Have I found my new Dawless Centerpiece? // MIDI Sequencing with Play 1.4

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  • @miamha
    @miamha Рік тому +16

    Literally bought this on Tuesday just there. Loads of fun, very inspiring, and that's not just my post-gas sunk cost fallacy talking 😅 it really is fun to just pick up and play.

  • @christopherhammell9904
    @christopherhammell9904 10 місяців тому +1

    Best video for Play. Just bought one because of this video.

  • @DylanParisMusic
    @DylanParisMusic Рік тому +3

    Thanks for this video Jorb! This is super helpful for wrapping my head around this device. Really curious to try the play plus, this helps me to get the “why” of the play vs other machines 🙏👏

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +2

      For sequencing hardware, the price drop makes the OG reeaally compelling.

  • @middaymeds
    @middaymeds Рік тому +34

    After months of using the Play in the same way, my biggest wish is that we could have random/chance CC values for every parameter; not just the filter.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +3

      Yyooooo great point

    • @indek
      @indek Рік тому +4

      I totally agree. Love using the chance CC value.

    • @aradder
      @aradder Рік тому +5

      Come to the Polyend Backstage and make a wish for it!

    • @soma6633
      @soma6633 Рік тому +2

      Hey, Is it possible that will be added in a software update?
      Plus, which machine does have it? (On velocity for example) Does the new Mpc One have it?

  • @BassFunMusic
    @BassFunMusic Рік тому +3

    Every new upload on your channel is like a surprise gift! Love it! 🎵❤

  • @MistyMusicStudio
    @MistyMusicStudio Рік тому +6

    Love to see Polyend supporting their machines and adding functionality even years later. Can’t wait til the tracker mini comes out, we’re so close! Thanks for the excellent demo 🙏

    • @morten1
      @morten1 Рік тому +2

      I was hooked on getting a Tracker Mini, because it's so portable.
      But.. it doesn't have much ability for jamming and playing on it. No musical keys/pads.
      So I need to connect an external midi keyboard?
      Then it loses the portable plus

    • @MistyMusicStudio
      @MistyMusicStudio Рік тому +3

      ​@@morten1 I agree the full sized Play would be better for jamming. I'm so in love with the synakt though, I don't really need another groovebox. I'll be using the tracker mini as a stable gameboy to write songs on while I'm at the dog park lol.

    • @AlchemicalAudio
      @AlchemicalAudio Рік тому

      @@morten1I have seen simple setups that just use an iPhone as the input source. Seems like a good option to keep things portable and battery powered.

  • @katelikesrectangles
    @katelikesrectangles Рік тому +2

    this is *exactly* the video i was hoping for, thank you so much! i'm excited about the 1.4 update! i have one of these, and a bunch of modular stuff that I want to control from midi, and what you're doing here is just what I got it for

  • @aradder
    @aradder Рік тому +4

    DAWless here for 3 years using Beatstep Pro and onboard sequencers for my various devices, but lacked a cohesiveness to the workflow. Since Play 1.2, I've been working toward picking one up as my master seq/drum machine so this video is perfect to get some ideas and moral support! Mitch and team are killing it on the updates and community building for this box. Glad he asked you to shoot this! BTW Quick Copy (hold > tap new pad) works for variations, you don't need to copy and paste the grid notes

  • @jeffryarchambeau5441
    @jeffryarchambeau5441 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm impressed with how you really let your hair down in this discussion.

    • @WillisZzz
      @WillisZzz 8 місяців тому

      You mean literally or figuratively? 😆

  • @WillisZzz
    @WillisZzz 8 місяців тому +1

    @19:21 "crazy stuff - remember I had drums?" 🤘😆 love this

  • @colinthornton5340
    @colinthornton5340 Рік тому +3

    A brilliant demo and track, many thanks

  • @sansmojo
    @sansmojo Рік тому +3

    I'm used to your scope in videos, but somehow never noticed that you started using the clamp and mirror sometimes. That's genius and hilarious.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +5

      Comes from not wanting to use a second or third camera if I can avoid it. Can keep it on the same focus plane with the mirrors

  • @kveg3995
    @kveg3995 Рік тому +3

    Classic Jorb. Back at it again with the gear.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +3

      Typical Jorb, here he goes again

    • @entropybentwhistle
      @entropybentwhistle Рік тому +1

      ⁠ _Little animated Polyend Play appears_ - “Hello! This is gear, and I love Jorb!”

