My gym has two moonboards side by side, it started with the 2019 and 2016, but recently they replaced the 2019 with the 2024. My thoughts on the 2024: - I live in the tropics and it's constantly 70-80% humidity even with the AC on. The friction dependent nature of the holds make it very difficult to climb. - Also because of friction, the holds degrade and become polished very quickly. - The holds tend to have "buckets", so chalk accummulates. Again, in 70% humidity this is never a good thing. - The gym doesn't "reset" the moonboard, so the holds never get cleaned. - The board doesn't have benchmarks below V4 (although it surely can) - this is a huge disadvantage for newcomers compared to the 2019. - Most importantly, people vote with their feet. The popularity of the 2016 has surged but the 2024 has stayed mostly empty.
For certain the best 2024 MoonBoard video on UA-cam! Super insightful and fun to watch as always. It sounds like it maintains the essence of the MoonBoard while bringing some variety and key improvements! I’m glad to hear that it’s nicer on the fingers. I can’t wait to try it out! Hopefully sometime in 2024 I’ll get a chance to touch the 2024 board… maybe in Vegas, who knows 😆 Thanks for the vid, Miguel!
TURN THE LIGHTS ON !!!! People complaining you can't see the lights. It was a NEW upgrade where you can have the light above and below the holds which make finding your foot holds super easy. Massive game changer !!!!
Haha oh hey, I didn't see ya there. Haha that's awesome. Dude maybe do a comparison vid of all the system walls. Moon, tension, kilter.... what board is good for what. I'm in luv with the idea we as climbers can climb with anybody at any time on the planet if one has access to these boards. Legit global motivated community.
nothing against the climbers here, but everything about what they say is good about the new moonboard is actually a big negative for me. I use the moonboard as an alternate way of training my fingers from hangboarding and it seems like everything about the 2024 mb is the opposite of what I want to use the moonboard for. The slippery and fingery nature of the 2019 mb really helped me learn to pull through bad holds very quickly and translated well outdoors. seems like 2024 mb wouldn't be as good of a tool in that regard.
Very valid point. Also keep in mind that most climbers here were doing V4 to V6 that use a lot of the big blue holds. I'll ask Ravioli to set it straight for us in a future vid. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
@@MiguelClimbs With the older mb, even in lower grades they would utilize the difficult holds but have good feet and progress by using worse foot hold with wider spans. If the 2024 mb v4-v6 aren't utilizing some of the more challenging holds, makes me think that there might be hold placement issues where challenging holds aren't able to be used in lower grades. Or that progressing simply means spanning these good blue holds which would again not align with those who wish to focus on finger training as opposed to dynamic coordination. Would definitely love to hear Ravioli's insight on this!
@@Jacob0481 Thought I was clear on what I wanted and not sure how that came off as complaining. I'm only basing this off of what I see, hear, and been told in the video and comments. I'm talking about mb as a tool for finger training and if the tool isn't as efficient as the other iteration of the moonboard to me that would make this a worse mb. think this is well worth a discussion since mb is meant to be used as a training tool and with each iteration it's attempting to improve on that very nature.
@@Jacob0481 not sure why I have to repeat myself so many times unless english isn't your first language. just read through what I said carefully and maybe you'll be able to answer your question.
@@Jacob0481 I honestly didn't say that much until you kept asking me to repeat myself. if you consider more than one sentence rambling, then sure, I ramble. lol.
Interesting to hear. I’ll have to try it eventually to see what it feels like. Wonder if making the holds easier to hold is a good thing though since I have been bored climbing for a while to train the fingers and do love how sandbagged it is. I am also able to have sessions on the ‘19 & ‘16 that last 3 hours or so which is nice but any longer on nicer holds and I think I’d just burn myself out quicker on it
I know! None of the female Refuge crushers were on the board the two days that I filmed. It just means that I'll have to do another one with the females 🙌
The moonboard might get you stronger due to its style of climbing but the kilter is so much more pleasant and fun to climb on in my opinion. Also not seeing the lights while climbing is so annoying on the moonboard
Yeah agreed. Having lights below the holds has always given me trouble. I haven't climbed on the Kilter as much, but I'm sure I'd like it! Thanks for the feedback!
completely opposite for me... I never feel good whenever I climb on kilter, the holds are just so juggy that i tend to always get blisters/blood blisters whenever I'm trying hard. Specially when you get to v8+ range most climbs is just so spanny your always dynoing off a jug... puts so much sudden force on my finger's skin.
Roasting your friend using his own kid is insane 😂
😂😂😂
Very insightful, thank you Camden!
Lol, he knows his stuff 👨🏫
Such a good video! This is exactly what I was hoping to see, thanks Miguel!
-Emile
Haha thanks Emile! Can't wait for you to get your hands on it. You're looking so strong on the MB these days 💪
My gym has two moonboards side by side, it started with the 2019 and 2016, but recently they replaced the 2019 with the 2024. My thoughts on the 2024:
- I live in the tropics and it's constantly 70-80% humidity even with the AC on. The friction dependent nature of the holds make it very difficult to climb.
- Also because of friction, the holds degrade and become polished very quickly.
- The holds tend to have "buckets", so chalk accummulates. Again, in 70% humidity this is never a good thing.
- The gym doesn't "reset" the moonboard, so the holds never get cleaned.
- The board doesn't have benchmarks below V4 (although it surely can) - this is a huge disadvantage for newcomers compared to the 2019.
- Most importantly, people vote with their feet. The popularity of the 2016 has surged but the 2024 has stayed mostly empty.
