EMDR Therapy Demonstration: Full Protocol to Address Present Prong Complaint

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  • Опубліковано 1 тра 2018
  • Join Institute for Creative Mindfulness founder and well-known EMDR therapist Dr. Jamie Marich as she does some of her own work as patient in this demonstration, conducted by ICM senior faculty member Dr. Stephen Dansiger. The focus of this video is to work on a more present-oriented complaint after antecedent past disturbances along a theme are cleared.
    **IMPORTANT** This video is not meant to be a replacement for professional treatment. It is not a "do it yourself" EMDR therapy process. This is a clinical demonstration that can help existing EMDR
    therapists in their learning. The demonstration can also be useful in preparing clients for what to expect. However, EMDR therapy should only be conducted by a properly trained clinical professional.
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  • @maureenpowell7273
    @maureenpowell7273 Рік тому +8

    Jamie, thanks so much for your realness!! You give me courage to work on my own stuff w/EMDR-( and I’m a therapist, too), something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time. Again, thanks so very much for being so real and vulnerable. ❤️

  • @hughtube86
    @hughtube86 2 місяці тому

    23:00 singing the prayer. There it is. You are wonderful Jamie ❤

  • @Stephanie-qy5qg
    @Stephanie-qy5qg 6 років тому +10

    You blew me away when you called on your "protector figures." My EMDR therapist talked with me about this same topic over a month ago, of course, we expanded on it then and have included this. It took over a year to get through the first two phases. This isn't an easy journey. Sometimes I'm unable to see any progress, and then I remember a saying from early on in recovery "I am doing far better than I feel I am." So I go through the motions show up for EMDR 2xs a week My therapist is awesome I'm grateful, I'm coming up on an anniversary in recovery and I'm a warrior. I can't thank you enough for sharing this Jaime

  • @markwilliams5064
    @markwilliams5064 4 роки тому +5

    Hai Jamie. Thanks you so much for putting all these demonstrations online!

  • @alphabah6161
    @alphabah6161 5 років тому +10

    I was abused but since I started EMDR am getting better n better

    • @caucasianafrican1435
      @caucasianafrican1435 5 років тому

      Really? How does it make it better? Do those events have less emotional charge when you think of them, now?

  • @susanjreddig3442
    @susanjreddig3442 6 років тому +7

    Thank you Jamie, for your vulnerability to share your personal journey. You are brave. Because of your sharing I can understand my own process better and the process of the people that come across my way. I love how your truth is reaching out to bring ways of healing to many souls.

  • @dawnwolfe9465
    @dawnwolfe9465 5 років тому +6

    thank you for all your videos. I’m just getting trained in EMDR now and your videos are very helpful.

  • @stopfemotion
    @stopfemotion 5 років тому +5

    Thank you so much, this is REALLY helpful!

  • @IEMTPractitioner
    @IEMTPractitioner 2 роки тому

    This is very interesting. I use and teach IEMT which is similar to EMDR but very different at the same time. I have lots of videos about this on my channel.

  • @carmensilva5454
    @carmensilva5454 5 років тому +3

    Is this a real session on oneself? I think so, it is very beautiful and spontaneous

  • @sarahrodrigues2231
    @sarahrodrigues2231 4 роки тому

    Have you ever looked into shamanic practices/healing?

  • @SeijPonchie
    @SeijPonchie 3 роки тому +1

    Sidebar and totally not the point you were making but need to do a little checking on remarks leaning toward ableist: You can absolutely take in a song even if you don't have ears. You can absolutely take in a dance even if you don't have eyes. You can't take in either if you don't have a soul. I resonate with the feeling of trying to get people to understand my story and feel like they don't even have the infrastructure to plug in.

  • @side-eyewarrior823
    @side-eyewarrior823 6 років тому +5

    I've been doing emdr and I still can't get my mind to hold a thought without other thoughts interfering immediately. I don't know why'

    • @DrJamieMM
      @DrJamieMM  6 років тому +11

      The point is not to stay with one thought; in EMDR the flow is supposed to happen and you "go with" the things that come up. If the thoughts are truly distraction-based, your therapist ought to have some skills to help you get back on track.

    • @side-eyewarrior823
      @side-eyewarrior823 6 років тому +1

      Jamie Marich thank you so much.