  • @hut48
    @hut48 Рік тому +3

    Love that idea of a mixer view. I really wish there was an easy way to solo both tracks and midi at the same time

  • @stopmikeandjim3196
    @stopmikeandjim3196 Рік тому +1

    Always good to see referee Jorb with the bubble letter logo

  • @Dreadlabs
    @Dreadlabs Рік тому +2

    Hey, thanks for the insight! I've been meaning to use my Play like this for a while now and I finally bought a TIE Studio 4i4o to set my Play up with my Behringer Neutron and TD-3. The thing is, the midi splitter won't catch the Jack 2 outputs, only the Jack 1 output. Any chance you know what I'm doing wrong? I can't find the answer anywhere and your video is pretty much the only one that has almost the same setup as mine

  • @NathanChisholm041
    @NathanChisholm041 11 днів тому

    That's what I use mine for as the brains! I've got a Roland SH4D Hydra Explorer and a Micro freak it's a lot of fun.

  • @esmoroglu
    @esmoroglu Рік тому +1

    Beautifully practically enlightening video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @TheMainSilverSultan
    @TheMainSilverSultan Рік тому +1

    Nice clamp bro! ❤

  • @leftovernoise
    @leftovernoise Рік тому +4

    The fact that so many modern and expensive sequecers are maxed out at 64 to 128 steps is ridiculous. Jesus Christ why cant anything have a legitimate song mode. Which used to be quite common a few decades ago with much older technology.

    • @Farold_Haltermeyer
      @Farold_Haltermeyer 8 місяців тому +2

      Like stereo. That’s now apparently an upgrade. They take it away...then sell it back to us.

  • @svt4001
    @svt4001 Рік тому +3

    The mark of a great gear review is when the review convinces me I need something I had absolutely no need for before watching the review! Thanks Jorb! lol!

  • @Spriggan828
    @Spriggan828 Рік тому +1

    What a lovely piece, thanks again

  • @TannerByTheSea
    @TannerByTheSea Рік тому +5

    Yo Jorb! What’s good brother.. great video… But… Respectfully… I’m not sure if you needed two screens? The screen on the poly is pretty clear and precise… No👍🏼 great video bro.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +6

      I went back and forth, I try and think about what its like to watch it on a phone at low resolution, figure that's most people. Same thing when I've got blown up pedal cam

  • @anteeko
    @anteeko Рік тому +2

    Such a cool gear, so much fun to use:)

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit Рік тому +2

    Excellent video. Lots of great inspiration. Thank you!

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому +1

    Sounds so good dude

  • @deathisimminent9518
    @deathisimminent9518 Рік тому +1

    lovely, clean. the. keyboard.

  • @johncarter2741
    @johncarter2741 Рік тому +1

    Yup. Same here. Love it

  • @lodrezzon
    @lodrezzon Рік тому

    Great explanation. I just got my Poly Play last week, and after the obligatory ' what the fuck did I just waste my money on this time' response (during the first hour of learning), I now absolutely love it and need more grids to store more patterns.
    Because a billion is just not enough spaces...
    *Note: With all these amazing advancements in musical instrument technology, I just know that once all the tech know-how finally trickles down to robot girlfriend development, the world will be a wonderful place for single guys! That's how inspiring the Polyend Play is!

