@@WalvisYT honestly this J35Xs should have been in tech tree because this way its just blatant Pay 2 win version if the Draken since now the Premium version has all the Belts and wissels of the Tech tree J35D 10.3, Also the Gun Tracers Were removed from all the 30mm swedish guns just because "Somebody" complained on forums that the TRACERS ARENT historical....
I think its gaijins way to prevent from pay to win. Buyers get acces to other tiers because theyre playing completely different from another. You buy access and a mid tiered plane with a lot of work to master and decent performance so you still evolve and grind for the top models. I think its a pretty good way for skipping the meh props and playing what you like. I bought the f4s two weeks ago and had a lot of fun researching, testing, playing and grinding. Dont regret any euro and now im near my beloved f14. I like the way they place the premiums, and i also think the „buyer hater“ should be happy for the thrill of: is it a free frag or is this guy blasting me away with its mid tiered but mastered plane
On the flip-side I got the 23ML today and I'm having a blast. Watched a couple radar and missile videos and I average 1 to 3 kills with the occasional 'chaff and notching while on the deck doing nothing' 0 kills, deaths.
The J35 is known for being the first jet to be able to perform a Cobra, if you want to buy it for the Cobra maneuver then be prepared to be disappointed because no varient of the Draken in War Thunder can perform a Cobra anymore because of the flight model changes, you can get close to performing a Cobra, but it will never truly be a Cobra maneuver
@@MunitionsDudTester that is true, sadly is why it's restricted to 3k and under, engine kill and long range barrel roll wear out the missile but mostly just can't let them get behind you and avoid furballs
@@Badwolf3378 I agree, but at the same time it is next to impossible because everything can out-turn you and get behind you and just sit there. If you try to outrun them you get a missile in the ass. If you try to turn to dodge (which you can't) they catch you can gun you down. You can't win. All you can do is hope to third-party one or two people before you inevitably die.
Gonna be honest, when I see this thing in the f-5E I see a pretty easy kill. It's very rare I see anyone who actually knows how to fly it and even when they do it just struggles to keep up with the Tiger II's energy retention.
Yeah pretty much the same thing here when i see it. While im flying the F8E since its lacking a lot of chaff and flares its pretty much an easy kill for me.
Yeah, though I do hate versing this thing with my Daimler Mk ii because I can't do anything against the Daimler's "Grand Slam" 50 kg bombs. They always pilot snipe my engine :(
j35xs performs better late game when there is not much people around and you can just fly straight without worrying about dodging 100 missiles and bleed all your speed. Thereafter you can just run trains on people going at 1430kmh on the deck ensuring absolutely nobody can catch you up
It an okay plane. I'm glad you enjoy it. If it was a tech tree (aka free) vehicle I wouldn't have been as negative as I am about this plane. My issue is that for 70 USD, you can get your hands on better, more fun aircraft.
This was in the initial edit, but I decided to cut it out after doing some testing. Due to the relatively slow fuel burn with the afterburner turned on, it does actually last for quite a while compared to some other jets around this BR. More fuel would be better, but I wouldn't call this a shortcoming either.
The thing about Drakens is they should be played as ambush hunters - they have decent speed and a lot of missles, so you fly to the side low, engage enemies from the back (A-10s or Su-25s) make as many kills as you can. Then you fly back to base (because you have only 20 minutes of fuel), reload and dominate the end game with maneuverabilty and guns.
@@WalvisYT Until the end game like described at the end of the comment, the draken can maneuver. It def has a large learning curve, but it is my fav jet credit grinder hands down. You get used to the gun after some time
for me, I agree with some points, like how the gun is hard to use and flares are limited. I find it really overpowered at its br. I have not gotten a lot of uptiers for me so it helps the plane do better. I also like its flight model because at speeds of mach .85-.9, it holds it energy fairly well due to it compressing and it still turns super good at low speeds. I also like how it's fast enough to outrun a good amount of enemy's you face. also since it gets a lot of missile that are decent, I can use them at closer range if I cant hit my shots with my gun. this plane also suits my play style of flanking from the left or orbital striking people who are unaware. you definitely need to pick your fights with it and check your 6 a lot and put yourself into a good poistion. this is not as beginner friendly as the f5c is. my main issue is the low fuel it gets, forcing you to come back to base. though I do like how it can take a good amount of damage. my kdr with it as been 2.4 overall from all matches with it
My Suggestion : Pray for down-tier which you will get a lot , stay high in down tier and low in uptier , stay fast , don’t engage with Dogfight unless absolutely necessary , Remember you are one of the fastest jet in this BR, in up tier try to get into the rear of Hottest afterburner jets like F4 and Tornado , they can’t flare you missile and they can’t cut their afterburner easily (takes time) , take rocket pod for extra flare but it’s gets heavy ! remember you are not the main character with J35XS so pick your target carefully
I just want to say right now you’re an awesome creator! This video was not only informative but i laughed so much. The part where you mentioned it not having RWR had me almost in tears bro so true 😂
I find it to be quite a fun aircraft, imo all it’s short comings make it all the more fun when you really curb stomp the enemy, which this this is more than capable, however, you really need to know what your getting into before buying it in my opinion
I bought it a while back and play with full controls in VR. The plane was absolutely hilarious with full controls and a HOTAS. Sure I crashed sometimes by flat spinning it, but overall it was a plane that could get on anyone's tail and stay there. Now it flies like a brick on rails. It's not that it can't turn, it just doesn't have any nose authority. No more cobras, no more crazy speed dumps, it's utterly boring to fly. It flies a lot like bombers did 10 years ago when they had placeholder flight models. No character at all. Currently my favorite is the Kfir Canard for premiums, it's a lot like the old J35XS but with only 2 missiles in exchange for a guaranteed base kill.
