It’ll get better…use your adaptive cruise as often as possible. I never tuned mine- and I bought it new…(2019 TRD Off Road, Double Cab) after 250k trouble free miles I’m definitely used to it. We own a lot of vehicles…full sized trucks/SUVs (Yukon XL Denali, Chevy 1/2 ton and mid sized SUVs also). We own a horse farm and this truck goes almost anywhere our (Kawasaki) Mule 6 seater goes. I actually am pleased with the storage - the under back seats is terrific- I use compression bags and keep a lot of gear in them. I have ordered a Diamondback Switchback cover…I’ll put it on the new (23) Pro when it comes in. As for the interior- I am thrilled how it’s held up after 250k miles. The truck is not for backseat passengers…that’s why I wouldn’t recommend it for a family vehicle. I love how the back seats fold down- perfect for dogs. I usually sell our full sized vehicles (all GMC) around 60-70k miles as experience has taught me the 125-150k mile mark brings issues. We’ve had a few sedans too and off the lot BMW is our favorite…but, The BMWs (7 series) usually have issues much earlier. Bottom line for me is the Tacoma- while by far the least expensive of the vehicles we buy it is by far the best value. I tell folks it’s like horses…don’t buy a walker/trotter and expect it to compete with the roping horse when roping, know what you need. The Tacoma is a master of very little but does most things well and it is dependable and that to me is a winner.
I've had so many trucks in the past 30+ years of driving (Ram 1500, F150, S10, Ranger . . but my TRD is a true work horse, hauling and towing anything and everything. I will hate the day I will HAVE to sell it.
Great video explaining everything ! I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD off-road & I couldn’t find the right description of what I didn’t like about the transmission issues I’ve been having. I’m at 31k miles & problem hasn’t gone away. Truck consistently is looking for the right gear. Please recommend tunes to fix this issue, thanks. Again great video !
You hit the nail on the head as far as reliability goes, I have a 2010 trd sport with 73,000 miles ,.. got the new frame two years ago … still drives like the day I drove it off the show room floor in December of 2009
Get the Overland Tailor Torque tune. I did and its like I have a different truck. Gear hunting and throttle lag both gone. I have a 23 trd off road and those issues drive me insane. I got the OTT mild to medium tune and couldn't be happier.
Wondering how much these points were improved in the '24 model. The hybrid version probably improves the throttle lag, and has great gas mileage, but... You pay for it upfront as this is probably the most expensive trim. Also, with all the new complications like turbo and hybrid technology, I am not sure this would have the same famous reliability Toyota trucks always had
The gen 3 is already a dumpster fire as far as reliability is concerned so it cant get much worse. I ignored all the reliability issues on tacoma world and it's abysmal CR survey results because all my Toyota's were incredibly reliable. My '19 had more issues in the 3 years I owned it than every other vehicle I've ever owned combined.
My 23 OR I never have the gear hunting what so ever , I know people will give me shit about a Throttle controller made by Windbooster around $150 it stopped the throttle lag the truck works like it should and I can put it back to stock in a second , and I know its not a tune but it wakes it up and it works.
I don’t care for the steering wheel issue either. Other than that I love driving my ‘23 TRD OFF ROAD 4X4. Personally I would never get the Colorado or Ranger, coming from a life long Chevrolet Owner, they start breaking down after several years. Subbed....
Thanks dude for this content, very helpful for those people who don't have any idea about truck, particularly toyota tacoma knowing that they are the best selling mid size in the market.
I have the same exact configuration as yours. I find the same exact things are annoying, especially the steering wheel/seating arrangement. If they had this same configuration with manual transmission, I would've gotten that, but unfortunately they don't have it with long bed.
the one thing I have to say is where you blindfolded when you bought that truck you didn't see these things or when you drove it you didn't notice any of these things why did you buy this truck. I'm not saying that they're not legitimate complaints but the things you are saying I think you should have noticed through driving.
I get that I own a 2004 Tacoma but that still doesn't explain your your complaints the steering wheel I'm sure you sat in it the back seat legroom you should have seen the poor quality of the interior I would think you would have seen get a water bottle and if you drove it you should have noticed the shifting problemsnot only that it's been all over the Internet about the shifting
@@TRDTalk yes it is holding up well a little over 200,000 miles.and I must say that is one fine-looking truck you have there I would rather own it then the 24 with the 2.7 l motor. I don't believe that small motor with turbocharged it's going to have the reliability or the longevity of your 23.
Tough to say. I’ll never buy the first year of a new model but I’m definitely not ruling out a swap for the 4th gen a few years into the model. With that said, primary reason I pulled the trigger on the third gen before they stop production was for the V6. 4th gen looks promising though.
Should You Buy a Toyota Tacoma Now? Or Wait for The New One? The Car Care Nut UA-cam Channel ua-cam.com/video/eqJe5OCdjZc/v-deo.html Mar 4, 2023 Video Description: So Should you consider buying a Toyota Tacoma Now? Or wait until the next generation is released? In this video we discuss what makes the current Toyota Tacoma Good in the 3th generation which is practically unchanged from 2016-2023. We also discuss what's special about the Tacoma, What are some things that are good with it and some things that are not good. Then lastly we discuss if you should wait for the new one rumored to be released for 2024.
I had more fun with my Nissan Frontier then my new Tacoma. cheaper, faster and looked better The only thing that I like about the Tacoma is it has the outlet in the bed and it’s got more modifications that’s really the only thing The frontier is just as reliable as the Tacoma. everybody can say all they want about how it’s not but they’ve never driven one and they never owned one, everybody that has owed a frontier knows but they’re really reliable the Tacoma it’s just overhyped for no reason.
i didnt like my 2022 tacoma sr5 either, owned it for 5 months before selling it. I dreamed about having a tacoma for 14 years lol, i wanted to buy new and couldnt get a good deal until 2022 (of all times lol) but after 5 months im like "really, thats it? this is a tacoma?" i had a 1991 toyota pickup that i sold 5 years ago, i still miss that lil truck all the time. Id rather have a pickup.
He said he didn't put stupid things in the video like gas mileage, but he did put important things in like his favorite sippy cup wouldn't fit in the cup holder.
