My mom's Suzuki Samurai back then was like a freaking tank! Then when my parents sold it, an off-road fan bought it! AND IT'S STILL ALIVE up to this point! That's like 25+ years
Imagine being so petty that you change your magazine's testing procedures and deliberately and permanently screw up the reputation of an entire company just because you got into an accident and got lightly injured.
I have a suspicion that they did it (and continue to do it) for more than just the samurai. Don't ever listen to, or take advice from, consumer reports.
David Lindsey same feeling! A story like this should have destroyed them. Suzuki should have gone forward with the lawsuit to teach these third party companies a lesson on fair reviews. I believe in these cases, company reps must be present during testing.
They also had just purchased a new building and were on the verge of bankruptcy. They were looking for an issue that would prove that Consumer Reports was necessary and up their magazine sales. For years they fought in court stating that they were performing a public service, therefor Suzuki should not be able to sue them. Isuzu also sued for the Trooper II and won.
@@TactfullyBlunt I've never thought CR was a reputable source, especially when it comes to cars. On the other hand, I drove a Suzuki Samarai in the 90s. Absolute junk! Horrible. And don't forget CR always trashes the Jeep Wrangler.
Funfacts: The newest Jimny sells like hotcakes here in Germany. Used Jimny are sold for over 25k€, but the retail price of Suzuki is 20k€. They just can't meet the demand. People say the Jimny is what the g-class used to be: a workhorse. It almost looks like a miniature g-class and with those nice bodykits from Japan it actually looks like a miniature g-class.
Ladies and gentlemen and car nerds today (tonight for me ) I would like hold a toast on an achievement of a fellow donut media fan Pagani Gaming the legend as we know him. So congratulations on completing 200 days of asking James to do an up to speed on his dad . Cheers!
Day 3 Update: Father is unresponsive. He must be in shock that he was wrong this whole time and can’t seem to grapple with this fact. He left yesterday to get cigarettes and I’m hopeful that he will return soon.
Not this US driver, one of my neighbors growing up had one, and used to use it anytime it snowed, I would trust it over his 4x4 Diesel trucks he had at the time.
In 1988, I went with my dad to the Suzuki dealer where he bought a gray hard top Samurai. He passed away in 2016, and I am planning to do a full body-off restoration on it in memory of him. So many great memories in that little SUV driving all over the US in it with my mom & dad. It has a manual transmission, and I passed my driving test to get my license in it when I was 16.
@@grandetaco4416 If you already know the testing was rigged in order to make them flip, and know that they aren't as easy to flip as the Bronco 2, why would you ask such a dumb question?
Funny that this vehicle is currently being made for Indian military on order because it is super reliable and go any where But a butthurt journalist declared it unsafe
Yes, but I think there's a few small differences in the global spec Suzuki Samurai and the India spec Gypsy, most probably the engine. Gypsy originally had a tiny 1.0L NA engine and then a 1.3L NA
The Jimny is wildly popular here in Australia, there's something like a two year waiting list for the 4th generation. In fact they’re so popular I wrote my car off into the back of one.
From the videos, the Samurai was actually very difficult to roll over despite numerous tries and being a tall offroad SUV.... what a shaddy company CR is...
They actually modified the course by shortening the distance between the cones and ran it 32 more times than the other vehicles they tested that day (Jeep Wrangler and Isuzu Rodeo). In the raw footage there's the voice of a Consumers Union VP demanding "You tip that car or I'll find someone who will!". Even the driver logs from their most seasoned driver said, "The Suzuki Samurai poses no significant safety risk and outperforms all vehicles tested today."
@@nrgzrbny Yes..... all of us watched the video as well.... There's no need to repeat the audio word for word as though they are your own thoughts/opinions.
I don't know of any other scandals that they were found to have taken part in, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. However, overall they are the exact opposite of shady. The idea of making a whole magazine based upon holding companies accountable for their products and claims by paying verified customers to submit feedback on products after a certain length of ownership is an _excellent_ idea that benefits everyone in our society. They gather and compile LOTS of feedback data from customers and sell "packages" of this data to the companies involved for them to use as a guide for how to improve the next iteration of their product(s). (I just realized I am actually thinking of the J.D. Power Survey, which is for vehicles specifically, but Consumer Reports operates under the same philosophy and goal of simply informing consumers and holding companies accountable to encourage meaningful improvements, so I still think that they should be seen as a force for good that simply might have had some bad apples, or temporary lapses of judgement due to external pressures of the time)
Luke Galt We have the Ford Bronco now, which will appeal to the American market more than the Jimny. The Jimny is pretty cool but it’s too small and weak for American consumers’ tastes.
Can confirm, they’re actually quiet stable on the road. I spent many a times trying to get a little 3 wheel action on roundabouts back in the day but nooooo haha. In australia they’re badged as a sierra
Hahaha lol "got scold by my mom because someone snitched that i donut her 4th gen jimny in her farm" This small, economy boxes are freaking beasts when it comes to carrying stuff across terrains
Indian military used to use this car until 2018 It was called the “Gypsy”here in India and was sold to the public till last years until emissions and Safety Norms killed it Oh and also it was in use since like the 1980s or smthing
17:15 "It's available in Japan, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines..." And oh, one more tiny little market you might not have heard of... The flipping EUROPE! We love these little cars. In the previous gen Jimny you can easily swap the engine for a larger Suzuki Swift engine - it's the same family of engines (M13 and M16) and bolts on the original transmission, so it's easy-peasy - and you get 136hp for cheap in this bad boy, which is more than enough in such a small 4x4! Add to that the convertible chassis and you have the coolest little off-roader ever :)
You are right, if by "male Karen" you mean someone paid by Chrysler. One does not risk his reputation just to randomly spite a small car maker, there had to be something bigger behind it.
Fake news, and the failure of people to handle fake news, is f-ing up the world. People cry "fake news" without basis, and when there is actual "fake news" there is no consequence for lying out of your backside.
Self inflicted wound; many Americans blindly boast of stupid things. Same nonsense happend when Tesla (an American company) came round. Everyone started hating it. Tesla is/was(?) more American than many American automobile companies. Lies, deception, manipulation, ... all propelled by idiots blindly voting by emotion.
@@commenterperson4481 I agree. I watch people time and time again buy another American car and complain because of all the things going wrong with them in less than 5 years. I swear most American manufacturers just bank on people buying their cars just because they're domestic and don't bother to actually make a quality product that can directly compete with imports. While at the same time we have laws in place that make it more difficult for outside manufacturers to sell their cars in the states.
We have raid de himalaya..which is a pretty gnarly rally course..which is till date dominated by the gypsies..that's what it's called here..and the indian army uses them too.
I have mine going 4 years now never had a roll ..... the dam thing is awesome , Americans are just f@$led up like that . Going to buy the new Jimmy next
@@kahlilchin9890 we rolled it when we ramped it to high. It just rolled over onto the top, and was still running for a while. Just got out and tipped it back over lol. Luckily we've got a good roll cage. Got our samari for 800
I was watching the 2019 New York Auto Show video from Regular Car Reviews yesterday and saw that Suzuki taunted us Anglo North Americans with a Jimny we can likely never have. :(
American here, living in the Philippines. Just trying to decide if I really want one due to the fact that they cost very similarly to a hilux and you soo much with a hilux.
Wow that's so messed up. I remember watching the news and telling my aunt to sell it because it was unsafe. I'll never trust consumer reports ever again
@@MeNoWorryYouNoWorry I get what you are saying but it's hard to do your own research when a lot of sources that used to be regarded as reliable turn out to be less than honest. Not everyone has the resources to to test drive multiple cars and run them through rigorous testing. That is the problem, I think that companies like this need to be regulated to a high standard and VERY PUBLICLY nailed to the wall with huge fines when they do shady stuff like on this case.
@@MeNoWorryYouNoWorry well people nowadays do their own research but the "I fucking love science" and "trust the science" group of fat balding soy hate that so now we're in deep shit
I wouldn't recommend judging an entire company based on a single incident from decades ago that was only about a specific type of product. Overall, what they do is very good and helpful to us consumers. Gathering and processing consumer feedback at the national level in order to help people make informed purchasing decisions and to hold companies accountable for their claims, as well as encourage meaningful improvements, is unquestionably a service that is beneficial to everyone. However, considering what they did to the adorable Samurai, I think it's safe to take their reports with a grain of salt and simply compare their results with at least 1 or 2 other sources instead of relying on their word alone.