I actually Dog fought 2 of them at the same time in an F-5E at low ground and they both lost / got killed because they both missed 7 missles in total and both ran out of ammo. Its just a very niche aircraft that requires TONS of skill.
as a person who just did 4 days of non stop grinding with the j35xs you need the load out with 6 missiles and with the extra pilons carry 2 rocket pods to act as flares and to go against ground targets
I have both the j35A and the xs I feel both planes are great if used correctly and the xs has been a great help in grinding through the Swedish tech tree and I personally love it it’s exactly my play style but I get where you come from. But I don’t regret it at all I got top tier Sweden in 3 weeks flat starting at rank 5 mid way, it has a great modifier more on rp and it’s awesome. Thanks for the vid keep going!!
This piece of art is a money printer! If you're not able to fly it properly don't blame it. You can out out maneuver nearly everything with it. And the point with the flares, you can use them one by one.
im looking forward to buy this jet when it comes in sale at the birthday period, to finish my swedish tech tree and also maybe the gripen at the end of the year ? i do think its a great plane for 35bucks but not for 70
Huh? This thing is great. Because the J35 can pull so much you can really get those missiles on point, and they are decently flare resistant. Even tho you only get 12 flares, you only need one pop to flare a missile. And Yes, the gun has no traces, but after a while, you get used to aim them. And finally, its so easy to get behind targets, and 10.7 matchmaker is absolutely lovely.
bro the j35xs is easily the best tier for tier 10.7 in this game together with the f5e. 10.7 always gets full downtiers, in which many jets at that br have 2 missiles, missiles that do not pull many g's and are very prone to flares. the j35 is made for flying high, diving on already engaged targets, popping a missile from 3km going downhill, then rinsing and repeating until it's incredible load of 6 aim9j's are depleted. After that, with the state of f5c and su25k mains, it has at least 3-4 kills and rtb's, or decides to dogfight something, and out turns it instantly then has all day to hit its shot with it's difficult to use 30mm. then it rtb's. the thing is very solid walvis u just dont comprehend how to use it.
I think the j35xs is a really good jet in comparison to other premium jets within the same kind of br range. You get 6 good missiles, you get some counters, gun, and rockets. You also get tons of hardpoints, which the majority of premium jets do not have. The f5c get low G missiles, the av8 is barely an attacker, the A10 is slow, the mig 21 sks-k only gets 3 hardpoints and 1 being used only for either a gun OR countermeasures.
Instead of learning flare management learn missile management. Know what you can outpull and what you can’t to preserve your CM amount. The gun is a great gun it is just wonkily-placed which is something to get used to. Perfect premium where it’s not brain dead but not absolute garbage either. But also not the perfect premium as it is Finland’s most powerful fighter before the Hornet.
U dont even need flares in the draken aslong as u have a small ammount of speed cuz u out pull all missiles at ur br. And the techtree is better cuz 2 guns and lower br
Got this thing for the sales yesterday. I have fully researched and modified every single U.S. and Russian plane. Moving on to Sweden now. This plane kinda suffers in rb but my god... in sim battles... this thing FUCKS lmao. The irst makes it so damn easy to find people.
Honestly having played the J35A a lot recently, there was plenty of times I thought that if I had just a few flares and I could win a match even in full uptiers. I'm definetaly set on buying the J35XS, but I'm not shelving out $70 on any pixel plane, I'm gonna wait until it goes on sale and then buy it.
buy it, its the most fun Ive had playing war thunder in a while, climb to 20-30k feet, then drop down behind enemies, once ur behind them, they can't really do much.
It honestly just excels at capitalizing on low skill enemies (most at the br), which is enough when you're trying to get through a tech tree. I can't complain too much about the plane that get's me almost a 7kd while not requiring much effort on my part. Though I would definitely not recommend buying it if you're doing anything other than grinding, it's just repetitive
i recently got the j35XS and i totally love it, im really eager to finish the swedish tree and ive found it to really work on flanks and using the rockets to get some more rp from bases also helps
recently opened 2 cases and got a coupon and sold it, meaning i suddenly had 220GJN, so i bought this thing. havent played much yet so its a shame to see its not that good of a plane. as a (dedicated, fuck you sweden's awesome...) sweden player who wouldn't make the most of premium account time, this is really the only option i had for a worthwhile purchase.
yeah this is really shit. No RWR, almost no CM, really shitty missles and u cant just take rocket pods and rocket bases anymore and have fun fighing the F14
Finally someone that calls out the shortcomings of the overhyped aircraft. Really enjoyed your differing opinion on the german sea hawk too. And to be honest I don´t think the rb 24 are that good either, just "ok". Underrated channel.
You mention at 8:57 that this jet isnt the best at anything, however I would like to point out the F4S, which you said we should buy, isnt the best at anything either. Very far from it. Its flight performance is mediocre, its radar is not the best, and it doesn't have an incredibly high speed. To add insult to injury, it sits at BR 11.3, which, with experience from the f4j, always gets 12.0 matches. always. The j35xs however, always gets downtiers. always. same with the f5e. Honestly, after watching some of your gameplay, i think i can diagnose a skill issue.
A great premium doesn't need to be the best at anything; it needs to offer great value, especially if you are paying 70 USD. The F-4S offers: - amazing weapons for 11.3 - a good radar for 11.3 - amazing versatility - massive potential game impact - the ability to research a worthwhile tech tree - an overall fun and ergonomic experience - sub-par flight performance - does okay in uptiers The J-35XS offers: - a great quantity of missiles for 10.7 - massive potential game impact - sub-par flight performance - no RWR, realistically no chaff - does absolutely not do okay in uptiers (god forbid this plane starts seeing exclusively 11.7 games at some point, rip your investment) I hope this answers your question.