  • @juancruzfernandez4699
    @juancruzfernandez4699 3 роки тому

    Hello, can someone please summarize what the video says, I don't know English, I'm using the translator, either the girl in the video is seeing this comment or other people. I am suffering from PTSD and I live hell every day, I need to know if this type of therapy can help me and I can be the same as before.

    • @ChavaJ77
      @ChavaJ77 3 роки тому

      Juan,
      se trata del proceso EMDR. No se donde vives, pero mira aquí: www.emdrmexico.org/

  • @Holypikemanz
    @Holypikemanz 4 роки тому +1

    I thought EDMR was the patient following a light with their eyes, whats this tapping stuff?

    • @staceyhaase7934
      @staceyhaase7934 4 роки тому +5

      It's called bilateral stimulation and can be accomplished in a number of ways including visual, auditory, and touch stimulation.

  • @lawrenceduff7368
    @lawrenceduff7368 5 років тому +6

    I was wondering what the source of her overreaction was, what childhood experience fueled the intense reaction? She never got in touch with the underlying feeling, instead the goal is to neutralize, desensitize whatever feelings may be there, even before she has a chance to connect to the source, which is not the current experience. Is that real healing, or just desensitizing the feelings, that maybe if they were allowed to be accessed, and to flow freely to resolution, there could be a deeper healing, that truly accesses the source of the feelings that intrude into present day interactions and create problems.
    "...if I cut people's heads off...." Where does that intensity come from? That's important, not to figure out with the mind, but to get in touch with the source of, because it indicates an intense reaction from an early experience, triggered in the present, that could be revealed by dropping into the feelings instead of tapping them away.
    I've been considering working with an EMDR therapist who would charge me $2,500 for 10 hours (five consecutive days) of sessions. He bragged that he worked with a woman who had been raped, and in one session, freed her of her PTSD symptoms. But my question is, is the goal to just be free of any distress about a traumatic experience or, to really process it through, including all the feelings that were dissociated from at the time because they were too overwhelming to the system, and her body and being had to shut down to get through the experience?
    Is PTSD not caused by the incomplete processing of the feelings, the pain, that was too overwhelming to process at the time? So, don't those feelings that were shut down, dissociated from for survival have to be allowed to surface and be felt, a piece at a time, as the body, spirit allow it to come to the surface (never pushed, or forced)?
    If a mother saw her child killed in front of her, and spontaneously expressed that unbearable pain by wailing at the top of her lungs, is that not what she needs to do, and maybe continue to do for as long as it takes, when needed over months and years possibly, to process the real pain of that experience? I'm sure there are other things needed like compassionate human connection and self compassion, but isn't being able to fully feel the real feelings core to healing?
    Is it possible that traumatic life experiences, to be truly integrated, moved through in a healthy way, maybe need to be processed over time, maybe even many years if they are cataclysmic traumas, and maybe the idea that in either of these kind of big traumas I mentioned, seeking a solution that supposedly 'processes', 'heals' the trauma in an hour or two session, without accessing the depth of the pain, and allowing it its spontaneous, full, truthful expression, might be part of our unhealthy seeking of quick fixes, bypasses of discomfort, for just about everything?
    But I can also understand, from experience with my own trauma, and knowing other trauma survivors, the prospect of getting in touch with the real core pain from trauma takes immense inner and outer resources (like a therapist who is not afraid of feeling, and witnessing intense feelings), and possibly modalities like EMDR and Somatic Experiencing, work for many people. Both don't seem to allow, or discourage, interrupt, pendulate away from a full body connection with the full intensity of the real feelings that are a natural result of overwhelming trauma experiences.
    I don't want to criticize anything that actually helps people, but these questions arise for me.

    • @himmelblau23
      @himmelblau23 4 роки тому

      I think this is a very wise and insightful comment. I too feel that real healing comes from addressing the traumas at their root, not merely cutting off the symptoms. I recently read a quite book called EMDR therapy and adjunct approaches in children - complex trauma, attachment and dissociation, which very much talks about tracing things to their source, and healing them there, both by expressing and releasing the buried emotions and by creating and internalising "reparative experiences" and positive cognitions in an imaginative way, to replace the unhealthy legacy of the trauma with better things. I would be interested to know what your search since you wrote this comment has brought you to, as you seem to be looking for the same things that I am

