@@rhettmitchella couple weeks ago. I personally wanna know why they would do that when the person posting the link is the video's creator. it hurts shorts creators who are trying to get more longform video engagement they should've just disabled links that go to sites outside of UA-cam.
Omg she could've just stopped. She did it for MONEY & FAME, yet she's the type like AOC that would show up saying Eat the Rich knowing damn we she IS the rich benefiting off capitalism like everyone else
For those of you who don’t understand she’s saying the working conditions were not great. It sounds like her writers team had half the resources of writers teams at a similar scale on tv. That’s bound to be an ineffective workplace.
But the working conditions really shouldn’t have an effect on your writing.. like she said herself that they were really talented and funny.. so they should be able to come up with good stuff even if it’s just with a piece of paper and pencil in a dungeon..
@@whoville1064”working conditions shouldn’t have an effect on your writing” - what? You’re telling me, that when you’re stressed, in less than ideal conditions, and overworked - you still put out your best work? You, week after week, can put out 100% when your working conditions don’t support that??? Revisit this mindset once you’re not a child - work output is directly related to working conditions.
@@giannidescalzo2101 “romanticizing” 💀 do you know wtf that word means? How is saying that a good crew should be able to do their job if they’re so good at it like she says they are romanticizing anything?
Thats why traditionally hosts have a writing background, a stand-up background, or an improv background. Conan was more hilarious during the writers strike, when he was doing almost everything unscripted, or loosely scripted.
Yup! Conan O Brien also wrote for the Simpsons and SNL before he had his own show, he is also great and doing improv and actually excels with this type of content. After seeing “Conan without borders” I’m convinced that traveling while interviewing people is his best type of content.
considering all this, lilly did an amazing job then for someone without all that background. she still carried a whole late night show for however long she did... everyone is humiliating her. i don't know how much of it can be called a set up for her to not succeed though. because she was a beginner and first person of her league to do this, it's like she kinda had a huge burden to carry and make work for her and it was all on her. for someone starting, they gave her something small, i don't think that's unfair but i also can't speak to it because idk sh!t about the industry and don't know what it's like. what if every host needs a bigger room from the jump in order to succeed. what if it's compulsory and determines the trajectory of success.
She's always been bad, still can't understand what people saw in her beyond consistency ? She was consistent and hard working but never talented comedically
I LOVE her for admitting this. Used to eat up her content and couldn’t stand it when she was getting shit on. But admittedly didn’t like the content either. What a legend for being candid
The conspiracy theorist part of me was that network exec levels could easily make an example out of her to keep new talent out (play into the assumption women or minorities aren't funny), especially if it threatens the ratings or writing pool for other projects. I used to hate Lily simply because of the few clips from her show but I understand her a bit more now.
probably because she was trying to keep her show alive even if she didn't like it bc it was a stable income for her and the whole crew. also probably bc the issues were ones she was aware of and couldn't fix due to resources/execs. she was pissed because they were right and she knew it but couldn't do anything. that's my guess.@@bq2833
@@kaskaskasno it’s pretty much the exact definition of putting out terrible content on purpose…. If she knew it was terrible then she put it out on purpose lmao
I don’t think directors have a say in writing, they do have a say in what they say (as she pointed out) but all movie directors and producers have screen writers
And since she was director, shouldn't she have had SOME influence over the writing? She's not helpless. Her improv, what little there was of it, was pretty bad too
Ppl saying that her writers need to give her better jokes haven't seen her yt videos from 2013-2014 (they are not as bad as her late night show but still pretty unfunny)
@@BananasPogoshe isnt even blaming anyone u must be sped😭 she clearly said her writers r talented be so fucking fr and what comments r u talking bout lol u just clearly hate her sm its idiotic she admitted to her jokes being unfunny yall still wanna jump her😭😭🙏
No you shouldn't feel bad. She is just not good at what she tried to do, but her ego prevents her from admitting failure so she just makes excuses for it.
@DanielSmith-nf3lv what she saying makes sense if you consider she was funny enough to grow as the top subbed woman of her time. But not any of her fans could actually say her show was fun.
@@c.lineofficial Nah, he calls his audience "Guy," but this could be a joke because there's a very long running joke that Danny & Drew are the same person.
Yeah, I mean, if the stuff isn’t funny…write funnier stuff. Or lower your salary in order to hire more writers. There’s a saying in golf: “Play better golf.” It’s amazing how many problems it solves.
comedy usually takes a really long time to write, plus it goes under review from loads of different ppl, if you’ve got half the ppl and half the time, material just ain’t got time to be refined
@@justsomename-ct1mb well yh, but think about a funny situation you were in, something that you still laugh about today. have you ever tried telling someone a funny story but it doesn’t sound funny when you recount it and they don’t get it? chances are that story is funny, you just haven’t told it right, good comedy writers refine and test and refine again until they got everybody laughing. it’s the same with all jokes, they take work. problem is, if you and the idk like 3 other ppl are given a couple days to write a whole comedy set, you might put shit in that’s only kinda funny or hasn’t been written properly to be the funniest it can be, then if you don’t have the time to work on it, it’s gonna come out pretty bad now you can find lily singh not funny, that’s alright, comedy is the most subjective art form, but do remember it’s an art that takes a lot of time and work
@@leeartedwards again. There’s a difference between kind of funny and not funny at all. What she was describing sounds bad, terrible in fact. But that’s a quality issue not a quantity. It only takes ONE funny person to write ONE funny joke. So if she had a room full of supposedly funny writers how come there wasn’t a single funny joke. Consistently. And as for that example, that’s different from writing. One is and the other is preparing something funny with a prompt, both are extremely easy IF your funny. Actually funny. I think a lot of the issue comes from that word being thrown around too much. I could understand if most of the jokes were bad. Or if some of them fell flat. Or if it felt rushed or whatever. But all of that is different than having a bunch of people (no matter how many) turn in jokes that are ALL terrible. It’s impossible to have multiple “writers” together (no matter how many more people they may need ideally” and not come out with a single, just one, funny thing.
Just so people know in the vid she says that her writers room was half the size and due to a lower budget, while other shows were filming one episode a day they had to do 3 within the span of 96(or something) leading everyone to be VERY burnt out.
@@KS-xk2so look I’m just saying what she said. Or at least what I think she said it’s been a couple days since I watched the video. If you’d like you can watch it yourself.
@@KS-xk2soyou have weekends. Plus, not all of the episodes were released. There was a UA-camr who went to the live shows and she said that she went to 3 shows and none of them had aired. She wanted to compare the live event with the edited one to critique on it and according to her, they did not air.
im a POC and i couldnt sit through a single episode. the entire show from start to finish is WHITE MEN = BAD IM RICH, YOU'RE POOR LMAO she had every opportunity to change it at any time it was her fkn show. she just couldnt handle the backlash she didnt plan on getting. because what humour is easier in 2023 than slandering the entire white race? be honest
@@WaffleSaladlmao, you think Lilly is the only person who has ever been under any kind of pressure in Hollywood. Craig Ferguson had 4 writers compared to 7 for Lilly, yet he was funny and insightful every day.
@@aolson1111 they had to do 3x the work of the other late night shows with a smaller crew. They shot three episodes a day instead of other comedians that do one a day. Plus she had to film them all in advance (that means no jokes about current news/topics bc they would no longer be relevant and funny)
the industry took advantage of lily so awfully they changed her entire content to fit a certain demographic that most of her recurring viewers known her for. her content was super fresh & funny & original not seen on here before by a poc woman! sad to see they milked her work like that but she’s always been a creative mind & funny asf 😂 EDIT: stay MAD
@@RoseGoldPDXand if I recall she doubled down on the white/men jokes hard and helped exclude certain demographics from her audience, instead of naturally attracting those who would enjoy her content.
Uh, no. She’s definitely not some sort of victim in this. Self awareness is important and she could have just said no. She could have realized that her style was more suited for skits and kids and also, she was making so much money on UA-cam. She got greedy and power hungry and wanted to move up in the world as she saw it. She was doing amazing on UA-cam. She’s just not funny in interviews and as a stand alone comedian. The people who are funny in that way don’t need writers. Ever watch your favorite comedians in interviews? No writing, just talking off the cuff and they’re hilarious. Those comedians may not be suited to doing great on UA-cam. Like Bill Burr. He’s one of my favorites, funny on stage and as a comedian but his UA-cam channel doesn’t do great. You have to know HOW you’re funny and stick with it. I don’t hate her or anything, I used to really love her skits, but she just isn’t funny in the talk show kinda way. There’s nothing wrong with that. She has plenty of talent, but it doesn’t translate to that type of comedy. No amount of writers could’ve fixed that. You need great timing, charisma, and other intangibles to be funny in the way she was trying to be.
