How does this only have 175 likes? And then I remembered I’ve been watching these all and not liking every one! Thank so much for sharing these. It’s been such a big help. I also bought the Mingles after your other video. About to use that for the first time!
Huge thank you for doing this. A lightbulb moment for me was realizing that the four rhythm generators are all working simultaneously. I kept trying to understand what “step”the generator was on. I wonder if showing your dot lanes vertically would help speed that realization (for when you lecture at Moog university). Though it could just be me with the wet matches.
Yes, I‘ve made the same experience, that by a steady beat (DFAM, M32, …) rhythms which sound chaotic become more musical and start to „make sense“. Somehow that seems to be the magic of polyrhythms 🎉😊.
Absolutely. Adding a dedicated kick module can really free up everything... Although there's something special about having a self contained system. (I guess there's also something special about expanding the system... Ha!)
Ok I’m starting to get this. I couldn’t work out before why if you have two patterns selected for an osc, and one of them is 1:1 and the other is something less frequent, that the result would be 1:1. I thought that by using two patterns you would combine them with the result being part 1:1 and part x:1. And our graphic that overlays the two patterns explains why this happens. Sorry that might not make sense.. anyway, great job, thank you 🙏
Thanks for taking the time to make this series, they're really well made and have hugely helped me better understand the SubH. One thing that really confused me with this thing, is how SEQ1 and SEQ 2 both trigger both VCOs. Reading the manual and some other videos made me think that SEQ1 would only ever trigger VCO1, and the same for SEQ2/VCO2. But I soon discovered with VCO2's volume down, SEQ 2 still trigger the sound of VCO1, just not it's pitch. I guess this is because although there are two oscillators, it's one voice - one envelope generator - so both SEQ 1 and SEQ 2 are just firing off triggers to the VCA? This really confused me for a while, and I thought my SubH was broken! (unless it is?!)
So you can't assign a rhythm to a specific OSC. Only the sequencer. The envelopes are triggered by the rhythms and the OSC sound at the same time. It's kind of unfortunate that you can't assign them different rhythms, but...
It's a "logic function" that changes the way the rhythms of the two sequencers interact. "Or" means that the envelope will trigger whenever there is a signal from either sequencer 1 OR sequencer 2. Basically it merges the two. XOR does the same EXECEPT (exclusion) when BOTH are being triggered at the same time. So, xor will create a more sparse overall rhythm because it excludes some of the triggers (when both sequencers line up) and it will only trigger when there is one or the other moving.... Hope that makes sense. It's a lot to wrap your head around, but once it clicks - it clicks.
The last two vids were tough for me, not because you didn't explain them well, but because of the complexity of rhythms. I intend on clocking my subh to my syntakt (when it arrives) and use it for harmony. With your series I intend to use what I learned to have the subh play my chord progression and my M32 for arps. Extremely grateful for this series as I was getting really frustrated with my subh and though I would never make use of it :) God bless you
Yeah, those rhythms are tough to wrap your brain around... One suggestion is to start with even subdivisions (4 and 2, 8 and 2, etc). Also make sure to have a steady kick to tie everything together... That's what really helped me!
Hey, learning alot from your vids. Thanks! 'm new to the subhar, and modular in general. My question is how can I use Logic Audio as an external clock? I would like to be able to create sequences on the subhar in time and play along with them live using drums sequenced in logic. Can I send a signal from logic audio to the subhar as a clock?
Yes definitely. You're talking about Logic - the DAW correct? If so, the SubH can receive clock information through midi. It can receive transport information too so it will start and stop when you push the button on your computer. (You could also sequence it from Logic). I'm away from my studio for a few days, and I can't remember the exact process. Are you familiar with Midi?
Alternatively, you could get a Midi to CV converter such as the Hexinverter Mutant Brain and send a clock signal. There are other ways too, but Midi is the easiest.
I have a question, hope you can help When I light up seq1 button below rhythm 1 and seq2 button below rhythm 2 and press play - the notes are triggered from both sequencers. Id like seq 1 to trigger ONLY vco 1 and seq 2 to trigger ONLY vco 2. is that possible? Couldnt figure it out myself, havent seen it on the manual nor on any tutorial on UA-cam. Thanks for your awesome tutorials!