@@WalvisYT The lack of usable chaff and rwr doesnt really matter as at 10.0-9.7 you wont see any usable radar missiles that you cant just dodge. I do not agree with the subpar flight performance however, as that is just silly, and you will burn clueless f5's and mig's in a turn fight, at least the first turn. ass gun tho so cant dogfight reliably over 0.5km. I do agree that swedish air, unless u are trying to get CAS for swedish ground, is not worthwhile at all as other nations just do what sweden does but better. That said, i enjoy your content, keep it up.
@@WalvisYT The thing is tho, is that 11.7 games aren't common anymore, if you're playing 11.7, you really just playing 12.0, so the J35xs really isn't ever going to get uptiers to 11.7 a lot, and the radar missiles you do face, you just fly horizontal to the missile then pull up at the last second, which is extremely easy to do in a plane as manoeuvrable as the j35
@@supersolleks5518 At 10.7 having no chaff or RWR is horrable. F-4E or F-8E can be a huge threat. XS' flight performance just isn't on par with the likes of other select 10.7's, like the F-5E. Sure, its still an okay fighter, but its not anywhere near apex level. As for your comment regarding the F-4S; see my original reply. I'm not saying the F-4S has better flight performance. Hope this helps. :)
Can you revisit the A5-C? It's definitely experinced a meta shift, but I'd argue it's still one of the best 10.0's out there, a more refined missile bus than the A-10 and SU-25 :3, especially considering the underwhelming J-7D that china gets as an rank 7 prem
I got it as a gift so cind of obligated to use it. I masterd it and get consistent 3 to 5 kill games. If u master the cannon and the missile use its a f@cking monster aspesialy at premium against newer players.
I like coming across this jet in the F-5E. A lot of the time I swoop in from above players just below contrail height with radar off, so they never see me coming. They're pretty scary if they get right behind you tho, bc they can maneuver better than you at low speeds, at the cost of bleeding a lot of speed. In my experience, most players in this jet are the equivalent of most F-5C players. Generally unaware and struggle in a dogfight. It is always fun when you get a skilled pilot in one tho. Good dogfights are why I play the game. Sidenote: I feel like a lot of people see 6 missiles and go "OOH MISSILES" when they buy this jet. I get it, but whenever I get a new jet I look up reviews and such to get a good idea of it's strengths and weaknesses, and I feel like a lot of people just don't do that. I'll even look at videos of jets I normally fight to get a good idea of what they're best and worst at too.
Well about the gun: it should get the radar lead indicator soon. About the fuel: it still lacks its drop tank. The flight model change really sucks and destroys the Draken's speciality in unstable flying. You forgor one thing though: it has an IRST which you can use to sling missiles more effectively.
This plane is some of the most fun ive had in this game in years this and the finish mig 21 bis, the low flares can be limiting if you dont play right, do put yourself in a position to get missiled, normally it only takes one flare pop per missile, keep your speed up, come from above, missile and climb again, i normally get 3-6 kills per game in that jer, it is really really fun if you play smart
Aidens are some of the worst guns in the game at that BR, especially if you cant see the damn rounds. Played a large number of games in this thing after getting it for 30 days and the gun was a nightmare to use. Sometimes did damage sometimes did nothing. That and missiles are so easy to flare.
You put the mig-23ml below the kfir and f4s? Its one of the most op premiums to ever be added. I have it and used it to grind the mig29 and i frequently found myself winning dogfights against f16s and mig29s in it. Not to mention the 2 blatantly overpowered radar missiles.
I didn't feel like talking about it in this video. In the future I will make a more ramble style video where I just talking over / about one specific match.
Its perfect for ambushes where you drop behind your victim, nimble enough to dictate the dogfight and powerful enough to boost away ehen overwhelmed. The flares are great for short engagements, they are high caliber flares after all. The flight model change happened not only to the XS, it happened to all delta shaped aircrafts. Maybe its just my particular playstyle but it works really well and i love the XS to bits. The gun really is garbage, tho.
Generally agreed to this video, one thing u ddint mention its that this plane is a very very good trainer for the ja37c and the ja37d. Ive basially grinded whole air sweden with only this thing.
Honestly I love the j35xs. I’m having lots of fun and the gun is not an issue anymore as I got used to it. As well the flares are more than enough as I barley use then and survive almost all the time and get at least 3 air kills.
If you are doubting between those three options, 100% get the J-35XS. The other aren't worth it, even at half the price. Keep in mind that in two weeks there will likely be sales going on.
I have the Su22M3 squadron and is kinda like this, 12 flares, 6 R60s but... is an atack aircraft, so is nice to go for bases but even with the variable swept wings is not very agile, still, at 10.7 you can climb to the exosphere and drop the missiles to get easy kills (and the 300 shots from the 30mm cannons are quite good)
The last thing about the aircraft not being good for beginners is honestly what i think about the swedish tech tree as a whole, it has some good things like the J35D and the CV90s but alot of its vehicles have quirks and shortfalls that you need to be well aware of.
with the summer sale(meaning my F-15A at 12.3 gets downteired to 11.3 often) and the new update pushing 12.0-12.7 into 13.0 as well, somehow I've versed the J-35XS in a few games(12.3 F-15 with 7Ms and 9Ms against a 10.7 Dorito with RB24Js) (god they need to fix the matchmaker)
Kfir Canard Video Next? I noticed you rated it above the Goofy Finnish Dorito and the Kfir Canard is a plane that i think is a real hidden gem. I regretted buying it until i had played about 20 matches in it and learned how to properly fly it. Now that i have learned to use it i have come to really enjoy flying it and i used it to grind the Netz. 2nd Question. Given how you showcased multiple tier list images/slides in this video i was wondering if you had given any thought to doing a tier list video for the Rank 6-7/BR 9.7 - 10.7 Premiums? Or for all the planes in the Fox 2 Meta at 9.7 - 10.7? I know its outside the scope of your normal videos but i think that it would make for great content, especially if you did it round table style with Joob, Seek, Lee and Jaek all actively providing input. I imagine some pretty funny banter would come out of that discussion.