@@surreal-wandererit seems it doesn't need more, but better writers. You guys put out so much garbage, it's just sad. The solution is easy. Put out less stuff and and hire talented people for it and the rest go, since it's obviously not their thing. But no we're not doing that. People fail and get promoted for it. Get jobs to fill a quota and not because they're actually qualified to do it good. So yeah, go strike. It won't improve quality. It's just for untalented people, that shouldn't work there in the first place, to keep their job and put out more shit into the world. That is the reality of things.
@@mailtears oh no, were these few words allready too much for you to handle? You poor soul. I know reading is hard. Here have a few more. Or did you just don't like what i had to say? Either way it doesn't matter. We still get garbage movies from talentless writers. Hollywoods relevance dwindles as people have cought on.
She’s been making UA-cam videos since like 2012 before she became an official comedian, and she actually used to be pretty funny. Yeah people change, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t her fault.
She's so cringe lol. I cant see how anyone could like her jokes. It's basically a political show made with comedy instead of a comedy show that talks about politics
I admire her for admitting this, but she kept saying that people criticizing the writing of her show were haters and would talk about how successful she was compared to everyone talking about her show.
It’s still a pretty big deal. Plus, people can learn and grow. She def had an ego back then and I stopped watching her completely, but a lot of people were hating on her back then for the stupid things too.
I personally think she wasn’t allowed to say any of this, because she probably had a contact with the network, so she wasn’t allowed to say that what she was saying wasn’t funny, and she also was like probably embarrassed and just wanted to protect herself because she was upset that she had to say thisbstuff and pretend that it was funny when she didn’t think it was funny
@@joelp23she is the first UA-camr realistically to have had her own late night talk show, unfortunately that definitely doesn’t hold up in mainstream Hollywood it seems.
@@joelp23 Lmao how old are you? Ever heard of a little thing called being professional? Start working kiddo and then you will understand that there are plenty of things at work you dont agree with but you have to put on a smile and do it anyway. Its called life.
But the way she handled that criticism was horrible...and she said the critics were virgins, like that's somehow an insult? She was also virgin for a long time? Hypocrisy.
@@MrColdwilliamexcept the crappy project is THEIRS to take accountability for - that’s not the same scripted tv. Idk where people get this magnifying glass to see victimhood charade on other people at any place where they are processing justification.
that’s not an excuse, if Smosh could write funny videos back when it was just the 2 of them then her “FUNNY” writers could also work with what they have as well, she says they were really funny so how are they writing crap jokes?
@@r1r1_1. that doesn’t really justify anything. If you don’t have a comedic background why try to make a comedic show, and anyway this comment was about the writers
@@zenthous9568 probably cause she thought the show would go alright and won't be as bad as it is rn and she probably doesn't have funny writers either idk why she said that cause if they were the jokes would've been funny too I don't think she had the proper resources for this too she just started it cause she was getting famous cause of her relatable youtube videos and thought the show can't go that wrong but here we r now
Stop stop stop. I worked for a super successful LATE NIGHT talk show and she absolutely chooses her jokes every day, and to pander, “not blaming the writers”? I saw her writers group, the show I worked for had the same size room. The writers pour over media every day looking for content, and they’re constantly searching for material, they make a ton of recommendations in the morning and she goes through and picks and chooses what she wants. Then they polish and she contributes. I call BS
Lilly, they are LITERALLY the same exact "jokes" youve always said, and still do.....Like LITERALLY. Did those writers also write your personal Ted Talk?
She's just making excuses and saying she knows that it was bad now to try and help her public image. Because it wasn't even the quality of the jokes that was the main problem; it was the whole condescending, divisive *style* of comedy that she's not going to convince me that she herself didn't choose to do.
Going to call bulshit on that. I remember a few years ago when her talk show came out and people were talking about how bad it was, obviously there were people just being Trolls but there was a lot of people giving constructive criticism and all she ever did was talk about how successful she was and how funny she was. What I think happened was that she went from making content for children that was relatively easy to make, to making content for adults which proved to be out of her field of depth.
She wasn't the one writing her show and on contracts you have to promote your show and you can't talk shit about it, sometimes ever if you sign an NDA. Also how embarrassing to have to admit you know your show you dreamed of was shit.
Was she supposed to talk negatively about a project she’s the face of? That’s not a good look either. I do think she should’ve ignored the hate or be more chill about it. It would’ve made her look a little more confident
@@gracekang2161 i agree with ur sentiment but she’s blaming everyone around her instead, so honestly the show STILL looks bad but now it’s even more off putting since she’s just separating herself from them even tho they were supposed to symbolize a team. it’s embarrassing to throw them under the bus
What a lot of people forget is, her delivery wasn't helping either. The thing is, if you gave Kristen Wiig, Sarah Paulson, Jessica Kirson or Kate Mckinnon a show, they would've become the next THING. Lilly was never that funny to begin with, and there's nothing wrong with that, we all suck at something. All it takes is time and practice, but she doesn't think she needs it, she's a know-it-all
When she was confronted about the show being bad in the past, I remember her getting very defensive and claiming people didn’t like it because they’re discriminating against her race, sexuality, and gender. She said some pretty nasty things about people critiquing her. Why is she now willing to admit she knew it was bad? Is she going to apologize for her previous comments?
@@Pidatha It does but if people actually watched the video and listened to her explain the process and her own views leading up to some of the responses you would understand that truly was the case. She had been set up to fail. And when she realized her ship was sinking, she still had to step out wearing a big smile. There was no way she could have been able to walk away not feeling some type of way about a failed show. Add on some critical and rude comments and of course she would snap. Cause even though the show may have flopped that was a test of a mettle for her, and some could argue she passed(mettle-wise). But she didn't pass the aftermath, she couldn’t handle the comments which shitted on her unseen efforts, and resolve, let's not forget she was kinda set up to fail. Of course it felt personal. Of course she personally felt attacked. If anything this is another reason why when you get to a certain level you should have a team that keeps you off the internet because when you start a downward spiral there's no taking it back. Lilly acknowledged that some channels critiquing her were spot on BUT there were some who were straight up rude and not at all understanding. So why would they deserve an apology? You can't hold Lilly to one standard and then not hold the rude ass Channels to the same standard. Let's not pretend people weren't rude af to her and that channels dragging her didn't exist.
Aren’t you a human? Defending something you invested so much time blood sweat and tears should not be a foreign concept if you’ve ever lived or gone outside
Hold on so the writers are funny but since there were not a lot of them, it’s not funny? I don’t get it. I mean the more the merrier and more people can check other people ideas and work but how can they be funny but the idea not be funny?
They were being funny, but I don’t think that they were able to bounce ideas off each other as much considering she said that the writers room is a lot smaller and they probably have bus time so you can be funny but then end up not writing a funny script
funny people can still have bad jokes. some things work, some don't and sometimes you just misread the tone. doesn't help if you're tired, stressed and have a low budget.
People should go watch the first 8 minutes of the full video. This clip comes up along with context that’s edited out of the short. She did not just have half the writers. She had half the writers, pumping out THREE episodes a day. Other late night shows record one per weekday, and they do it day of. Her schedule was to pre record all 90 episodes back to back, which also implies she can’t be commenting on daily happenings the way late night shows usually do.
The only reason for all this was to accommodate her own already packed schedule. Her rep negotiated this pace, hoping Lilly could just show up & perform instead of WORKING on her own show at all. She should have been honest about not having time when NBC approached but it’s all about ego. The money & opportunity was too good to pass up I guess…
whole comedy movies have been written by two people and are hilarious and stand the test of time. if you cant make something funny with 1 writer you will never make it funny with a group of people no matter how big that room gets.