  • @maikvanrossum
    @maikvanrossum Рік тому

    Good and inspirational video, thanks for sharing! 🙏🏻 I’m using the Play OG together with my Digitakt (or if stereo sampling is needed my M+) so at this point I don’t feel the need to upgrade to the Play+ for its sampling capabilities. It would be nice if Polyend would expand all of their sequencers’ capabilities a bit more towards their unique role within a dawless setup. So for instance more in-depth control of sending and receiving Program Changes (at the start of a pattern or variation) without having to worry about polyphony. Or changing and renaming on-screen labels for CC knobs per pattern / variation. More MIDI effects or actions for manipulating sequences.

  • @DankePlace
    @DankePlace Рік тому

    I still have my Polyend SEQ, this just seems a much more powerful device but nothing beats 8 rows of 32 steps, will never sell it, BUT I will get the Play to use with it.
    Love both, but PLay is now my next toy.
    Thx for the upload, I'll send you the bill.

  • @lycosa2000
    @lycosa2000 Рік тому

    You say it's the Polyend play, but we all know it's the Yamaha CP. And before anyone laughs, I got to play with one a few days ago and that might be the most fun I've had with a keyboard in a while. Now I want the CP and the YC organ.

  • @UnitedPebbles
    @UnitedPebbles 6 місяців тому

    and ample room for incomp errors, not just ac dc, guitar mono conflict w the bit issues, but sound quality and the right working mixer

  • @djSouRay
    @djSouRay 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi. What is the oscilloscope round screen green thing u used in this video??

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  5 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/ghfMBVU_6tQ/v-deo.htmlsi=Cmptrh1JOupClnhJ just using a mirror to get it on camera

  • @Luigi64
    @Luigi64 Рік тому +2

    What happened to the reface cp keys???

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +1

      I had cheap masking tape to mark the like midi channel key combos

  • @earlsfield
    @earlsfield Рік тому +3

    I did the same thing. Problem is poliphony. I dont want to dial in chords, I want to be able to play them and record them via keyboard. Also, using PP as master MIDI sequencer is messy if you have a few Elektron boxes, bcs you need to send program change messages in order to change patterns, and on some there is slight latency. Also, no CV is a bit meh, given that Polyend did a lot for modular.

  • @caesarsheadache
    @caesarsheadache Рік тому

    Great demo Cheers 🥳🔥🤘

  • @AndrewDacey
    @AndrewDacey Рік тому +6

    The polyphony limitation was the big downside for me, I’ll have to look into that chord trigger option. I’d only seen that a chord would take up extra tracks like you mentioned.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +3

      It's not nearly as flexible, but that chord parameter can really save you some rows

  • @ritchxmusic
    @ritchxmusic 3 місяці тому +1

    Did you compare this to the Torso and Oxi one? Trying to decide between them

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  3 місяці тому

      havent spent enough time with either, but in my impressions of those its a little less immediate.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  3 місяці тому

      AND of course, this has its own sounds...huge difference

  • @lokologico
    @lokologico Рік тому +1

    does it record/playback MPE midi? lookng for a dawless setup and got my hands on an osmose....

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      Great question, I want to say it doesn't

    • @DankePlace
      @DankePlace Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear Pretty sure it doesn't Squarp Hapax is what you need,

  • @schweitzer515
    @schweitzer515 Рік тому +1

    button down goes craaaaaaazy

  • @johnjohnson1361
    @johnjohnson1361 Рік тому +1

    What DAW are you running this through please? Thanks mate brilliant video

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +2

      None! Multitrack into a tascam model 16, then the video is edited in davinci resolve

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому +1

    Yea dude! Fucking good!!