I went from having a older model Tacoma to a 2023. I did not notice any of that. It was a breath of fresh air to be in a brand new truck again. My old Tacoma had over 300k on it (still have it) and that’s why it cost so much. My old Tacoma out lived so many of my friends vehicles and way more dependable then any of their trucks. Keep it basic, less things to go wrong. Also the build them in the city I live in. San Antonio.
@@TRDTalk hmm, well then the used to be made in SanAntonio. We have a plant on the south side of the city. Either way, if it’s built in Mexico, somewhat local lol.
Did you even look over or test drive the Tacoma before you brought it ! I mean you spent over $40K and did not check it out on the road? Did you even sit in it at the dealers and notice the steering wheel knee issue. Come on, you did check the back seat room with the drivers seat in your position. No way should anyone feel sorry for you.
People like myself buy TOYOTA TRUCKS for their excellent reliability, we don’t need or want all that stuff & are willing to accept the shortcomings but THE NEW TACOMAS ARE BETTER but you will pay‼️ That being said, the 4Runners are minimal on the technical side but built solid & looks more TRUCKISH ( Is that a word ?) I would not buy any vehicle that has a roaming transmission. Toyota or not. I do not like CVTs either. I love the new Tacomas just waiting to see if the prices will ever go down.
Seems all these things could be discovered on a test drive if you pay attention. As for price, my 2020 Off Road I got new for $6k under MSRP with a free 10 year extended warranty. I understand things are a bit different now but I have helped friends negotiate under MSRP this year so it can be done. Also, I got the 6MT so the transmission and throttle lag issues aren’t an issue.
Looks like you don’t know much about tacoma, I was with you for a minute and then I lost you, got my 2023 (5 tacoma and love them) would never trade them
Did you even look at the truck before buying this thing? Your complaints are rediculous dude. Me thinks you would have known about all of these things prior to purchase. OK..fine..transmission... I'll give you that one
Totally disagree about the interior being outdated. I love the interior, functional without the fluff. And now I’ll contradict that statement to some me complaining about the adaptive cruise control, I wish it were better. 🍻
Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? Geeze sounds like you really didn't do all you could have done prior to purchasing it.......less than 1K miles on it and you hate it!
Yes you do my friend have to spend 300 for a commander because toyota wanted EFF and if you want to fix it you have to come out of pocket. Just like the tune , these trucks suck stock thats why I didnt buy one- just not fun to drive
I got use to the transmission. After the first 1000 miles it seems like its learned how I drive now. It holds shifts longer and accelerates smoother. They don't break so I could care less how clunky it is. If you take your foot off the gas at 50mph and let it coast to slow itself down you will figure out at what speeds it downshifts to engine brake. Mine smoothed out quite a bit. You really just have to give it a little extra throttle to prevent the upshifting. I just got a 2023 SR5 Double Cab Long bed 4x4. The interior is great imo. It doesn't break and cleans easily since its plastic.
I have a 2022 DCLB and especially between 11000 and 15000 my transmission seemed to adapt and it feels really good pretty much all the time now. I have 19000 now. Very enjoyable now!
I actually bought it for less than 50K. My dad was a toyota employee for 30 years and they provide a family discount for dealer cost. MSRP was around $52,500 with the premium if I can remember correctly.
@@NinerK Yah I agree. All immediate family can use the discount if a family member is a current or retired Toyota employee. Dealership honoured it no problem. Good for Toyota.
Let me just say ( Thank You for mentioning the Throttle Lag) I’ve had 3 Tacoma over the years and the last 2 both had the Lag. I traded in my 2019 Tacoma for a 2022 Tundra( No Lag) I do want to test drive the 24 Tacoma when it comes to a Dealership near me.
I disagree about the water bottle sizing. That is not a regular sized water bottle. I also have an SUV and there is no driver side SUV grab bar. The Air vents for the back seats are under the front seats. Tacomas are popular; that is why they are hard to find.
There are air ducts under the front seats that direct heat or cool air to the rear seat passengers. I have 16,500 miles on my TRD Sport. It took about 10,000 miles and by then the truck seemed to adapt to my driving and the gear hunting went away for the most part. It still hunts on the open roads going up hills but I have learned when to slide my gear shift knob to the left which keeps the truck in its one to one ratio 4th gear( 5th and 6th gears are overdrive gears) and the gear hunting goes away but the engine is at a higher rpm of course. I have put Seat Jackers on the front seats which tilt the seats rearward just a little which results in the seat supporting your thigh, making a big difference in comfort. I too am 5-11. I replaced my stock tires with the Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires in the 265/70R17 115T size. These tires are 1 inch taller which gives you better ground clearance and fills the fender wells nicely. This is a 32inch diameter, 10.5 inch wide tire. I live in snow country and they are excellent for snow, better for wet roads, self cleaning of annoying rocks that stick inside the tread and, because of the one inch more sidewall than the stock tires, have a smoother ride. I stayed with the stock wheels because they are unique to the TRD Sport and I think they are a really nice looking wheel. I also have the technology package on my Tacoma which gives you the LED headlights with the cool turn signals, among other cool technology functions.
Thanks so much for the info on the tires! I don’t love the stock tires and would be looking to switch out to something more aggressive, i’ll have to check them out!
@@TRDTalkpro 4 x That’s what I should have bought just the resale value made me decide to stay with Tacoma 2023 last month. I had a 2 gen 09 for 15 years zero issues but this transmission gear hunting is really bad and disappointing
This is a minor gripe, but my wife and I both use the truck and need different seat positions. I hate having to readjust the seat to find my "perfect" seat position after my wife has used the truck. I would think in 2023 the drivers seat at a minimum would have a memory function.
The Overland Torque Tune made me fall back in love with this Tacoma. I had the Pedal Commander and it was a complete waste of money. I have videos about it on my channel if you would like to watch. It’s my complete honest opinion with some facts at the same time 😂
Install an Overland Tailor Tune on your Tacoma and that will STOP the transmission from “hunting” for the right gear. Furthermore it causes 100% of your torque to kick in at 2K RPM instead of the 3,500 RPM. The OTT costs about $500
I just sold my 2019 Tacoma TRD sport premium for 2K more then I bought it for new in Jan 2019 and put a deposit down a new 2024 model. I've had 2 Tacomas and never hand any problems with them. I hope the new 4th gen holds up as good as the previous versions.