Sounds like damage control to me. It's not just her show that was unfunny. She did it for a paycheck because she wasn't bothered about making UA-cam content at the time. Pitching a late night comedy show for a zoomer audience when the format was dieing for 5 years prior was just a horrible business decision by management anyway
she mentioned in the full video, if you watch it, that the contract they had was for 96 episodes in 3 months. she went into it fully intending to make youtube videos at the same time, but soon realised that wasn't possible. Also, of course she did it for the paycheck. Most of us work for a paycheck. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't even bother getting out of bed most days
But she already had a paycheck for the work she was doing and a decent paycheck at that. However, she let greed win and chased a bigger paycheck for what she deemed as less work, and it has rightfully ruined her reputation, which granted not hard but still. No matter how you slice it she was well off and didn't need more money yet she chased it anyway.
@@Not_An_EV " as less work"? 96 episodes in 3 months was gonna be less work? i really suggest you watch the full episode. she seems like a hardworking person and it seemed more about the challenge of doing something new. it's really worthy of respect. also, i don't think she should regret it because it failed, as she herself put it in the full video, it accomplished other things. also, there's nothing wrong with chasing more money. again, we all do it. quitting a job to go to a better paying one is incredibly common, and it's called career growth.
it was a good opportunity n tbh i don’t think her reputations been ruined. the jokes there were just cringier versions of what she was already doing on youtube, she was just given a different platform. though i can understand your point about greed (and somewhat agree with it, there’s an inherent greediness to these sorts of things)i think she was also trying to cement herself into a different industry. multiple things can exist at once !!
Exactly. She got the bag. She got the “fame” (just not the way she wanted), she couldn’t lead the show in a good direction so didn’t get more resources. All while she got paid the most out of anyone on the show and walked away with the bank. Now she gets to sit here and take zero responsibility and claim she herself is a victim. Give me a break. If that’s a victim, sign me up.
Ok. Less people means less resources, I get that. But those fewer people can still be funny and good at what they do, no? Less people would explain inconsistency in quality to fill out the airtime, but not always missing the mark. If you or your people are good at their format it has to hit sometimes, right? To me, the honest impression is that: 1. UA-cam Humor does not really translate on TV, which is fine. 2. The established format of the rigid Night Talk Show was just not a good fit for her or any female UA-camr, as pointed out by people like Brittany Broski. 3. People trying to write for you and dilute your appeal in the process, by just trying to imitate something you might say, is always bad. Honestly it is a tale as old as time by now, as to why a lot of UA-camrs ditched trying to do TV and stuff: They dont want YOU as a person, they want your AVATAR to bring in a new audience, but you are forced to still project their same old content/format. Which is a recipe for disaster, because UA-cam Personalities get famous FOR their personality, it is in the name. If they limit your selfexpression which got you so far in the first place you will tank, because your fans recognize it is not really you and the rest of the audience does not know what to make of you.
If 1 person has to do the work of 2 people, it's always gonna be worse. Everything has to be less good, in order for it to all be done at the end of the day.
@@chiedzawith2ds While I somewhat agree, imo there is more to it. The disconnect between UA-camrs and TV people, be it writers, hosts etc. Something is not clicking, mainly the need for structure and strict monitoring that takes away what makes a UA-camr special in the first place. TV shows have a different, broader audience - so the nisché that got you famous on UA-cam is not sufficient enough to create mass-appealing content. And thats where writers start to think "Well, what COULD a/this UA-camr say, but also fit our show?" and it is downhill from there. You cant make the UA-camr a blank slate Avatar for the writers' talent to shine through, cuz why cast a UA-camr in the first place then? But you also cant make the UA-camr do all the work by themselves, because of the tight time schedule. So the in between solution always comes off as hollow and not genuine. So to me, them not being able to make her funny, is more about the format and disconnect, than people - otherwise something would have been good or promising...although understaffing obviously did not help
The producers half-assed the show. The writers were underpaid and overworked. Lily was very new to the talk show business. It's a miracle that the show went on as long as it did. It's true you can be funny with few people in the writing room, but what if those few people were under so much stress like she tells in the video? You cannot be comedic when you're stressed.
Well , there's a red flag. "I didnt get the right setup. I wasn't given enough" , and so the apparatus is at fault , "NOT ME" . Didnt get a big enough team. Well Lily, your hosting was uncomfortable and painful to watch too, go find someone to blame for that now. She's so full of herself I swear
You saw that with the earlier writers' strike. Some shows continued to be funny without writers and some weren't (although the Daily Show relied heavily on Brit John Oliver and Canadians Samantha Bee and Jason Jones).
That’s literally what i just said. It should only take ONE funny person to make at least ONE funny joke. Let alone if everybody isn’t here was “funny”. Everybody throws that word around nowadays, everybody thinks they’re funny. But in reality people are just easy to entertain and the skill ceiling is lower if you’re an follower and an idiot. It makes being actually funny both more rewarding, and more annoying perceptively. 🤦🏽♂️
So the writers were talented and funny, she was funny or aware that the material wasn’t … but the show wasn’t funny ? At some point asume responsibility for something on the show… something at all
@@rizamelendez9820 the show was unfunny from the first episode so I don't know how the writers got burnt out that quickly. First 5-10 episodes, sure, considering it's in the span of 2-3 days. But first episode? You can make the argument that the first episode isn't always gonna be the best, but first 5 episodes were horrible and the episodes got worse from then on. You can't say the writers and host were funny when the show was trashy to begin with
It’s not a very hard concept. Plenty of talented folks buckle under pressure and end up putting out a shitty product. Happens all the time across tons of industries.
that's the hardest part about leading any project. there are things you do where you grin and bear it. you are fully aware of the shit show that may follow but it's your duty to experience it and see it thru. love Lilly's content, and happy to see her on here!
She didn't have control over everything. In fact, she clearly didn't have much control at all, but she was already in too deep. She was given a huge opportunity and understandably took it. She was set up to fail. I'm not exactly expecting an apology from her, she didn't really do anything wrong. I can't imagine anyone expecting an apology from her when the only bad thing she did was host a crappy show that had a low budget and was understaffed (the low budget and understaffing being out of her control, of course). She didn't really blame anyone either. She didn't blame the writers, or the producer, or anyone in particular. What do you mean she's blaming everyone but herself?
What about her channel? In it's prime it was one of the hugest on the UA-cam platform. She was doing well with her own stuff when it was her priority years ago.
@@annamay731it was more about timing than anything. She started in 2010 when the platform was still in its infant stages and was able to capitalize on it. Good for her. But there's a reason her prime time ended around 2014.
How is that hard to understand? You can be a very talented artist, but when you have to pump out three paintings everyday, they’re bound to suck eventually
Take Colbert's show. He has writers on staff that get maybe one joke in per show on average, meaning that writer's stuff was good enough to get him in the door, but, for the first year or so, gets minimal screen time. These freshman writers are good, but are barely used more than senior writers to bounce their jokes off of for Colbert to use. They get seasoned or sacked over time. You have half the writers? You gotta hope they're all senior quality with very few gaps.
@@books2438have you ever heard her show it sounds like she doesn’t even have writers tbh. For something to drop in quality it has to have quality to begin with
I call bs. Just like Mia Khalifa and her sob story. Turns out that when they see things aren't working in their favor and/or that nobody is on their side anymore, they try to play victim and shift the blame on to others. It's always what someone else did, and not what THEY did. There's no accountability whatsoever
Not the comments not understanding what shes distinctly understanding. Doesnt matter if you didnt like her original content either. The show wasnt the same as when she was writing her own stuff either.😊
@lucky4d725 She said she knew it wasn't funny. Use your brain listen again to what she said. Her explaining why it wasn't good doesn't erase the fact that it wasn't good.
@@caitthecat noone said it "erases the fact that it wasn't good". Instead of coping what I said maybe spend more attention to what was actually being said in the video.
Yeah people don't understand that writers/artists/actors/performers/etc can't do their best work if they're not being paid enough or the conditions aren't good. It's incredibly idealistic to believe that people in these types of careers can do well in any circumstances. Creativity comes from a healthy brain, and stress, fatigue, burnout, etc will kill that creativity. There has to be an external and internal environment where creativity can be nurtured and grown. You can't plant saplings in crappy soil and then give it a cup of water and expect it to flourish.
This just sounds like an excuse. 1 talented writer can make that show, a whole team of them failed. They were not funny, its okay to accept defeat and failure. Being half the size makes no difference at all.
Right, that’s where she lost me. She said they were so funny and talented. But then regardless of the size of her team. Her stuff still should have been funny.
She’s literally saying in the video it was the working conditions. Understandable if you’re given half the resources of a good show you end up with a show only halfway to being good.
