orcutt flame falcons got yeeted by the inquisition.
Simple Barghest that's because they are a first founding chapter, and are too famous to just be wiped out.
*Definitely Thunder Warriors*
I theorized they’re descended from the Iron Hands. I believe they manipulated their gene seed to become stronger in radical response to the rest of their chapter (and successors) focusing on strength-by-machine rather than what their primarch Ferrus intended, strength-by-flesh. Their symbol reminds me of the Clan Vurgaan symbol, of the Iron Hands. Their name, Storm Giants, could be a reference to the Storm Giants that Ferrus fought on Medusa or it could be a shoot-off from the Legion’s first name, Storm Walkers. The old Iron Hands and Medusans really do like storm motifs. Also, Ferrus Manus focused on the aspect of strength above anything else, this is even revealed in how he forged. He doesn’t make something with beauty or aesthetic in mind, only it’s functionality. He believed that humanity and his sons should improve their strength above all else, and supplant those who were weaker by forcing them out of positions of power within the Legion.
Mutated or not, as long as their strength serves the Emperor faithfully!
My current theory is that they all have belts of storm giant strength which sets their strength to 29.
My Storm Giants have been part of Fabius Bile's great work, a hidden, sleeper chapter within the Imperium waiting for the time to strike at its heart. A purple star on the knee pad being a nod to their Emperor's Children heritage.
That's an interesting theory! I imagine them as raven guard raptor project survivors
You'd think Salamander successors would be easily recognised, no? Red eyes? Grey skin? Flamethrowers everywhere?
Question is the Imperium of man the mirror image of the Skaven Underempire. This is put in question due to the skaven having similar government structures to the Imperium including the council of thirteen which is practically a mirror image of the high lords of terra. And the Emperor and the Great Horned Rat are also similar due to them largely being inactive in the history of their races only ever acting or having significance in times of great conflict and dire situation for their children races. Along with very similar organizations. Such as the Adeptus Mechanicus being a mirror organization to clan Skyre. While the ecclesicary is a mirror image of The Gray Seers and Clan Pestilens. The Astra Militarum is also a mirror image of Clan Mors for being the main overall military force of their respective empires. The officio assassinorum is a mirror image of Clan Eshin for they are both the assassin of their empires. Clan Moulder is the Mirror image of the Adeptus Astartes for their creation of Rat Ogres and the Stormfiends widely argued as skaven space marines for their advanced armor and weaponry and strength and speed. And finally the inquisition and the Adeptus arbites are the mirror image of the gray seers due to their power, the fact they only follow the Great Horned Rat and that they are the only keeping any semblance of order in the under empire despite that literally being impossible.
Dr. Eros bruh.......
This.... this makes too much sense....
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave.
What guns do you bring cousin....storm giants marine.... These guns 💪 brah I'm going to curl that chaos dreadnought.
The battle cry of the Storm Giants chapter: "Gains, Bro!!!!"
Did somebody say, "HERESY!"?
My first thought is that the Storm Giants might be descended from the Death Guard.
My second thought is that the Storm Giants have an experimental geneseed, like the chapters from the 21st founding. Perhaps a chimeric mix of Salamander and Death Guard geneseed. Perhaps they have have a bit Thunder Warrior or Custodes in their geenseed. They might be one of the experiments leading up to the creation of the Primaris geneseed.
Either way, the high lords of Terra, the Adeptus Mechanicus maintainers of the geneseed tithe, and perhaps the Inquisition, would know the secret. This would explain the lack of any official action against the Storm Giants, and these groups and the chapter itself would want to keep the secret from other parts of the Imperial bureacracy - like random Adeptus Mechanicus researchers.
Inquisitor: This is HERESY!
Storm Giant battle brother: Nah, you just don't know how to make gains in the gymnasiorium my baseline dude.
There’s a way to accurately determine if the storm giants and black dragons are a salamanders successor chapter, if their civilian casualty number is exactly zero then they are children of vulkan (or i suppose grand children would be more accurate)
2:07 - Those that share the Sisters of Battle's affinity with fire, but not their relaxed attitude towards collateral damage. | The Sons of Antaeus are more durable than most chapters, meaning that they're suspected Death Guard...then again, not much is known about the World Eaters gene-seed, other than how bad their brutish nature was before the Butcher's Nails and Khorne based Chaos corruption, for all we know, they might've got that from Angron...he also had some psychic ability. | 6:30 - Also the Blood Angels, while not displaying the Black Rage, they still have the Red Thirst, but it's more controllable. | 7:45 - Possibly chimeric gene-seed, a mix of Salamanders and Blood Angels.
I think you turned into Leman Russ when you said Wulfen.
Take note that the Emperor's thunder warriors are superior in strenght, size and physical durability and hardiness than astartes. Also notice how the Thunder warriors were referred to as the Thunder Giants as shown in the novel "The Last Church on Terra". I know that such a thing may sound coincedental in terms of the names Thunder Giants and Storm giants being similar, but they are most similar in terms of physical attributes.
