I would SCRAP these 5 CLUBS if you want MUCH better golf!
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- Why do we make golf harder than it needs to be? it's time we go rid and scrapped a few clubs out of your golf bag in my opinion... First lets talk driver? what driver is best? What shaft length is best for driver? Then wedges? Putter? fairway woods and do we need to carry a full bag of irons or is it a total waste of money?
My advice to you is I would SCRAP these 5 CLUBS if you want MUCH better golf! and get these alternatives in the bag!
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*Which 5 clubs will you be taking out the bag?*
The only 1 I have in the bag is a 60° and its staying..... only used inside 50 yards and typically when short sided, have space in the bag for it and it's the sensible choice, 6 iron I've hot a more forgiving head on then go hybrids/fairway, LAB DF3 putter 5 wood and mini driver 😎🏌♂️😎
I'm pretty much set. I dropped 3w for another driver awhile ago, I've pretty much dropped the 60° since then too.
I currently go d1,d2, 17°hy-wood, 5w lofted up to 20°, 20° hybrid, 5 hybrid, 6-AW, 56°. I would love to set up something to get that top end of the bag a little more figured out, but I'd most likely end up with 13 clubs then, or I'd bring back my 60°.
I will be changing my Seemore putter for a zero torque model. That it, my 3 wood is 5 wood length and 16 degrees. Plus 7 iron is already my longest iron!
What is a replacement for my 6 iron? I have a 25° hybrid instead of 5 iron but I've never seen, say, a 28°?
@@michaelbeaufoy483 I have a Ping 30 degree 6 hybrid and a 34 degree 7 hybrid.
My driver is a 3W. It is an older head, senior shaft, 42". (I do not miss the driver). I play and hit low profile woods very well. They are also shorter progressing down from the 3W. (5W, 7W, 9W, 11W). Irons are 7-PW, re-shafted Ping Zing 2 with senior shafts, 2 degrees flat, -1.5 of standard shaft length. I have three wedges, 52 wide sole Tour Edge, and a 56 Malby Sand Slider and 60 degree Maltby Lob wedge. The fat soles are easy to get great results from. Yes, I have a mallet putter. I am not tall. Once I figured out I hit the ball better with shorter clubs, I changed, decades ago. I get a lot of guff from people because I do not grip it and rip it 250yds all over the place. I plink it down the fairway. Eliminate the out of bounds, sand traps, and water, the score improves. Also, I play the old man tees. I have NOTHING to prove. Golf is a game to me. I try to have fun.
I, too, am perfectly happy with the 3W off the tee. Less dispersion, more confidence than with Mr. D. I swapped out all my fairway woods and irons with a hybrid set from ELEVEN golf. Best decision I've ever made in golf. Alex reviewed them most favorably, and I took his advice. Lots more confidence and more fun!
@@tomanderson1129 Very good! I love this. Having better golf is more fun.
I recently found out that I hit my 3w farther than I hit my driver. Oh, and straighter.
I’m 64 and play with a 72, 82,83 yr old.
The oldest in the party o am trying to get to play off the forward tees. His club head speed / swing length is way down as age is catching up with him. He still hits it ok but off the yellows is struggling to reach the fairway at times.
My bag D, 3W 3H, 4-PW, 59/54/58 W. And a blade putter guess Alex would be in tears. 😁
Out of that selection the 4i and 3H are the two clubs that I am
Inconsistent with and actually prefer the 4i to the 3H.
Have always played a Blade putter but it has a nice big grip on it. That’s not the weakest part of my game for sure
Yep. agree 100% I stopped carrying a 3 wood years ago. My 5 wood is a weapon. Fairway finder. Enough distance. Hmm? My putter arc is much better with a blade. I do have a SS grip on it. Hybrids are good. I actually carry 5-6 iron and 5 hybrid. Shorter driver shaft is a must. Mine is 44.5, I hit center face more and have gained distance. Can control the club more too. Same feeling as 5 wood. Carry gap wedge and 56 now only. It works.
