Jim Cornette on Dusty Rhodes' Booking Reputation In The Mid-80s

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  • @brandonpotts54
    @brandonpotts54 2 роки тому +45

    I love the old school stories.

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 2 роки тому +5

      Everyone does. Jim is much better doing this than ranting about Russo.

    • @myquest666420
      @myquest666420 2 роки тому +2

      @@danielburger1775 his Russo rants are still gold IMO lol but I agree, this is Jim at his best. Talking about the glory days.

    • @chriss1686
      @chriss1686 2 роки тому +1

      Me too. For those of us who just aren't interested in the current product, there's only so much complaining about flippy midget shit that you can take. And his videos (old school stories, watch alongs etc.) seem to suggest it's a pretty commonly held opinion. It also comes down to what he wants his legacy to be. Do you want to have people scroll through hundreds of hours of roasts to find the gems of information and the endearing stories that only Jim can tell? Hell I like hearing him talk about fast food more than AEW. At this point, given his whole AEW schtick, maybe there should be a distinct brand/show that deals exclusively with old school content.
      But I'll take what I can get I guess.

  • @heathhaynes990
    @heathhaynes990 2 роки тому +22

    I think it's high time for a Dusty omnibus!

  • @Shin-Blade
    @Shin-Blade 2 роки тому +35

    I love the Dusty stories. I could listen to them all day... 🙏🏾

    • @kingofnewyork8092
      @kingofnewyork8092 2 роки тому +7

      I love all the old school stories I find it all so fascinating.

    • @GerardoALLO
      @GerardoALLO 2 роки тому +2

      Yezzir!

    • @Shin-Blade
      @Shin-Blade 2 роки тому +1

      @@kingofnewyork8092 Cannot argue with that! 😊

  • @bulldogfan17
    @bulldogfan17 2 роки тому +7

    As a native of Summerville, Ga I can agree that no one should be working there. Under any circumstances.

  • @ryancarr5871
    @ryancarr5871 2 роки тому +29

    Love Dusty stories. He was such a complex guy.

    • @RedFox0909
      @RedFox0909 2 роки тому +17

      He’s just a common man. Working hard with his hands.

    • @garybeeman1957
      @garybeeman1957 2 роки тому +11

      Sounds like the American dream to me.

    • @tobiasfarragut292
      @tobiasfarragut292 2 роки тому +2

      “Kid…Dont talk about the Challengahh..go out there n doitagain…”

  • @Meatball2022
    @Meatball2022 2 роки тому +13

    They key to Dusty’s successful booking is simple - his muffler was the key!

  • @markjones952
    @markjones952 2 роки тому +32

    Dusty was the second most recognizable athlete back in the day. (According to Dusty Rhodes)

    • @mightilyoats2729
      @mightilyoats2729 2 роки тому +13

      Haha I've heard him say that line. Absolutely fucking delusional. Wasn't it a story about someone driving with him, they get pulled over by a cop, Dusty assures the other wrestler it's fine, everyone recognizes him (cue the second most recognized athlete in the world line), and the cop had no fucking clue and they got a ticket?

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma 2 роки тому +1

      Who was #1?

    • @rickd9951
      @rickd9951 2 роки тому +9

      @@mightilyoats2729 he was driving with Bruce Pritchard who was recognized as Brother Love by the cop

    • @brihev4355
      @brihev4355 2 роки тому +6

      @@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Cassius Clay/ Muhammad Ali.

    • @CraigSmithII
      @CraigSmithII 2 роки тому +5

      @@mightilyoats2729
      Yeah & it was Bruce Prichard aka Brother Love

  • @MB-oc1nw
    @MB-oc1nw 2 роки тому +15

    JCP was the best promotion in wrestling history in my opinion....loved everything about it

    • @patale1640
      @patale1640 2 роки тому +6

      The hottest crowds both literally and figuratively. Seriously look at the chicks in the crowd watching Flair and Steamboat in the late 70s. Holy smokes.