I’m in Toronto, this lady who goes to my local Church drives a Mint X90 in manual. She said it was her first ever car she bought back in the 90’s and would never trade it. She gets constantly approached by people and been pulled over by people in G-Wagons with Offers and she’s turned down all of them. Seeing a car like that being daily driven here in Canada is literally like finding a Unicorn. With all that harsh winters and Salt
In the UK, the Samurai(or Jimny as it’s called here) is seen as an incredibly competent off roader and was incredibly popular. Such a shame that a random guy with a grudge managed to kill it off in the states.
When I started watching this video... My 1st thought was... damnnn that's Maruti-Suzuki Gypsy... We Indians admire & love that car... Infact the Indian Military used to use this car... It's rare to find 1 now in India though...
I always thought those little 4x4 were kind of cool but when the report came out that they were unsafe no one would be caught dead in them. The thing is, you could still see them on the street occasionally and I would wonder why someone would drive a death trap. It seems they knew something I didn't.
Daimler-Chrysler was "forced" to do a costly redesign the Jeep (widen the track) because of the same crap. Their fender flares are part of the result. I'm sure they had butt-hurt, and were no doubt in support of the anti-Sami propaganda.
@@norsefalconer , Who is going to add all of the safety equipment, like air bags, crumple zones, ABS/Stability Control etc? It is more than simply adding brake lights and turn signals. These are 4 wheeled vehicles, not 3 wheeled vehicles which fall under the Motorcycle classification and do not need those items. I know that California makes you Register All vehicles, be they off road only, like dirt bikes and side by sides. But those are not registered for street use, that is a money grab.
@@norsefalconer What? When was this "force" and by whom? Otherwise I call Farce. I know that the Wrangler was widened by Jeep for other reasons, and the fender flares were on there far longer than the wider axles to keep mud, rocks and other debris from hitting not only the other vehicles on the road, but also the driver and passengers. Ask me how I know. Even with the fender flares on, when you have your window rolled down or the doors off, you'll still get a face full of crap when you turn the steering wheel and have the ground speed fast enough.
I bought a brand new 1988 Samurai when they came out and loved it! A brand new car for $6995! Then about 6 months later the BS reports came out. Complete BS but year it killed the brand. I continued to drive mine for 10+ years putting 130,000 miles on it before selling it for $500. I still miss that little thing. Loved it!
The Record was made in Chile “ojos del salado” is an amazing volcano. My first car ever was a Samurai II, as It was labeled here the 98’ model, then 99 we got the 3rd gen Jimny wich sold largely over our country, people love it because it’s tough and an excellent 4x4 especially for Chile that has a lot of high mountains , deserts and rough terrains, incredible vehicle all the way!!💪🏽💪🏽
since the launch of the latest jimny, there has been a wait time of 2-5 years in UK, japan, New Zealand and South africa, those people love small 4X4 cars.
@@192lalo Yes but no, its not the government's job to protect international companies from competition from the market. Case in point the fact that after the lawsuit the government did not investigate nor punished Consumer Reports
Fun Fact: The 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon got 1 Star at ANCAP and EURONCAP while the Jimny got 3 stars. And then the wrangler rolled over in the two crash test made by the IIHS. But CR says no word about it. And curiously CR did all this just a year later the Samurai outsell the wrangler 2 to 1... what a curious thing?
That's what they can do to car manufacturers. Imagine what they could do to green energy companies when they get to become big enough to outsell fossil fuels. Capitalism at it's finest.
Consumer Reports still does the same kind of thing. If every car was "good" people wouldn't buy their magazine. Fiat is the latest automotive casualty due to lack of Consumer Reports favor. They literally counted buyer's difficulty with pairing Bluetooth on the 500L as a "reliability" issue. They failed to recognize the one-year issues of transmission problems of the 500L (which mysteriously only affected US models with the exact same transmission as European models which seemed unaffected), did not continue into the second year of production and continued to lambast the later year models for perceived reliability issues that had been resolved after the first year. Many of their judgments are purely "opinion" but they pass them off as fact. For example, on the Fiat 500 summary, it says "this two-door suffers from a choppy ride and a noisy cabin, which detract from the fun." .... Ask any 500 owner, and the RIDE that CR is complaining about is the #1 SOURCE of its fun. It actually communicates road feel to you in a way most modern cars do not, which make it very engaging to drive. Yet Consumer Reports seems to think driving a sofa is more fun - therefore they downrate any vehicle that's not cushy in the way they like. Even their "death rates per million registered vehicles" is incredibly damaging to the industry. It shows larger vehicles as "safer", yet does not account for who the drivers of these vehicles are. Smaller vehicles like a Ford Fiesta or Chevy Sonic tend to be driven by younger less affluent buyers, who as a whole, are at MUCH higher risk of being involved in accidents. Compared to things like Chevrolet Suburbans, which are driven by people who tend to have many more years of experience driving and are less likely to be "hooning" around. When you look at actual crash safety data, Consumer Reports' claim that giant SUVs are nearly twice as safe dissolved into the lies they are.
India have home grown brand that still makes original Jeeps licensed, we have wranglers too coz jeep is officially available in india , we have home grown wrangler competition too . Soon, SUZUKI will start the biggest production facility for the gimny thats in india. Suzuki is planning a lwb version specifically for india and then might export it to other countries as well. So , soon Pakistan might start getting cheaper gimnies coz of the production facility in india.
I've been some really out of the way places in a samurai. Very capable vehicle, with decent tires, it went where you pointed it, the highest compliment I can give an off road vehicle.
Hughh those new Jimnys are looking so good. I live in Canada and most of the Suzuki off-roaders legacy is slowly falling into rust, or pieces or both at the same time. Good condition Suzuki 4x4s are now a rarity
I had a samurai. It was easy to service (for the basic stuff I did, anyway), since the engine compartment was so spacious. It was also quite competent off-road in the Arizona deserts. Of course, it also had bus-like steering, suspension, and acceleration (also mine had no a/c which was brutal in Phoenix). On the whole, it was a fun little vehicle.
I had a 2000 Suzuki Vitara 2.1L 4x4 manual transmission and I was amazed at it's ability to go through pretty much anything (mud/snow). I never ever got it stuck and it went through some hairy stuff. It was my daily driver so I didn't try to bury it in a mud hole. Im going to miss getting out during big snow storms and cruising through the country having a blast damn I wish I didn't have to get rid of it lol. Some of my favorite memories in that thing was during heavy snow when no one dared get out (except other 4x4s) and I'd be driving around as if everything was fine.
My buddy had an 86 samurai with a 3 inch lift and some other work done to it, and that little thing would go anywhere. As far as rolling it over- you had to actually try to get it to flip, and we did. If you had 4 guys with you you could also stand it back up and keep ok driving 😁
I love my 87 samurai. I had it since i was 16. Ran when parked but not the case. Engine was seized. Put a 1.6 8v in it from a geo tracker. *ITS A BEAST* Go anywhere any time i have the old school buckshot bias oly tires on it. Never been stuck since i had these tires on it.
Fun story: the first jeep was based on a compact truck built by a company called American Bantam. It was optioned by the US Army Quartermaster Corps for modification as a light transport carrier, and then they sent the plans to over a hundred car companies. Ford and Willys overland were the only ones that built one to compete for the contract. Henry Ford was basically trying to steal the truck and take over production for the war effort, and Ford was actually the company that invented the stamped slotted grill that became symbolic of jeeps. Willys was the third or fourth company to build a jeep, even checker, the cab company, put together three crate jeeps from bantam when bantam contracted with them to expand production capacity. Bantam was relegated to building jeep trailers after the army gave away their plans, willys overland died off when they were bought out by Kaiser after a decade of legal battle with bantam about the patents for the jeep, kaiser jeep died when chrysler bought them, and now it's all Fiat. Jeep is a lie.
Had a Suzuki Sidekick 4door, 4wd, lifted and big tires and have fond memories of sliding that puppy sideways around the turns on fire roads while covering/escaping forest fires as a photojournalist. One of the most nimble and reliable underpowered fun trucks I ever had. 350K miles.
@@BAYBOSSMAN the isuzu trooper with was a very good offroad vehicle for it's price. Having a 4 link rear and a good torque on demand system. I am on my second trooper and it makes it most places jeeps can't. It has a more dramatic story of it's fate then the samurai
My stepdad had one of those when I was a teenager. That thing was a BEAST! It’s what I used to learn how to drive a standard. I watched it pull a full sized Chevy van and 16ft. trailer out of the mud. Freaking awesome!