Thank you for this video. Your presentation was very helpful. Now I know why I cannot for the life of me find a Toyota Tacoma in Lunar Rock. I'm going to stick with my 2020 Tacoma in Barcelona Red and be grateful I have an awesome truck that runs great.
Appreciate the kind words Nick! Oh man, I almost caved for a white or grey because they weren’t sure they could get it in. Stick with your 2020, it will run forever!
Part of the reason these things keep getting so expensive is people keep wanting more and more useless crap in their interiors like back seat usb ports and air vents. All the computer crap needs to go. A heater and AC is all you really need. There’s so many portable speakers nowadays you really don’t even need a radio if you also have a smart phone (which I do not. My phone still flips) I hate how they keep putting in so much fancy crap as “standard” instead of options. I have a 2017 sr5 and that has so much crap that I don’t even use.
I bought a 2023 TRD Off-road in December 2022. I like the truck overall but the OEM auto transmission programming is straight trash. Even after the OTT tune I’m still not thrilled with it. It lugs constantly as it is always shifting to get into the highest gear possible for fuel efficiency. The tune improved the gear hunting some and greatly improved the throttle lag which has made driving it more tolerable. And it has gotten somewhat smoother over 7k miles but it is still not great. I’m really fighting the urge to test drive the new GMC Canyon. Doubt I would change since the Canyon is brand new and is experiencing some first year issues, but it sure looks good and I wouldn’t mind having that 430 lb/ft of torque on hand. And the Tacoma interior is functional and I like the simplicity of it. It is tight with no rattles or creaks but the quality of materials for the price is subpar. The hard plastics scratch really easily. Especially the gauge cluster. I put PPF on mine to hide the ridiculous surface scratches from lightly wiping dust off the gauge cluster. For $45k, the materials are really lacking.
Thanks for your take on the tune for the viewers! I was seriously considering the Colorado/Canyon as well, the new gen looks very appealing to be honest.
I have a 2023 (TRD Sport in Lunar Rock) and love it. Fixed the peddle lag with a K&N cold air intake and AEM dry filter. I have the long bed. No one else has a long bed. No way would I get a 2024 with the BS turbo.
The number one complaint regarding vehicles seems to be the auto trans. That momentary hesitation (I refer to it as computer thinking time to interact with the other computers), drives me nuts. The manual, you have that tactile engagement, put it in gear, and it responds, instantaneously. That is the main reason that I only like the manual 6 speed transmission. My 2020 Tacoma TRD sport just recently was totalled out in a front end impact. Five air bags deployed. I surely agree with you on the seating position. I am using my 15 year old Nissan Xterra, and the seat support and driving position, imo, far out surpasses the Tacoma. Hopefully the upcoming 2024 model has addressed the issues you bring up. I'm just glad that the 6 speed manual will still be available.
@@itsallminor6133Could you avoid another vehicle if they made a left turn right in front of you, with zero reaction time? I guess I should have ordered my Tacoma with the "instantaneously UFO emergency catapult feature" to blast it up out of the left turning truck range.
2021 Honda Ridgline touring model has better interior features when it comes to comfort, cup holders, USB ports air conditioning and seating space than this 2023 tacoma. The payload on the 2021 Honda Ridgeline is close to 1500 lbs and it can tow a 3000 lbs fishing boat easy. I think most truck buyers buy too much of a truck for their needs. If you had to drive 5 hours and your buddies want to go on a trip and you had a choice to pick the tacoma or the ridgeline to travel in I bet your buddies will pick the Ridgeline because they will choose comfort. It is all personal preference they say but 95 percent of driving need are on the pavement instead off road use. Honda is a mid size truck and if you do not think so try fitting a 4x4 atv in a Honda Pilot or a Passport, you can't. I can tow a boat, a camper, an Atv 4x4 etc. what more can you ask for.
First time Tacome Onwer, bought a brand new 2023 Tacome TRD OR, 7 months ago, I like my truck , but I just got OTT Tune and now my truck is a game changer, stop Crying to all you crybaby and just get it TUNE. I was VERY skeptical at first nit going to lie, but I did my research and I am glad I got the Tune.
I just ordered my 2023 TRD Sport in late November. cant find the TRD Off road trim or order it anymore after going to 3 different states. I finnnaly choose the trd sport in black. Ive test drove them and like them but are very popular and hard to get new in the trim levels above SR5.mine will be here in early to middle December.
I sold my 1997 Tacoma for a 2021 TRD OR a couple of years ago. I am with you on the driver side handle. I really miss that feature during rough road 4x4. Both sides have air bags on the pillar regardless of the handle. Maybe driver side user mods are easier without the handle? Cost? I guess the TacomaWorld forum might have an answer.
100% agree with everything mentioned. I was interested in the Tacomas, but the cramped interior, bad sitting postions, lack of overall usable space, and very outdated and unrefined feel turned me off... Curious how the 2024 are in comparison.
I just bought a 2023 as well. I love it. I wish I got the 4x4 but I’ve never needed it. I think your dislikes are invalid to me. I do agree with the shifting, it is annoying, mine had 4 miles when I got it and I’ve owned it now for 3 weeks and have about 1500 miles on it. I bought it because I wanted one but also the reliability factor. I’m use to a full size truck and I really need one for work because I carry everything for jobs, but then realized I don’t need to. The other guys need to step it up. Plus I don’t like any of the new full sized trucks. My gas mileage is good. Averaging about 20-26mpg. I get better mileage Not using the cruise control. It fluctuates too much. I do love it and will have it till it absolutely dies.
Dude didn't you watch or read any reviews before buying it, all these things are well known and documented, did you think 2023 year will be any different with exactly same components? Nothing new here, if you want to make cool content don't repeat the same things that every youtube car show have said for years. Good luck, I have 19 TRD OR and I love it!!
I just bought a 2020 and have no issues with the trans at all, the truck has 88K kms on it so its used. I have owned all the other makes of pickups and the Toyota is far better than anything I've owned before. This is my 4th taco and I owned one tundra as well.All good
A tune is best for the Taco. It helps with throttle as well as transmission gear hunting. Pedal Commander is great for throttle, but doesn't help gear hunting. Spend the money on the tune.