    • @theecharmingbilly
      @theecharmingbilly 2 роки тому +1

      Nah definitely Dubya See Dubya first couple years in the 90's. PN News era, not even a close second.

    • @patale1640
      @patale1640 2 роки тому +1

      @@theecharmingbilly nah it has to be the new generation with mantar and Kwang

    • @PontFlair
      @PontFlair Рік тому

      Even when I was a kid, I recognized that WWF was the cartoon and JCP was "THE REAL S**T"

  • @arturoalmazan5262
    @arturoalmazan5262 2 роки тому +8

    He was a great Booker in his early days but then he screwed Austin , he only wanted him as a tag team specialist. I'm not sugar coating it. he buried his career in WCW. hell Austin even made fun of him when he went to ECW in the beginning. his creative storylines weren't that good in the mid 90s. with all the nwo thing it went all down the toilet

    • @philipclarke9696
      @philipclarke9696 2 роки тому +3

      That was Bischoff not Dusty. Dusty put the World TV title on Austin as well as the U.S. title. Bischoff put him together with Pillman and later Robert Fuller( Col.Rob Parker) and gave him mini pushes that were halted soon after.

    • @arturoalmazan5262
      @arturoalmazan5262 2 роки тому +4

      @@philipclarke9696 no just watch his 1st ecw promo. he clearly is mad at Rhodes too. not just bischoff dude

  • @PontFlair
    @PontFlair Рік тому +2

    "Don't do shit you don't know how to do, don't do shit, you don't know how to do!!"
    - R.I.P. Star Dust

  • @colonelrobertsjr.7882
    @colonelrobertsjr.7882 2 роки тому +2

    Boys, by this time next year, we gonna be making major motion pictures and sitcoms!!

  • @johnnysprockets5817
    @johnnysprockets5817 2 роки тому +3

    Dusty was awesome... I like Cody. I just think he's trying to hard. Not letting it come to him instead he's trying to take it.

    • @colonelrobertsjr.7882
      @colonelrobertsjr.7882 2 роки тому

      Agreed!! Cody has some good ideas and has all the resources knowledge and experience to get them over, but he has to embrace being a heel. It's not working for him as a face unless he's working with Dustin. And the other point (not trying to beat a dead horse), He has to keep Brandie off TV!! It seems like when he's in the office writing segments with Tony Khan, she changes the final draft when they leave for lunch!!

  • @GerardoALLO
    @GerardoALLO 2 роки тому +4

    Dusty is the 🐐

  • @holden3
    @holden3 2 роки тому +6

    I popped when I heard Flair named his gimmick Charolett

    • @jeffmac9642
      @jeffmac9642 2 роки тому

      Did you pop ? Really ? You popped? I thought crowds pop in an arena 🤔 so are you 10,000 people cheering ? And normally pops happen with entrance music . 🎶 Is there wrestling music 🎶 in your house to pop to ?

  • @theubie
    @theubie 2 роки тому +2

    The Mech table was never manned well at the Sportatorium. Corny was right, if they had someone who knew how to run merch, it would have been sold out constantly.

  • @thedoctor3528
    @thedoctor3528 Рік тому

    X Tldr: the answer is jim didn't know about his booking reputation in 84

  • @graysonwallernxt2.04
    @graysonwallernxt2.04 2 роки тому +3

    Let's talk about the fact that nobody was at aew dynamite this week lol the arena was empty . Impact wrestling had more fans then them this week

  • @Bandana_Boi
    @Bandana_Boi Рік тому

    That's funny. Completely coincidental, I listened to a Corny clip right before this of Cornette talking about apartment life in Stamford. The one down south in Atlanta was glorious and beautiful, the one up north was congested, confined and felt like prison.
    Atlanta is one of the biggest cities in the south, no? I'd imagine that's a congested area too. Corny's disdain for the northern part of the country, particularly New York, is hilarious.

  • @villainouschrisk
    @villainouschrisk Рік тому

    Some ambitious graphic designers need to submit ideas for a full on, wwe style Midnight Express t-shirt. Too close to the holidays for Jim to offer it now, but, I bet that would be a mega seller for Cornette's Collectibles. I haven't bought any wrestling merch for a while, but, that I would buy in a heartbeat.