First reason not to get, is it’s £70! Ridiculous prices per top tier planes from Gaijin, when they age & date verily poorly with now they want aaa game price per prem plane ! gaijin are high on there own smoke in this world. Soon £100 is coming - they got so greedy many are leaving in droves if they keep them all £30 max they sell many more more but gaijin keep up screwing your player base in most things. Cool vid none the less 🤜
Any tips for j35xs and why i always get 1kill and die is it normal or not and why people dont use irst on this thing (i need tip please give some tip and i dont now why most of the time i can out maneuver su25 f5c ) i always ended up getting 1or 2 kill and die ) and how many kills do you get most of the time
Tbh when using my J35A (cant buy it anymore sadly) the guns feel super good if you can get used to the lack of tracers. They don't feel that affected by realshatter and hit hard, super reliable guns from my experience. I haven't played the J35XS though but the fact that it gets only 1 of them probably is a huge throwoff, just like when I unlocked my strike viggen (10.3 one), the single wing mounted pod is horrible, unless you wanna sacrifice having no flares for 2 pods :).
I can't agree too much with this video for the fundamental reason that I believe the J35XS is actually good. - You made no mention of the IRST and the plane's insane ability to sneak up on those unsuspecting. - The energy retention of the aircraft, when you know how to manage your turn, is very good as far as deltas go and much better than the Viggen, comes close to rivaling that of the Mirage 2000C series. - Gun placement can just be mitigated with practice. - Stop panic popping your flares whenever you see a missile coming. This J35 runs pretty cool. Pop one and hide your afterburner. - Don't worry about RWR if you're after situational awareness. Fly low and mitigate an potential axis of attack. If you suspect a plane is locking you with SARH missile, learn how to fly the notch and force them to overshoot. - Don't charge into unwinnable situations (duh). This plane is excellent at dealing with individuals who try to flank and go wide. Forcing yourself into unwinnable situations (like several F-5s at once) WILL get you killed, no matter what plane you fly. Learn to use your radar, its pretty decent and will give you an idea of what you're up against.
When you're paying 70 damn bucks, you expect a *good* jet, not a mediocre jet
Yep. This is exactly my issue with this plane.
@@WalvisYT honestly this J35Xs should have been in tech tree because this way its just blatant Pay 2 win version if the Draken since now the Premium version has all the Belts and wissels of the Tech tree J35D 10.3,
Also the Gun Tracers Were removed from all the 30mm swedish guns just because "Somebody" complained on forums that the TRACERS ARENT historical....
@@WalvisYTalso if you switch to FULL Sim control, you can get the old manevourability that draken had before the flight model change
I think its gaijins way to prevent from pay to win. Buyers get acces to other tiers because theyre playing completely different from another. You buy access and a mid tiered plane with a lot of work to master and decent performance so you still evolve and grind for the top models. I think its a pretty good way for skipping the meh props and playing what you like. I bought the f4s two weeks ago and had a lot of fun researching, testing, playing and grinding. Dont regret any euro and now im near my beloved f14. I like the way they place the premiums, and i also think the „buyer hater“ should be happy for the thrill of: is it a free frag or is this guy blasting me away with its mid tiered but mastered plane
On the flip-side I got the 23ML today and I'm having a blast. Watched a couple radar and missile videos and I average 1 to 3 kills with the occasional 'chaff and notching while on the deck doing nothing' 0 kills, deaths.
The J35 is known for being the first jet to be able to perform a Cobra, if you want to buy it for the Cobra maneuver then be prepared to be disappointed because no varient of the Draken in War Thunder can perform a Cobra anymore because of the flight model changes, you can get close to performing a Cobra, but it will never truly be a Cobra maneuver
You can do it, you just have to change your control settings to full control
@@frankdevo5715I’d genuinely rather uninstall warthunder
Last time I was this early you could still buy the Yak-38 (pls don't bully me)
I bought a talisman for the M version
It's not bad with a teammate and tactics r-60s and slight climb to out run even a f-5. Quite interesting in SIM I found.
@@Badwolf3378 No countermeasures and you can't pull hard enough to dodge anything launched at you.
@@MunitionsDudTester that is true, sadly is why it's restricted to 3k and under, engine kill and long range barrel roll wear out the missile but mostly just can't let them get behind you and avoid furballs
@@Badwolf3378 I agree, but at the same time it is next to impossible because everything can out-turn you and get behind you and just sit there. If you try to outrun them you get a missile in the ass. If you try to turn to dodge (which you can't) they catch you can gun you down. You can't win. All you can do is hope to third-party one or two people before you inevitably die.
Gonna be honest, when I see this thing in the f-5E I see a pretty easy kill. It's very rare I see anyone who actually knows how to fly it and even when they do it just struggles to keep up with the Tiger II's energy retention.
Yeah pretty much the same thing here when i see it. While im flying the F8E since its lacking a lot of chaff and flares its pretty much an easy kill for me.
Even if they know how to fly it, after they changed its flight model it just sucks in general, it doesn't have the scary nose authority it used to.
Yeah, though I do hate versing this thing with my Daimler Mk ii because I can't do anything against the Daimler's "Grand Slam" 50 kg bombs. They always pilot snipe my engine :(
Put two pilots of equal skill in these two jets and the Drakken will win every time. You’re probably killing lvl 20 wallet warriors.
j35xs performs better late game when there is not much people around and you can just fly straight without worrying about dodging 100 missiles and bleed all your speed. Thereafter you can just run trains on people going at 1430kmh on the deck ensuring absolutely nobody can catch you up
I saw this on my recommendation and i was honestly shocked. I love this thing and do very well in it. Sad to think alot of other people dnt enjoy it.
same, its my fav 10.7
I think they mean 70$ is 70$
hell nah, this plane is easy top 3 best premiums in the game, and one of the best planes for its BR
It an okay plane. I'm glad you enjoy it. If it was a tech tree (aka free) vehicle I wouldn't have been as negative as I am about this plane. My issue is that for 70 USD, you can get your hands on better, more fun aircraft.