Yes gas mileage, if you train your taco with ECT on…. A little ruff shifting to start but after the transmission and engine training is done you will find it very responsive pushing the gas pedal a few mm with smooth shifting, holding revs around 1500-2000 rpm shifting around 2200-2500 with a light foot. Just did a road trip to Toronto a few days ago with cruse control on 90 km/hour 8.7 L/100 and the way back at 110-120km/hour at 10.5 L/100km. Never once hunting for gears.
Rides a little ruff for a couple of weeks but stick with it. Now if I drive with it off it takes a few day to get back to its setting. It’s like a built in commander petal. With just the one setting that feels like a manual, even downshifting to 3rd when braking.
Interesting review on what you bought. Granted there are flaws in all trucks. Its almost like you bought it with knowing nothing about it and you are disappointed. I would test drive and check out the truck before buying. You will have fewer disappointments in the future.
You're just pissed off about having to wait so long to get the damn thing. All other complaints are about things you should have found out about the truck before deciding to buy one. If I sound like your dad chewing you out you are right about that. Just sell it for what you paid and get something else.
@@TRDTalk I can live with these 5 short comings, for the sake of having a great pickup. But I have ask why do I have to, they are small things that could be rectified.. I had a 2022, I don't think the 2024 Tacoma's have a handle on the drivers side.
True, old interior and very dated truck for 50k. Toyota is doing nothing new but living off their past products. More reviews should be as honest as yours.
It’ll get better…use your adaptive cruise as often as possible.
I never tuned mine- and I bought it new…(2019 TRD Off Road, Double Cab) after 250k trouble free miles I’m definitely used to it.
We own a lot of vehicles…full sized trucks/SUVs (Yukon XL Denali, Chevy 1/2 ton and mid sized SUVs also). We own a horse farm and this truck goes almost anywhere our (Kawasaki) Mule 6 seater goes.
I actually am pleased with the storage - the under back seats is terrific- I use compression bags and keep a lot of gear in them.
I have ordered a Diamondback Switchback cover…I’ll put it on the new (23) Pro when it comes in.
As for the interior- I am thrilled how it’s held up after 250k miles. The truck is not for backseat passengers…that’s why I wouldn’t recommend it for a family vehicle. I love how the back seats fold down- perfect for dogs.
I usually sell our full sized vehicles (all GMC) around 60-70k miles as experience has taught me the 125-150k mile mark brings issues. We’ve had a few sedans too and off the lot BMW is our favorite…but, The BMWs (7 series) usually have issues much earlier.
Bottom line for me is the Tacoma- while by far the least expensive of the vehicles we buy it is by far the best value. I tell folks it’s like horses…don’t buy a walker/trotter and expect it to compete with the roping horse when roping, know what you need. The Tacoma is a master of very little but does most things well and it is dependable and that to me is a winner.
That’s a great take on the truck! Thanks for sharing.
Definitely a trail horse and not a roper or a barrel racer::::
That said, I love trail horses
Tacoma is like a good old big dog. It may not be the prettiest r trendiest, but it is there for you no matter what.
Haha perfect way to put it!
I've had so many trucks in the past 30+ years of driving (Ram 1500, F150, S10, Ranger . . but my TRD is a true work horse, hauling and towing anything and everything. I will hate the day I will HAVE to sell it.
Tacoma is the trendiest truck and has been for 10 years.
I was going to subscribe but after watching this changed my mind ! Suggestion, buy a smaller bottle !
Great video explaining everything ! I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD off-road & I couldn’t find the right description of what I didn’t like about the transmission issues I’ve been having. I’m at 31k miles & problem hasn’t gone away. Truck consistently is looking for the right gear. Please recommend tunes to fix this issue, thanks. Again great video !
Thanks for the kind words. I would personally recommend the OTT Tune from Overland Tailor. That’s what i’ll be getting done to mine.
Just bought a 23 tacoma trd pro. Gonna get a OTT tune in couple weeks that will take care of throttle lag and the gear hunting.
Congrats on your Pro 👏
You hit the nail on the head as far as reliability goes, I have a 2010 trd sport with 73,000 miles ,.. got the new frame two years ago … still drives like the day I drove it off the show room floor in December of 2009
Incredible! Hoping the same for mine.
Get the Overland Tailor Torque tune. I did and its like I have a different truck. Gear hunting and throttle lag both gone. I have a 23 trd off road and those issues drive me insane. I got the OTT mild to medium tune and couldn't be happier.
Love it, I gotta get mine!
Wondering how much these points were improved in the '24 model. The hybrid version probably improves the throttle lag, and has great gas mileage, but... You pay for it upfront as this is probably the most expensive trim. Also, with all the new complications like turbo and hybrid technology, I am not sure this would have the same famous reliability Toyota trucks always had
I am also very curious to see the MSRP of the new Tacoma hybrid’s. Thanks for your feedback!
The gen 3 is already a dumpster fire as far as reliability is concerned so it cant get much worse. I ignored all the reliability issues on tacoma world and it's abysmal CR survey results because all my Toyota's were incredibly reliable. My '19 had more issues in the 3 years I owned it than every other vehicle I've ever owned combined.
I drive a stick shift 2021 TRD Off Road. Transmission problem solved. You are right about the telescoping steering wheel being too short.
Stick shift for the win!
My 23 OR I never have the gear hunting what so ever , I know people will give me shit about a Throttle controller made by Windbooster around $150 it stopped the throttle lag the truck works like it should and I can put it back to stock in a second , and I know its not a tune but it wakes it up and it works.
@@stoneycarter5546 100%. Pedal Commander solved that issue for me
I don’t care for the steering wheel issue either. Other than that I love driving my ‘23 TRD OFF ROAD 4X4. Personally I would never get the Colorado or Ranger, coming from a life long Chevrolet Owner, they start breaking down after several years. Subbed....
Thanks for checking it out Joe! Yup, Tacoma still the best mid-size truck on the market.
@@TRDTalk 💯, you’re gonna get 500 subs, I’m very confident 👍
@@joehch haha thanks bro, appreciate the support
The longer you own the truck, the more you'll appreciate
Don’t disagree with you there!
I bought my '17 TRD ext cab back in Nov '19. I love it and plan to keep it till it hits 300k. Especially since I hate the new dash in the '24 models.
