BMW M4 vs Formula 4 Racecar
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2016
- I'm at Brands Hatch to have a go in a Formula 4 open-wheel, single-seat racecar, and before that it's some warm up laps in the BMW M4, but how do they compare?
There's no question the M4 is the 'faster' with 450hp to the 185hp of the F4 car, but when you factor in the aerodynamics, the grip levels, and the experience, how do they stack up?
The day is part of MSV's Experience Days, you can see more at: www.msvdrivinggifts.com
Thanks for watching, Tim
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Drove so slow it looked like a funeral convoy
good one!
F4
Easily Triggered right. only shmee would drive slow in a race car lol
delete.
@A Google User what f1 race cars? 😂
You looked like a Sunday driver out there on the track....lol!!!
Might look like that, did not feel like that ;)
I believe you for sure. Its a total different feeling behind the wheel..
Driving like a granny.
I expected an actual race between an M4 and a Formula 4.
Tuddec that's what you call clickbait welcome to the internet(;
I did this experience earlier this year and absolutely loved it! The instructors were fantastic and really bought the Racing Driver out in me. Although expensive, I'd do it again and again
Do they add a speed a limit on the F4 ? Or do they let you drive to the very edge
I can't stop watching your tongue when you speak
Omg I just cannot get how frequently you do all kinds of different cool car stuff - I´m getting a bit out breath by this pace, I guess.. Awesome job, Tim! You made my day yet again!
How awesome was this! Looks like you had another memorable experience. Thanks for sharing it with us!
Tim, what a great experience to drive in a true race car. thanks for taking us along for the ride. Cheers!
awsome video as always! keep up the work shmee! :D
driving pretty slow compared to archie
Two times Le Mans driver vs Amateur racing car driver... What did you expect? ;)
Lol
Hendrik Oostenenk Archie was like flat flat flat !
Another great experience Shmee. I enjoyed it.
Did this last month (F4 Master Experience). Did a 55.78. (Average speed ~ 78mph). So while they arnt crazy fast, theres nothing quite like driving a single seater. Especially if you have not done it before.
If you have any questions about this experience ill do my best to answer.
You're about 10 seconds off the pace lmao
@@CaptJofaz not in one of those? where can i find times of other people for that car? Its no where near as quick as a derestricted F4 car.
Amazing video Tim love your work
Love your videos Tim! Just an idea for you to hear out, have you thought of getting a camera/actioncam stabelizer? It truly helps when you are giving us a awesome shot of you driving! But all n all, great video! KEEP IT UP :D Cheers!
Awesome day mate! Lots of fun 👌🏻👌🏻
Archie Hamilton Racing Archie's vid was so much better
Looks cool Shmee, great video
It's easy without rain. #MaxVerstappen
Didnt Archie Hamilton just do this and also make a video on it?
And a better one in my opinion. Didn't fall asleep during Archie's video
Yup, Archie was also there :)
Use to say in the hotel there often when in my early 20s when I use to contract around greater London. Use to love finishing early and just sitting in the stands on open days etc. Always fun.
0:14 So that's what a clear british sky looks. Always wondered. Quite grey, don't you think? ;)
All the gear and no idea. How does this guy make a living talking about cars? I'm not even mad... I'm impressed!
Tim, bet it was a fantastic experience , I wish I was young and healthy and could do stuff like this. Thanks for filming and sharing this, I envy you. That's not saying you don't deserve these experiences or anything like that. I'm saying I envy you but am very glad you film and share this stuff. Thank you.
So cool Shmee! Your videos entertain me so much. Wish I could do the same things as you do! Regards,
nice vid Tim or shmee150
Really cool to see a racing driver perspective on Archie's and your (amateur racing) driver perspective here!
Those F4 cars redline was about 5k very low and I bet more like 150bhp. Looks restricted.
Are those your standards for a clear sky? Lol poor British weather, but a very unique video. Loved it Tim!
FANTASTIC !
