The Difference Between Single Disc Clutches vs Multi Plate Clutches - Jays Tech Tip
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- In this video Jay goes over the operation and limitations of both Single disc clutches and Multi plate clutches, and talk about what you need to know to make an educated purchase.
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When the factory designed your OEM clutch they needed to be able to manage the power output of the engine. Offer good drivability good longevity but still be that fuse, that weak link in the driveline that if the owner was being abusive to the vehicle the clutch would fail first. Watch the video to learn more.
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Jay, coming in clutch. As always.
Literally 😐🤣
and never slips up
Haha!!! Love it!
Ha ha good one! I like it! 😂
BADUM TISSS
The guy who doesnt beg for likes and subscription, and comments... gets them all! I love how you just got right into it instead of saying the subject and then going into a minute long intro that nobody wants to see. And 2 things you said in here really hit me with clarity, even though neither apply, you said it so damn well: "compromises will be made." Period. Straight line thru the convoluted attempts we all try when we want the best of all worlds. And: "you have to take responsibility for your part in the clutch's success". This has broad applicability to life and everything in it, as well as the mere clutch. Honestly it was a little too much information for me to make total sense out of because I have never dealt with this and I am learning how to rebuild my transmission. It had to go right the first time. You are so direct in approach and clear with explanation of detail- you should make the video im looking for: how much to rebuild the transmission. It's like I don't know where to stop adding things to the cart, because I figure while I'm in there I might as well replace all kinds of things. But I don't know how long I can expect to reliably depend on various parts, and the service intervals of very specific parts. Every type of seal/gasket, every bearing in there, pressure plate, friction plate, covers flywheel... where should I stop. Mild driving for commute, high mileage, longevity is the goal.
'the clutch is meant to be the weak link that fails first under force.... thats very helpful to know...
Thanks for the upload. Always makes me chuckle when some yahoo making 350hp/325tq has a stage 3 twin disc clutch.. and it's a horror to drive.
Great as always Jay
Thnaks!
I really enjoy my ATS triple carbon clutch. They are expensive but last a long time.
Very well explained, as always. Thanks mate
Anytime!
Great Video. To the point. No BS. Subscribed. Thank you
I get a lot of guys that tend to over-clutch their cars for it’s use/power level, and then they end up not even wanting to drive it. I’ve been able to experience a variety of cars to quickly build product knowledge and experience tips to select a clutch that works for any given application, even down to certain brands having particular characteristics versus the next for the same style clutch assembly. Great info as always, Jay!
Hello i have a 6.0 twin turbo ls with 1200hp mated up to a t56 magnum that I use for street use, i cheaped out on the clutch and it doesnt hold past 4000 rpm, what would you recommend? I would like smooth engagement, the last clutch i had was unsprung and i hated it
As a Miata owner, I feel like a kid sitting at the grown-ups table and hoping not to get kicked out. I've seen clutches for the NC rated for 500lb-ft which... is unimaginable.
Good evening teacher JAY
Good day!
I swear one of the biggest causes of crank walk is people starting modified cars with the clutch down because they are used to the dumb "safety" feature on modern manuals. Just a month ago I saw a post about someone who destroyed his block by doing this with just a heavy duty organic clutch. Don't start your modified cars with the clutch down people!!!
Do a video on the new uniclutch! I want to see how they stand up?
It would be nice if yall did a video on the rps clutchs and go into detail.
I have the clutch masters 850 triple plate for my supra, it has very small engage window. the car bogs most of the time.
I used to drive my evo with exedy triple plate with easy, but this one is way difficult to drive
is there a way to set it up so that it feels like a normal triple plate?
Jay just Inches away from 100k SUBZ!!!!
Please do a video on breaking in clutch
There instructions in the box
Just grabbed a OS Giken TR2CD for cd00A to 2jz. I hear it’s easy to daily…… which could be subjective LOL
Great info.
I love my RPS Triple
So curious. Does this mean a properly setup twin disk with a pedal stop is less stress on the engines thrust than a heavier weighted single disk would be?
correct
Is there a noticeable difference in terms of engagement "chatter" or driveabilty between the Clutch Masters 725 race twin disk and street/race twin disk?
I've been considering getting a street/race disk set in my turbo street car to replace the race disks that are in it currently, but I'm not sure if it'll be a big enough difference for the $650 cost.
This! My 850 race is all or nothing.
have you gotten an answer on this?
@@drewdavis239 do you mean the 850 is even more aggressive? I thought the 725 was more aggressively chattery etc..?