  • @brihev4355
    @brihev4355 2 роки тому +2

    Back in approx. 1989, Dusty tried to re-make Championship Wrestling from Florida. Dustin was to be his biggest star.
    They held a card at Fla. Fairgrounds in Tampa, with main event of Kerry vs. Jerry. (VonErich vs. Lawler).

    • @Dave-rf1zj
      @Dave-rf1zj 2 роки тому

      Huh....i know bout Dusty's attempt to bring back the Florida promotion....plus his big plans for Dustin....but i didn't know he got Lawler vs Von Erich to main event though.

  • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
    @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 2 роки тому +52

    I genuinely believe that Dusty is the reason why Cody is the way he is. They have the same self-entitled, self-centered ego. But at least Dusty was an incredible talent, Cody is average at best and has the same ego. How did Dustin end up so humble? Maybe, growing up without Dusty around was a benefit because he was around Cody 24/7.

    • @YellowJeep
      @YellowJeep 2 роки тому +10

      That's a good question. They could just be different personalities. Also, Cody is 16 years younger than Dustin. Maybe that had something to do with it?

    • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
      @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 2 роки тому +19

      @@YellowJeep Dustin has gone on record that he only saw Dusty once a year when he was a kid and that was on Christmas Day, he was semi-retired and living at home every night when Cody was growing up.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 2 роки тому +11

      @@YellowJeep Dustin unfortunately was never really pushed past a mid card talent. He was always gimmicked as Goldust etc, Cody on the other hand was pushed to the moon several times.

    • @DudeinGA
      @DudeinGA 2 роки тому +5

      What's not mentioned is the hard time Dustin Rhodes had starting out as "The Natural" Dustin Rhodes. He was basically a young babyface in early '90s WCW that they tried to push but he just didn't catch on (Dusty Rhodes Lite basically). It was only until he became Goldust that he took off. Cody is a decent wrestler but wasn't going to get anywhere in the WWE despite being on the cusp of breaking through. Now he's at the top in AEW and no one watching wants him there.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 2 роки тому +3

      @@DudeinGA I remember when Dustin started, in WCW. He even said at the time that his real last name was Runnels. He wanted to separate himself from the gimmick of Goldust

  • @Forever_Thatter
    @Forever_Thatter 2 роки тому +1

    Lol the only thing I need to know about Dusty's booking is everything Austin said about him in his early ECW rants.

    • @michaelkeha
      @michaelkeha 6 місяців тому

      So one guy not getting used fully and venting is all you need to know not every good booking choice he made truly the mind of the internet smark is one of simplicity and stupidity

  • @salsacinco25
    @salsacinco25 2 роки тому

    Love these stories

  • @peterfalvytamas2912
    @peterfalvytamas2912 2 роки тому

    Dusty was red hot whatever program he was booked in at JCP. He had a real long feud with Flair that never let off. Then Tully then the Horsemen and on and on, always top billing, almost like Hulk in the WWF. JCP fans went bananas for him to the end of 1988 when he left

  • @Sevenigma777
    @Sevenigma777 2 роки тому +2

    Does anyone know if Cornette ever explained why in 1987 Dennis Condrey stranded them in Los Angeles changing his airplane ticket and left Crocket Promotions without ever saying a word to anyone? I never heard anyone ever give a definite reason as to why he did that and I've been searching through Cornette's content and can't find him talking about it.

    • @bryneshifflett9889
      @bryneshifflett9889 2 роки тому +2

      He has said that nobody knew the reason at the time but Dennis filled him in years later. All he said was he does know the reason now, but he's not telling what it is.

    • @EchoFoxtrot21
      @EchoFoxtrot21 2 роки тому +3

      He knows why but won't say out of respect for Dennis.