It’s so annoying how people in shorts comments act like what they see in a 30 second clip is the full context. Not even a full minute later she explains exactly why it wasn’t the writers fault, they were spread way too thin and overworked. Not complicated to figure out.
the amount of hatred lilly got for the “crime” of telling jokes that weren’t funny is insane. there are sooooo many male comedians that not only aren’t funny, but also write their own shit and STILL aren’t funny that have never gotten this amount of hate. idc what anyone says, it’s BECAUSE she’s a woc that she got so much disproportionate hate. add on to that that she was openly talking about the fact that she’s a lgbt woc, her section was basically a goldmine for the closet racists and misogynists
no offense, but it only takes ONE writer to write good material. Sorry, but i don't think the amount of writers in the room would've saved bad material. The writers you DID have obviously couldn't write funny material, so her point about them not being bad makes no sense. Is their work funny and well written or not? 😅
If your writers are good,. They won’t need a huge writing room. Lilys problems is that she is a UA-cam comedian, not a late night host… she aimed too high and too far out of her range and suffered because of it
That killed her show more than anything, not her. She went with it. She should have refused to do 90 shows in like 2 months. It was her fault for accepting it.
Dave Chapelle has one writer for jokes whenever he steps on stage. Him. He is him. If you're a comedian and you're saying you're not funny because your writing team is smaller than other non-funny people, then it's safe to say you're not a comedian
My only issue is she’s gone other interviews and complained for a completely different reason. I believe on one she said she did write the jokes with them but the team only had a month or so to write an entire season. Now she’s saying she had writers that predominantly wrote the jokes but just not enough with no specified time frame. Idk sounds like the show did bad and now she’s on damage control.
The truth is, Lilly was barely funny on her own. She coasted off her audience being 12 and never really evolved past that. Her writers were never the problem, she simply always had low standards for her comedy.
watch the full vid here: ua-cam.com/video/S5c1gOMnXOo/v-deo.html
The link don’t work
@@rockyrivergardens2650that's because yt disabled links on comments
@@_desibees1876wtf when did they do that??
@@rhettmitchella couple weeks ago. I personally wanna know why they would do that when the person posting the link is the video's creator. it hurts shorts creators who are trying to get more longform video engagement
they should've just disabled links that go to sites outside of UA-cam.
@@rhettmitchell2 months ago
Must be so stressful walking on stage knowing something isn’t funny omg
Omg she could've just stopped. She did it for MONEY & FAME, yet she's the type like AOC that would show up saying Eat the Rich knowing damn we she IS the rich benefiting off capitalism like everyone else
I know 😰 that's like me and my popsicle stick jokes but worse bc I'd at least get pity laughs.
@@jclyntoledoi wanna hear those popsicle stick jokes now
@@swain-Ix1tvsame
@@jclyntoledo we're waiting👀
For those of you who don’t understand she’s saying the working conditions were not great. It sounds like her writers team had half the resources of writers teams at a similar scale on tv. That’s bound to be an ineffective workplace.
But the working conditions really shouldn’t have an effect on your writing.. like she said herself that they were really talented and funny.. so they should be able to come up with good stuff even if it’s just with a piece of paper and pencil in a dungeon..
@@whoville1064nah, u have never worked before lmaoooo
@@whoville1064”working conditions shouldn’t have an effect on your writing” - what? You’re telling me, that when you’re stressed, in less than ideal conditions, and overworked - you still put out your best work? You, week after week, can put out 100% when your working conditions don’t support that???
Revisit this mindset once you’re not a child - work output is directly related to working conditions.
@@whoville1064time alone would be a huge challenge. I think you may be romanticizing creative work a bit here.
@@giannidescalzo2101 “romanticizing” 💀 do you know wtf that word means? How is saying that a good crew should be able to do their job if they’re so good at it like she says they are romanticizing anything?
Thats why traditionally hosts have a writing background, a stand-up background, or an improv background. Conan was more hilarious during the writers strike, when he was doing almost everything unscripted, or loosely scripted.
Yup! Conan O Brien also wrote for the Simpsons and SNL before he had his own show, he is also great and doing improv and actually excels with this type of content. After seeing “Conan without borders” I’m convinced that traveling while interviewing people is his best type of content.
considering all this, lilly did an amazing job then for someone without all that background. she still carried a whole late night show for however long she did... everyone is humiliating her. i don't know how much of it can be called a set up for her to not succeed though. because she was a beginner and first person of her league to do this, it's like she kinda had a huge burden to carry and make work for her and it was all on her. for someone starting, they gave her something small, i don't think that's unfair but i also can't speak to it because idk sh!t about the industry and don't know what it's like. what if every host needs a bigger room from the jump in order to succeed. what if it's compulsory and determines the trajectory of success.
Yes!!
Yeah this is a lame excuse. Also when has quantity of writers ever been what makes a joke? It’s always been about quality.
@@esen9maybe someone of her league (internet skit background) shouldn’t do shows where being witty really matters.
The jokes on her late night show are exactly the same jokes she uses online. Smells like bullshit to me
Wdym by online?
She prolly got writers for her youtube to
@@starlightgirl8863he means her UA-cam channel
She's always been bad, still can't understand what people saw in her beyond consistency ? She was consistent and hard working but never talented comedically
She's the most unfunny comedian I ever heard
I LOVE her for admitting this. Used to eat up her content and couldn’t stand it when she was getting shit on. But admittedly didn’t like the content either. What a legend for being candid
I miss her vlogs ngl 😢
@@madalena4145I miss her vlogs too. It’s really kind of sad. I think she was set up to fail and it’s really to bad because I think she really tried.
The conspiracy theorist part of me was that network exec levels could easily make an example out of her to keep new talent out (play into the assumption women or minorities aren't funny), especially if it threatens the ratings or writing pool for other projects. I used to hate Lily simply because of the few clips from her show but I understand her a bit more now.
Why did she attack those who criticized the show for being unfunny instead of being candid?
probably because she was trying to keep her show alive even if she didn't like it bc it was a stable income for her and the whole crew. also probably bc the issues were ones she was aware of and couldn't fix due to resources/execs. she was pissed because they were right and she knew it but couldn't do anything. that's my guess.@@bq2833
I’m just glad she knows it’s bad lmao
It feels good knowing that she wasn’t putting out terrible content on purpose. She was just powering through and i respect it
Same.
@@kaskaskasno it’s pretty much the exact definition of putting out terrible content on purpose…. If she knew it was terrible then she put it out on purpose lmao
@@kaskaskasshe was still getting money
@@NOISEEROOMGotta put food on the table. I would do it too for a check wdym.
If you say so, Lilly! You were a director and executive producer on the show. Take some credit.
She's talking about the writing. She didn't contribute to that part.
I don’t think directors have a say in writing, they do have a say in what they say (as she pointed out) but all movie directors and producers have screen writers
Neither of those positions make writing decisions.
@@PotinthepocketShe's a narcissist & is blaming others for her failures. She is so obsessed with herself ugh
And since she was director, shouldn't she have had SOME influence over the writing? She's not helpless. Her improv, what little there was of it, was pretty bad too
plot twist: lily was the writer 😂
Comments trying to defend her when it’s obvious she’s doing damage control by shifting blame 😂😂
Ppl saying that her writers need to give her better jokes haven't seen her yt videos from 2013-2014 (they are not as bad as her late night show but still pretty unfunny)
💀💀💀🤣
@@BananasPogoshe isnt even blaming anyone u must be sped😭 she clearly said her writers r talented be so fucking fr and what comments r u talking bout lol u just clearly hate her sm its idiotic she admitted to her jokes being unfunny yall still wanna jump her😭😭🙏
LITERALLY 😂😂most of those were hers 1000%
This actually feels so sad after watching all those videos completely tearing her apart
No you shouldn't feel bad. She is just not good at what she tried to do, but her ego prevents her from admitting failure so she just makes excuses for it.
@@badwolf3618someone needs to watch the whole video and not just this one clip
@@badwolf3618lol she just admitted to some failure
@@badwolf3618womp womp womp
@DanielSmith-nf3lv what she saying makes sense if you consider she was funny enough to grow as the top subbed woman of her time. But not any of her fans could actually say her show was fun.
drew gooden had a great vid explaining how they failed her
Yooo you're a Greg?
@@fellowhuman7085That's the fandom name of Danny Gonzalez. Does Drew have the Greg too?