@danielboot Yes and no... CM said a hydraulic throwout bearing will help with street driving because the pedal will have more throw, making it less sensitive. I ended up buying the bearing and the street/race disks. There was a pretty big improvement with street driving! Pedal is much softer and there's much less chatter.
Are twin disc clutches and multi plate clutches the same?
Why does my multi-plate clutch always make that ringing sound while in neutral?
With the clutch pedal released most of the noise you hear is the gear lash in the trans and not the clutch itself. If you're talking about noise when the pedal is depressed the floater plates generally rattle.
i had a 4 puck un-sprung for 500 ft lbs at flywheel ..... That lasted 1 week then swapped out to a 6 puck sprung.
Can you buy a prebedde clutch pressure plate and flywheel combo?
Any large face clutches for k series. This is a very big problem for high hp application that are street driven
I'd love to know if there is a good K series option as well! My CM 725 is a hassle to drive on the street.
You need to know torque values. Performance clutches aren’t going to have a problem with high rpm’s, which I’m assuming is why your Honda is “high hp”.
@@TML34 535whp 395tq, awd, 3300lb chassis
@The Hutch I wasn't sure how much the having 1 organic and 1 cermaic disk like the street/race version has would help make the car more streetable.
Hello, does the Clutch Pressure Plate Clamping Force increaseing will increase the Clutch Pedal force in the mean time in same percentage?
correct
Shouts out comp clutch
Jay, is the difference between a clutch disk with the 4 or 6 coil springs and a disc without them simply a matter of dampening and smoother operation? Coil springs help soften engage, grab? I just replaced a bad disc that had the coil springs with one without them and the clutch is not as smooth or soft, with noticeably quicker, shorter stroke grabbing, made me stall a couple times. Will my clutch soften when clutch is completely broken in? Previously, the entire friction point movement area of the pedal was about 3/4". The new disc is about 1/4".
Nobodies answering this shit homie
@@yajsemi671 Because they don't know, and why would you possibly care? You are nauseatingly predictable.
What with auto transmission clutches ? Do you have clutches for auto too?
no
@@Seeker-vo2tz tuning and steel torq converter is enough ?
hi..is is suitable to use os giken super single clutch for daily drive?
wish to ask, recently i change my clutch disk found my exedy twin plate the FRICTION TOP PLATE slightly bent/curve look like.. is this normal?
no
Because I watched this video.. does that mean I get a discount when ordering clutch upgrades from you guys?
Atleast you're not saying Tran Mission anymore
Could you imagine if I was from New England or the deep south like Mississippi?! 🤣
so much more information that coudlve been provided here. dissapointed...
We'll be sure to give you your money back. In the mean time, there are about 1000 other videos on youtube with more in depth information if that's what you're looking for.
I'm still trying to find the best 2jz/r154f single disc clutch. 600hp. Alot of guys dont like the DM 3.5. So I'm wanting to see more options.
I wouldn't recommend the 3.5 either.
Didn't feel well. It's a modified OEM pressure plate and had poor pedal feel for me. The pucks welded the end tips to the flywheel twice. Once at 300mi and again at 4500mi.
Factory r154 jzx100 that only has a boost controller. Brand new master/slave and all new throw out components when doing the clutch too with Toyota parts.
I replaced it with an HKS LA twin disk kit. The hks twin feels phenominal to drive, and imo is perfect for a street car. Exedy makes the clutch for HKS. Exedy also makes essentially the same twin disk but you can get 6 puck disks vs hks having full face disks. Both are OEM pull style pressure plates so installation and reliability are great.
Iirc the cost difference between a full drift motion setup and the hks/exedy clutches was about $1000 Canadian after I had to pay shipping for the DM setup vs buying the hks clutch from a local shop who got the hks clutch in 3 days.
@@KyleXSkiwith that clutch did you have to make any changes to the clutch pedal? I have an X90 myself and this has me curious
@@Armanition No pedal modifications needed for the hks LA twin. Direct fit part number for my x100 so the x90 should be the same. HKS has a sheet on their website with the PN and anyone who's a dealer or has access to a distributor that carries them can order.
And this last summer season the clutch has been great with some mild street abuse. I've been able to shift 1-2 doing burnouts/left foot braking no problem. I think the only time I slipped it pretty bad was a car full of adults trying to get greedy on a hot day and attempted to do a burnout from a standstill in 2nd. Car was way to gripped up haha. No issues though after.