You must also acknowledge that the surviving Thunder Warriors in the Outcast Dead were able to stop their genetic degredation using space marine geneseed. Perhaps the Storm giants were founded upon the surviving Thunder Warriors in the story, the adeptus mechanicus using both the creation methods of thunder warriors and astartes to create the Storm Giants chapter.
Are there Astartes chapters that have no genetic connection
to the Emperor at all? Two possible sources of these types of chapters are:
First, the warp, created for whatever reason the warp could
come up with. The source may or may not be ruinous powers.
Second, a future society might try to reinforce the Emperor.
This may or may not be humanity, but someone who wishes to influence the past.
Rodney Kelly the exorcists are rumoured to be, as they're thought to have grey knight geneseed.
Geneseed is always Emperor-based, and without geneseed they wouldn’t be true Astartes. So no.
They all just have belts of storm giant strength lol
Dost thou even hoist, Battle Brother?
they need the bigger muscles so they can hug their primarch once reunited with him
How do Black Dragons wear armor and helmets with the horns, bone blades and spinal spikes?
The armour is modified
There is also a possibility if only a really slight one.
That the Storm Giants are the decendands of either the 2nd or 11th Legion.
In the short story " The Chamber at the end of memory " its revealed that both the lost legions where officially disbanded and their Primarchs punished,
but that the Legionaires themselves are deemed innocent by both Guilliman and Dorn - with both arguing heaivly to spare the soldiers.
This resulted in primarily the Imperial Fist and Ultramarines adopting the 2nd and 11th legionaires as their own,
with impliation that the other Legions may have been receiving a few companies aswell.
Given that all Legions have one or more inherent inbuild strengths
( World Eaters and Sons of Horus being inherentily more direct and agressive , Imperial Fist having an near instictive understanding about defensive work and vice versa the Iron Warriors for Siege craft, the Word Bearers a beyond religiouse loyality to what ever they tie themselves in etc etc )
it would make sense having a Legion that has its theme be strenght, where for example the Emperors Children and Raven Guards theme is grace and agility
I usually watch strongman videos to get “”up” when I exercise...Eddie Hall’s 500 kg deadlift is a favourite. Now, considering all the resistance training I do, this video is a prime motivator for me.
What I got out of this vid is the Salamanders are big fans of rpgs and named their (allegedly) successor chapters after DnD monsters.
Me: Could it be possible that the source of the gene seeds are sourced from the two legions known as the Lost and purged?
Inquisitor: HERETIC *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
it soujnds to me like jeaulousy, ''oh they are stronged, yeah their gene seed is FLAWED''
They come from stock of the Lost Primarchs of either the II or XI legion.
phaestor they’re actually suspected to be children of Vulkan.
@@centurionconrad Their mutation is stable, unlike children of Vulkan. That is why they must be II or XI. Just my opinion.
I'm beginning to suspect there are more chapters with mysterious foundings than not.
There are 9 legions that weren't loyalist and two that 'vanished'. The geneseed of all 20 legions is on terra. It's not a far stretch.
That's actually really interesting. I had no idea there was a chapter of space marine with super strength.
Does anyone know if there's a book about them or something similar?
There's precious little lore about this particular chapter. Most of their lore comes from the 8th ed Space Marine codex (second version) and Imperial Armour volume 2.
i honestly dont see why people diss like these videos they are very well done
Plot Twist: The enhanced Strength came from One For All, The next generation of One For All users. THUS ALLOWING THEM TO GO BEYOND PLUS ULTRA!
nah they are Pillar men
@@sebastian10226 We classify them as custodes.
what is the name of the song played on the background?
@@praxtheannoyance1831 Thanks, you kind heretic
Rebus Mortis
Is there any possibility of the enhanced strength coming from unsanctioned alterations to their power armor rather than their geneseed? I mean, for them to flat out deny the petition to study them could be more out of concern over how quickly the Mechanicis would notice tinkered power armor than anything else. Plus we already know how big a taboo it is to change anything from the templates.
That’s actually a much more interesting angle than geneseed tampering.
@@Gormathius Thanks :) The idea came from how many suspect them to be a successor chapter of the Salamanders (which to be fair does make mutation of the geneseed plausible as well). Given how the Salamanders are the undisputed master craftsmen of the Space Marines, it wasn't that big a leap in logic to imagine them doing field repairs or upgrades to their armor due to having an affinity for crafting. Now, this would make the armor stronger, but it would also be extremely easy to prove since the specs for power armor are rather well known by this point. If they were to be investigated, just as a formality their gear would get spot checked, and, well, yeah.
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40K Theories What do you think about the colab with Marvel comics and games workshop?
shawcobra what is this heresy you speak of?
@@trolltothebank www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/30/games-workshop-and-marvel-comics-team-upgw-homepage-post-1/
The real story: A group of friendly Storm Giants were helping with moving styrofoam props for a play. A clan of orks witnessed this, mistook the props for real rock and thought «Dem’z da strongest beakies we’z eva seen!»