@@tormentor6737 SJ30/SJ40 or second gen jimny from 1981. From the video American version looks smaller because a standard gypsy king has rear passenger capacity of of four. In Wikipedia The Indian built SJ-410 has only ever been available in a long-wheelbase version. The Gypsy remains in production for the Indian Subcontinent market. The version still produced in India by Maruti Suzuki is the Maruti Gypsy King, using the sixteen valve, 80 hp (60 kW) 1.3 liter G13 engine. The Gypsy King has proved popular with the Indian armed forces and police units.
Imagine being so stuck up about your “unbeatable” 4x4 jeep that you put a sign up pretty much begging someone with a more capable offroader to beat the record... and having the sign being brought down by a dude with a smaller engine and smaller car that had design cues taken from the exact same company. Im a MOPAR guy at heart, but i do enjoy cheering for the underdog
Lol underdog? They set that record with a stock Jeep and it was beat by a highly modified Samuri that was running a supercharged 4 cylinder under the hood. The Jeep was the underdog
somethingtough they still broke the record. And they are still an underdog cuz suzuki isnt all that popular in the name of cars here in the states. I can count the amount of times ive seen a suzuki car on one hand. And im pretty sure that theres been modified jeeps that have driven up the pass, theres no way there hasnt been
@@somethingtough Are you on drugs? The "stock Jeep" you are talking about was a brand new, top of the range Rubicon Unlimited "factory prepared" for offroad in oxygen-deprived high altitude environments; it also had winches and special tyres. The team running the Jeeps (there were 2 of them) had many support vehicles and a full team of Jeep mechanics with them. The drivers were part of a professional offroad racing team from Germany. Did I mention the whole stint was sponsored, planned and conceived by Jeep? The suzuki was a 1986 model with a supercharger off a Mercedes C class Kompressor (DIY fitted, there is no kit for such a conversion), lifted suspension and some tyres, prepared and driven by 2 amateur mechanics and offroad drivers, with no support vehicles, no external sponsorships and financing. So who is the underdog here?
@@thudtheace I never had a Bronco II, but remember when they came out. Even then I did not like them. They seemed to be a cheap plastic copy of the original (1965-1977), the vehicle nich they were meant to recapture. IMO, the biggest problem is Ford left out what made the original desirable. In hindsight the B2 should have been designed with a removable top and an interior that you would not fear getting rained on. That might have made the desirable even today. As is now, unlike 40 year old CJs, no one cares about saving them or rebuilding them.
I had a '96 Suzuki Sierra (Australian version of the Samurai) with a soft-top and the the coil spring suspension they later put under the Jimny. That thing was the most fun car I've ever owned. I recently bought a 1980s 'long-wheelbase' Sierra to make into a unique weapon.
S M I was worried whenever a a large semi passed me. It was so light that as it passed the samurai swayed. Scary, but I must stress nothing ever happened. It was a great vehicle for long road trips because it was amazing with gas. I took it Baja on the weekends. Perfect for that
Just from a quick look at the internet the Farmworker 4x4 was a rebadged Maruti Gipsy which couldn't be registered cause it failed crash safety standards.
@@nathansstuff1547 Yeah I think I see the article you are looking at, same one they took the image from for the video. Hes talking about British laws though not New Zealand. i've seen some of the early Suzuki for sale in NZ, but very rusty. There is still some very rough examples in Southland, one used daily between Queenstown and fiver rivers.
My mother (70+) bought the new jimny as soon as it was available, she love the car. She was driving the samurai for over 20 years and thought it was time for a new one. Just at the moment the new jimny was announced.
ive gotten oversteer and understeer in my sidekick. only 2 inches and tires to fit tho, nothing too crazy. i wont report back after i get it on a trail because 1 im not gonna freakin roll the thing, and 2 ill definitely forget this video and this comment exist
@@jackradzelovage6961 it was fun when it happened, lol. We flipped it back over and continued trail riding. I love those little things I want to get one!
@@blackpinkoffical I can't tell if your comment is in favor of or against those companies or if overseas is including CR. No comment on their reputation, but they are based out of New York.
Allow me to potentially add to your need for this car. People routinely stuff RX7 rotary motors onto this little beast... watch this one from Puerto Rico. (An US territory.) ua-cam.com/video/Gp-rGXcOmFI/v-deo.html (Just be careful with the volume, its VERY LOUD even idling!)
Americans are all about liability and litigation. Cars that are sold must be "safe" or else the manufacturer will get sued and banned. But people can do whatever they want as now that's their own fault. It's not about keeping people safe, it's about avoiding blame and lawsuits.
@Coni Glione I think it was more a matter of the Consumer Reports people having a grudge against it, then getting stuck in a mindset of confirmation bias and wishing to make their own reality than find the actual truth. They set out to show that it was dangerous, and that's what they did, regardless of the truth. While the US auto industry has famously done a lot of crappy things to keep out foreign competitors, I don't get the sense, at least based on this video, that Jeep had any role in it this time. But if thinking of Jeep and other similar vehicles, if Consumer Reports were being fair they should have done the same over-the-top tests, performed exactly the same, with other vehicles and see if they too tipped when pushed that far.
This was the first car roll over I was involved in as a passenger. Mind you, my 'mate' was driving it like a skateboard completing an insane turn off a 45deg embankment. With me hanging in my seatbelt laying in glass, he didn't say are you ok, he said, well...... looks like I'm getting that Ford.....
2020 and a similar car- Maruti Suzuki Gypsy is still in active service for the Indian Army. It's dead agile, light weight, easy to work on with low maintenance, has climbed the mountains of Himalayas, to cold deserts in Leh and total burning desert of Rajasthan. It has actually been very reliable too.
This has to be one of my favorite episodes yet, I can’t wait to show everyone this video. So sick and tired of people telling me how samurais roll over, I’ve even tried to Roll mine and it’s really difficult🤣
Yeah, the worst thing is that other people get other vehicles confused with Jimny’s, I have a Subaru brumby, and 11 people have told me how unsafe it is and how easy to tip it is, yet I literally drove it on the side of a hill and floored it while turning and it just sucked itself down and wouldn’t even budge. I tried to roll it on the most tractioned ground I could and it just ripped up a huge track Anyone saying a [insert vehicle with s in the name] is unsafe are really stuck in the wrong era of cars
Again a big thank you, My Vehicle Ownership class loved this one today and we launched into a great chat about mini 4X4's and other rides of notable reputation but my goodness the CJ was small back then eh?
I’m stuck now in Phillippines during pandemic so I used time to my advantage by buying Jimney and falling in love with it. Thanks for honest truth donut
philippines is all about japanese cars. only polticians and rich dudes buy german and american brands. what island are you stuck in? the roads are quite clear now because much of public transport is down because of this pandemic.. no jeepneys at the moment..
Here in India, the Suzuki Samurai or "Gypsy"has a cult following! We got almost all the variants and had production till 2014. Sadly due to the new emission norms the production has been stopped. That free revving gasoline engine and short wheelbase made an off-road beast! Epic car. Our Miltary still uses it. Its been produced exclusively for them as the Miltary doesn't give a fuck about emission norms lmao😏
@@diegoeliasindriago7991 I love the jealousy of people towards America. We get bigger cars than the rest of the world. Small cars had their niche then, but not now. We like demolishing small houses for big ones.
I had a 1987 Suzuki Samurai it was such a cool vehicle. Drove it across the desert in Nevada, I mean on dirt roads from Jean, NV to Pahrump, NV. Dirt roads the whole with 4 people in the car. It never left me stranded, easy to push start, easy to work on and never got stuck. Only traded it in after a Suzuki dealership messed with the carb and never ran right after that. It was awesome when the boys from Roadkill put a Mopar V8 in one and hauled ass in it.
My mom's Suzuki Samurai back then was like a freaking tank! Then when my parents sold it, an off-road fan bought it! AND IT'S STILL ALIVE up to this point! That's like 25+ years
Imagine being so petty that you change your magazine's testing procedures and deliberately and permanently screw up the reputation of an entire company just because you got into an accident and got lightly injured.
I have a suspicion that they did it (and continue to do it) for more than just the samurai.
Don't ever listen to, or take advice from, consumer reports.
Honestly, I always thought Consumer Reports was a reputable source, I know this happened a long time ago but I'll never trust them again.
David Lindsey same feeling! A story like this should have destroyed them. Suzuki should have gone forward with the lawsuit to teach these third party companies a lesson on fair reviews. I believe in these cases, company reps must be present during testing.
They also had just purchased a new building and were on the verge of bankruptcy. They were looking for an issue that would prove that Consumer Reports was necessary and up their magazine sales.
For years they fought in court stating that they were performing a public service, therefor Suzuki should not be able to sue them. Isuzu also sued for the Trooper II and won.