@@WalvisYT fair enough
you didn't mention that it only has 21 minutes of fuel max and can often run out of it
This was in the initial edit, but I decided to cut it out after doing some testing.
Due to the relatively slow fuel burn with the afterburner turned on, it does actually last for quite a while compared to some other jets around this BR.
More fuel would be better, but I wouldn't call this a shortcoming either.
it goes 1300 on first stage after burner on deck where your 21 minutes of fuel lasts longer than mig21's 30 minutes at the same speed
Tbh your right
The thing about Drakens is they should be played as ambush hunters - they have decent speed and a lot of missles, so you fly to the side low, engage enemies from the back (A-10s or Su-25s) make as many kills as you can. Then you fly back to base (because you have only 20 minutes of fuel), reload and dominate the end game with maneuverabilty and guns.
In other words; its a gimped F-104G.
@@WalvisYT uh no.
@@TheCodyLaxton If you play it like the original comment describes, it quite literaly is a gimped German F-104.
@@WalvisYT Until the end game like described at the end of the comment, the draken can maneuver. It def has a large learning curve, but it is my fav jet credit grinder hands down. You get used to the gun after some time
A thing people seem to forget is that the drakens are not fighters it's an interceptor
considering that sweden is getting the gripen its a good idea to pick this up and grind through to rank 8 to prepare
Copyright claim inc >:C
That tracer shell problem is no longer a problem
for me, I agree with some points, like how the gun is hard to use and flares are limited. I find it really overpowered at its br. I have not gotten a lot of uptiers for me so it helps the plane do better. I also like its flight model because at speeds of mach .85-.9, it holds it energy fairly well due to it compressing and it still turns super good at low speeds. I also like how it's fast enough to outrun a good amount of enemy's you face. also since it gets a lot of missile that are decent, I can use them at closer range if I cant hit my shots with my gun. this plane also suits my play style of flanking from the left or orbital striking people who are unaware. you definitely need to pick your fights with it and check your 6 a lot and put yourself into a good poistion. this is not as beginner friendly as the f5c is. my main issue is the low fuel it gets, forcing you to come back to base. though I do like how it can take a good amount of damage. my kdr with it as been 2.4 overall from all matches with it
yeah the Xs was by far my favorite grinding/flying expirienc in wt
Yep my strat is usually flank, climb, dive on unsuspecting a10 players
I love the absolute bangers that play to a new topic
" _no rwar, tigor_ " 🐅
My Suggestion : Pray for down-tier which you will get a lot , stay high in down tier and low in uptier , stay fast , don’t engage with Dogfight unless absolutely necessary , Remember you are one of the fastest jet in this BR, in up tier try to get into the rear of Hottest afterburner jets like F4 and Tornado , they can’t flare you missile and they can’t cut their afterburner easily (takes time) , take rocket pod for extra flare but it’s gets heavy ! remember you are not the main character with J35XS so pick your target carefully
issue is youre slower than f5c/e and those are spamed at this br
@@euanwarkentin7204u aint slower then the f5C
At least ya got tracers now!
I just want to say right now you’re an awesome creator! This video was not only informative but i laughed so much. The part where you mentioned it not having RWR had me almost in tears bro so true 😂
I find it to be quite a fun aircraft, imo all it’s short comings make it all the more fun when you really curb stomp the enemy, which this this is more than capable, however, you really need to know what your getting into before buying it in my opinion
Hot damn he actually uploaded
"12 countermeasures"
*cries in Su-22*
you got me with the cat
I am pretty sur the RB24j can be radar slaved and therefore is a bit better than the AIM-9P
This is true. Although with the XS specifically I'd slave them to the IRST
The f4e is very scary when in this plane
I bought it a while back and play with full controls in VR. The plane was absolutely hilarious with full controls and a HOTAS. Sure I crashed sometimes by flat spinning it, but overall it was a plane that could get on anyone's tail and stay there. Now it flies like a brick on rails. It's not that it can't turn, it just doesn't have any nose authority. No more cobras, no more crazy speed dumps, it's utterly boring to fly. It flies a lot like bombers did 10 years ago when they had placeholder flight models. No character at all. Currently my favorite is the Kfir Canard for premiums, it's a lot like the old J35XS but with only 2 missiles in exchange for a guaranteed base kill.
I actually Dog fought 2 of them at the same time in an F-5E at low ground and they both lost / got killed because they both missed 7 missles in total and both ran out of ammo.
Its just a very niche aircraft that requires TONS of skill.
as a person who just did 4 days of non stop grinding with the j35xs you need the load out with 6 missiles and with the extra pilons carry 2 rocket pods to act as flares and to go against ground targets
I have both the j35A and the xs I feel both planes are great if used correctly and the xs has been a great help in grinding through the Swedish tech tree and I personally love it it’s exactly my play style but I get where you come from. But I don’t regret it at all I got top tier Sweden in 3 weeks flat starting at rank 5 mid way, it has a great modifier more on rp and it’s awesome. Thanks for the vid keep going!!
this is hilarious, entertaining AND its resourceful this is what war thunder video should be.
This piece of art is a money printer! If you're not able to fly it properly don't blame it. You can out out maneuver nearly everything with it.