    • @lawrenceduff7368
      @lawrenceduff7368 3 роки тому +1

      @Pink Salt @Pink Salt If you meant, did I go to an EMDR practitioner, I didn't go to the one I mentioned, but did have three conversations with another EMDR practitioner to decide if what he had to offer felt like it would benefit me.
      I didn't mention that I have had my own means of processing my trauma, that came out of my experience with Primal Therapy many years ago, and has served me well. It is utterly simple, natural, and accesses stored trauma pain directly, and has given me great relief from the effects of life threatening violent and sexual abuse (the worst was as a toddler). But I have had questions about these other modalities, like EMDR, whether there might be something in them that might facilitate what I've already been doing, mainly bring more of a resolution to the processing I already experience, which has continued for many years, or, whether with the kind of extreme trauma I've been healing from, it can really take many years to process, that that's just the way it is.
      My conversations with the 2nd EMDR therapist were friendly and interesting and seemed to end up with him agreeing more with what I've already been doing, so I didn't end up having any sessions with him. I've also been observing a younger friend who has been having periodic sessions with this practitioner, and has made progress, but still isn't fully connected with his core trauma, but has had some release experiences in small, more manageable doses. So, is right for him, but it seems not for me.
      The kind of direct accessing the full intensity of the trauma pain is way to scary for most people, but I have found, if you're ready for it (big if), is not 'retraumatizing' as some trauma specialists warn people, but the body, our spirit seems to only bring up what can be safely processed at a given time, and is self regulating, meaning the direct experience of the pain only goes on for as much as we can feel/process at a given time, possibly in multiple waves, then just dissipates, comes to a resolution. But this kind of trauma processing needs a safe foundation, emotionally, possibly spiritually, to be able to be experienced safely, especially on an ongoing basis.
      But I can understand how modalities like EMDR, Somatic Experiencing, and Family Systems could be helpful for people who cannot do the kind of deeper processing that I've been experiencing. But I suspect that some of them might come to a point where they might feel an intuitive need to simply allow themselves, in their body, to just fully let themselves feel the full intensity of whatever feeling they come up against, rather than backing away from it to 'desensitize', or 'titrate', or 'pendulate'. To be able to trust their intuition and spirit that if they allow that feeling to spontaneously wash over them fully, that like an ocean wave, it will rise, break, and move through, and then dissipate safely in resolution. But, especially to start, they may also need a safe therapist/practitioner who can be present for that kind of intensity, if it spontaneously arises. The main thing is that it not be forced, a person not pushed into something they are not ready for.
      For myself, I started with a therapist/practitioner, but later learned I could process on my own, but for many years had a close friend/mentor also moving through her own 'primal process' that provided some needed compassionate support, empathy.

    • @dinab2942
      @dinab2942 2 роки тому +1

      yes of course. EMDR consolidates and reprocesses traumatic memories that have not been properly processed through the healing process that you are describing. ir does not shut them down. it consolidates and reprocesses.

    • @lilbbillzz
      @lilbbillzz 2 роки тому +1

      I know this comment is 2 years old, but I wanted to chime in. I have done Emotional Release Therapy, and my experiences align with what you’re describing. my practitioner encourages full expression of emotion, including wailing like you described. her name is Laura (Soulful Toz here on UA-cam). you could check out her demo videos of ERT. I am starting EMDR soon, and while I have faith it’ll be effective in “neutralizing” my distress, I ultimately want to work through my trauma in ERT because it’s so holistic and integrative. ERT is energetic and spiritual, and after experiencing that modality, I have a bit of concern that the bounds of EMDR may feel somewhat constricting in contrast to ERT. if you can’t tell, I’d choose ERT over EMDR any day, but Laura lives 1000s of miles away from me so I can’t access therapy with her the way I’d want to.

  • @thelizardyt728
    @thelizardyt728 5 років тому +1

    I hate this treatment.scares me.

  • @tarrahswann4454
    @tarrahswann4454 4 місяці тому

    Def not

  • @Holypikemanz
    @Holypikemanz 4 роки тому

    max cringe...

  • @loririchards9211
    @loririchards9211 4 роки тому

    Total cult

  • @loririchards9211
    @loririchards9211 4 роки тому

    Way too faaat

  • @alphabah6161
    @alphabah6161 5 років тому +7

    I was abused but since I started EMDR am getting better n better

    • @MrDominic600
      @MrDominic600 5 років тому

      Alpha Bah emotionally abused? How’d emdr change your perspective on the abuse and how you viewed life/others/yourself as a result of that abuse?