@@TactfullyBlunt I've never thought CR was a reputable source, especially when it comes to cars. On the other hand, I drove a Suzuki Samarai in the 90s. Absolute junk! Horrible. And don't forget CR always trashes the Jeep Wrangler.
Funfacts: The newest Jimny sells like hotcakes here in Germany. Used Jimny are sold for over 25k€, but the retail price of Suzuki is 20k€. They just can't meet the demand.
People say the Jimny is what the g-class used to be: a workhorse. It almost looks like a miniature g-class and with those nice bodykits from Japan it actually looks like a miniature g-class.
Same in Indonesia, people seem to love the new Jimny
i want a jimny
@@p0t4toePotato we want the jimny
Philippines here, I want the Jimny!
Fiat-Chrysler sued Mahindra for building an off-road only Roxor, which was the closest we could get in the U.S.
"This thing tips over at high speeds!"
*ignores literally all other SUV's
Ladies and gentlemen and car nerds today (tonight for me ) I would like hold a toast on an achievement of a fellow donut media fan Pagani Gaming the legend as we know him. So congratulations on completing 200 days of asking James to do an up to speed on his dad . Cheers!
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I remember my dad calling it the “Suzuki Suicide.”
Just sent this to him. Thank you for this rundown!
What was his reaction?
!remindme 72hrs
Yeah how did he reacted
It is already three days. Is your dad ok? What did he say?
Day 3 Update: Father is unresponsive. He must be in shock that he was wrong this whole time and can’t seem to grapple with this fact. He left yesterday to get cigarettes and I’m hopeful that he will return soon.
US drivers: oh heck this 4x4 is so unsafe
The rest of the world: finally some good hecking off roader
That's why you never listen to consumer reports.
But we had the Ford Bronco II, which actually rolled over and killed people, which was ok
Donutdoode69 but guess what they are still being sold there in America because it is not an import. I swear America hates losing lol
Not this US driver, one of my neighbors growing up had one, and used to use it anytime it snowed, I would trust it over his 4x4 Diesel trucks he had at the time.
@@arkekkers No it's just the government that hates losing.
In 1988, I went with my dad to the Suzuki dealer where he bought a gray hard top Samurai. He passed away in 2016, and I am planning to do a full body-off restoration on it in memory of him. So many great memories in that little SUV driving all over the US in it with my mom & dad. It has a manual transmission, and I passed my driving test to get my license in it when I was 16.
You've had this since 1988 and it hasn't flipped over yet? 😱Amazing!
@@grandetaco4416 If you already know the testing was rigged in order to make them flip, and know that they aren't as easy to flip as the Bronco 2, why would you ask such a dumb question?
Thank you
@@vwbug1975 ever heard of sarcasm?
It’s OCTOBER 2024. How is the restoration of the grey hardtop Samurai going ?
Funny that this vehicle is currently being made for Indian military on order because it is super reliable and go any where
But a butthurt journalist declared it unsafe
@Aryan Thakur thats sick
My guess is that journalist was on money red so(made the fake news) the Samurai was axed out in US
they started early with the fake news.
Yes, but I think there's a few small differences in the global spec Suzuki Samurai and the India spec Gypsy, most probably the engine. Gypsy originally had a tiny 1.0L NA engine and then a 1.3L NA
I have driven a Samurai, they were not as bad as they say, but it was to be respected.
Fake "news" has ruined America. Cant even have a Suzuki like the rest of the world :(
And we can't have shit in Detroit.
@@achmadtaufiqurrohman0282 is it illegal to take a shit In detroit?
im in arizona and have a registered Suzuki samurai. its not illegal as far as i know
This country was founded on the idea of fake news, dont like it get out.
@@whateverguy3600 I think he means new ones
The Jimny is wildly popular here in Australia, there's something like a two year waiting list for the 4th generation. In fact they’re so popular I wrote my car off into the back of one.
$30k in NZ for the nice one.
yup, i got it after 1 year of waiting list in indonesia.
it was also sold under the name Holden Drover!
@@charlieshaw5380 Looks like they're Holden off on delivery
I got a 2002 a susuki jimny and it's all lies I send it round corners going 70 and it's abit sketchy but it doesn't tip
From the videos, the Samurai was actually very difficult to roll over despite numerous tries and being a tall offroad SUV.... what a shaddy company CR is...
They actually modified the course by shortening the distance between the cones and ran it 32 more times than the other vehicles they tested that day (Jeep Wrangler and Isuzu Rodeo). In the raw footage there's the voice of a Consumers Union VP demanding "You tip that car or I'll find someone who will!". Even the driver logs from their most seasoned driver said, "The Suzuki Samurai poses no significant safety risk and outperforms all vehicles tested today."
@Lee Iacoca Judging from your comment and grammar. You seem to lack intelligence.
@@nrgzrbny Yes..... all of us watched the video as well.... There's no need to repeat the audio word for word as though they are your own thoughts/opinions.
I don't know of any other scandals that they were found to have taken part in, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. However, overall they are the exact opposite of shady. The idea of making a whole magazine based upon holding companies accountable for their products and claims by paying verified customers to submit feedback on products after a certain length of ownership is an _excellent_ idea that benefits everyone in our society. They gather and compile LOTS of feedback data from customers and sell "packages" of this data to the companies involved for them to use as a guide for how to improve the next iteration of their product(s).
(I just realized I am actually thinking of the J.D. Power Survey, which is for vehicles specifically, but Consumer Reports operates under the same philosophy and goal of simply informing consumers and holding companies accountable to encourage meaningful improvements, so I still think that they should be seen as a force for good that simply might have had some bad apples, or temporary lapses of judgement due to external pressures of the time)
The new Jimny is genuinely one of few cars I would buy new because it's so adorable. So glad they're sold in Bahrain 🇧🇭.
You live over there eh cool! Just started my channel where I take trucks to the mountains and break em Hoping to make some people laugh.
من جد
I really love mine! I Live in Denmark(Europe)
@@lukegalt8105 hey hey luke guess what, WHO NEEDS A JIMNY RIGHT? haha Americans
Luke Galt We have the Ford Bronco now, which will appeal to the American market more than the Jimny. The Jimny is pretty cool but it’s too small and weak for American consumers’ tastes.
"The Samurai easily rolls over in turns".
Meanwhile I'm doing donuts in my third generation Jimny 😂
Can confirm, they’re actually quiet stable on the road. I spent many a times trying to get a little 3 wheel action on roundabouts back in the day but nooooo haha. In australia they’re badged as a sierra
good
Laughing in my lifted daihatsu rocky🤣
Someday I’ll buy a Suzuki samurai or geo tracker I love it
Hahaha lol
"got scold by my mom because someone snitched that i donut her 4th gen jimny in her farm"
This small, economy boxes are freaking beasts when it comes to carrying stuff across terrains
I honestly think that Suzuki is one of the most underrated car manufacturers ever
not here in asia, they're one of the top selling brands here
Because it is very poor build quality and outdated features
This.
DIVYANSH TYAGI my 2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara has 180XXX kms on it and apart from regular maintenance, I’ve only had to replace the battery. They’re mint
Lucas Van Hamburg hahaha for real
Here in chile the samurai is a legend and nobody ever questioned his security
Yeah, its like a cheap but more reliable Wrangler
It's the same here in israel
They're everywhere in germany
yep same in Indo
Same in South Africa
Indian military used to use this car until 2018
It was called the “Gypsy”here in India and was sold to the public till last years until emissions and Safety Norms killed it
Oh and also it was in use since like the 1980s or smthing
If you know they actually opened and assembled the car in about 60 seconds lol
Ye bhai
It was used extensively by police too
Yo i still have one.
@@bhartishingole854 Don't forget Bolero
17:15 "It's available in Japan, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines..." And oh, one more tiny little market you might not have heard of... The flipping EUROPE! We love these little cars. In the previous gen Jimny you can easily swap the engine for a larger Suzuki Swift engine - it's the same family of engines (M13 and M16) and bolts on the original transmission, so it's easy-peasy - and you get 136hp for cheap in this bad boy, which is more than enough in such a small 4x4! Add to that the convertible chassis and you have the coolest little off-roader ever :)
Even though it won't last because of emissions
In France they already stopped selling it
Same in the Middle East, they do sell Jinmy there.
EU legislation pushed it out this year.
"136hp is enough for a 4wd". Yeah nah suzuki is somehow dead but also making cars.
Suzuki is a laundry for the triads.
This feels like a documentary on the origin of the first ever recorded male Karen who took down an entire company
11 Hours after posting, still underrated comment lol
Chad btw
You are right, if by "male Karen" you mean someone paid by Chrysler.