Question and this might have been asked before. But what would happen with a gene seed directly from the emperor himself?
My gym is my sword, my biceps are my shield!
Why does it have to be directly related to the gene-seed? Perhaps they are using unsanctioned cybernetic enhancements based on Xenos technology. The gene-seed might be the most vital component in the creation of an Astartes, but it isn't the only possible factor in every abnormality found in a chapter's marines. As for why the use of technology would make the chapter hesitant to share their gene-seed with the Adeptus Mechanicus, there could be any number of reasons from seeing the request as a personal insult to the honour and integrity of the chapter or a flaw in the gene-seed unrelated to their strength. I know I'm just speculating here, but I don't want other possibilities to go unmentioned.
Maybe they just eat FOUR Weetabix for breakfast?
Also forgot the book Battle of the Fang which showed a Runesmith altering the DNA of the geneseed so as to avoid the Curse of the Wulfen. In fact, it is the reason why Magnus invades the Aett so as to destroy the experiment.
Can’t think of a more fitting name for a chapter of extra-muscled space marines as the Storm Giants
They work out, they eat healthy food , they have enough sleep and they maintain good manners
Successful raven guard rapture project chapter? I'm surprised nobody considered this, or even alpha legion since on average their marines are already larger
Didn't the fourth edition space marine codex feature an apothecary tracking the development of a class of neophytes and remarking on a mutation of one recruit's biscopea resulting in unending muscle development, eventually killing the recruit, prompting the apothecary to claim he would study the mutation to determine if it was possible to increase a space marine's strength farther by farther breeding the mutant geneseed?
i really need a theory on how all these horned guys, loyalist and traitors alike, get their armor and helmets on and off
Makes you wonder how many Astartes are actually pet projects of Fabius Bile.
The answer is simple. They're members of the cult of swole and they never skip leg day.
I think the reason is that they only recruit from Catachan, so only the swolest get in.
Please do a vid on the howling griffons
I always thought they were made from mixing the gene seed from multiple loyalist chapters would that not be very heretical ?
I asked my Captain about these guys and he said “any knowledge regarding the origins of the Storm Giants is rather lost or sealed.”
Gabriel de oliveira The salamanders will keep our knowledge and successors secret.
@@centurionconrad More like the Chapter Master and Forge-father will keep it a secret.
To be fair, if a group of toaster buggerers kept pestering me for a sample of my genes, I'd tell them to bugger off too.
The Storm Giants probably feel they are not 'freaks' or 'aberrations' and will not be dissected by the Biologis of Mars.
I didn't know that a chapter was permitted to deny inquisitions into their geneseed...
Very good , well done ... i think it doesn´t matter how they got extra strength .. JUST AS LONG AS THEY KICK ASS !!!!!
Do you suppose that a marine has ever existed that was simply to large to fit into armor? I remember Abaddon was a giant of a marine but he could still fit on his Terminator armor.
Since it also affects Primaris, it seems unlikely it is genetic. More likely something like Xenos Tech. Maybe a low leven warp influnece? And there is a good reason to withhold the geneseed for this: If it turns out to not be Geneseed based, way bigger questions *will* be asked.
The oditiy with the Primaris could simply be a case of them adapting to the Chapters culture of "strenght maters most". Maybe they simply go to the gym more often?
As for the chance of them "randomly" developing a beneficial Mutation. It is about the same as:
- The Council of Nikea being held on planet Nikea, giving it a name very similar to the Council of Nicea: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
- the chance for any of the Primarchs and their Sons to developing: Dragonlike, Wolflike, Vampire Like and Birdlike traits. All in perfect matching to their name.
- about half of every important characters names
Won't the primemarus marines also be considered tamper as will?
Would Papa smurfs geneseed be different to his geneseed before the hours heresy or could it be corrupted in any way?
Damn I need to corrupt one of those bad boys
KHORNE you will never corrupt the children of Vulkan, blood god!
The idea that the Storm Giants are tampering with their geneseed is plausible, but something tells me that it isn't what prohibits them from submitting to the inquiries of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Relations between the cult and the Astartes are unstable, at best. I'd say they could possibly be from either the 2nd or the 11th legion's geneseed, and refuse to have their geneseed further inspected under threat of extermination. The enhanced strength could simply be a byproduct of their forgotten Primarch.
Traitor gene seed? Angron lifted a titan off of Lorgar
Or, maybe the self deleting files of the mechanicus keep any official purity test results from being on file.
that table of defiances gene seed probability may be very old and not quite accurate; many sources says the exact opposite, that except for the ebony skin and red eyes the salamander gene seed is stable... my guess is that someone played with the gene seed of the salamanders and the space wolf to create something in between... the name storm giants is very vikinglike but they are suspected salamanders successors
Don't tell the custodes of these swole battlebrothers