I definitely think you need some custom colour/graphics scheme on the helmet Tim, something to go with the custom race suit. I'm thinking some in... blue maybe! 😊
Que vídeo bom !!! Muito bonita essas M4 com pintura de corrida
Awesome video! Love BMW! Definitely one of my favorite automakers.
Hey Tim. Have you ever reviewed a BAC Mono, Aerial Atom or Zenos before?
Yes, only not the Atom
Though choices! Why not best of both worlds with a BAC Mono?
Oh yes please, great little car
great experience for sure. love the f1 cars
living it up chap,
I went to do Lotus driving academy after seeing Tim do that and now I guess I have to do this
The elevation changes in brands hatch seem to be crazy, that track scares me, it really does, especially the main course, but the smaller Indy lap that we see in this video has a lot of it too.
Shmee I really really hope the next video is about the HYPER GT
wow. awesome. I know that racetrack. It is one of my least favourite track from Grid Autosport though.. But still awesome that you are able to drive there! :D
it just shows how a proper race car works,I mean 'only 180 odd bhp' in a road car on that track would be very normal and slow,however chuck it into a car designed to do one thing and bingo you get the feeling for just how low weight,aero and race suspension and race tires come together to be better than the sum of its parts.
How does the straight line acceleration compare in actual figures? Looks fun indeed..I think all track drivers should consider taking cordyceps for their sharpest reaction and concentration..Stay safe and fast.
a go pro 5 would be good for the view, the camera makes it smoother but love this anyways 😁
Why aren't you buying a car like that F4 car? Its nice to have and probably you can store it at a track garage or something!
Looked like fun :)
Shmee say he has fun driving slowly...really...wow!
Awesome just awesome. Bucket list, check.
Hey Shmee, when are you coming to Brazil? I had a great time during the F1 race this weekend. You shoulda been here!
Nothing planned at this moment
Heeeey Brasil is cool
Okay! If you include Brazil in you plans let me know! I can give you a full on tour around here!
Yes yes Tim... you do need to push it just a bit more..... perhaps 10 x more
But thanks for sharing
Maybe get a BAC Mono, or an Ariel Atom, that would be cool as a track weapon ;)
Edward Van. so he can drive them at 17mph around the track?
Nope at decent speed as I did last year... Tricky car that BAC ;)
Shmee, you look a little despondent at 10.00?
at six-years at youtube, and right now the formel cars... so when is the time for... the superlicense???? 😱
I started watching this yesterday it’s 3:08 this bro has to speed up
I have to wonder, if Archie were driving, for example, how the lap times would compare between the two cars.
Some Say, When He Sleeps, He Revs His Vehicles, And That He Always Brings A Bag Full Of Grenades.. Just In Case A Prius Come By.. But All We Know Is...
*HE'S THE SHMIG!!!!*
Its actually quite nice Also looks quite comfy!.
What's with the odd camera footage Tim! Made me feel queasy
So when's the F1 drive happening?
No idea, let's aim to do it next year :D
Its impossible to drive a F1 car slow, it will just stall.
with Tim driving like a granny i don't think he will be driving a F1 car any time soon.
True I was just about to say that I remember Hamster stalling the F1 car multiple times and lets be honest Hamster is a way better driver than Shmee
Never say never ;)
It doesn't matter what driving skills you have, if you got enough money
shmee were can i buy a jacket like yours from ford ? i just love it
No idea, try the online stores from Ford. I got mine at Le Mans this year.
Thank you a lot. i will check it . Good luck to you and good luck to your amazing work.
Shmee 'shortshift' 150
James Edwards I KNOW YEAH 🙄
You could hear the shortshift on every gear, but watching the shift lights it's obviously detuned that way for the experience.
Are u going to goodwood this year?
Goodwood already happened this year, I will definitely be there next year :)
Shmee150 awesome I'm going to for the first time too.
That first corner has killed me so many times in Grid Autosport. But I noticed that there is a huge part of the track missing in real life. Or at least it looks like it.
That is the Indy layout for Brands, the GP is the longer layout which is what you were driving in the game.