Sorry... Not possible. The two VCOs share an envelope. You could could do it if you incorporated it within a larger modular system. It's these types of ideas that lead people deeper into modular... :)
Thanks for the detailed overview. On the Rhythm button selectors, it appears they are not synch'd to the actual label values (lines). On your 2-3, both knobs are pretty much at around 15'o clock. Thus, hard to really set the divs accurately.
this makes sense for one sequencer but what if you use both sequencers? Do they have the same rhythms or can the second be programmed differently as far as rhythms? oscillator one would be playing something different than oscillator 2, if so that would get confusing right away since they share the same rhythm knobs.
Great and again that has filled in a hole in my knowledge. What I have been looking into for ages now is a way to change key without using midi. Don't know if it is possible but have you heard of managed to change the key once the sequence is running?
That's the next video! Already filmed it - just need to edit. I don't believe there's a way to do it solely from the interface. Besides midi you can do it through the patchbay using VCO1. In the video, I use a Keystep.
Thank you for this detailed explanation. Clock divisions and polyrhythms can sometimes be difficult to understand. Putting “OR” logic on top of that also adds interest and complexity.
Been playing the drums for 25 years and just bought a dfam + subharmonicon. Been watching these all day at work, super grounding
Awesome series, great visuals and the depth of the content is perfect.
Much appreciated!
How does this only have 175 likes? And then I remembered I’ve been watching these all and not liking every one! Thank so much for sharing these. It’s been such a big help. I also bought the Mingles after your other video. About to use that for the first time!
This video is super good. You’re such a good teacher. Now I really grasp what’s going on and how to think about it! Many thanks
Just bought the Moog Studio 3 and very happy to find your tutorials!
Awesome! Glad you like them and they are helpful. Let me know if you have any questions!
Huge thank you for doing this.
A lightbulb moment for me was realizing that the four rhythm generators are all working simultaneously. I kept trying to understand what “step”the generator was on. I wonder if showing your dot lanes vertically would help speed that realization (for when you lecture at Moog university). Though it could just be me with the wet matches.
Those lightbulb moments are awesome! So glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for this video and the entire series. This cleared up a lot.
Thanks! Glad you liked them.
Yes, I‘ve made the same experience, that by a steady beat (DFAM, M32, …) rhythms which sound chaotic become more musical and start to „make sense“. Somehow that seems to be the magic of polyrhythms 🎉😊.
Absolutely. Adding a dedicated kick module can really free up everything... Although there's something special about having a self contained system. (I guess there's also something special about expanding the system... Ha!)
Wonderful tuto! The polyrythm at 10:40 sounds like MESHUGGAH! Ahah ! Brilliant!
Thanks! 🙏
Ok I’m starting to get this. I couldn’t work out before why if you have two patterns selected for an osc, and one of them is 1:1 and the other is something less frequent, that the result would be 1:1. I thought that by using two patterns you would combine them with the result being part 1:1 and part x:1. And our graphic that overlays the two patterns explains why this happens. Sorry that might not make sense.. anyway, great job, thank you 🙏
Awesome! Really appreciate the comments. I'm glad you're finding these helpful! :)
This is awesome. Thanks for all you do. I was feeling like a dumdum trying to figure this out.
Thanks! It can be tough to wrap your brain around. Definitely! Glad you got something out of it.
Finally ... answers to my questions :) - THX a lot!
Thanks for taking the time to make this series, they're really well made and have hugely helped me better understand the SubH.
One thing that really confused me with this thing, is how SEQ1 and SEQ 2 both trigger both VCOs.
Reading the manual and some other videos made me think that SEQ1 would only ever trigger VCO1, and the same for SEQ2/VCO2. But I soon discovered with VCO2's volume down, SEQ 2 still trigger the sound of VCO1, just not it's pitch. I guess this is because although there are two oscillators, it's one voice - one envelope generator - so both SEQ 1 and SEQ 2 are just firing off triggers to the VCA?
This really confused me for a while, and I thought my SubH was broken! (unless it is?!)