@@c.lineofficial Nah, he calls his audience "Guy," but this could be a joke because there's a very long running joke that Danny & Drew are the same person.
Yes I love his video on her
@@addiepage2214 ohhhh that's cool 😎
Ain't no way - this is damage control 100%.
Yeah, I mean, if the stuff isn’t funny…write funnier stuff. Or lower your salary in order to hire more writers.
There’s a saying in golf: “Play better golf.”
It’s amazing how many problems it solves.
or maybe she's just being honest
@@TPRM1it's amazing how clearly you don't understand tv production pipelines
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@@ltbqand you do? Yea your understanding is radiating through the chat 🤡🤡🤡
"My writers were so funny but it wasn't funny"
That makes 0 sense
Exactly, her team of writers were trash
comedy usually takes a really long time to write, plus it goes under review from loads of different ppl, if you’ve got half the ppl and half the time, material just ain’t got time to be refined
@@leeartedwardsrefined is different from not ever funny at all
@@justsomename-ct1mb well yh, but think about a funny situation you were in, something that you still laugh about today. have you ever tried telling someone a funny story but it doesn’t sound funny when you recount it and they don’t get it? chances are that story is funny, you just haven’t told it right, good comedy writers refine and test and refine again until they got everybody laughing. it’s the same with all jokes, they take work.
problem is, if you and the idk like 3 other ppl are given a couple days to write a whole comedy set, you might put shit in that’s only kinda funny or hasn’t been written properly to be the funniest it can be, then if you don’t have the time to work on it, it’s gonna come out pretty bad
now you can find lily singh not funny, that’s alright, comedy is the most subjective art form, but do remember it’s an art that takes a lot of time and work
@@leeartedwards again. There’s a difference between kind of funny and not funny at all. What she was describing sounds bad, terrible in fact. But that’s a quality issue not a quantity. It only takes ONE funny person to write ONE funny joke. So if she had a room full of supposedly funny writers how come there wasn’t a single funny joke. Consistently.
And as for that example, that’s different from writing. One is and the other is preparing something funny with a prompt, both are extremely easy IF your funny. Actually funny. I think a lot of the issue comes from that word being thrown around too much.
I could understand if most of the jokes were bad. Or if some of them fell flat. Or if it felt rushed or whatever. But all of that is different than having a bunch of people (no matter how many) turn in jokes that are ALL terrible. It’s impossible to have multiple “writers” together (no matter how many more people they may need ideally” and not come out with a single, just one, funny thing.
Just so people know in the vid she says that her writers room was half the size and due to a lower budget, while other shows were filming one episode a day they had to do 3 within the span of 96(or something) leading everyone to be VERY burnt out.
96 hours? That’s not even once a day
@@spelcheak **they had to film three a day for a span of 96 days**
@@juphil1645 I don't recall her show having 300 episodes.....
@@KS-xk2so look I’m just saying what she said. Or at least what I think she said it’s been a couple days since I watched the video. If you’d like you can watch it yourself.
@@KS-xk2soyou have weekends. Plus, not all of the episodes were released. There was a UA-camr who went to the live shows and she said that she went to 3 shows and none of them had aired. She wanted to compare the live event with the edited one to critique on it and according to her, they did not air.
Were they the ones who included the "bisexual woman of color" comment every.single.time?
deadass probably
im a POC and i couldnt sit through a single episode. the entire show from start to finish is
WHITE MEN = BAD
IM RICH, YOU'RE POOR LMAO
she had every opportunity to change it at any time it was her fkn show. she just couldnt handle the backlash she didnt plan on getting. because what humour is easier in 2023 than slandering the entire white race? be honest
When you have less writers, you have to re-use lines to save time.
@@DanielOrteez
How many writers does it take to polish a turd?
@@Xbalanque84sounds like they were crunched, which leads to many turds getting polished
Lack of accountability, got it.
Working conditions affect your output
You should hold yourself accountable for not using your brain
@@WaffleSaladlmao, you think Lilly is the only person who has ever been under any kind of pressure in Hollywood. Craig Ferguson had 4 writers compared to 7 for Lilly, yet he was funny and insightful every day.
Right like she could just write her own jokes 😂
@@aolson1111 they had to do 3x the work of the other late night shows with a smaller crew. They shot three episodes a day instead of other comedians that do one a day. Plus she had to film them all in advance (that means no jokes about current news/topics bc they would no longer be relevant and funny)
Look at her trying to flip the script after being roasted 😂
It really is sad that she's trying to find excuses for HER show that ended up being super bad lol. Poor Lily
the industry took advantage of lily so awfully they changed her entire content to fit a certain demographic that most of her recurring viewers known her for. her content was super fresh & funny & original not seen on here before by a poc woman! sad to see they milked her work like that but she’s always been a creative mind & funny asf 😂 EDIT: stay MAD
She's not a victim. She profited off the same structures she's complaining about.
@@RoseGoldPDXand if I recall she doubled down on the white/men jokes hard and helped exclude certain demographics from her audience, instead of naturally attracting those who would enjoy her content.
You sound like she was forced to do as a slave
Uh, no. She’s definitely not some sort of victim in this. Self awareness is important and she could have just said no. She could have realized that her style was more suited for skits and kids and also, she was making so much money on UA-cam. She got greedy and power hungry and wanted to move up in the world as she saw it. She was doing amazing on UA-cam. She’s just not funny in interviews and as a stand alone comedian. The people who are funny in that way don’t need writers. Ever watch your favorite comedians in interviews? No writing, just talking off the cuff and they’re hilarious. Those comedians may not be suited to doing great on UA-cam. Like Bill Burr. He’s one of my favorites, funny on stage and as a comedian but his UA-cam channel doesn’t do great. You have to know HOW you’re funny and stick with it. I don’t hate her or anything, I used to really love her skits, but she just isn’t funny in the talk show kinda way. There’s nothing wrong with that. She has plenty of talent, but it doesn’t translate to that type of comedy. No amount of writers could’ve fixed that. You need great timing, charisma, and other intangibles to be funny in the way she was trying to be.
I don't remember a time she was funny 😅
Shrinking writers rooms are why we strike! ✊
we?
@@RJIS people who work in film and tv
@@surreal-wandererit seems it doesn't need more, but better writers. You guys put out so much garbage, it's just sad.
The solution is easy. Put out less stuff and and hire talented people for it and the rest go, since it's obviously not their thing.
But no we're not doing that. People fail and get promoted for it. Get jobs to fill a quota and not because they're actually qualified to do it good.
So yeah, go strike. It won't improve quality. It's just for untalented people, that shouldn't work there in the first place, to keep their job and put out more shit into the world. That is the reality of things.
@@spane81alright slow your roll arthur fleck, no need to post your whole manifesto on a public forum like this
@@mailtears oh no, were these few words allready too much for you to handle? You poor soul. I know reading is hard. Here have a few more.
Or did you just don't like what i had to say?
Either way it doesn't matter. We still get garbage movies from talentless writers. Hollywoods relevance dwindles as people have cought on.
She’s not seriously trying to convince us that her being a shitty comedian and host wasn’t her fault?
She’s been making UA-cam videos since like 2012 before she became an official comedian, and she actually used to be pretty funny. Yeah people change, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t her fault.
Maybe not ALL her fault.
yep
@@sphinxcat01to her child audience maybe
@@sphinxcat01she wasn't funny at all
She's a Legend in Her Own Mind...🤔🤦♂️
loved watching her youtube videos as a kid
She's so cringe lol. I cant see how anyone could like her jokes. It's basically a political show made with comedy instead of a comedy show that talks about politics
which proves shes not funny. kids enjoy her content.
@@tykeboy16 one person proves that? a little dramatic.
@@tykeboy16UA-cam has changed, people get nostalgic. The stuff I enjoyed as a kid I still find funny now, what is the point of this comment?
@@gingerisevil02 my point is her content was never good. It was hacky and corny af. Her fans were children. She didn't deserve a late night show.
I admire her for admitting this, but she kept saying that people criticizing the writing of her show were haters and would talk about how successful she was compared to everyone talking about her show.
It’s still a pretty big deal. Plus, people can learn and grow. She def had an ego back then and I stopped watching her completely, but a lot of people were hating on her back then for the stupid things too.