Me in the garage now with clubs all over the floor mumbling about Alex’s video😂😂😢😢
Alex only after comparing 3 vs 5 wood on a trackman did I finally take take your advice and remove the 3 wood out of my bag😂. My putter I switched from a Scotty newport 2 to a cobra supernova mallet what a game changer. Shortened my driver to a 45inch and hitting the center much more often. The only Club I'll fight you on is my 60° wedge I just can't seem to get it out of my bag😅 about once every two rounds I need to use it. Really good advice for golfers thank you sir
I already cut my driver down to 42" so I can keep it in the middle. And I got rid of my 55 degree sand wedge and am using my Gap 50 degree and I added a 5 hybrid - 25 degree and 6 hybrid 28 degree to my arsenal. I guess you can say that my hybrids are my favorite clubs. I have the ability to hit straight with the 7 iron and on to the wedges and I mainly use my 5 and 6 iron for low shots under trees. Partially why I love this game of golf is that you have all of these weapons to accomplish whatever task you need and its fun experimenting. I'm in my 70's and I agree that you can have more fun by selecting the right clubs and club length for your game. Thanks for putting this up!
It’s odd but I putt much petter with a blade putter!
Same here.
It's not odd. They tested years ago. From 0 to 5 ft, blade is better by a bit, from 5 to 10 ft mallet is better by a smidgen. From 10 to who knows, blade is better hands down.
Its way easier to keep a blade putter on line compared to a mallet putter because of the straight lines front and back. As far as putter grips the pistol grip is the best and nobody will convince be otherwise. I have used multiple super stroke grips always return to my winn pistol grip
Absolutely agree, I also miss days the driver heads were smaller to be completely honest…
@@jameswhite4102 yeah if you at the softball home run derby guys that all swing 10-11 inch barrel bats when the regular players swing 13 1/2 inch barrels. I would buy a driver loft 3 wood right now of I could find one.
Blade putters are toe hang balanced which REQUIRES rotation through the stroke. Face balanced mallet putters don’t and perform much better even with a baby arc.
carry driver, 3 wood and 5 wood. hit them far better than my irons. thinking about getting a 7 wood to get rid of the 5 iron
This exactly!!!
There's no way you're getting my 3 wood! It's the most versatile club in my bag. I can hit it with plenty of height and length; or hit a 180 yard stinger, 20 inches of the ground. Off the deck in the fairway or in the first cut easily.
How wonderfully comforting. I’ve done 3 of the 5 and am currently talking to a club fitter about my driver and wedges. I would also recommend getting fitted for the right ball. I’m not a big hitter, and play off an index of 13.1, but I was amazed at how much distance is lost between the worst and best fitting ball.
3W is like my wife..only in death do we part
Why would I dump the longest fairway club in my bag? Do you know that in mechanical driving tests that a 3w will go father than a 5w even down to a 60 MPH swing. Same is true for a 4 or 5 iron over shorter clubs. Sorry that you can't hit them. Guess you need to practice more. BTW. You should be able to sink more putts with an expensive DF3 putter. My advice, if you can hit them, play them. If you can't, take it out of the bag until you can.
I 100% agree and have done exactly this minus the removal of my wedges. And when I went to my new club set I immediately dropped strokes and have even dipped into the high 70’s twice and am now a 9.7hc.
My clubs
Driver
5W
7w
4h
6h
9h
7i
8i
Pw
Aw
52
56
60
Putter
I agree with almost everything said here. In fact last night I traded in my 3 wood for a ping g430 max 5 wood.. I recently shortened my driver an inch and the results are magnificent. I replaced my 5 iron with a 7 wood but I'm keeping my 6 iron. I haven't yet thought of getting a bigger grip on my mallet putter but I will definitely consider it. And I absolutely will not get rid of my wedges. In fact they are Callaway CB wedges 52,56 and 60. I have uses for all of them and they will stay.
I converted my 3W to my version of a mini driver by changing the loft collar to 13.5 degrees and setting it up as a driver for those rare days when my driver isn’t working for me. But my driver is still 20+ yards longer when it is and that is hard to ignore. I did lose the 5W and put a 7W in the bag as it gaps nicely to my 4H. I also recently changed back from a 6H to a 6i and am loving that change. Much better dispersion and predictability (and stopping power) with no interruption to the rest of the clubs’ gapping in my bag.
Great video! I’ve recently gone to a minimalist bag setup and love it. Less clubs means less indecision.