And the point with the flares, you can use them one by one.
they ruined it, now you have the manuverability of a hellcat moving at 90mph
im looking forward to buy this jet when it comes in sale at the birthday period, to finish my swedish tech tree and also maybe the gripen at the end of the year ? i do think its a great plane for 35bucks but not for 70
Personal favorite strat is using the IRST on it to make my missiles pull some absolute insane angles of the rails
Huh? This thing is great. Because the J35 can pull so much you can really get those missiles on point, and they are decently flare resistant. Even tho you only get 12 flares, you only need one pop to flare a missile. And Yes, the gun has no traces, but after a while, you get used to aim them. And finally, its so easy to get behind targets, and 10.7 matchmaker is absolutely lovely.
Because you don't get uptierd a lot, you dont really need flares. I really do recommend buying this if you want to grind Sweden.
bro the j35xs is easily the best tier for tier 10.7 in this game together with the f5e. 10.7 always gets full downtiers, in which many jets at that br have 2 missiles, missiles that do not pull many g's and are very prone to flares. the j35 is made for flying high, diving on already engaged targets, popping a missile from 3km going downhill, then rinsing and repeating until it's incredible load of 6 aim9j's are depleted. After that, with the state of f5c and su25k mains, it has at least 3-4 kills and rtb's, or decides to dogfight something, and out turns it instantly then has all day to hit its shot with it's difficult to use 30mm. then it rtb's. the thing is very solid walvis u just dont comprehend how to use it.
I think the j35xs is a really good jet in comparison to other premium jets within the same kind of br range. You get 6 good missiles, you get some counters, gun, and rockets. You also get tons of hardpoints, which the majority of premium jets do not have. The f5c get low G missiles, the av8 is barely an attacker, the A10 is slow, the mig 21 sks-k only gets 3 hardpoints and 1 being used only for either a gun OR countermeasures.
I think that points out how much of a scam most high rank premiums are rather than being a point in favor of the XS being a good purchase.
Instead of learning flare management learn missile management. Know what you can outpull and what you can’t to preserve your CM amount.
The gun is a great gun it is just wonkily-placed which is something to get used to.
Perfect premium where it’s not brain dead but not absolute garbage either. But also not the perfect premium as it is Finland’s most powerful fighter before the Hornet.
RB24J's are actually just AIM-9J's, Walv!s....
U dont even need flares in the draken aslong as u have a small ammount of speed cuz u out pull all missiles at ur br. And the techtree is better cuz 2 guns and lower br
Aim 9L says what
@@jayz7130 aim 9L dosent get a chance to get near me cuz i go at those planes from the back
_with the update search and destroy the flares drop individually and the gun got tracers a few months before that._
*_very W plane after that_*
It's also a flying wing, and as such has a MASSIVE profile. Like, you physically cannot miss it while it's turning.
> oh look, a J35
> turn
> turn
> try to shoot it before it hits the ground
Got this thing for the sales yesterday. I have fully researched and modified every single U.S. and Russian plane. Moving on to Sweden now. This plane kinda suffers in rb but my god... in sim battles... this thing FUCKS lmao. The irst makes it so damn easy to find people.
A new sweden grinder is most def needed.
I opened the Swedish tree with this complete plane.I have white in my hair right now.
J35A being absolutely dogshit : Am I a joke to you?
Honestly having played the J35A a lot recently, there was plenty of times I thought that if I had just a few flares and I could win a match even in full uptiers. I'm definetaly set on buying the J35XS, but I'm not shelving out $70 on any pixel plane, I'm gonna wait until it goes on sale and then buy it.
The J35A is a lot more fun in every regard, except for the lack of flares. If it did get flares it would be my favorite 9.7 in the game.
buy it, its the most fun Ive had playing war thunder in a while, climb to 20-30k feet, then drop down behind enemies, once ur behind them, they can't really do much.
@@BufferThunder slot in on their 6 and send them to missile town
I don't think the 70 dollar premiums are ever gonna go on sale
It honestly just excels at capitalizing on low skill enemies (most at the br), which is enough when you're trying to get through a tech tree. I can't complain too much about the plane that get's me almost a 7kd while not requiring much effort on my part. Though I would definitely not recommend buying it if you're doing anything other than grinding, it's just repetitive
I think this sums it up pretty well. My experience in the XS was very similair.
i recently got the j35XS and i totally love it, im really eager to finish the swedish tree and ive found it to really work on flanks and using the rockets to get some more rp from bases also helps
Please do a review on the Mig21 Lazur
Where does the Mirage F1C prem fall in that tier list?
This jet is useless if your enemy has even a few braincells.
Good video and good points! Thanks to you I will be waiting J-35xs to get in sale, even though its hard because I'm finnish (Finnish bias)
recently opened 2 cases and got a coupon and sold it, meaning i suddenly had 220GJN, so i bought this thing. havent played much yet so its a shame to see its not that good of a plane. as a (dedicated, fuck you sweden's awesome...) sweden player who wouldn't make the most of premium account time, this is really the only option i had for a worthwhile purchase.
im so sad they changed the flight model of these planes it was the whole reason I went down the Swedish techtree
Hi, can you make a new video about this ,,plane" after the nerfs?
TLDR: lmao it's bad
yeah this is really shit. No RWR, almost no CM, really shitty missles and u cant just take rocket pods and rocket bases anymore and have fun fighing the F14
Finally someone that calls out the shortcomings of the overhyped aircraft. Really enjoyed your differing opinion on the german sea hawk too. And to be honest I don´t think the rb 24 are that good either, just "ok".
Underrated channel.
Would love to see this style of video for the Kfir Canard.
You mention at 8:57 that this jet isnt the best at anything, however I would like to point out the F4S, which you said we should buy, isnt the best at anything either. Very far from it. Its flight performance is mediocre, its radar is not the best, and it doesn't have an incredibly high speed. To add insult to injury, it sits at BR 11.3, which, with experience from the f4j, always gets 12.0 matches. always. The j35xs however, always gets downtiers. always. same with the f5e. Honestly, after watching some of your gameplay, i think i can diagnose a skill issue.