I personally think she wasn’t allowed to say any of this, because she probably had a contact with the network, so she wasn’t allowed to say that what she was saying wasn’t funny, and she also was like probably embarrassed and just wanted to protect herself because she was upset that she had to say thisbstuff and pretend that it was funny when she didn’t think it was funny
Did you expect her to bury her own product while it was airing
For real. Seems a lot of commenters conveniently forgot this detail.
@@connor1586 She could have said... nothing.
You know...sometimes it's not the joke...it's the delivery. 😅
Are you saying the jokes were funny or just commenting this out of bad faith?
Or the person
Anyone else just not believe her? If she truly thought it wasn’t good she wouldn’t deliver it like you thought it was
Ummm yes she would. That is literally what you are supposed to do? Lol
it’s called signing a contract 🥴
@@jammzy2959 signing a contract doesnt mean you have to pretend what isnt good is good.
@@joelp23she is the first UA-camr realistically to have had her own late night talk show, unfortunately that definitely doesn’t hold up in mainstream Hollywood it seems.
@@joelp23 Lmao how old are you? Ever heard of a little thing called being professional? Start working kiddo and then you will understand that there are plenty of things at work you dont agree with but you have to put on a smile and do it anyway. Its called life.
But the way she handled that criticism was horrible...and she said the critics were virgins, like that's somehow an insult? She was also virgin for a long time? Hypocrisy.
Did she make a video or something declaring that she isn’t a virgin anymore? I honestly wouldn’t put that past her.
@@katjen2213Doesn't matter, also the comment said WAS one
This honest statement is at odds with your Ted talk
Well in both all she’s saying is “ I’m the victim feel bad for me none of my shitty decisions are my fault” so kinda the same
Maybe the writing team for the TED talk was also too small.
@@lexluthor4597funny part, as comedy has repeatedly shown: take accountability for the crappy project and people will laugh WITH YOU at the past.
😂😂😂
@@MrColdwilliamexcept the crappy project is THEIRS to take accountability for - that’s not the same scripted tv. Idk where people get this magnifying glass to see victimhood charade on other people at any place where they are processing justification.
that’s not an excuse, if Smosh could write funny videos back when it was just the 2 of them then her “FUNNY” writers could also work with what they have as well, she says they were really funny so how are they writing crap jokes?
Alr yapster
@@r1r1_1.he’s not really yapping tho
@@zenthous9568 well yeah but some people are just ignoring the fact that she doesn't even have a proper comedic background or smth
@@r1r1_1. that doesn’t really justify anything. If you don’t have a comedic background why try to make a comedic show, and anyway this comment was about the writers
@@zenthous9568 probably cause she thought the show would go alright and won't be as bad as it is rn and she probably doesn't have funny writers either idk why she said that cause if they were the jokes would've been funny too I don't think she had the proper resources for this too she just started it cause she was getting famous cause of her relatable youtube videos and thought the show can't go that wrong but here we r now
Um, that is not very relatable: I could not make a 5 minut stand up set on late night funny because only 10 people wrote for me...
Stop stop stop. I worked for a super successful LATE NIGHT talk show and she absolutely chooses her jokes every day, and to pander, “not blaming the writers”? I saw her writers group, the show I worked for had the same size room. The writers pour over media every day looking for content, and they’re constantly searching for material, they make a ton of recommendations in the morning and she goes through and picks and chooses what she wants. Then they polish and she contributes. I call BS
Why doesn’t this have more likes?!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
cause they could clearly be making shit up lmao@@oliviah.5846
Oop- 👀
How would you know what her shows dynamic is like?
you're talking about one episode per day, but she recorded three
Lilly, they are LITERALLY the same exact "jokes" youve always said, and still do.....Like LITERALLY.
Did those writers also write your personal Ted Talk?
shhhh don't make logical observations. Her fans are here to praise how humble she is for admitting this.
shhhh don't make logical observations. Her fans are here to praise how humble she is for admitting this.
@@tykeboy16😂
@@tykeboy16
Some people will simp for anything, apparently. I wonder how many are bots?
@@tykeboy16😂
She's just making excuses and saying she knows that it was bad now to try and help her public image.
Because it wasn't even the quality of the jokes that was the main problem; it was the whole condescending, divisive *style* of comedy that she's not going to convince me that she herself didn't choose to do.
Oh she absolutely thought it would be a hit with other queer poc
She capping so hard bruh 😂
Yeah mf u reporting live from her house to give this info
Going to call bulshit on that. I remember a few years ago when her talk show came out and people were talking about how bad it was, obviously there were people just being Trolls but there was a lot of people giving constructive criticism and all she ever did was talk about how successful she was and how funny she was. What I think happened was that she went from making content for children that was relatively easy to make, to making content for adults which proved to be out of her field of depth.
She wasn't the one writing her show and on contracts you have to promote your show and you can't talk shit about it, sometimes ever if you sign an NDA. Also how embarrassing to have to admit you know your show you dreamed of was shit.
TYYYY looking for this, she is back tracking LMAO
@@lexgrey8103 Honest people don’t put themselves in situations where they’re forced to be dishonest.
Was she supposed to talk negatively about a project she’s the face of? That’s not a good look either.
I do think she should’ve ignored the hate or be more chill about it. It would’ve made her look a little more confident
@@gracekang2161 i agree with ur sentiment but she’s blaming everyone around her instead, so honestly the show STILL looks bad but now it’s even more off putting since she’s just separating herself from them even tho they were supposed to symbolize a team. it’s embarrassing to throw them under the bus
What a lot of people forget is, her delivery wasn't helping either. The thing is, if you gave Kristen Wiig, Sarah Paulson, Jessica Kirson or Kate Mckinnon a show, they would've become the next THING. Lilly was never that funny to begin with, and there's nothing wrong with that, we all suck at something. All it takes is time and practice, but she doesn't think she needs it, she's a know-it-all
That's what gets me. There are lots of women who could have done a good job, why did they hire her?
Dude but she has never been funny if her own accord either
lmao i love the idea that she thinks her show would have been successful if she had twice as many writers
I thought that too. . .Saying there weren't as many writers and THAT was the problem--not even that the writers were bad is such an empty excuse.
For real. How many writers does it take to polish a turd?
So happy seeing Anthony featured on his own channel 😊
What do you mean
So nice of Anthony to feature smaller creators like AnthonyPadilla on his channel... ❤
@@zhubwatLMAO
When she was confronted about the show being bad in the past, I remember her getting very defensive and claiming people didn’t like it because they’re discriminating against her race, sexuality, and gender. She said some pretty nasty things about people critiquing her. Why is she now willing to admit she knew it was bad? Is she going to apologize for her previous comments?
because she was not mentally well. We're talking about a human here not a robot.
@@PregnantWAwkwardness Very good excuse, works for everything 😂
@@Pidatha It does but if people actually watched the video and listened to her explain the process and her own views leading up to some of the responses you would understand that truly was the case. She had been set up to fail. And when she realized her ship was sinking, she still had to step out wearing a big smile. There was no way she could have been able to walk away not feeling some type of way about a failed show.
Add on some critical and rude comments and of course she would snap.
Cause even though the show may have flopped that was a test of a mettle for her, and some could argue she passed(mettle-wise).
But she didn't pass the aftermath, she couldn’t handle the comments which shitted on her unseen efforts, and resolve, let's not forget she was kinda set up to fail. Of course it felt personal. Of course she personally felt attacked.
If anything this is another reason why when you get to a certain level you should have a team that keeps you off the internet because when you start a downward spiral there's no taking it back.
Lilly acknowledged that some channels critiquing her were spot on BUT there were some who were straight up rude and not at all understanding. So why would they deserve an apology?
You can't hold Lilly to one standard and then not hold the rude ass Channels to the same standard. Let's not pretend people weren't rude af to her and that channels dragging her didn't exist.
oh shut up @@PregnantWAwkwardness
Aren’t you a human? Defending something you invested so much time blood sweat and tears should not be a foreign concept if you’ve ever lived or gone outside
Hold on so the writers are funny but since there were not a lot of them, it’s not funny? I don’t get it. I mean the more the merrier and more people can check other people ideas and work but how can they be funny but the idea not be funny?
Your show, your name, your choices. Still choose to do it, you bear the burden of its mark
Good thing she explained the situation even though at the moment she was calling the criticism as "virgin haters" -_-
I think the point of this is that she was wrong
Do you have something against virgins? Do you think they are lesser than you?