Driver - Taylormade Original One 13.5*
FW - Taylormade Sim2 18*
Hyb- Taylormade RBZ 25*
Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 HM 8-PW
SW- Cleveland CBX Zipcore 56*
Putter- Odyssey Oworks Versa #1
8 clubs total. Have played some of my best rounds so far. I also moved from white tees to gold. It’s been a lot better on my back.
Agree with most, but putter is just not true. I tried for years to use these “easier” to hit on line, never good for pace control. Switched to blade 5-6 seasons ago never looked back.
Solid advice. 3w is definitely a club i struggle with off the turf. I primarily only use it off the tee when driver is too much club or I need to play more of a draw since the 3w is easier for me to turn over.
I don't own or have access to any launch monitor devices, but I would say my 5w and 3w carry distances are about the same. 3w just tends to roll out a little more.
Thx for sharing your thought, these are things i definitely need to consider.
Agree on everything but the 60 degree. But that's because I got myself a delicate 58 degree with extremely low bounce, and while super effective from bunkers for my shallow swing, I noticed it being a bit dodgy/diggy in horrid deep rough lies. Therefore I also carry a CBX2 full face 'frying pan'. It positively cuts through any flora the course throws at you except trees. Agreed: For emergencies only. If there's a spare place in the bag, why not.
1- I grip down 1.5" plus on my nominal 45.25" driver. Probably an inch on the 3w.
2- I prefer HyWood to 5w most of the time.
3- Because of the new 9w, both 5i and 4h could well go out.
4- 6i and 5h have a decent competition. 6i slightly leading at the moment.
5- I seem to be able to do everything short with no more than 52 degrees.
6- It's nice to have another alternative if you get into a slump with a club.
Replaced 3 wood with 5 wood a while ago and its been much better. Using 54 and 58 instead of 56 and 60, its been better too. Always prefered a mallet putter to a blade putter. Ive been wanting to switch to a smaller driver shaft for a long time, but have yet to do so, but I've been gradually impolroving with my driver regardless.
Where this video really got me though, was the 5i and 6i. I've been considering removing them from the bag and just have not been able to make myself okay with it, but maybe its time.
I agree I should have just bought the 5 wood I use it more than the three but, too much money invested in the 3 to get rid of it. I already took out my 5&6 iron , and replaced them with hybrids. When I got fitted for my driver I hit the 12.5 farther than the 10.5 . I have a very slow swing at 65. I use my SW more than my P, I do have a 60° for sand because I am comfortable with it.
Too general in your recommendations. Maybe you should encourage players to TRY doing these things and see how it works, instead of tellling them to bin these 5 clubs. Personally, I like carrying 3 woods, and I do hit my 3-wood farther than my 5-wood. I agree that mid-to-high handicappers don't hit their long irons that well, but every once in a while I do hit a good 5- or 6-iron. And I TOTALLY disagree with you on the 60° Wedge. That is one of my favorite clubs, I have confidence in it and hit it very well. Maybe it comes down to what kind of clubs people are using. For years I used clone clubs and did okay with them. But since 2022 I have been hitting better-engineered clubs that are forgiving. My Cobra woods hit straighter and longer than my old clone woods, and these are the LTDx models. My Cleveland Zip Core Wedges are great clubs that I hit well consistently, unlike the old clone models. And I use 52°, 56°, and 60° lofts. Just one man's opinion.
Agree with using CB style wedges, game the Callaway CB (original model) and its changed my short game. Was using a 50 and 56 (to simplify my wedge choices) but struggled a lot with my bunker game and reintroduced the 60 purely for bunker shots and very very tight lobs over bunkers/hazards. 60 is useful for me but only if I restrict it to exact scenarios.
I took my 3w out of the bag almost a year ago. Didn't like it, never hit it. Replaced my 5i with a 5 hybrid a few weeks ago. Flies higher and goes farther. So I have a 3, 4, and 5 hybrids. I just got a 42" 4w(16.5°) hoping it fills the gap between 3hy(215 carry) and driver(250 carry). I'm taking it to the range today looking for 235ish off the tee 230ish off the deck. Trying what I can to make golf easier and fulfill my dream of being a single digit HC.