One does not risk his reputation just to randomly spite a small car maker, there had to be something bigger behind it.
I have no idea why but I feel like nancy Pelosi was some how involved in this
Fake news, and the failure of people to handle fake news, is f-ing up the world. People cry "fake news" without basis, and when there is actual "fake news" there is no consequence for lying out of your backside.
Lesson learned. Don't sell automobile to Consumer Report's employees.
Don't sell good products to America
Or any kinds of product to them
This shows why a lot of companies just don't bother themselves with the US.
Self inflicted wound; many Americans blindly boast of stupid things.
Same nonsense happend when Tesla (an American company) came round.
Everyone started hating it. Tesla is/was(?) more American than many American automobile companies.
Lies, deception, manipulation, ... all propelled by idiots blindly voting by emotion.
@@commenterperson4481 I agree. I watch people time and time again buy another American car and complain because of all the things going wrong with them in less than 5 years. I swear most American manufacturers just bank on people buying their cars just because they're domestic and don't bother to actually make a quality product that can directly compete with imports. While at the same time we have laws in place that make it more difficult for outside manufacturers to sell their cars in the states.
@@jameswilson8907 i agree
Exactly, look at what they did to Isuzu.
@@SonofthePhantom wait, what happened to isuzu?!
I remember when the Samurai fiasco was going on in the 80's. One more reason not to trust major media. Thanks.
Not a fiasco. Consumer Reports did their testing and Suzuki lost their lawsuits against CR.
After seeing this I was kind surprised” Consumer Report, you too? “
@@rsmith02 then why did consumer reports pay out suzuki and print a retraction?
A friend of mine had one he drove it like a rally car never seemed like it was going to tip over. it was unstoppable in the snow
We have raid de himalaya..which is a pretty gnarly rally course..which is till date dominated by the gypsies..that's what it's called here..and the indian army uses them too.
I have mine going 4 years now never had a roll ..... the dam thing is awesome , Americans are just f@$led up like that . Going to buy the new Jimmy next
@@kahlilchin9890 we rolled it when we ramped it to high. It just rolled over onto the top, and was still running for a while. Just got out and tipped it back over lol. Luckily we've got a good roll cage. Got our samari for 800
@@adamr6498 I drive mine stock, runs like a charm.
Don't try fast with a jeep wrangler it feels like driving a bar of soap in the rain
I feel sad for the US citizens who can't experience this masterpiece...F
I was watching the 2019 New York Auto Show video from Regular Car Reviews yesterday and saw that Suzuki taunted us Anglo North Americans with a Jimny we can likely never have. :(
American here, living in Japan. Just bought a Jimny 3rd Gen :)
We have them, only '95 is the last model. My neighbor actually drives one.
American here, living in the Philippines. Just trying to decide if I really want one due to the fact that they cost very similarly to a hilux and you soo much with a hilux.
Shoot my dad owned 2 samurais and his friend owned like 4 of them.
Wow that's so messed up. I remember watching the news and telling my aunt to sell it because it was unsafe. I'll never trust consumer reports ever again
More like, you should just trust your instincts and do your own research, rather than relying on magazine reviews.
@@MeNoWorryYouNoWorry I get what you are saying but it's hard to do your own research when a lot of sources that used to be regarded as reliable turn out to be less than honest. Not everyone has the resources to to test drive multiple cars and run them through rigorous testing. That is the problem, I think that companies like this need to be regulated to a high standard and VERY PUBLICLY nailed to the wall with huge fines when they do shady stuff like on this case.
Consumer Reports should have to pay your aunt and everyone else whose Samuri lost value because of their false report.
@@MeNoWorryYouNoWorry well people nowadays do their own research but the "I fucking love science" and "trust the science" group of fat balding soy hate that so now we're in deep shit
I wouldn't recommend judging an entire company based on a single incident from decades ago that was only about a specific type of product. Overall, what they do is very good and helpful to us consumers. Gathering and processing consumer feedback at the national level in order to help people make informed purchasing decisions and to hold companies accountable for their claims, as well as encourage meaningful improvements, is unquestionably a service that is beneficial to everyone. However, considering what they did to the adorable Samurai, I think it's safe to take their reports with a grain of salt and simply compare their results with at least 1 or 2 other sources instead of relying on their word alone.
"Justification seldom circulates as rapidly and as widely as slander" -Alexander Hamilton
What’s your name man?
@Lord Mahaveer Maldonado
So true
@@jg5001 Dork
@@enclavevideo I cant blame my wife for forcing me to watch it with her tho.
I’m in Toronto, this lady who goes to my local Church drives a Mint X90 in manual. She said it was her first ever car she bought back in the 90’s and would never trade it. She gets constantly approached by people and been pulled over by people in G-Wagons with Offers and she’s turned down all of them.
Seeing a car like that being daily driven here in Canada is literally like finding a Unicorn. With all that harsh winters and Salt
(Wagen)
G wagons are stupid cars, stupid.
고등 지능 ODINS trash oh dear looks like we got an upset Landy fanboy here
@@dietznutz1 they are stupid, extremely overpriced
Timesplitter at what point did I say new ones
In the UK, the Samurai(or Jimny as it’s called here) is seen as an incredibly competent off roader and was incredibly popular. Such a shame that a random guy with a grudge managed to kill it off in the states.
In Siberia also
still loving that “from dad” letter in the intro
What do you think it means?
1 sub before 2021? I just subscribed
I boycotted consumer reports after learning about this years ago. Owned an XL-7 and always wished we could still buy the jimmy/samurai in the US
get one here in Puerto Rico and ship it to the mainland US.
Now we will sell more samurai in USA 😊
When I started watching this video... My 1st thought was... damnnn that's Maruti-Suzuki Gypsy...
We Indians admire & love that car... Infact the Indian Military used to use this car...
It's rare to find 1 now in India though...
I always thought those little 4x4 were kind of cool but when the report came out that they were unsafe no one would be caught dead in them. The thing is, you could still see them on the street occasionally and I would wonder why someone would drive a death trap. It seems they knew something I didn't.
Good to know some people have faith in their own common sence.
10:07 "In fact, the Samurai outsold the Wrangler 2 to 1 in 1987"
That's what killed the Samurai. Jeep was not going to let that happen. Roxor, anyone?
The Roxor is not a road legal vehicle, but merely a side by side.
Daimler-Chrysler was "forced" to do a costly redesign the Jeep (widen the track) because of the same crap. Their fender flares are part of the result. I'm sure they had butt-hurt, and were no doubt in support of the anti-Sami propaganda.
@@jmackinjersey1 It's my understanding, that with the proper equipment added, there are states that will issue a road title and plates.
@@norsefalconer , Who is going to add all of the safety equipment, like air bags, crumple zones, ABS/Stability Control etc? It is more than simply adding brake lights and turn signals. These are 4 wheeled vehicles, not 3 wheeled vehicles which fall under the Motorcycle classification and do not need those items.
I know that California makes you Register All vehicles, be they off road only, like dirt bikes and side by sides. But those are not registered for street use, that is a money grab.
@@norsefalconer What? When was this "force" and by whom? Otherwise I call Farce. I know that the Wrangler was widened by Jeep for other reasons, and the fender flares were on there far longer than the wider axles to keep mud, rocks and other debris from hitting not only the other vehicles on the road, but also the driver and passengers. Ask me how I know. Even with the fender flares on, when you have your window rolled down or the doors off, you'll still get a face full of crap when you turn the steering wheel and have the ground speed fast enough.
D-list:
10 Best sounding engines
10 best muscle cars
10 best sports cars
10 movies for car people
Top 10 cars for movie people😳
Top 10 Bond movie cars.
The last one needs to be done
Movies for car ppl! Always tryina find new ones
Are you guys 10?
Whenever I would pass by a Suzuki dealership in Japan I would stop and admire the Jimny. That thing rocks.
I bought a brand new 1988 Samurai when they came out and loved it! A brand new car for $6995! Then about 6 months later the BS reports came out. Complete BS but year it killed the brand. I continued to drive mine for 10+ years putting 130,000 miles on it before selling it for $500. I still miss that little thing. Loved it!
damn that was a bargain
The Record was made in Chile “ojos del salado” is an amazing volcano. My first car ever was a Samurai II, as It was labeled here the 98’ model, then 99 we got the 3rd gen Jimny wich sold largely over our country, people love it because it’s tough and an excellent 4x4 especially for Chile that has a lot of high mountains , deserts and rough terrains, incredible vehicle all the way!!💪🏽💪🏽
The record is hold by a Unimog
Era el sanurai( o carcaza modifiada entera) ahora es unimog
Wena loco
US: Ban
Japan: Selling it like hot cakes worldwide
Is this logical?
since the launch of the latest jimny, there has been a wait time of 2-5 years in UK, japan, New Zealand and South africa, those people love small 4X4 cars.