A great premium doesn't need to be the best at anything; it needs to offer great value, especially if you are paying 70 USD.
The F-4S offers:
- amazing weapons for 11.3
- a good radar for 11.3
- amazing versatility
- massive potential game impact
- the ability to research a worthwhile tech tree
- an overall fun and ergonomic experience
- sub-par flight performance
- does okay in uptiers
The J-35XS offers:
- a great quantity of missiles for 10.7
- massive potential game impact
- sub-par flight performance
- no RWR, realistically no chaff
- does absolutely not do okay in uptiers (god forbid this plane starts seeing exclusively 11.7 games at some point, rip your investment)
I hope this answers your question.
@@WalvisYT The lack of usable chaff and rwr doesnt really matter as at 10.0-9.7 you wont see any usable radar missiles that you cant just dodge. I do not agree with the subpar flight performance however, as that is just silly, and you will burn clueless f5's and mig's in a turn fight, at least the first turn. ass gun tho so cant dogfight reliably over 0.5km. I do agree that swedish air, unless u are trying to get CAS for swedish ground, is not worthwhile at all as other nations just do what sweden does but better. That said, i enjoy your content, keep it up.
@@WalvisYT The thing is tho, is that 11.7 games aren't common anymore, if you're playing 11.7, you really just playing 12.0, so the J35xs really isn't ever going to get uptiers to 11.7 a lot, and the radar missiles you do face, you just fly horizontal to the missile then pull up at the last second, which is extremely easy to do in a plane as manoeuvrable as the j35
@@WalvisYT also the J35xs is must faster than the f-4s on the deck, and turns much better then it (I would know because I own both planes)
@@supersolleks5518 At 10.7 having no chaff or RWR is horrable. F-4E or F-8E can be a huge threat.
XS' flight performance just isn't on par with the likes of other select 10.7's, like the F-5E. Sure, its still an okay fighter, but its not anywhere near apex level.
As for your comment regarding the F-4S; see my original reply. I'm not saying the F-4S has better flight performance.
Hope this helps. :)
Can you revisit the A5-C? It's definitely experinced a meta shift, but I'd argue it's still one of the best 10.0's out there, a more refined missile bus than the A-10 and SU-25 :3, especially considering the underwhelming J-7D that china gets as an rank 7 prem
Hey, will you do videos on the french tech tree ? Cause i feel like thers pretty good planes there
Can you do the East German Mig 21 Lazur? pleaseee
I got it as a gift so cind of obligated to use it. I masterd it and get consistent 3 to 5 kill games. If u master the cannon and the missile use its a f@cking monster aspesialy at premium against newer players.
I’m dead set on grinding Sweden for the jas39 gripen so ima get it when the winter sales releases
nah this thing is a beastm flares have never been a problem for me, its so good unless you have a skill issue
This jet would be great if I didn’t feel like I had the fuel economy of a f450 redlining it
The J35excessive
I like coming across this jet in the F-5E. A lot of the time I swoop in from above players just below contrail height with radar off, so they never see me coming. They're pretty scary if they get right behind you tho, bc they can maneuver better than you at low speeds, at the cost of bleeding a lot of speed. In my experience, most players in this jet are the equivalent of most F-5C players. Generally unaware and struggle in a dogfight. It is always fun when you get a skilled pilot in one tho. Good dogfights are why I play the game.
Sidenote: I feel like a lot of people see 6 missiles and go "OOH MISSILES" when they buy this jet. I get it, but whenever I get a new jet I look up reviews and such to get a good idea of it's strengths and weaknesses, and I feel like a lot of people just don't do that. I'll even look at videos of jets I normally fight to get a good idea of what they're best and worst at too.
Well about the gun: it should get the radar lead indicator soon.
About the fuel: it still lacks its drop tank.
The flight model change really sucks and destroys the Draken's speciality in unstable flying.
You forgor one thing though: it has an IRST which you can use to sling missiles more effectively.
Skill issue
All you gotta do is boom and zoom and you can’t basically ignore missles since you’ll be too high up
So just play it like a worse F-104G?
This plane is some of the most fun ive had in this game in years this and the finish mig 21 bis, the low flares can be limiting if you dont play right, do put yourself in a position to get missiled, normally it only takes one flare pop per missile, keep your speed up, come from above, missile and climb again, i normally get 3-6 kills per game in that jer, it is really really fun if you play smart
Also dont get in turn fights with f5e you will get your ass beat, you turn fight basically everything else
im railing f5s on the draken in a turnfight easily most of the time
Sure you only get 1 gun, but the ADEN is amazing, it 1 shots, and I use stealth belts using this gun on all planes anyways :)
Aidens are some of the worst guns in the game at that BR, especially if you cant see the damn rounds. Played a large number of games in this thing after getting it for 30 days and the gun was a nightmare to use. Sometimes did damage sometimes did nothing. That and missiles are so easy to flare.
Can you do a video about ww2 fighters
You put the mig-23ml below the kfir and f4s? Its one of the most op premiums to ever be added. I have it and used it to grind the mig29 and i frequently found myself winning dogfights against f16s and mig29s in it. Not to mention the 2 blatantly overpowered radar missiles.
You missed a thing
It has IRST which helps the missiles lock better and keep a better lock
I didn't feel like talking about it in this video.
In the future I will make a more ramble style video where I just talking over / about one specific match.
you gotta use sim keyboard controls to get that J-35 zestyness back, I don't fly the J-35xs though, I only have the D so it could be different
Its perfect for ambushes where you drop behind your victim, nimble enough to dictate the dogfight and powerful enough to boost away ehen overwhelmed.
The flares are great for short engagements, they are high caliber flares after all.
The flight model change happened not only to the XS, it happened to all delta shaped aircrafts.