Ha! No you got that right. It would need more than one envelope to trigger separately. So no matter what it triggers both... :)
Very helpful, this confused me as well! Now slightly less confused and making my way thru this series 😂
11:20 I guess adding the second oscillator made no effect as no one of the four rhythms are triggering it.
So you can't assign a rhythm to a specific OSC. Only the sequencer. The envelopes are triggered by the rhythms and the OSC sound at the same time. It's kind of unfortunate that you can't assign them different rhythms, but...
mazing stuff! I just don't understand the OR/XOR. Is it an active setting, a patch to create OR/XOR, or a built-in mechanism?
It's a "logic function" that changes the way the rhythms of the two sequencers interact. "Or" means that the envelope will trigger whenever there is a signal from either sequencer 1 OR sequencer 2. Basically it merges the two.
XOR does the same EXECEPT (exclusion) when BOTH are being triggered at the same time.
So, xor will create a more sparse overall rhythm because it excludes some of the triggers (when both sequencers line up) and it will only trigger when there is one or the other moving....
Hope that makes sense. It's a lot to wrap your head around, but once it clicks - it clicks.
The last two vids were tough for me, not because you didn't explain them well, but because of the complexity of rhythms. I intend on clocking my subh to my syntakt (when it arrives) and use it for harmony. With your series I intend to use what I learned to have the subh play my chord progression and my M32 for arps. Extremely grateful for this series as I was getting really frustrated with my subh and though I would never make use of it :) God bless you
Yeah, those rhythms are tough to wrap your brain around... One suggestion is to start with even subdivisions (4 and 2, 8 and 2, etc). Also make sure to have a steady kick to tie everything together... That's what really helped me!
Hey, learning alot from your vids. Thanks! 'm new to the subhar, and modular in general. My question is how can I use Logic Audio as an external clock? I would like to be able to create sequences on the subhar in time and play along with them live using drums sequenced in logic. Can I send a signal from logic audio to the subhar as a clock?
Yes definitely. You're talking about Logic - the DAW correct? If so, the SubH can receive clock information through midi. It can receive transport information too so it will start and stop when you push the button on your computer. (You could also sequence it from Logic). I'm away from my studio for a few days, and I can't remember the exact process. Are you familiar with Midi?
Alternatively, you could get a Midi to CV converter such as the Hexinverter Mutant Brain and send a clock signal. There are other ways too, but Midi is the easiest.
I have a question, hope you can help
When I light up seq1 button below rhythm 1 and seq2 button below rhythm 2 and press play - the notes are triggered from both sequencers. Id like seq 1 to trigger ONLY vco 1 and seq 2 to trigger ONLY vco 2. is that possible?
Couldnt figure it out myself, havent seen it on the manual nor on any tutorial on UA-cam.
Thanks for your awesome tutorials!
Sorry... Not possible. The two VCOs share an envelope. You could could do it if you incorporated it within a larger modular system. It's these types of ideas that lead people deeper into modular... :)
Thanks for the detailed overview. On the Rhythm button selectors, it appears they are not synch'd to the actual label values (lines). On your 2-3, both knobs are pretty much at around 15'o clock. Thus, hard to really set the divs accurately.
It's really frustrating. Also, each of my rhythm generators is slightly different. I wish it had notched knobs... Oh well.
this makes sense for one sequencer but what if you use both sequencers? Do they have the same rhythms or can the second be programmed differently as far as rhythms? oscillator one would be playing something different than oscillator 2, if so that would get confusing right away since they share the same rhythm knobs.
Well. Both osc share an envelope, so basically you're going to be combining them rhythmically anyway...
@@braintree56 much obliged for answering
Great and again that has filled in a hole in my knowledge. What I have been looking into for ages now is a way to change key without using midi. Don't know if it is possible but have you heard of managed to change the key once the sequence is running?
That's the next video! Already filmed it - just need to edit.
I don't believe there's a way to do it solely from the interface. Besides midi you can do it through the patchbay using VCO1. In the video, I use a Keystep.
@@braintree56 fantastic. Just watched it as it popped up in feed, thank you.
Thank you for this detailed explanation. Clock divisions and polyrhythms can sometimes be difficult to understand. Putting “OR” logic on top of that also adds interest and complexity.
This video will remove some Subharmonicons from Reverb 😂
Ha!