That’s a crazy water bottle lol
I was starting to think you got paid by someone like nissan or ford to beat this toyota up i love my new tacoma
😂
The transmission never gets better, the seats never get comfortable and the motor is always weak. But they are dependable.
Amen!
Thanks dude for this content, very helpful for those people who don't have any idea about truck, particularly toyota tacoma knowing that they are the best selling mid size in the market.
Thanks for the kind words! Happy holidays.
I have the same exact configuration as yours. I find the same exact things are annoying, especially the steering wheel/seating arrangement. If they had this same configuration with manual transmission, I would've gotten that, but unfortunately they don't have it with long bed.
Same thing here with the configuration. Thanks for checking it out!
I bought a 22 frontier pro x. Love it..
Congrats on your truck!
the one thing I have to say is where you blindfolded when you bought that truck you didn't see these things or when you drove it you didn't notice any of these things why did you buy this truck. I'm not saying that they're not legitimate complaints but the things you are saying I think you should have noticed through driving.
Same reason everyone buys a Tacoma, reliability and re-sale. Thanks for watching!
I get that I own a 2004 Tacoma but that still doesn't explain your your complaints the steering wheel I'm sure you sat in it the back seat legroom you should have seen the poor quality of the interior I would think you would have seen get a water bottle and if you drove it you should have noticed the shifting problemsnot only that it's been all over the Internet about the shifting
@@ralphciancio1721 how do you find the 04? Holding up well?
@@TRDTalk yes it is holding up well a little over 200,000 miles.and I must say that is one fine-looking truck you have there I would rather own it then the 24 with the 2.7 l motor. I don't believe that small motor with turbocharged it's going to have the reliability or the longevity of your 23.
@@ralphciancio1721 Not surprised. That gen is bulletproof. Agreed. I’m not sold on the 4th gen turbocharge, no way it lasts as long.
ugh its not Tie - ota , its Toy - ota.......having to turn off the video because thats driving me crazy
LOL
Just like you say the tranz shifts a lot to get the best mpgs.But one can shift manually in sport mode to control shifts
Good point Gary!
I have a 2022 TRD Off-Road with Manual Trans. Pulling a small tear-drop camper EZ. No complaints here.
I understand tuning your engine to make the transmission smoother, but wouldn’t that void the warranty?
As far as I know, yes. Some shops will remove the tune if you need to use the warranty as part of the original tune price
I love my MANUAL transmission! Had it for a month now.
Congrats on the manual!
Would you buy it again or would you wait for the 2024?
Tough to say. I’ll never buy the first year of a new model but I’m definitely not ruling out a swap for the 4th gen a few years into the model. With that said, primary reason I pulled the trigger on the third gen before they stop production was for the V6. 4th gen looks promising though.
I had to get rid of my 2019 Tacoma I’m 6’ 260 and I did not fit in the driver seat comfortably
Definitely not a truck for taller people
Your one honest guy! Over priced small truck indeed.
Should You Buy a Toyota Tacoma Now? Or Wait for The New One? The Car Care Nut UA-cam Channel
ua-cam.com/video/eqJe5OCdjZc/v-deo.html
Mar 4, 2023
Video Description:
So Should you consider buying a Toyota Tacoma Now? Or wait until the next generation is released?
In this video we discuss what makes the current Toyota Tacoma Good in the 3th generation which is practically unchanged from 2016-2023.
We also discuss what's special about the Tacoma, What are some things that are good with it and some things that are not good.
Then lastly we discuss if you should wait for the new one rumored to be released for 2024.
Have heard they get a little
Squirrely on the highway around big rigs.
Nice truck though.
Haha they do!
Tacoma is made for small people and carries small things.
Great way to put it haha
Pedal Commander is a waste of time, will screw up your engine and cause numerous codes. Go with the Tune.
Thanks for the heads up, leaning that way!
I had more fun with my Nissan Frontier then my new Tacoma. cheaper, faster and looked better The only thing that I like about the Tacoma is it has the outlet in the bed and it’s got more modifications that’s really the only thing The frontier is just as reliable as the Tacoma. everybody can say all they want about how it’s not but they’ve never driven one and they never owned one, everybody that has owed a frontier knows but they’re really reliable the Tacoma it’s just overhyped for no reason.
I gotta say the new Frontier looks very nice. Thanks for your input!
you can get yourself AJT Designs Oversize Cup Holder For Tacoma (2016-2023)
i didnt like my 2022 tacoma sr5 either, owned it for 5 months before selling it. I dreamed about having a tacoma for 14 years lol, i wanted to buy new and couldnt get a good deal until 2022 (of all times lol) but after 5 months im like "really, thats it? this is a tacoma?" i had a 1991 toyota pickup that i sold 5 years ago, i still miss that lil truck all the time. Id rather have a pickup.
Always remember your first haha. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I know exactly what you mean! I sold mine after 2 months, was my dream truck, but was very underwhelmed every time I drove it. Couldn’t live with it.
Worst thing is the useless hood scoop, i just ordered mine 8/31 build date is 10/2 getting a 2023 TRD offroad with offroad package and tech package
Awesome! No scoop to worry about on your Off-Road. Congratulations on your new truck!
@@TRDTalk Lunar Rock as well, but extended cab
@@jdsim9173 you’re gonna love the colour. People comment on the colour of my truck all the time. Worth the extra wait time.
You are going to really like the tech package. My 2021 Army Green TRD Sport came with it. So many features.
Dude, get a water bottle that fits your holders! Lol, thats not anything to complain about.
LOL honestly I feel kinda bad about it after posting this video 😂
same shit on my premium 2020 TRD off road hate that trasmetion search
Couldn’t agree more
Interesting… my 2023 Tacoma has 2 USB ports in the back… and not the top of the line
Which model do you have?
Trd sport
It was an add on you could have selected when building at least here in USA
@@AmericanShiba thanks for confirming! I was super curious as we do not have that option in Canada unfortunately.
I think you should trade it In for a domestic truck instead....imo...lol
The new Colorado is nice I gotta say
Less technology equals less that will break.
Very true!
You should get a Tundra instead
Be lying if it didn’t cross my mind 😂
I can’t believe that Toyota didn’t put a armrest in the truck in the back seat and no heated steering wheel
Heated steering wheel would be really nice!