  • @Luap-ls3ix
    @Luap-ls3ix Рік тому

    I work in a wood shop and seeing that clamp holding the mirror gives me such ptsd 😂

  • @danielperkins7311
    @danielperkins7311 Рік тому +1

    Jorb, I'm in Virginia. I'll send you my Squarp Hapax for a week or so if you wanted to make a video on it and see how it compares to the Polyend Play. Lol.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      Offer appreciated, but if I decide to do it I'll ask Squarp for one

    • @danielperkins7311
      @danielperkins7311 Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear You got it! Watching you maneuver around the Polyend Play is actually teaching me some things about the Hapax. I've been a fan since day 1! Keep up the good work

  • @pjforde1978
    @pjforde1978 Рік тому

    Great video, I learned a lot! I have, up until this video at least, seen Play as a groovebox++ and the Oxi One as a sequencer. However, it really seems from here that with the 1.4 firmware, Play has become a moderately powerful MIDI sequencer. If you are someone who is not working with Eurorack modules, is there a reason to own an Oxi One when you could have a Play for roughly the same price? Is there a use case for having both? Seeing the ability to record CC automations really makes me see Play has matured and the role of Oxi One becomes far less clear.

  • @aether3569
    @aether3569 10 місяців тому

    Jorb how do you get your polyend play to connect with the east beast? I've tried to connect mine through midi and it never works

  • @RedCloudServices
    @RedCloudServices Рік тому

    is it possible to setup like a Turing track that is generative within a selected scale?

  • @AJOLDMUSI
    @AJOLDMUSI Рік тому +1

    Jorbs rad

  • @abberom1
    @abberom1 Рік тому +1

    You’d love the Deluge…

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      I had one for awhile and did love it!

    • @DankePlace
      @DankePlace Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear You love this more, Deluge has almost no screen, Play is just a more advanced system, and easy to use imo.
      It's my next buy, I think finally I will be able to sit down and make some better tunes due to UI.
      Akai Force is too convoluted, Play is all on the surface with minimal menu diving and such a small footprint.

  • @styvesgoupil
    @styvesgoupil Рік тому

    I love your content! Fun fact, my CC were enabled in UA-cam and the first 2 seconds of your video reads « Hello my name is George » 😂 Thx auto-caption lol

  • @andrewverdekel3388
    @andrewverdekel3388 Рік тому

    Help me out: where do the Golden Hat samples come from?

  • @AndrewTSq
    @AndrewTSq Рік тому +2

    I just want a hardware based Amiga ProTracker clone, with sampling and some effects, and I would be a happy man :)

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +1

      What's the eurorack nerdseq based on, is that the same?

  • @JohnMcSmith
    @JohnMcSmith Рік тому

    Anyone have thoughts on this vs the Deluge as the centerpiece?

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      I haven't used deluge in awhile, but the way you manipulate steps on this feels great to me.
      But I liked placing drums so much more on the deluge

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому +1

    U can power it with the usb hub :)

  • @MatthewScheffel
    @MatthewScheffel Рік тому

    Forgive me if you answered this; but can you sequence multiple MIDI devices, i.e.: via multiple "lanes"? Not sure if this is related to the polyphony limitations.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +2

      In a way, yes, that's how I'm in controlling in this video, but it's bigger than that.
      You can change midi channel per trig, just like example in the begining with the kick on any lane.
      I could have a 16 step sequence and send each trig to a different midi device

    • @MatthewScheffel
      @MatthewScheffel Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear gotcha!

  • @jukeboxfandango
    @jukeboxfandango Рік тому +1

    I'm actually a little disappointed in the Play. For Dawless I like to control instruments while also playing others on the Thru channel. The Play having no Thru channel means there's no transmission of footpedal CC, that kills me. I'm also a musician who thinks automatic "chord" and "scale" functions are at best a crutch and at worst cheating, so the Play not allowing you to input polyphony with a controller and instead making you use the internal chord bank is just bizarre and a little offensive. My main reasons for getting it were the 8 midi channels and the 128 pattern song potential (a MASSIVE improvement over the 16 pattern song limit on SQ64), so I'm still enjoying it for that, and there's still a LOT to explore.