@@Jays_dead_cat Not at all, Lily however, said it with the intention of insulting
@@valerymerenguetta8874 I completely misread your comment. Lol. My bad
@@Jays_dead_cat no worries
"Blame everyone but yourself"
This segment was also written for her.
Excuses goes brrrr
My writers were very funny but the jokes they wrote were not funny at all…………huh?
Shes ducking responsibilty and trying to paint herself as some kind of martyr at the same time. Its just pure narcissism.
yea but they were not given the time or resources to not be burnt out. watch the whole vid
They were being funny, but I don’t think that they were able to bounce ideas off each other as much considering she said that the writers room is a lot smaller and they probably have bus time so you can be funny but then end up not writing a funny script
funny people can still have bad jokes. some things work, some don't and sometimes you just misread the tone. doesn't help if you're tired, stressed and have a low budget.
Ik this isn’t true cause she was making content exactly like her show on her UA-cam you can get away with being unfunny on UA-cam not on television
People should go watch the first 8 minutes of the full video. This clip comes up along with context that’s edited out of the short. She did not just have half the writers. She had half the writers, pumping out THREE episodes a day. Other late night shows record one per weekday, and they do it day of. Her schedule was to pre record all 90 episodes back to back, which also implies she can’t be commenting on daily happenings the way late night shows usually do.
The only reason for all this was to accommodate her own already packed schedule. Her rep negotiated this pace, hoping Lilly could just show up & perform instead of WORKING on her own show at all. She should have been honest about not having time when NBC approached but it’s all about ego. The money & opportunity was too good to pass up I guess…
Pre recording a season's worth of late-night content for a talk show makes no sense.
whole comedy movies have been written by two people and are hilarious and stand the test of time. if you cant make something funny with 1 writer you will never make it funny with a group of people no matter how big that room gets.
Sounds like damage control to me. It's not just her show that was unfunny. She did it for a paycheck because she wasn't bothered about making UA-cam content at the time. Pitching a late night comedy show for a zoomer audience when the format was dieing for 5 years prior was just a horrible business decision by management anyway
she mentioned in the full video, if you watch it, that the contract they had was for 96 episodes in 3 months. she went into it fully intending to make youtube videos at the same time, but soon realised that wasn't possible. Also, of course she did it for the paycheck. Most of us work for a paycheck. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't even bother getting out of bed most days
But she already had a paycheck for the work she was doing and a decent paycheck at that. However, she let greed win and chased a bigger paycheck for what she deemed as less work, and it has rightfully ruined her reputation, which granted not hard but still.
No matter how you slice it she was well off and didn't need more money yet she chased it anyway.
@@Not_An_EV " as less work"? 96 episodes in 3 months was gonna be less work? i really suggest you watch the full episode. she seems like a hardworking person and it seemed more about the challenge of doing something new. it's really worthy of respect. also, i don't think she should regret it because it failed, as she herself put it in the full video, it accomplished other things. also, there's nothing wrong with chasing more money. again, we all do it. quitting a job to go to a better paying one is incredibly common, and it's called career growth.
it was a good opportunity n tbh i don’t think her reputations been ruined. the jokes there were just cringier versions of what she was already doing on youtube, she was just given a different platform. though i can understand your point about greed (and somewhat agree with it, there’s an inherent greediness to these sorts of things)i think she was also trying to cement herself into a different industry. multiple things can exist at once !!
Exactly. She got the bag. She got the “fame” (just not the way she wanted), she couldn’t lead the show in a good direction so didn’t get more resources. All while she got paid the most out of anyone on the show and walked away with the bank. Now she gets to sit here and take zero responsibility and claim she herself is a victim. Give me a break. If that’s a victim, sign me up.
Ok. Less people means less resources, I get that. But those fewer people can still be funny and good at what they do, no? Less people would explain inconsistency in quality to fill out the airtime, but not always missing the mark. If you or your people are good at their format it has to hit sometimes, right? To me, the honest impression is that: 1. UA-cam Humor does not really translate on TV, which is fine. 2. The established format of the rigid Night Talk Show was just not a good fit for her or any female UA-camr, as pointed out by people like Brittany Broski. 3. People trying to write for you and dilute your appeal in the process, by just trying to imitate something you might say, is always bad. Honestly it is a tale as old as time by now, as to why a lot of UA-camrs ditched trying to do TV and stuff: They dont want YOU as a person, they want your AVATAR to bring in a new audience, but you are forced to still project their same old content/format. Which is a recipe for disaster, because UA-cam Personalities get famous FOR their personality, it is in the name. If they limit your selfexpression which got you so far in the first place you will tank, because your fans recognize it is not really you and the rest of the audience does not know what to make of you.
If 1 person has to do the work of 2 people, it's always gonna be worse. Everything has to be less good, in order for it to all be done at the end of the day.
@@chiedzawith2ds While I somewhat agree, imo there is more to it. The disconnect between UA-camrs and TV people, be it writers, hosts etc. Something is not clicking, mainly the need for structure and strict monitoring that takes away what makes a UA-camr special in the first place. TV shows have a different, broader audience - so the nisché that got you famous on UA-cam is not sufficient enough to create mass-appealing content. And thats where writers start to think "Well, what COULD a/this UA-camr say, but also fit our show?" and it is downhill from there. You cant make the UA-camr a blank slate Avatar for the writers' talent to shine through, cuz why cast a UA-camr in the first place then? But you also cant make the UA-camr do all the work by themselves, because of the tight time schedule. So the in between solution always comes off as hollow and not genuine. So to me, them not being able to make her funny, is more about the format and disconnect, than people - otherwise something would have been good or promising...although understaffing obviously did not help
The producers half-assed the show. The writers were underpaid and overworked. Lily was very new to the talk show business. It's a miracle that the show went on as long as it did. It's true you can be funny with few people in the writing room, but what if those few people were under so much stress like she tells in the video? You cannot be comedic when you're stressed.
How can someone be funnt on an insane deadline?
This is a short clip. Full context is they had to write a lot of material in a short time which is why the quality degraded.
whole lotta copeium here. Lilly just is not a funny person to begin with.
Well , there's a red flag. "I didnt get the right setup. I wasn't given enough" , and so the apparatus is at fault , "NOT ME" . Didnt get a big enough team. Well Lily, your hosting was uncomfortable and painful to watch too, go find someone to blame for that now. She's so full of herself I swear
None of the other late night shows are funny either, it’s not a question of resources, it’s a question of being funny
Seth Meyers is hilarious. Same goes for Samantha B.
Lilly is also just not funny in general. Her jokes are about the same thing, over and over again
Conan O Brien is probably the funniest out of all of them actual writer there
@@Andyatl2002 exactly, that’s why Conan is at least somewhat funny. He’s an actual comedic writer.
All it should take is one good writer to deliver something that isn’t completely awful. This is nonsense
You saw that with the earlier writers' strike. Some shows continued to be funny without writers and some weren't (although the Daily Show relied heavily on Brit John Oliver and Canadians Samantha Bee and Jason Jones).
That’s literally what i just said. It should only take ONE funny person to make at least ONE funny joke. Let alone if everybody isn’t here was “funny”. Everybody throws that word around nowadays, everybody thinks they’re funny. But in reality people are just easy to entertain and the skill ceiling is lower if you’re an follower and an idiot. It makes being actually funny both more rewarding, and more annoying perceptively. 🤦🏽♂️
Welcome to life Lilly. Most adults do not like their 9-5 jobs, but still we do it with a smile on our faces.
If you can't do with less, you dont deserve it. That's when you prove what you're about.
So the writers were talented and funny, she was funny or aware that the material wasn’t … but the show wasn’t funny ?
At some point asume responsibility for something on the show… something at all
they have to shoot 3 episodes a day, everyday. Which leads to burning out and tired. There's a full interview of her if you wanna understand it more
@@rizamelendez9820 the show was unfunny from the first episode so I don't know how the writers got burnt out that quickly. First 5-10 episodes, sure, considering it's in the span of 2-3 days. But first episode?
You can make the argument that the first episode isn't always gonna be the best, but first 5 episodes were horrible and the episodes got worse from then on. You can't say the writers and host were funny when the show was trashy to begin with
It’s not a very hard concept. Plenty of talented folks buckle under pressure and end up putting out a shitty product. Happens all the time across tons of industries.