You can get yourself a pedal commander.
sorry No Tyotta only Toyota
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Terrible color
Said nobody ever
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Where u blind folded when u bought this truck?
My eyesight isn’t what it used to be 😂
He said he didn't put stupid things in the video like gas mileage, but he did put important things in like his favorite sippy cup wouldn't fit in the cup holder.
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I went from having a older model Tacoma to a 2023. I did not notice any of that. It was a breath of fresh air to be in a brand new truck again. My old Tacoma had over 300k on it (still have it) and that’s why it cost so much. My old Tacoma out lived so many of my friends vehicles and way more dependable then any of their trucks. Keep it basic, less things to go wrong. Also the build them in the city I live in. San Antonio.
Congrats on the new truck! All Tacomas are actually now assembled in Mexico.
@@TRDTalk hmm, well then the used to be made in SanAntonio. We have a plant on the south side of the city. Either way, if it’s built in Mexico, somewhat local lol.
@@pb7133 yah they still make the Tundra there in Texas. Regardless, I have no issues with the quality on my 2023 Tacoma made in Mexico
Did you even look over or test drive the Tacoma before you brought it ! I mean you spent over $40K and did not check it out on the road? Did you even sit in it at the dealers and notice the steering wheel knee issue. Come on, you did check the back seat room with the drivers seat in your position. No way should anyone feel sorry for you.
Did you even watch the video lol
get a new water bottle 😂
Lol true
nice truck 🐐
@@ivansito01 thanks for checking it out!
You need a Prius :)
LOL gross
People like myself buy TOYOTA TRUCKS for their excellent reliability, we don’t need or want all that stuff & are willing to accept the shortcomings but THE NEW TACOMAS ARE BETTER but you will pay‼️ That being said, the 4Runners are minimal on the technical side but built solid & looks more TRUCKISH ( Is that a word ?) I would not buy any vehicle that has a roaming transmission. Toyota or not. I do not like CVTs either. I love the new Tacomas just waiting to see if the prices will ever go down.
Thanks for checking it out. The used prices for Tacoma’s are insane yah.
Seems all these things could be discovered on a test drive if you pay attention. As for price, my 2020 Off Road I got new for $6k under MSRP with a free 10 year extended warranty. I understand things are a bit different now but I have helped friends negotiate under MSRP this year so it can be done. Also, I got the 6MT so the transmission and throttle lag issues aren’t an issue.
That’s a wild deal, congrats!
How the hell’s you get 6 off lol
Looks like you don’t know much about tacoma, I was with you for a minute and then I lost you, got my 2023 (5 tacoma and love them) would never trade them
Glad you like it!
Toyota comprada por confiabilidad, durabilidad no por tener estúpidas cosas que solo necesitan algunos estúpidos😊
Did you even look at the truck before buying this thing? Your complaints are rediculous dude. Me thinks you would have known about all of these things prior to purchase. OK..fine..transmission... I'll give you that one
Actually went to the dealership blindfolded to spice things up
Totally disagree about the interior being outdated. I love the interior, functional without the fluff. And now I’ll contradict that statement to some me complaining about the adaptive cruise control, I wish it were better. 🍻
To each their own, it certainly gets the job done! Thanks for your input and checking it out
The air vents on the dash look like it came from the 2012 Toyota matrix lol
Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? Geeze sounds like you really didn't do all you could have done prior to purchasing it.......less than 1K miles on it and you hate it!
Certainly don’t hate it! Have wanted a Tacoma for years.
Yes you do my friend have to spend 300 for a commander because toyota wanted EFF and if you want to fix it you have to come out of pocket. Just like the tune , these trucks suck stock thats why I didnt buy one- just not fun to drive
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6th thing I dislike is the ugly color you chose. Lunar Barf is a girls color. Just ask my sister who bought a Lunar Barf 4Runner.
That’s strange, i get comments on the colour of my truck all the time. Most people love lunar rock.
I got use to the transmission. After the first 1000 miles it seems like its learned how I drive now. It holds shifts longer and accelerates smoother. They don't break so I could care less how clunky it is. If you take your foot off the gas at 50mph and let it coast to slow itself down you will figure out at what speeds it downshifts to engine brake. Mine smoothed out quite a bit. You really just have to give it a little extra throttle to prevent the upshifting. I just got a 2023 SR5 Double Cab Long bed 4x4. The interior is great imo. It doesn't break and cleans easily since its plastic.
Happy to hear your transmission levelled out.
I have a 2022 DCLB and especially between 11000 and 15000 my transmission seemed to adapt and it feels really good pretty much all the time now. I have 19000 now. Very enjoyable now!
You bought this for $50K CAD with a premium package? I find that cheap for Canada. Usually, Tacomas are expensive there.
I actually bought it for less than 50K. My dad was a toyota employee for 30 years and they provide a family discount for dealer cost. MSRP was around $52,500 with the premium if I can remember correctly.
That’s awesome! My next door neighbor is a Tesla employee and no discount at all. Except for merchandise
Good for Toyota
@@NinerK Yah I agree. All immediate family can use the discount if a family member is a current or retired Toyota employee. Dealership honoured it no problem. Good for Toyota.
Let me just say ( Thank You for mentioning the Throttle Lag) I’ve had 3 Tacoma over the years and the last 2 both had the Lag. I traded in my 2019 Tacoma for a 2022 Tundra( No Lag) I do want to test drive the 24 Tacoma when it comes to a Dealership near me.
Congrats on the Tundra! Great trucks.
throttle lag can be fixed with ott tune for like 300 bucks.
@@eldinko83 I will have to look into that, thanks for the info!
I disagree about the water bottle sizing. That is not a regular sized water bottle. I also have an SUV and there is no driver side SUV grab bar. The Air vents for the back seats are under the front seats. Tacomas are popular; that is why they are hard to find.
All fair takes! Thanks for checking it out.