For certain the best 2024 MoonBoard video on UA-cam! Super insightful and fun to watch as always. It sounds like it maintains the essence of the MoonBoard while bringing some variety and key improvements! I’m glad to hear that it’s nicer on the fingers. I can’t wait to try it out! Hopefully sometime in 2024 I’ll get a chance to touch the 2024 board… maybe in Vegas, who knows 😆 Thanks for the vid, Miguel!
Haha we would love to host you August! Thanks for the awesome comment as always!
TURN THE LIGHTS ON !!!! People complaining you can't see the lights. It was a NEW upgrade where you can have the light above and below the holds which make finding your foot holds super easy. Massive game changer !!!!
Well said StickyG 🫡
Praise the Lord 🙏
Shout out to Daytona Climbing Company FL 4th let's go!
Haha oh hey, I didn't see ya there. Haha that's awesome. Dude maybe do a comparison vid of all the system walls. Moon, tension, kilter.... what board is good for what. I'm in luv with the idea we as climbers can climb with anybody at any time on the planet if one has access to these boards. Legit global motivated community.
Thanks for watching! I'll see what I can do regarding a comparison vid!
@@MiguelClimbs most groovy brother! Thanks
Oh Camden... 😂
Excited to see you progress on the new MoonBoard!
Camden stole the show 😻
Amazing video! I really rate the 2024 set, this was a varied and good representation of it :D
Yeah tío! Can't wait to try some of your sets on this one! 🙌
My morning just got a whole lot better! Im not a board climber either but I might start now✌🏻
Damn, dynos and boarding all in the same year!? How can anyone top that.
nothing against the climbers here, but everything about what they say is good about the new moonboard is actually a big negative for me. I use the moonboard as an alternate way of training my fingers from hangboarding and it seems like everything about the 2024 mb is the opposite of what I want to use the moonboard for. The slippery and fingery nature of the 2019 mb really helped me learn to pull through bad holds very quickly and translated well outdoors. seems like 2024 mb wouldn't be as good of a tool in that regard.
Very valid point. Also keep in mind that most climbers here were doing V4 to V6 that use a lot of the big blue holds. I'll ask Ravioli to set it straight for us in a future vid. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
@@MiguelClimbs With the older mb, even in lower grades they would utilize the difficult holds but have good feet and progress by using worse foot hold with wider spans. If the 2024 mb v4-v6 aren't utilizing some of the more challenging holds, makes me think that there might be hold placement issues where challenging holds aren't able to be used in lower grades. Or that progressing simply means spanning these good blue holds which would again not align with those who wish to focus on finger training as opposed to dynamic coordination. Would definitely love to hear Ravioli's insight on this!
@@Jacob0481 Thought I was clear on what I wanted and not sure how that came off as complaining. I'm only basing this off of what I see, hear, and been told in the video and comments. I'm talking about mb as a tool for finger training and if the tool isn't as efficient as the other iteration of the moonboard to me that would make this a worse mb. think this is well worth a discussion since mb is meant to be used as a training tool and with each iteration it's attempting to improve on that very nature.
@@Jacob0481 not sure why I have to repeat myself so many times unless english isn't your first language. just read through what I said carefully and maybe you'll be able to answer your question.
@@Jacob0481 I honestly didn't say that much until you kept asking me to repeat myself. if you consider more than one sentence rambling, then sure, I ramble. lol.
Thanks for the video! Nice collection of various opinions.
It was fun hearing everyone's thoughts. Thanks for watching!
I'm still writing 2019 on all my checks 😅
😂 Get with the program Dabber!
Promo-SM
Ep on the Tension board? My favorite by far.
Once our TB2 holds come in you bet we'll make a vid 🤙
@@MiguelClimbs TB1 in the meantime? Would be cool to see you guys on the V5 and up classics.
9:00 get wrecked
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The moon board always delivers...except 2017 that set was terrible. 2019 is and will always be my favorite.
Haha, no one likes 2017...
Interesting to hear. I’ll have to try it eventually to see what it feels like. Wonder if making the holds easier to hold is a good thing though since I have been bored climbing for a while to train the fingers and do love how sandbagged it is. I am also able to have sessions on the ‘19 & ‘16 that last 3 hours or so which is nice but any longer on nicer holds and I think I’d just burn myself out quicker on it
Interesting take. Can't wait for you to try it and let us know your thoughts!
2016 or bust 😂
Time to re-activate my membership to try this blue beauty out! 😍
Ohhhhh, so that's why we haven't seen you lately!
Uplift is number 2, coming for you
Get it!
Refuge dominating the leaderboard!
You know it Adam!
Can't wait to try this out!!!
I think you'll like it Josh! 🙌
sadly no moonboard in my gym
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Moonboard Ad?
I wish. At least then I'd get paid. 🤑
Really interesting to have everyone’s opinion. Too bad no female climbers were included in this video though
I know! None of the female Refuge crushers were on the board the two days that I filmed. It just means that I'll have to do another one with the females 🙌
Don’t make this into something this isn’t. Just enjoy the video.
The moonboard might get you stronger due to its style of climbing but the kilter is so much more pleasant and fun to climb on in my opinion. Also not seeing the lights while climbing is so annoying on the moonboard
Yeah agreed. Having lights below the holds has always given me trouble. I haven't climbed on the Kilter as much, but I'm sure I'd like it! Thanks for the feedback!
completely opposite for me... I never feel good whenever I climb on kilter, the holds are just so juggy that i tend to always get blisters/blood blisters whenever I'm trying hard. Specially when you get to v8+ range most climbs is just so spanny your always dynoing off a jug... puts so much sudden force on my finger's skin.
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Yup! 😻