Maybe its just my particular playstyle but it works really well and i love the XS to bits. The gun really is garbage, tho.
can you do a review about the F-4J
There already is an F-4S review on my channel.
Generally agreed to this video, one thing u ddint mention its that this plane is a very very good trainer for the ja37c and the ja37d. Ive basially grinded whole air sweden with only this thing.
That "Mediocre" Jet is another in the long list of jets that are a complete pain in the ass to fight against. (F-105 main)
Anything with 18G+ missiles is a pain in the ass to fight against while using the F-105.
Honestly I love the j35xs. I’m having lots of fun and the gun is not an issue anymore as I got used to it. As well the flares are more than enough as I barley use then and survive almost all the time and get at least 3 air kills.
5:48 gee I wonder who that is at the bottom 🫠
Idk if i should get this, the f1c 200 or the brit phantom
If you are doubting between those three options, 100% get the J-35XS. The other aren't worth it, even at half the price. Keep in mind that in two weeks there will likely be sales going on.
@@WalvisYT Yes that's why i'm asking as i can cop one and 180 days of premium for 55 dollars or even a tank too for 85 but thx for the reply :)
What are you on about? the XS is amazing when it sees its own tier
FINLAND MENTIONED PERKELE!!!!
Would it be to OP in 10.0 where there are no F14 in every game?
Its literally Swedens best option for grinding.
Why is the mig19S the same BR as the shenyang F5?
Dory-toe looking jet
make a new vidio on this plane because it can now deply 1 flare att a time and it has trasers
I have the Su22M3 squadron and is kinda like this, 12 flares, 6 R60s but... is an atack aircraft, so is nice to go for bases but even with the variable swept wings is not very agile, still, at 10.7 you can climb to the exosphere and drop the missiles to get easy kills (and the 300 shots from the 30mm cannons are quite good)
The German tech tree version has like 64 flares I think so a bit better
That plane is total dogshite
The last thing about the aircraft not being good for beginners is honestly what i think about the swedish tech tree as a whole, it has some good things like the J35D and the CV90s but alot of its vehicles have quirks and shortfalls that you need to be well aware of.
Can you review the French premium pls?
I might, depends a bit on how long my next 3 vids take.
They fixed real shatter, make a video again bout that lmao
with the summer sale(meaning my F-15A at 12.3 gets downteired to 11.3 often) and the new update pushing 12.0-12.7 into 13.0 as well, somehow I've versed the J-35XS in a few games(12.3 F-15 with 7Ms and 9Ms against a 10.7 Dorito with RB24Js) (god they need to fix the matchmaker)
Kfir Canard Video Next? I noticed you rated it above the Goofy Finnish Dorito and the Kfir Canard is a plane that i think is a real hidden gem. I regretted buying it until i had played about 20 matches in it and learned how to properly fly it. Now that i have learned to use it i have come to really enjoy flying it and i used it to grind the Netz.
2nd Question. Given how you showcased multiple tier list images/slides in this video i was wondering if you had given any thought to doing a tier list video for the Rank 6-7/BR 9.7 - 10.7 Premiums? Or for all the planes in the Fox 2 Meta at 9.7 - 10.7? I know its outside the scope of your normal videos but i think that it would make for great content, especially if you did it round table style with Joob, Seek, Lee and Jaek all actively providing input. I imagine some pretty funny banter would come out of that discussion.
Kfir Canard may or may not be next. No promises. But yes, I have been really enjoying the Canard.
Regarding Q2; This is a good idea. I might steal it.
Also why did you go from rating it B tier to C tier in the same video lol
So glad I don’t have $70 to spend on pixels
First reason not to get, is it’s £70! Ridiculous prices per top tier planes from Gaijin, when they age & date verily poorly with now they want aaa game price per prem plane ! gaijin are high on there own smoke in this world. Soon £100 is coming - they got so greedy many are leaving in droves if they keep them all £30 max they sell many more more but gaijin keep up screwing your player base in most things.
Cool vid none the less 🤜
Any tips for j35xs and why i always get 1kill and die is it normal or not and why people dont use irst on this thing (i need tip please give some tip and i dont now why most of the time i can out maneuver su25 f5c ) i always ended up getting 1or 2 kill and die ) and how many kills do you get most of the time
Finally back 🎉
Cannot be worse than the ADTW
Tbh when using my J35A (cant buy it anymore sadly) the guns feel super good if you can get used to the lack of tracers. They don't feel that affected by realshatter and hit hard, super reliable guns from my experience. I haven't played the J35XS though but the fact that it gets only 1 of them probably is a huge throwoff, just like when I unlocked my strike viggen (10.3 one), the single wing mounted pod is horrible, unless you wanna sacrifice having no flares for 2 pods :).
I can't agree too much with this video for the fundamental reason that I believe the J35XS is actually good.
- You made no mention of the IRST and the plane's insane ability to sneak up on those unsuspecting.
- The energy retention of the aircraft, when you know how to manage your turn, is very good as far as deltas go and much better than the Viggen, comes close to rivaling that of the Mirage 2000C series.
- Gun placement can just be mitigated with practice.
- Stop panic popping your flares whenever you see a missile coming. This J35 runs pretty cool. Pop one and hide your afterburner.
- Don't worry about RWR if you're after situational awareness. Fly low and mitigate an potential axis of attack. If you suspect a plane is locking you with SARH missile, learn how to fly the notch and force them to overshoot.
- Don't charge into unwinnable situations (duh). This plane is excellent at dealing with individuals who try to flank and go wide. Forcing yourself into unwinnable situations (like several F-5s at once) WILL get you killed, no matter what plane you fly. Learn to use your radar, its pretty decent and will give you an idea of what you're up against.
TLDR of your comment is: the J-35XS is handicapped, but not unplayable.
This is essentially exactly what I state as well.