There are air ducts under the front seats that direct heat or cool air to the rear seat passengers. I have 16,500 miles on my TRD Sport. It took about 10,000 miles and by then the truck seemed to adapt to my driving and the gear hunting went away for the most part. It still hunts on the open roads going up hills but I have learned when to slide my gear shift knob to the left which keeps the truck in its one to one ratio 4th gear( 5th and 6th gears are overdrive gears) and the gear hunting goes away but the engine is at a higher rpm of course. I have put Seat Jackers on the front seats which tilt the seats rearward just a little which results in the seat supporting your thigh, making a big difference in comfort. I too am 5-11. I replaced my stock tires with the Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires in the 265/70R17 115T size. These tires are 1 inch taller which gives you better ground clearance and fills the fender wells nicely. This is a 32inch diameter, 10.5 inch wide tire. I live in snow country and they are excellent for snow, better for wet roads, self cleaning of annoying rocks that stick inside the tread and, because of the one inch more sidewall than the stock tires, have a smoother ride. I stayed with the stock wheels because they are unique to the TRD Sport and I think they are a really nice looking wheel. I also have the technology package on my Tacoma which gives you the LED headlights with the cool turn signals, among other cool technology functions.
Thanks so much for the info on the tires! I don’t love the stock tires and would be looking to switch out to something more aggressive, i’ll have to check them out!
I LOVE my 2002 Tacoma, wouldn’t take $10,000 for her
Awesome! Still running strong eh?
Yes, I never open the hood
I have a 2023 Tacoma I hate it overrated for sure
Thanks for watching Greg! What would you have went with instead?
@@TRDTalkpro 4 x That’s what I should have bought just the resale value made me decide to stay with Tacoma 2023 last month. I had a 2 gen 09 for 15 years zero issues but this transmission gear hunting is really bad and disappointing
I got my 2022 Tacoma TRD OR to pick up girls so far I’m liking it 😊
Congratulations on your new truck :)
This is a minor gripe, but my wife and I both use the truck and need different seat positions. I hate having to readjust the seat to find my "perfect" seat position after my wife has used the truck. I would think in 2023 the drivers seat at a minimum would have a memory function.
Never even thought of that, great idea!
The Overland Torque Tune made me fall back in love with this Tacoma. I had the Pedal Commander and it was a complete waste of money. I have videos about it on my channel if you would like to watch. It’s my complete honest opinion with some facts at the same time 😂
Thanks so much for sharing! Definitely leaning to the tune. Cool truck btw.
@@TRDTalk thank you very much 🙏
Install an Overland Tailor Tune on your Tacoma and that will STOP the transmission from “hunting” for the right gear. Furthermore it causes 100% of your torque to kick in at 2K RPM instead of the 3,500 RPM.
The OTT costs about $500
I just sold my 2019 Tacoma TRD sport premium for 2K more then I bought it for new in Jan 2019 and put a deposit down a new 2024 model. I've had 2 Tacomas and never hand any problems with them. I hope the new 4th gen holds up as good as the previous versions.
That’s incredible. Congrats!!
Question is would you buy this truck again or something else? I’m not into the technology. To much to go wrong.
Would buy it again in a heartbeat. I was considering the new Chevy Colorado but nothing beats the Tacoma in my opinion.
Thank you for this video. Your presentation was very helpful. Now I know why I cannot for the life of me find a Toyota Tacoma in Lunar Rock. I'm going to stick with my 2020 Tacoma in Barcelona Red and be grateful I have an awesome truck that runs great.
Appreciate the kind words Nick! Oh man, I almost caved for a white or grey because they weren’t sure they could get it in. Stick with your 2020, it will run forever!
Use the Pedal Commander/Sprint Booster, so it will improve. The investment is minor compared to value of truck you purchased.
Agree there, definitely something on my list!
Part of the reason these things keep getting so expensive is people keep wanting more and more useless crap in their interiors like back seat usb ports and air vents. All the computer crap needs to go. A heater and AC is all you really need. There’s so many portable speakers nowadays you really don’t even need a radio if you also have a smart phone (which I do not. My phone still flips) I hate how they keep putting in so much fancy crap as “standard” instead of options. I have a 2017 sr5 and that has so much crap that I don’t even use.
Gotta respect the flip phone commitment!
I am waiting for the 24/25 model year
Fair!
I bought a 2023 TRD Off-road in December 2022. I like the truck overall but the OEM auto transmission programming is straight trash. Even after the OTT tune I’m still not thrilled with it. It lugs constantly as it is always shifting to get into the highest gear possible for fuel efficiency. The tune improved the gear hunting some and greatly improved the throttle lag which has made driving it more tolerable. And it has gotten somewhat smoother over 7k miles but it is still not great. I’m really fighting the urge to test drive the new GMC Canyon. Doubt I would change since the Canyon is brand new and is experiencing some first year issues, but it sure looks good and I wouldn’t mind having that 430 lb/ft of torque on hand. And the Tacoma interior is functional and I like the simplicity of it. It is tight with no rattles or creaks but the quality of materials for the price is subpar. The hard plastics scratch really easily. Especially the gauge cluster. I put PPF on mine to hide the ridiculous surface scratches from lightly wiping dust off the gauge cluster. For $45k, the materials are really lacking.
Thanks for your take on the tune for the viewers! I was seriously considering the Colorado/Canyon as well, the new gen looks very appealing to be honest.
I have a 2023 (TRD Sport in Lunar Rock) and love it. Fixed the peddle lag with a K&N cold air intake and AEM dry filter. I have the long bed. No one else has a long bed. No way would I get a 2024 with the BS turbo.
@@GerryNalepa-k1h i’m with you, bring back the V6
The number one complaint regarding vehicles seems to be the auto trans. That momentary hesitation (I refer to it as computer thinking time to interact with the other computers), drives me nuts. The manual, you have that tactile engagement, put it in gear, and it responds, instantaneously. That is the main reason that I only like the manual 6 speed transmission. My 2020 Tacoma TRD sport just recently was totalled out in a front end impact. Five air bags deployed. I surely agree with you on the seating position. I am using my 15 year old Nissan Xterra, and the seat support and driving position, imo, far out surpasses the Tacoma. Hopefully the upcoming 2024 model has addressed the issues you bring up. I'm just glad that the 6 speed manual will still be available.
Great take, thanks for checking it out!
@@itsallminor6133Could you avoid another vehicle if they made a left turn right in front of you, with zero reaction time? I guess I should have ordered my Tacoma with the "instantaneously UFO emergency catapult feature" to blast it up out of the left turning truck range.