  • @barrnycharlton8951
    @barrnycharlton8951 Рік тому +1

    nice shirt

  • @MrMarcLaflamme
    @MrMarcLaflamme Рік тому

    I wish the Digitakt had the Play/Skip for probability. So many times I wanted to make something play for 3/4 and on the 4th it didn't. Ooofff and that all note offset change... so nice! Something is confusing me a bit with the MIDI though. Are they monophonic? Did you need to eat up 4 tracks to play the Rhodes? I think I missed something. ah you mentioned that at the end conclusion. Very strange decision... +1 for the Digitakt 😛 haha

    • @WeiselFalso
      @WeiselFalso Рік тому

      the digitatk has play skip prob! it just has numbers like 2:4 or 1:3 per trig on the conditional options

  • @ciatangallaghe2485
    @ciatangallaghe2485 Рік тому +1

    Do I need a re 201...no. also is that the theme tune to Taxi?

  • @tonesmith6406
    @tonesmith6406 Рік тому +1

    Forgive me, but i am new to your channel. You said in the beginning that the Digitakt didn't work for you. I'm wondering how. I have a VERY similar workflow to what i'm watching you do here, but i do it with the Digi. I'm in no way trying to say one is better than the other, i think the Play is awesome. I'm just wondering what you didn't like. Other than the keyboard view, they essentially do the exact same things.
    Also, so far I think your content is great. I'll be watching more.

  • @jfn467
    @jfn467 Рік тому +1

    Would be great if it could get 128 steps (like Tracker) instead of 64.

  • @soltec6704
    @soltec6704 Рік тому

    There is a CRITICAL bug on the Play when using large projects. A save operation with 36 or more patterns takes several minutes. A project with 100+ patterns takes 45 minutes or longer to save. Copying the entire contents of the SD card takes a fraction of the time from computer to SD card as compared to a save operation on the Play. Just a total deal breaker in either live or production setting.

  • @LukeLendrum
    @LukeLendrum Рік тому +4

    I thought I would love the Polyend Play but I detest the feel of the device compared to Deluge. The buttons and knobs are not great to use.
    Would love to see some of its sequencing features in Deluge now it’s open source.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +2

      I like the pads on the play a lot, fast to slide across them, and the workflow warrants a lot of that.
      The capacitive knobs feel a bit like operation sometimes, trying not to hit anything else, but once I turned off the double tap things got a lot faster for me

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee Рік тому +2

    this or the Hapax tough

  • @jedfriesen
    @jedfriesen Рік тому +1

    This is great and exactly what i want to be doing w my play! however, i try plugging in my typhon etc and get nowhere, like 2 hours of pulling my hair out:) I've watched all the polyend and killer folks like you show how to connect devices to midi but no avail. any advice? or vids you'd send me to watch? thx again... love yer content. maybe i should just get the midi solutions box and that will be the solution?

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +1

      not connecting via midi at all?
      Midi OUT jack of the play, its a 3.5mm jack to a TYPE B adapter, the kind that came with the play.
      Then DIN to MIDI IN of the typhon, and figure out what the midi channel on the typhon is set to
      then send midi notes on that channel out of the play

    • @jedfriesen
      @jedfriesen Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear much appreciated! I had two new 1/8” midi to din adapters and swapped out one for another and all great:) thanks again.

  • @elwhagen
    @elwhagen Рік тому +3

    NOT selling my Deluge to get a Play…

    • @jrodohio
      @jrodohio Рік тому +2

      The Deluge has spoiled me. Even though there's many things it can't do, compared to this. There's also many more things it can do compared to the Play.

    • @joeymc5272
      @joeymc5272 Рік тому +1

      Your not missing anything deluge is so much better

    • @joeymc5272
      @joeymc5272 Рік тому +1

      @@jrodohiowhat things by the way cant you do on deluge that you can do with the polyend?