Perfectly logical when you factor in American logic (or lack thereof).
@@192lalo Yes but no, its not the government's job to protect international companies from competition from the market. Case in point the fact that after the lawsuit the government did not investigate nor punished Consumer Reports
It's business...
Alexis Rivera but that’s what they did for Harley-Davidson in the 1980s.
Fun Fact:
The 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon got 1 Star at ANCAP and EURONCAP while the Jimny got 3 stars. And then the wrangler rolled over in the two crash test made by the IIHS. But CR says no word about it. And curiously CR did all this just a year later the Samurai outsell the wrangler 2 to 1... what a curious thing?
sounds like jeep/american manufacturers lobbyism
That's what they can do to car manufacturers. Imagine what they could do to green energy companies when they get to become big enough to outsell fossil fuels. Capitalism at it's finest.
@@s_ame1135 not capitalism, it's corporatism
Sounds like big corporate favoritism.
Amazing! This is so true !
“It’s all about surface level references for us, here in the US”
James, you nailed it.
I like content that catches these companies in lies. Love to see a series on this.
*cough* like the NRA *cough*
Consumer Reports still does the same kind of thing. If every car was "good" people wouldn't buy their magazine. Fiat is the latest automotive casualty due to lack of Consumer Reports favor. They literally counted buyer's difficulty with pairing Bluetooth on the 500L as a "reliability" issue. They failed to recognize the one-year issues of transmission problems of the 500L (which mysteriously only affected US models with the exact same transmission as European models which seemed unaffected), did not continue into the second year of production and continued to lambast the later year models for perceived reliability issues that had been resolved after the first year.
Many of their judgments are purely "opinion" but they pass them off as fact. For example, on the Fiat 500 summary, it says "this two-door suffers from a choppy ride and a noisy cabin, which detract from the fun." .... Ask any 500 owner, and the RIDE that CR is complaining about is the #1 SOURCE of its fun. It actually communicates road feel to you in a way most modern cars do not, which make it very engaging to drive. Yet Consumer Reports seems to think driving a sofa is more fun - therefore they downrate any vehicle that's not cushy in the way they like.
Even their "death rates per million registered vehicles" is incredibly damaging to the industry. It shows larger vehicles as "safer", yet does not account for who the drivers of these vehicles are. Smaller vehicles like a Ford Fiesta or Chevy Sonic tend to be driven by younger less affluent buyers, who as a whole, are at MUCH higher risk of being involved in accidents. Compared to things like Chevrolet Suburbans, which are driven by people who tend to have many more years of experience driving and are less likely to be "hooning" around. When you look at actual crash safety data, Consumer Reports' claim that giant SUVs are nearly twice as safe dissolved into the lies they are.
@@AlvinBrinson theve been after FCA as a whole for a while. Completely killed the Dart when it was actually a good car.
@@AlvinBrinson How do they escape when any company decides to sue them?
@@varunvarma8183 Cash money. A shame, really.
I also wanted to say I love how they did ‘back to the show’ same way as initial d
I want that to be in every episode of UpToSpeed
@@Khiladi_99 me too
It actually took me off guard and I had to rewind haha, I wouldn’t mind it in more videos either!
@@Khiladi_99 me too
Gypsy still loved in India even after being discontinued from march 2019...
Sahi baat bhai
In Pakistan suzuki potohar (gypsy) discontinued in 2000 after that we have 3rd gen and now we have new 4th gen JDM model jimny in Pakistan.....
Trueeeeeee🔥🔥
India have home grown brand that still makes original Jeeps licensed, we have wranglers too coz jeep is officially available in india , we have home grown wrangler competition too . Soon, SUZUKI will start the biggest production facility for the gimny thats in india. Suzuki is planning a lwb version specifically for india and then might export it to other countries as well. So , soon Pakistan might start getting cheaper gimnies coz of the production facility in india.
Bhai har bollywood movie ma police ka pas hota ha 2nd gen jimny
I've been some really out of the way places in a samurai. Very capable vehicle, with decent tires, it went where you pointed it, the highest compliment I can give an off road vehicle.
I used to have a Suzuki SX4 loved the lil thing wish Suzi was still selling cars in the U.S.
Even the US had an SX4?!
I’m still rocking the ‘07 SX4 in NYC!
@@NaamanStory dayum anyway suzuki launched the ciaz as a successor it's a hella improvement
You forgot to mention that it’s also available in Europe. So pretty much everywhere else, except the US :)
They banned it.
@@professorofficer9609 no: 3rd gen it's still in Suzuki's catalogue.
Second gen models has been called Santana in Italy until the 90s and then Samurai
Ai dreptate, d-asta nu prea isi bat capu companii mari cu americanii
@@professorofficer9609 Not banned really, it has to with manufacturer CO2 limits.
Hughh those new Jimnys are looking so good. I live in Canada and most of the Suzuki off-roaders legacy is slowly falling into rust, or pieces or both at the same time. Good condition Suzuki 4x4s are now a rarity
I had a samurai. It was easy to service (for the basic stuff I did, anyway), since the engine compartment was so spacious. It was also quite competent off-road in the Arizona deserts. Of course, it also had bus-like steering, suspension, and acceleration (also mine had no a/c which was brutal in Phoenix). On the whole, it was a fun little vehicle.
I had a 2000 Suzuki Vitara 2.1L 4x4 manual transmission and I was amazed at it's ability to go through pretty much anything (mud/snow). I never ever got it stuck and it went through some hairy stuff. It was my daily driver so I didn't try to bury it in a mud hole. Im going to miss getting out during big snow storms and cruising through the country having a blast damn I wish I didn't have to get rid of it lol. Some of my favorite memories in that thing was during heavy snow when no one dared get out (except other 4x4s) and I'd be driving around as if everything was fine.
You didn’t mention that the Samurai became instantly uninsurable in the U.S. after the Consumer Reports hit job.
i have a 1988 i just put tags on it today and its insured?
@@davidervin4853 that was then.
No it wasn’t I have an had many. They wouldn’t be continued to import after the model.
Sorry bro, I bought a 1992 Samuri, had it insured and kept driving it for 17years! Damn I miss that car.
I know someone in CA that has a Samurai and it's perfectly street legal. Where did you read that?
There's loads of Jimnys on the road here in Australia. Bonza little cars mate.
My buddy had an 86 samurai with a 3 inch lift and some other work done to it, and that little thing would go anywhere. As far as rolling it over- you had to actually try to get it to flip, and we did. If you had 4 guys with you you could also stand it back up and keep ok driving 😁
Luckyyyy
I want one 😫
Yeah, I see them in Britain occasionally
Yeah i always see them now in aussie they are cute little 4wds
The Suzuki jimny has officially became one of my favourite cars
I love my 87 samurai. I had it since i was 16. Ran when parked but not the case. Engine was seized. Put a 1.6 8v in it from a geo tracker. *ITS A BEAST* Go anywhere any time i have the old school buckshot bias oly tires on it. Never been stuck since i had these tires on it.
I’ve always been pissed I can’t buy a Jimny, now I know who to be pissed at.
This is why I love living in a third world country, no one can say a car is unsafe since our public transport is unsafe lmao
I just got an ‘86 Jimny! It’s lovely. I’m in Washington state and insurance is exactly the same as it was for my 79 733i. I.e. not much.
They have “Jeep eater” kits for the Samurai that make them absolute units
Fun story: the first jeep was based on a compact truck built by a company called American Bantam. It was optioned by the US Army Quartermaster Corps for modification as a light transport carrier, and then they sent the plans to over a hundred car companies. Ford and Willys overland were the only ones that built one to compete for the contract. Henry Ford was basically trying to steal the truck and take over production for the war effort, and Ford was actually the company that invented the stamped slotted grill that became symbolic of jeeps. Willys was the third or fourth company to build a jeep, even checker, the cab company, put together three crate jeeps from bantam when bantam contracted with them to expand production capacity. Bantam was relegated to building jeep trailers after the army gave away their plans, willys overland died off when they were bought out by Kaiser after a decade of legal battle with bantam about the patents for the jeep, kaiser jeep died when chrysler bought them, and now it's all Fiat. Jeep is a lie.