2021 Honda Ridgline touring model has better interior features when it comes to comfort, cup holders, USB ports air conditioning and seating space than this 2023 tacoma. The payload on the 2021 Honda Ridgeline is close to 1500 lbs and it can tow a 3000 lbs fishing boat easy.
I think most truck buyers buy too much of a truck for their needs. If you had to drive 5 hours and your buddies want to go on a trip and you had a choice to pick the tacoma or the ridgeline to travel in I bet your buddies will pick the Ridgeline because they will choose comfort. It is all personal preference they say but 95 percent of driving need are on the pavement instead off road use. Honda is a mid size truck and if you do not think so try fitting a 4x4 atv in a Honda Pilot or a Passport, you can't. I can tow a boat, a camper, an Atv 4x4 etc. what more can you ask for.
Thanks for your take Tommy!
Why did you buy it if it sucks so bad?
Still the best mid-size in comparison to what’s out there in my opinion
First time Tacome Onwer, bought a brand new 2023 Tacome TRD OR, 7 months ago, I like my truck , but I just got OTT Tune and now my truck is a game changer, stop Crying to all you crybaby and just get it TUNE. I was VERY skeptical at first nit going to lie, but I did my research and I am glad I got the Tune.
Awesome news, thanks for sharing for all of us considering the tune :)
I just ordered my 2023 TRD Sport in late November. cant find the TRD Off road trim or order it anymore after going to 3 different states. I finnnaly choose the trd sport in black. Ive test drove them and like them but are very popular and hard to get new in the trim levels above SR5.mine will be here in early to middle December.
Congrats on the new sport!
Must be a Tacoma thing. I'm all the time just sitting in my truck lol
I sold my 1997 Tacoma for a 2021 TRD OR a couple of years ago. I am with you on the driver side handle. I really miss that feature during rough road 4x4. Both sides have air bags on the pillar regardless of the handle. Maybe driver side user mods are easier without the handle? Cost? I guess the TacomaWorld forum might have an answer.
I’m glad I finally found someone who is bothered by the non existent handle haha drives me crazy
This is a real snowflake😂 it's a midsize truck, not a semi by the way AC vents around the rear driver seat on the floor as well. You know your truck.
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100% agree with everything mentioned.
I was interested in the Tacomas, but the cramped interior, bad sitting postions, lack of overall usable space, and very outdated and unrefined feel turned me off... Curious how the 2024 are in comparison.
Fair enough! Thanks for checking it out.
I just bought a 2023 as well. I love it. I wish I got the 4x4 but I’ve never needed it. I think your dislikes are invalid to me. I do agree with the shifting, it is annoying, mine had 4 miles when I got it and I’ve owned it now for 3 weeks and have about 1500 miles on it. I bought it because I wanted one but also the reliability factor. I’m use to a full size truck and I really need one for work because I carry everything for jobs, but then realized I don’t need to. The other guys need to step it up. Plus I don’t like any of the new full sized trucks. My gas mileage is good. Averaging about 20-26mpg. I get better mileage Not using the cruise control. It fluctuates too much. I do love it and will have it till it absolutely dies.
Congrats on your new truck!
Dude didn't you watch or read any reviews before buying it, all these things are well known and documented, did you think 2023 year will be any different with exactly same components? Nothing new here, if you want to make cool content don't repeat the same things that every youtube car show have said for years. Good luck, I have 19 TRD OR and I love it!!
Still plenty of things to love about this truck!
I just bought a 2020 and have no issues with the trans at all, the truck has 88K kms on it so its used. I have owned all the other makes of pickups and the Toyota is far better than anything I've owned before. This is my 4th taco and I owned one tundra as well.All good
4th Tacoma, respect 🫡
Typical complaints for 3G tacoma, I have no problem further after getting mine tuned by OTT. It's no fancy stuff but solid everywhere on and off road.
Great to hear! Looking at getting mine tuned as well. Thanks for your input!
A tune is best for the Taco. It helps with throttle as well as transmission gear hunting. Pedal Commander is great for throttle, but doesn't help gear hunting. Spend the money on the tune.
Perfect, thanks for the feedback!
Yes gas mileage, if you train your taco with ECT on…. A little ruff shifting to start but after the transmission and engine training is done you will find it very responsive pushing the gas pedal a few mm with smooth shifting, holding revs around 1500-2000 rpm shifting around 2200-2500 with a light foot.
Just did a road trip to Toronto a few days ago with cruse control on 90 km/hour 8.7 L/100 and the way back at 110-120km/hour at 10.5 L/100km. Never once hunting for gears.
@@blazingblunt5762 sweet! Thanks for your input. Hello from Waterloo.
Rides a little ruff for a couple of weeks but stick with it. Now if I drive with it off it takes a few day to get back to its setting.
It’s like a built in commander petal. With just the one setting that feels like a manual, even downshifting to 3rd when braking.
Bro should have bought a camry
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I bought a 21 sr5 in may 23 with 23k on it. I have not noticed the gear hunting at all like everyone says. Maybe it was updated but I don’t see it.
Congrats on being one of the lucky ones haha
Interesting review on what you bought. Granted there are flaws in all trucks. Its almost like you bought it with knowing nothing about it and you are disappointed. I would test drive and check out the truck before buying. You will have fewer disappointments in the future.
Appreciate it!
You're just pissed off about having to wait so long to get the damn thing. All other complaints are about things you should have found out about the truck before deciding to buy one. If I sound like your dad chewing you out you are right about that. Just sell it for what you paid and get something else.
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Dwayne???????? I wasn't expecting to see you here
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@@TRDTalk great video man
Your 5 complaints are the same complaints I have. Not having a handle on the drivers side is just plain stupid.
I didn’t think other people would care about not having a handle, i’m so glad i’m not the only one. Drives me crazy haha.
@@TRDTalk I can live with these 5 short comings, for the sake of having a great pickup. But I have ask why do I have to, they are small things that could be rectified.. I had a 2022, I don't think the 2024 Tacoma's have a handle on the drivers side.
Maybe the steering wheel ?
True, old interior and very dated truck for 50k. Toyota is doing nothing new but living off their past products. More reviews should be as honest as yours.
Thanks for the kind words, appreciate the view!