Shows how good Archie Hamilton drives. He was flatout in turn 1 and 4. :)
What on earth is your intro music???
A song someone made for me specifically. It has no name.
But I really like it 😕😁
These F4's aren't the same specification as the BRDC (British) F4's that raced a few years ago. Similar in every way, apart from these f4's have engine limiters and grooved tires on.
Yup they do...
Well that video definitely did not live up to expectation..
Have you bought a McLaren BP23? It´s going to increase in value a lot.
You don't just "buy it", you get invited to buy it. I'm not sure if he could buy one even if he got invited because it'll be very expensive. The P14 is more interesting.
Maybe he´s got more money than we think ;) and he has had every modern McLaren except the P1 and 650s coupe, so maybe he got an offer to buy one.
Excellent!The power to weight ratio must be very similar of these two cars.The F4 in the hands of an experienced driver must be a lot faster around the track.Do you know how much faster?
PS.That ugly back box on the F4 is probably taken from...a mondeo hahaha
what was better the formule E or this?
but how expansive is it to buy a F4 or F3 car?
Formula E is gay af
Easily Triggered I know but I want to know wich one is faster
Those Formula 4's seem pathetically slow in a straight line...
They are for general public driving experiences, so they are turned down a lot! RPM etc.
They're still pretty slow in race trim haha
You drove so slowly the tires were colder when they come back to the pit than when you left the pit.
You can see my smile is ridiculous
- Shmee, 2016, wearing a helmet
Petro Wolke he said if you could smart arse lol
Wish F1 still raced at Brands.........................
Has Shmee passed a car yet in any of his track videos? I mean push it a bit mate.
i think you should buy one and participate in races
Driving Miss Daisy would have been a better title
Shame it’s not on the big track. Would be much better and on slicks.
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Twin Turbskis on the M4 , but NO bald eagles
His face does not look nearly as silly as i thought it would in an open face helmet.
Must be scary in that situation especially in those conditions.
Sunny and clear?? You need a new lens filter
Tim, what is your dream car?
MM Animations I'll answer for him. McLaren P1 (probably) but a bit out of his price range.
The New 'Captain SLOW'
good grief tim ..... could you have gone any slower in the F4 ???? were you rev limited or something ??? maybe 1500rpm haha
Single seater looks more fun than saloon car
This is unwatchable.....
Ohhh man you was super slow,if Mr JWW was there,we will not take it that easy !
Do you have to pay
for riding a formula 4 ?
why the fuck are there cones on the racing line?? left side 8:04
Its like a GrownUp VIP GoKart
You didn't were a neck brace
O no white BMW shmee don't die
Jason Holzman farghini!
"the top speed is not necessarily quick in a straight line..." come on man, you were shifting too soon and it looks like not even full throttle...
Why do those f4 cars have road tires? I imagine slicks would improve it dramatically.
Wesley Green because these aren't true racing cars. These have been detuned massively to allow the public to try out and have a taste of driving a racing car. Most people going on experience days will not get anywhere near as much grip on racing tyres as they will not push hard enough to make them work, especially in winter. For the sake of the drivers and the driving school, road tyres are a far better idea as the cars aren't as hard to drive, aren't as likely to crash, and they don't need to change wheels and tyres anywhere near as often
MrVoss94 thanks for the informative reply, makes sense
Wesley Green no problem. Actually after another look, they look like wets rather than road tyres but the same largely applies. They're probably quite a hard compound it they'd wear out in 3 laps
It won't make that big of a difference for someone who never drove a F4 car before. Those slicks are made to push the most out of the car and is only a big advantage if you know the car. The people who drive these on trackdays have very little experience and it was quite damp on the track. It makes more sense.
well, not really. less grippy when cold, louder, harder to steer. Street tyres have a way bigger temperature window, that's why it makes sense to take them. As mentioned rain tyres would wear down in a couple of laps.
What was going on with my the cameras
It's crazy that these race cars use honda civic LX engines 😂
is there a glitch in the Matrix?!
Farshad would be horrified lol
Was u following a SAFTEY car ?