I definitely agree with all these club changes. I swapped out my 60 degree blade style wedge for a 58 degree wide sole wedge and love it. Also love the 5W and 7W over the 3 wood and driver. Mini-driver is a bit out of my price point for now but I hit the 5W more consistently and nearly the same distance so I mostly focus on hitting better with that club . I also ordered up an inexpensive used 9W just to try, can't wait till it arrives.
I played a few times a "3 clubs and putter" competition and always made good scores using hybrid, 6i and PW. My club's pro used to play practice rounds using driver, 6i and a wedge; it was fun to watch. Playing with a shortened set is good for practice and often produces good scores.
I miiiiggghhhht can see shelving the 5 iron? But 6 iron, no way! And secondly, when you shorten a driver shaft you better make sure you have a quality club fitter who can properly add weight to the head to control swing weight. And good luck with that. Improper driver swing weight can cause serious dispersion numbers to suffer.
Just get fit. Not just driver, get fit for every club you buy. There’s no blanket rule for every golfer. Oh and take ego out of it. I did a blind iron fitting a few years ago and got put into Srixon ZX5s even though I really wanted the Mizuno pro 221. I immediately dropped from a 22 handicap down to a 17 that season. I’m positive that wouldn’t have happened if I went with 221s. Because of the improvement, it made me more addicted to the game. I’m down to a 10.2 3 seasons later and I think it’s time for another fitting. I can flirt with the idea of those 221s now but again will leave it in the hands of the fitter.
I threw out a 60 wedge a couple of years ago, and my handicap has in part come down due to that. I take real issue with the putter though, I have tried a mallet head, for me, it has less feel, especially on down hill shots resulting in higher scores. I like a bladed putter because if gives you some flexibility on fast greens and downhill putts, the off centre putt simply doesn’t have the same zip nearly always stopping close to the hole.
The second you said ‘not enough club head speed’ it made me doubt the relevance, I’m a 18 hcp - my driver swing speed is about the 118mph mark and 7 iron around the 95 region. I have an 8* driver and 14* 3 wood - zero issues hitting the driver around the 300 mark and my 3 wood 275. I also after that have 2 iron to PW with 54* and 58* wedges with no intention of ditching any of them.
I also have always felt what people go by for selecting the right clubs is a higher handicap shouldn’t necessarily be having to play game improvement irons - it wasn’t until I ditched them and went for irons closer to the ones played on tour (I had the original T100Ss I liked initially but have recently gone for the Callaway Apex CB which truthfully are only 5-PW (well 10 iron) and have the Apex Utility Irons 18, 20 & 23* (the same loft as the 2, 3 and 4) all with the same 6.5 rifle shafts and I’ve been seeing my game improve, I like the feedback for when you hit it wrong and makes you concentrate more plus the major issues I had with game improvement irons were being a long hitter the dispersion was amplified with clubs as such
I agree with all of this except the mini driver purchase recommendation. Just choke up on your present driver an inch or two. If your grip is too thin at the new position then get a thicker grip. So much cheaper than buying a new club.
Just swapped out my thin grip blade putter with a moderately thick grip mallet putter. Now I can approach an 8 footer and actually think I have a chance at it. Another advantage it has is that it’s shorter at 33”. When I grip it and look down, my eye is over the ball. Makes a world of difference
This is spot on for my game. The 3 wood needs to go and add a 7 wood. Mallet putter would be much easier. The new shorter shaft driver. Add hybrids to replace the 5 iron. My 5 iron is new-it should be easy to hit-I am just not getting on with it.
As a 4 handicap, I play 1 iron model more forgiving than I could play! Instead of the Ping I series irons , I play the G series!
Love that!! Great handicap 🙌🏼🙌🏼
I'm short as hell and I hit my 3 wood better than any other club in my bag
The only club I’ve dropped before is my driver, I got a mini driver and the fact that a bad shot with it still doesn’t go OB helped me break 90.
Very interesting, I took out the 5 Iron 5 years ago, still love my 6 Iron because I'm very confident with it, exchanged the 3 Wood with a 5 Wood 4 years ago, chnaged from 60, 56, 52 Cleveland CG15 Wedges to 58 and 52 HiToe this year, also this year, changed from maliciously fitted (by a pro) 1" longer AP3 to standard length Darkspeed, which makes it much easier to hit the Irons well. Is it a coincidence, or just the natural way? ;-)
Alex, I really enjoy your videos, but I had to keep turning my head or closing my eyes during this one. The videography was so choppy and jumping around. It reminded me of a Max Headroom video. Keep up the great training ideas.