I’m tired of seeing so many goddamn keeps so I’d like to see a Suzuki destroy a Jeep
고등 지능 ODINS trash UA-cam it lol
I knew a guy who was a mechanic that had one he turned into an absolute offroad beast. He fitted a V8 into it somehow. It was crazy
@@DaveCM I fit a v8 (92 mustang 5.0L) into a 94 miata. THAT was crazy.
the record was taken by two UNIMOGS earlier this year btw, and we have lot of samurai down here in Chile, oh and we've got the new jimny too
Somos el mejor país de Chile 😂😂😂
This guy wheels
La cago... F por el samuca que hizo el récord... Viva Chile... Y vivan los samurais
German and Japanese Engineering, wait thats not new stuff.
Sometimes things never changes.
I only speak from the technical side.
Acá en Argentina tenemos el Jimny también. Al doble de precio, pero lo tenemos jaja
Had a Suzuki Sidekick 4door, 4wd, lifted and big tires and have fond memories of sliding that puppy sideways around the turns on fire roads while covering/escaping forest fires as a photojournalist.
One of the most nimble and reliable underpowered fun trucks I ever had.
350K miles.
Didn't they do this same shit in the 90s to the Isuzu Rodeo? idk if that roll-testing was legit or not but it's possible they sabotaged that as well.
I would love to see an up to speed on the isuzu rodeo and trooper
The outriggers they fitted to it are what made it unstable.
@@BAYBOSSMAN the isuzu trooper with was a very good offroad vehicle for it's price. Having a 4 link rear and a good torque on demand system. I am on my second trooper and it makes it most places jeeps can't. It has a more dramatic story of it's fate then the samurai
Surely, that what happens.
Weren't the old Nissan Pathfinder, Honda Passport, and Isuzu Rodeo the same vehicle?
This is my favorite car. Its like a mini bronco and i hate the fact they dont sell them here anymore
I wonder which automotive company could have benefited from this amazing competitor being off the market🤔
Ahmed Is King 🗣 Jeeeeeeeeeeeppppppp
Either Jeep or GM for sure
Ahhh the greatness of capitalism
The samurai is a jeep killer.
Luke's workout exactly. They were selling twice as much when they came out
My stepdad had one of those when I was a teenager. That thing was a BEAST! It’s what I used to learn how to drive a standard. I watched it pull a full sized Chevy van and 16ft. trailer out of the mud. Freaking awesome!
In india it was called the” king gypsy “
Mostly sold as fleet vehicle
The most iconic indian police car ❤️
It was even sold to the army ❤️
They shouldn’t have made the samurai out of business luckily i live in India
Oh yeah
my cousin has it, it's all beaten up and still runs like hell but takes too much gas.
Prashant Kerung toooo much gas, true that
@@tormentor6737 SJ30/SJ40 or second gen jimny from 1981. From the video American version looks smaller because a standard gypsy king has rear passenger capacity of of four.
In Wikipedia The Indian built SJ-410 has only ever been available in a long-wheelbase version. The Gypsy remains in production for the Indian Subcontinent market. The version still produced in India by Maruti Suzuki is the Maruti Gypsy King, using the sixteen valve, 80 hp (60 kW) 1.3 liter G13 engine. The Gypsy King has proved popular with the Indian armed forces and police units.
My daily is a gypsy too. Terrible to drive. Bad economy. But still so much fun. Can't wait for the (new) jimny to reach india
They pulled the same scrap with the Corvair with "unsafe at any speed"
Exactly the vw had the same rear end design
Even by 65 the covair had a fixed the problem vw still had the same rear end
That book led to lots of safety features we take fro granted.
That was Ralph Nader's crusade and they never recovered from it!!
@@ronalddaub7965 the new VW's have a double jointed rear suspension marginally better than a beetles.
like at 10mph it can be unsafe
lol, what did they do?
hit it with a train? so BS
Imagine being so stuck up about your “unbeatable” 4x4 jeep that you put a sign up pretty much begging someone with a more capable offroader to beat the record... and having the sign being brought down by a dude with a smaller engine and smaller car that had design cues taken from the exact same company. Im a MOPAR guy at heart, but i do enjoy cheering for the underdog
Lol underdog? They set that record with a stock Jeep and it was beat by a highly modified Samuri that was running a supercharged 4 cylinder under the hood. The Jeep was the underdog
somethingtough they still broke the record. And they are still an underdog cuz suzuki isnt all that popular in the name of cars here in the states. I can count the amount of times ive seen a suzuki car on one hand. And im pretty sure that theres been modified jeeps that have driven up the pass, theres no way there hasnt been
Back in 1989 Jeep was still an AMC company. Mopar purchased them in 1990. IMHO one of the biggest POS 4x4's was the Bronco II.
@@somethingtough Are you on drugs? The "stock Jeep" you are talking about was a brand new, top of the range Rubicon Unlimited "factory prepared" for offroad in oxygen-deprived high altitude environments; it also had winches and special tyres. The team running the Jeeps (there were 2 of them) had many support vehicles and a full team of Jeep mechanics with them. The drivers were part of a professional offroad racing team from Germany.
Did I mention the whole stint was sponsored, planned and conceived by Jeep?
The suzuki was a 1986 model with a supercharger off a Mercedes C class Kompressor (DIY fitted, there is no kit for such a conversion), lifted suspension and some tyres, prepared and driven by 2 amateur mechanics and offroad drivers, with no support vehicles, no external sponsorships and financing.
So who is the underdog here?
@@thudtheace I never had a Bronco II, but remember when they came out. Even then I did not like them. They seemed to be a cheap plastic copy of the original (1965-1977), the vehicle nich they were meant to recapture. IMO, the biggest problem is Ford left out what made the original desirable. In hindsight the B2 should have been designed with a removable top and an interior that you would not fear getting rained on. That might have made the desirable even today. As is now, unlike 40 year old CJs, no one cares about saving them or rebuilding them.
I had a '96 Suzuki Sierra (Australian version of the Samurai) with a soft-top and the the coil spring suspension they later put under the Jimny. That thing was the most fun car I've ever owned. I recently bought a 1980s 'long-wheelbase' Sierra to make into a unique weapon.
Loved this thing. But I whenever I drove through a windy pass near me, I did worry as the little guy would flip. Never did though.
I was worried when I couldn't keep up with the flow of traffic... with passengers with me even worse!
S M I was worried whenever a a large semi passed me. It was so light that as it passed the samurai swayed. Scary, but I must stress nothing ever happened. It was a great vehicle for long road trips because it was amazing with gas. I took it Baja on the weekends. Perfect for that
I love the 80s and early 90s design of the samurai.
16:24 - The Suzuki Jimny is legal on NZ roads, has and still is allowed on the road. They are everywhere!
Maybe he was only referring to the first model launched here, otherwise if they weren't road legal, you wouldn't see so many on trademe eh?
@@NDFilmNZ Pretty sure every model was road legal in NZ. *shrug
Just from a quick look at the internet the Farmworker 4x4 was a rebadged Maruti Gipsy which couldn't be registered cause it failed crash safety standards.
@@nathansstuff1547 Yeah I think I see the article you are looking at, same one they took the image from for the video. Hes talking about British laws though not New Zealand. i've seen some of the early Suzuki for sale in NZ, but very rusty. There is still some very rough examples in Southland, one used daily between Queenstown and fiver rivers.
not the Farm Worker, those were sold quite recently in 2013 and were simply imported Maruti Gypsys
My mother (70+) bought the new jimny as soon as it was available, she love the car. She was driving the samurai for over 20 years and thought it was time for a new one. Just at the moment the new jimny was announced.
2 Samurai (or other tiny off roader) would make a real nice season of Hi-Low
YESSSS
One gets ls-swapped the other gets a rotary
@@bettyspaghetti678 a rotary would be horrendous off-road. Pretty much no low end torque
I like this idea a lot
Adam Thompson i stan
It's been my experience that it was only unstable after it was lifted 10 inches and mud boggers were put on it
ive gotten oversteer and understeer in my sidekick. only 2 inches and tires to fit tho, nothing too crazy. i wont report back after i get it on a trail because 1 im not gonna freakin roll the thing, and 2 ill definitely forget this video and this comment exist
@@jackradzelovage6961 it was fun when it happened, lol. We flipped it back over and continued trail riding. I love those little things I want to get one!
hah the boggers will make it more stable they weight more than the truck and are essentially on the ground.
Someone: "JD Power is rigged, that's why Consumer Reports is better, they never lie".
CR: (Sweats nervously).
same thing is going to haooen to huawei tick tok and many others overseas company
@@blackpinkoffical yeah... Huawei isn't owned by the "former" head of China's intelligence agency or anything...
@@blackpinkoffical I can't tell if your comment is in favor of or against those companies or if overseas is including CR. No comment on their reputation, but they are based out of New York.