    • @bondi5000
      @bondi5000 Рік тому

      @@joeymc5272tumbleweeds… 🦗

  • @mikahmillard6746
    @mikahmillard6746 Рік тому

    slay

  • @kylew706
    @kylew706 Рік тому +1

    I’m watching this now but I’m very impatient lmao.. what’s the midi polyphony per step on the play? I can’t find a solid answer

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +1

      One note per trigger, so one for each row, UNLESS you use the chord mode, then you can put a chord on a single trig

  • @wolfgangwiesinger9502
    @wolfgangwiesinger9502 Рік тому +1

    Hi, if you mind some feedback, as a foreigner it is challenging to understand sometimes what you are saying. BR

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому +2

    This is insane. Jam more

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +1

      🙏

    • @Rollur1234
      @Rollur1234 Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear makes so much accessibility. I am controlling the daw with this. I dont have that much to hook up. It is definitely more fun than the daw itself

  • @enchanterthetim
    @enchanterthetim Рік тому

    I'm so glad i went with the Deluge instead of play! The workflows just don't make sense to me, looks like such a pain to work with. Happy you enjoy it, i just wouldn't vibe with that at all.

  • @BrancoArgenta
    @BrancoArgenta Рік тому +1

    Why it doesn't sample whyyyyyy!

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому +1

      Would make it a lot more flexible, I agree

  • @mnstr_0
    @mnstr_0 Рік тому +1

    Engagement.

  • @UnitedPebbles
    @UnitedPebbles 6 місяців тому

    Haha modular way sure are confusing

  • @SlavaChrome
    @SlavaChrome Рік тому +1

    Yamaha definitely needs carwash =)

  • @markpires5565
    @markpires5565 Рік тому +1

    say random one more time

  • @livewarp
    @livewarp Рік тому +1

    I bought one hated it and sold it, it was too touchy for mecIcspent more time correcting my mistakes. Horrible piece of kit😂

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      I did feel that at first. Right away I turned off the on-knob double tap to change parameter rows, & focused on the encoder, got a lot better

    • @livewarp
      @livewarp Рік тому

      Ok, I did try that but also at the time midi was very poor aswell, I wanted to use it to trigger my HPD20. I felt it was a one trick pony for D&B. After that I just went crazy and bought a Midi Arp, Polyend Seq, Oxi One and an NDLR. Now I have a few learning curves but the Seq and HPD20 is excellent so far, recording into the Seq from the HPD pads.

  • @BoopPOPO
    @BoopPOPO Рік тому +1

    It’s so crap managing samples. Total bum out

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      I do agree with that, not being able to get there with the usb is wack.
      I need to get better about reviewing certain things like they're tech, and not just like instruments, I take a lot of that stuff in stride when I probably shouldn't.

    • @BoopPOPO
      @BoopPOPO Рік тому

      @@JorbLovesGear no criticism - I was so hyped but couldn’t believe how slow and janky the sample side was. It’s like a pentium 2 or something. The pool was a total pain to clear / swap out and just not fast enough to maintain the inspiration for me.
      As for now - i don’t think you can beat an iPad with Drambo. It’s unbelievably good to use and not to mention all the synths/fx/and wide variety of exotic midi sequencer micro apps.
      It’s totally rad and doesn’t feel like a pc/daw - not in the slightest!

  • @pablowentscobar
    @pablowentscobar 5 місяців тому

    Homie break outta prison to do this video?

  • @alphanumeric1529
    @alphanumeric1529 Рік тому

    F'ing ref? Where is your whistle?

  • @joeymc5272
    @joeymc5272 Рік тому

    Deluge is way better no offense to anyone.

    • @JorbLovesGear
      @JorbLovesGear  Рік тому

      They've got pretty different goals, mostly

    • @MasterStatusUK
      @MasterStatusUK Рік тому

      The debate could go on, personally I LOVE the Deluge. However, with the Deluge firmware going open source, give it 12 months and it will be a giant killer

    • @joeymc5272
      @joeymc5272 Рік тому

      @@MasterStatusUK there’s no doubt once a product goes open source their endless possibilities. It’s a no-brainer at this point by a deluge because I can only see this product going up in price the more features it gets packed with.