@@rizamelendez9820they didn't shiit 3 episodes a day lmao
@@gracekang2161not like this they don't just excuses for getting a show due to being an Indian woman representation isn't that important
lol girl please
I hate when creators claim to be so hands-on with stuff and when it goes wrong they conveniently have someone to blame
Yeah this a bunch of BS
When you're doing a tv show it isn't just you anymore, you know that right?
When is a talented comedian letting writers make it all up. She is so done.
@@PregnantWAwkwardnessshe literally stated from the jump she was hands on. She even helped pick her writers.
@@Michael-mt6yb no point in talking to me if you haven't seen the video.
Imagine you are someone who actually enjoyed that show, how dumb you must feel after hearing this
She's much more self aware than I thought
This just feels unaccountable and yuck. At least she’s consistent. Lol
She is just not funny.... that's just it
Lilly’s face is always smiling I love it ❤
that's the hardest part about leading any project. there are things you do where you grin and bear it. you are fully aware of the shit show that may follow but it's your duty to experience it and see it thru. love Lilly's content, and happy to see her on here!
She's still not taking responsability and blaming everyone but herself.
Youth is a good enough reason. Besides some truths are easier to tell with a little distance & maturity.
@@js8817 she's 35 tho?
She didn't have control over everything. In fact, she clearly didn't have much control at all, but she was already in too deep. She was given a huge opportunity and understandably took it. She was set up to fail.
I'm not exactly expecting an apology from her, she didn't really do anything wrong. I can't imagine anyone expecting an apology from her when the only bad thing she did was host a crappy show that had a low budget and was understaffed (the low budget and understaffing being out of her control, of course).
She didn't really blame anyone either. She didn't blame the writers, or the producer, or anyone in particular. What do you mean she's blaming everyone but herself?
@@ponk2072 I keep seeing comments saying the same thing. Honestly its just ignorance.
Exactly
So if the writers are good then it's just lily
So she blames everybody but herself? Sounds about right ✅️
She didn't know it, it flopped and now she is backtracking
it wasnt the size of the writers room it was 100% the quality
It was the Cluster-B in the room deciding everything.
She's coming back on UA-cam and im so glad! Miss her skits with Manjeet 😂
this really shows a different side of Lilly tbh
Hehe Cute-Escape 🤣
Thats the excuse for the show, but what about her own personal UA-cam channel?
What about her channel? In it's prime it was one of the hugest on the UA-cam platform. She was doing well with her own stuff when it was her priority years ago.
@@annamay731it was more about timing than anything. She started in 2010 when the platform was still in its infant stages and was able to capitalize on it. Good for her. But there's a reason her prime time ended around 2014.
Can someone explain to me how having a smaller room makes talented writers become talentless?
they have to shoot 3 episodes a day, everyday. Which leads to burning out and tired. There's a full interview of her if you wanna understand it more
How is that hard to understand? You can be a very talented artist, but when you have to pump out three paintings everyday, they’re bound to suck eventually
Take Colbert's show. He has writers on staff that get maybe one joke in per show on average, meaning that writer's stuff was good enough to get him in the door, but, for the first year or so, gets minimal screen time. These freshman writers are good, but are barely used more than senior writers to bounce their jokes off of for Colbert to use. They get seasoned or sacked over time.
You have half the writers? You gotta hope they're all senior quality with very few gaps.
@@books2438have you ever heard her show it sounds like she doesn’t even have writers tbh. For something to drop in quality it has to have quality to begin with
@@aidanh7527don't even bother. I'm now convinced that this "books" account is either a direct relative or Lily's burner account.
I call bs. Just like Mia Khalifa and her sob story. Turns out that when they see things aren't working in their favor and/or that nobody is on their side anymore, they try to play victim and shift the blame on to others. It's always what someone else did, and not what THEY did. There's no accountability whatsoever
Bruh boss she's on the apologies arc eh
Not the comments not understanding what shes distinctly understanding. Doesnt matter if you didnt like her original content either. The show wasnt the same as when she was writing her own stuff either.😊
Did this sound good in your head before you typed it out? If so, it should've stayed there.
She has the communication skill of Eylon Levy. 😂
Ofc she has to come up with this dumbass rhetoric to shift the blame on to someone else and as always it’s the system’s fault
my writers were extremely good but what they wrote was not funny
Not what she meant. Use your brain and listen again to what she said.
@lucky4d725 She said she knew it wasn't funny. Use your brain listen again to what she said. Her explaining why it wasn't good doesn't erase the fact that it wasn't good.
@@lucky4d725 i literally repeated what she said. she said they were GOOOOD but the content wasnt good.
@@vixygrayve but that's *not what she meant* .
@@caitthecat noone said it "erases the fact that it wasn't good". Instead of coping what I said maybe spend more attention to what was actually being said in the video.
Her infantile humor doesn’t translate well in a late night setting. That’s all.
To say you had less writers is still dissing the writers...
No? She’s saying the work conditions/resources weren’t good. They’d have to do double the work if it’s half the team.
Yeah people don't understand that writers/artists/actors/performers/etc can't do their best work if they're not being paid enough or the conditions aren't good. It's incredibly idealistic to believe that people in these types of careers can do well in any circumstances. Creativity comes from a healthy brain, and stress, fatigue, burnout, etc will kill that creativity. There has to be an external and internal environment where creativity can be nurtured and grown. You can't plant saplings in crappy soil and then give it a cup of water and expect it to flourish.
This just sounds like an excuse. 1 talented writer can make that show, a whole team of them failed. They were not funny, its okay to accept defeat and failure. Being half the size makes no difference at all.
Right, that’s where she lost me. She said they were so funny and talented. But then regardless of the size of her team. Her stuff still should have been funny.
Girl make it make sense who is responsible for the shit that really wasn’t funny????? YOUR WRITERS!!!!
She’s literally saying in the video it was the working conditions. Understandable if you’re given half the resources of a good show you end up with a show only halfway to being good.
It’s so annoying how people in shorts comments act like what they see in a 30 second clip is the full context. Not even a full minute later she explains exactly why it wasn’t the writers fault, they were spread way too thin and overworked. Not complicated to figure out.
@@OsmosisMapleyou clearly have never worked in a writers room.
I’d like to think you could put 2 & 2 together, but maybe not?
even the funniest person in the world
wouldnt be able to come up with 3 episodes worth of good jokes in 1 day. Working conditions matter
A bad workman blames his tools
At least she knew it wasn’t funny. Takes heart to realize when something aint working.
Sounds like bs to be honest
Sounds like excuses to me 🤷♂️
the amount of hatred lilly got for the “crime” of telling jokes that weren’t funny is insane. there are sooooo many male comedians that not only aren’t funny, but also write their own shit and STILL aren’t funny that have never gotten this amount of hate. idc what anyone says, it’s BECAUSE she’s a woc that she got so much disproportionate hate. add on to that that she was openly talking about the fact that she’s a lgbt woc, her section was basically a goldmine for the closet racists and misogynists
no offense, but it only takes ONE writer to write good material. Sorry, but i don't think the amount of writers in the room would've saved bad material. The writers you DID have obviously couldn't write funny material, so her point about them not being bad makes no sense. Is their work funny and well written or not? 😅
If your writers are good,. They won’t need a huge writing room. Lilys problems is that she is a UA-cam comedian, not a late night host… she aimed too high and too far out of her range and suffered because of it
Are you a drew gooden fan too
No but here’s the thing, if you watch her personal videos they aren’t really funny either so.
That killed her show more than anything, not her. She went with it. She should have refused to do 90 shows in like 2 months. It was her fault for accepting it.
Dave Chapelle has one writer for jokes whenever he steps on stage. Him. He is him. If you're a comedian and you're saying you're not funny because your writing team is smaller than other non-funny people, then it's safe to say you're not a comedian
My only issue is she’s gone other interviews and complained for a completely different reason. I believe on one she said she did write the jokes with them but the team only had a month or so to write an entire season. Now she’s saying she had writers that predominantly wrote the jokes but just not enough with no specified time frame. Idk sounds like the show did bad and now she’s on damage control.
The truth is, Lilly was barely funny on her own. She coasted off her audience being 12 and never really evolved past that. Her writers were never the problem, she simply always had low standards for her comedy.
for a person whose pfp is a groomer, i’m not surprised at this comment lol
@@miloshroom1 who is the pfp??
So write something funny yourself if you’re a comedian. Just one thing to prove you’re funny.
EVERYBODY else is to blame but her! 😂