The Jimny and other offroaders like Pajero are underrated
I’ve got a 87 tin top samurai, love that car. It’s a beast. 🤘🏼
Maruthi Suzuki Gypsi is being used by Indian Army
James make a D-list of the most tuned cars in history
Honda civic, supra, evo, integra, rx-7, datsun, and miata. Their, did it!
@@sebastianherpst449 350z
Or just watch the first fast and the furious.
My bad
Miata, Subaru’s, Evos, gtrs, civics, Z, s chassis, Supra, rx7
I'm so happy that this story finally gets some spotlight!
Suzuki Jimny: what if the Wrangler was more Reliable and Budget Friendly?
And wholly less capable. At least the new ones. The old ones are pretty damn capable.
@@AustinH7 Why are the new ones less capable?
@@r2in360 that was posted by a jeep owner, guaranteed!
@@AustinH7 if you are talking "stock, unmodified"... I'll take the Jimny!
It would be more likely a Thar now. Instead of current gen Jimny
Well, now I actually want a samurai. Thank you donut media for adding to my dream car list.
Allow me to potentially add to your need for this car. People routinely stuff RX7 rotary motors onto this little beast... watch this one from Puerto Rico. (An US territory.) ua-cam.com/video/Gp-rGXcOmFI/v-deo.html (Just be careful with the volume, its VERY LOUD even idling!)
I had an ‘88 model (before the interior refresh) when I was in college. It was a BEAST! I wish I never sold it.
James cobra pumphery is a name everyone wanted as a child
Suzuki: “No ideas are stupid, tell us!”
“-what if we added a fourth wheel?”
Wow, just repeat what they say and idiots will give a thumbs up, where have I seen that before?
greggy weggy that was the joke dummy
Wow, just repeat what they say and idiots will give a thumbs up, where have I seen that before?
Wow, just repeat what they say and idiots will give a thumbs up, where have I seen that before?
@@metricstormtrooper Reddit
The Initial D reference in this is IMMACULATE.
Love this channel!
Day 200 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
First
First comment!
I’m early on your day 200 .congrats on your day 200
Damn son you made it to 200 days
Hey man how's it going
My first car was a 1988 Samurai! It was rusted out and fuses blew every week. But damn, I loved it!
Everyday you walk out and try starting it and it doesnt... then you go out into your garage and get a fuse out of a bucket full of fuses
Americans: this 4×4 is unsafe because it rolled over once.
Also Americans: have vehicles driving around with 1200hp and 28 inch wheels.
Americans are all about liability and litigation. Cars that are sold must be "safe" or else the manufacturer will get sued and banned. But people can do whatever they want as now that's their own fault. It's not about keeping people safe, it's about avoiding blame and lawsuits.
@Coni Glione I think it was more a matter of the Consumer Reports people having a grudge against it, then getting stuck in a mindset of confirmation bias and wishing to make their own reality than find the actual truth. They set out to show that it was dangerous, and that's what they did, regardless of the truth. While the US auto industry has famously done a lot of crappy things to keep out foreign competitors, I don't get the sense, at least based on this video, that Jeep had any role in it this time. But if thinking of Jeep and other similar vehicles, if Consumer Reports were being fair they should have done the same over-the-top tests, performed exactly the same, with other vehicles and see if they too tipped when pushed that far.
1200 horsepower? What the fuck, are people driving around in P-51 Mustangs now?
1200 horsepower? What the fuck, are people driving around in P-51 Mustangs now?
@@quillmaurer6563 I rally doubt that the Jimny rolls over easily than American sold landyachts like the Tahoe and such.
This was the first car roll over I was involved in as a passenger. Mind you, my 'mate' was driving it like a skateboard completing an insane turn off a 45deg embankment. With me hanging in my seatbelt laying in glass, he didn't say are you ok, he said, well...... looks like I'm getting that Ford.....
2020 and a similar car- Maruti Suzuki Gypsy is still in active service for the Indian Army.
It's dead agile, light weight, easy to work on with low maintenance, has climbed the mountains of Himalayas, to cold deserts in Leh and total burning desert of Rajasthan. It has actually been very reliable too.
Sadly we never received the SWB versions.
This has to be one of my favorite episodes yet, I can’t wait to show everyone this video. So sick and tired of people telling me how samurais roll over, I’ve even tried to Roll mine and it’s really difficult🤣
Yeah, the worst thing is that other people get other vehicles confused with Jimny’s, I have a Subaru brumby, and 11 people have told me how unsafe it is and how easy to tip it is, yet I literally drove it on the side of a hill and floored it while turning and it just sucked itself down and wouldn’t even budge. I tried to roll it on the most tractioned ground I could and it just ripped up a huge track
Anyone saying a [insert vehicle with s in the name] is unsafe are really stuck in the wrong era of cars
KLO 167 Fun little things! Sand, snow, mud, asphalt. It doesn’t matter ,pitch em’ sideways and have fun!😂
I know man it's just not true
I had a soft top, it was the coolest thing, I’d beat that thing into the ground, now I want to make a pretty one, but I want a tin top👌
A kid from my middle school died when it rolled over and landed on him. Soooooo.......you're wrong.
Honestly was expecting 40 hp, it had me rolling when you said 25 hp 🤣
Fr 😂😂😂
Again a big thank you, My Vehicle Ownership class loved this one today and we launched into a great chat about mini 4X4's and other rides of notable reputation but my goodness the CJ was small back then eh?
I appreciate that james continue some of the story of the jimny despite it being discontinued in the us
I’m stuck now in Phillippines during pandemic so I used time to my advantage by buying Jimney and falling in love with it. Thanks for honest truth donut
Have fun with that thing man
philippines is all about japanese cars. only polticians and rich dudes buy german and american brands. what island are you stuck in? the roads are quite clear now because much of public transport is down because of this pandemic.. no jeepneys at the moment..
@@pihermoso11 no jeepneys, only Jimnys. See what I did there? No? Haha, I need friends.
@@pihermoso11 What? Ford extremely famous here.
Damn. This is the first time I've felt emotional about a car video.
Sensational.
Here in India, the Suzuki Samurai or "Gypsy"has a cult following! We got almost all the variants and had production till 2014. Sadly due to the new emission norms the production has been stopped. That free revving gasoline engine and short wheelbase made an off-road beast! Epic car. Our Miltary still uses it. Its been produced exclusively for them as the Miltary doesn't give a fuck about emission norms lmao😏
Americans: "japan doesn't give us cool cars"
Also Americans: "this incredible off roader is uNsAfE"
can everyone pls upvote this comment? its just perfect
Elías Indriago it’s wrong tho
@@diegoeliasindriago7991 I love the jealousy of people towards America. We get bigger cars than the rest of the world. Small cars had their niche then, but not now. We like demolishing small houses for big ones.
What Americans are saying Japan doesn't give us cool cars? JDM cars have their own cult
Jake Dougherty exactly I’ve never heard anyone say “japan doesn’t give us cool cars” ever in my life....
Bro your comedy is killer!!! “Hello I need to upgrade my life insurance” hilarious
How the media kills amazing cars like this one and probably countless more 😔😤
kill competition to boost sale of their shitty US made cars
This happened to the corvair. They corrected the problem
they have moved up to killing people. Or at the very least driving people to go out and commit crime.
I own a 1.9 turbo diesel 1998 suzuki samurai and I was astonished by its off-road capability
Amazing little car
Sounds like a rattly rattle dream off roader
Feel lucky enough when i got "the last samurai" in my garage
hah I have the first samurai an 86 model
How much horsepower does Tom Cruise have? MpG?
Hi
I got an 87
I feel lucky I just got a 2020 Jimny a few days ago.
Nobody;
James: I adopted a kangaroo and I’ve got receipts.
😅exactly
17:16 in indonesia the demand is so high for these cars the fastest time if you order now is 4 years 🤣
And the 'used' price are higher than sticker price tho 😂
Isn't there a dealer that has a 10 year wait list?
Yeah... So I just bought old version than wait for 4 years
Better buy a 2004 katana than swap the axle am i rite
@@anggahartoto I've heard of it, some people gettin nuts bout the 'nostalgic/retro' hype 😂
I had a 1987 Suzuki Samurai it was such a cool vehicle. Drove it across the desert in Nevada, I mean on dirt roads from Jean, NV to Pahrump, NV. Dirt roads the whole with 4 people in the car. It never left me stranded, easy to push start, easy to work on and never got stuck. Only traded it in after a Suzuki dealership messed with the carb and never ran right after that. It was awesome when the boys from Roadkill put a Mopar V8 in one and hauled ass in it.