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner 2 роки тому +1

      Dennis Condrey has given his own account of what happened. Cornette and the Midnight Express were negotiating with the WWE. Tully Blanchard saw them at the airport coming or going to a meeting with Vince. Tully reported it to the Crocketts. Condrey claims that they had taken the WWE deal. But that Cornette and Eaton backed out at the last minute. To Condrey it was a matter of "a deal is a deal" and he left even though the other two didn't. I don't completely trust Condrey's version and there are some things he says that are totally wrong. But I think the main parts are right. They were negotiating with the WWE. Tully told JCP. And Condrey left for reasons that have to do with the WWE deal breaking down.
      For Condrey's version see his interview with TWO MAN POWER TRIP OF WRESTLING
      on 04/29/20. The podcast is available alot of places.

  • @carloslozada470
    @carloslozada470 2 роки тому +6

    Pay window if you will

  • @BrotherTonyshow
    @BrotherTonyshow Рік тому

    Dusty had his favorites especially himself

  • @mikebowermaster4250
    @mikebowermaster4250 2 роки тому +1

    Rhodes and Flair were cartoonish.

  • @kevindouglas5333
    @kevindouglas5333 2 роки тому +4

    The Dusty finishes got old very fast..

    • @tempestfennac9687
      @tempestfennac9687 2 роки тому +2

      The expression LLLLLLAZY BOOKING! springs to mind for those. I remember Jim mentioning that Dusty often liked to rebook angles with different people while thinking the audience wouldn't notice (that seems like it should have done far more damage to kayfabe than anything short of admitting it's predetermined).

  • @dreamersdisease2481
    @dreamersdisease2481 2 роки тому +1

    According to Ronnie Garvin, Dusty was a terrible booker. Killed the territory.

  • @granthillberry8175
    @granthillberry8175 2 роки тому +1

    Wheeling wv my home 💯💯💯

  • @ryandoubleu.
    @ryandoubleu. 2 роки тому

    We know the story of you and Midnight already Jim, just say what the locker room talk around the territories was about Dusty’s booking around that time. At least he didn’t talk about the broadway and calling the office on Slater this time. He never did answer the question.

  • @jameswenger511
    @jameswenger511 2 роки тому

    Dusty was a pos worker.

  • @perfectblindguy
    @perfectblindguy 5 місяців тому

    duthy rothes

  • @brianconnelly1238
    @brianconnelly1238 2 роки тому

    I don't really give a shit if people get offended by this, but good grief! Dusty Rhodes was terribly OVERRATED, as both a booker and a wrestler

    • @fjccommish
      @fjccommish 2 роки тому

      That ain't gonna get ya to the pay windaw, baby!

  • @dustyhaynes5688
    @dustyhaynes5688 2 роки тому +1

    Dusty only shined when he was booking. That should tell you something. Now Cody is only shining in AEW because he's office even though the crowds are booing him out of the building. The Rhodes family is the most overrated family in the history of the sport.

    • @theecharmingbilly
      @theecharmingbilly 2 роки тому

      🤔

    • @geoffreyjoseph514
      @geoffreyjoseph514 2 роки тому

      so he was always booking then? because from the time he became a big star he shone until he got old.

  • @BryanHalo123
    @BryanHalo123 2 роки тому +2

    Dusty was a bum. He was a big pile of cottage cheese, never bought him as a wrestler. His promos were boring. I love southern wrestling. But not this guy.

    • @Ted_Bell
      @Ted_Bell 2 роки тому +4

      I bet if he shoot hit you with his elbow he'd bust your ass.

    • @dreamsofcosmicoceans8105
      @dreamsofcosmicoceans8105 2 роки тому +3

      @@Ted_Bell No he wouldn't, he's dead.

    • @bryneshifflett9889
      @bryneshifflett9889 2 роки тому

      @@dreamsofcosmicoceans8105 Sure he would. Imagine that bony ass elbow...the boneonic elbow...

    • @PhillyLeotardo41
      @PhillyLeotardo41 2 роки тому +7

      You lost me at boring promos. You're being incredibly disingenuous lol

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 2 роки тому +1

      You have to be trolling. lol