How about the ball you use ?
I have a 16 degree 3 wood that I will NEVER take out of my bag. I carry that club 270 off the tee and I absolutely need it for dog leg lefts. My driver I hit in a range from 290-315 based on the quality of strike, but I CANNOT turn it over left!
Long irons are for par 3’s and approach shots into par 5’s. That’s it🤷♂️If you don’t hit them great, it’s not the end of the world. I can understand playing hybrids, but I personally hit irons better than woods so that advice is based on the golfer and their strengths.
Couldn’t agree more on the wedge advice though. I don’t understand why people have so many in their bags. Get a 56 degree and learn how to play it. If it’s all you have, then there is no excuse for not playing more with it and getting better.
Blade putters are a thing of the past! They are all toe hang weighted which REQUIRES rotation through the stroke. That’s just dumb. Get a face balanced mallet or one of the new crazy L.A.B putters and watch how much more consistent your stroke is. Holing putts starts there and ends with better green reading.
And now for driver shaft length. That bit you got spot on. Shorter equals more accurate and takes some of the flex out of the shaft. But most importantly, it shortens the tempo which is critical because when you hit driver, most people typically swing as hard as they can and forget all about tempo and timing!
I find it easier to control my blade putter my stroke as less movement also love my long irons
Totally agree with all this. I have a Callaway mini driver, 5 and 7 woods hybrids 5 & 6 and mallet putter. My wedge, other than pitching and gap wedges is a 56. One question. I hate that wedges all come with wedge flex shafts. Wouldn't someone with a slower swing speed be better with an ordinary regular flex shaft? Does anyone make wedges with these shafts as standard?
Solid recommendation’s Alex.
You can have my 3w you can have my 3W, 3i, and 4i. Just let me know who to leave it to in my will. I need to pluck something out though, probably my hybrid.
Is there a big difference between chocking down the grip on a normal length driver and getting a slightly shorter shaft?
Why can a person just choke down on the driver shaft instead of having a shaft cut down
My wedges are 44, 52 and a 58, all I ever need
How big a difference is that LAB putter making? Did you do a fitting?
Swapped my 3w for a 4w. I had a mallet putter for years and was never really satisfied with it. Swapped earlier this year to a blade that I like a lot more, but agreed on the thicker grip. Got rid of my 3, 4, and 5 irons, I go from a 5w to a 4 and 5 hybrid, to a 6 iron (and on through wedges...PW, 52, 56, and 60). I largely only use my 60deg out of bunkers, to prevent the sand from damaging the grooves on my other wedges.
Sorry to disagree with you but I use my 6 and 5 iron more than any other iron
I agree!!
Brutal truth I need 🤣
I'm much more likely to launch a 3, 4 or 5 iron than I am a 5 wood or a 3 hybrid. And my 5 iron is my go-to iron for a play-safe 2nd shot on a par 5. My irons stay. And I have low swing speed of 75 mph for a 7 iron and 80 mph for a 5 wood.
I have retired my 3 wood and switched to a mallet putter with a thick grip, though
Bummer you didn’t mention the the most useful piece of all: play half a set!
This is a great point!!!
no hybrid and the 3 iron stays in the bag.
No no no, these recommendations are rediculous for so many reasons. 3wd is an integral part of the top end of the bag, if you struggle to hit it, have lessons, because chances are you'll not be able to hit a driver well.
A long iron it a 4i 3i 2i, removing 5i and 6i would be a rediculous idea, they are ideal for long par 3's and approach shots on long par 4's, if you struggle to hit them, have lessons.!
Oh my goodness these suggestions get worse, to get rid of a 60°lob wedge from your bag would be like severally limiting your ability to score, not only on approach shots, but those tricky shots around the greens, out of bunkers, over bunkers, you even raved about such things at the beginning of 2024 when you reviewed the new Cleveland zipcore 2 wedges, so much so that I purchased the full face 60° 8°bounce which fits in nicely next to my 56° 14° bounce, giving not only a variant in full shot distances but versatility in the bunkers that have a variety of sand depths and consistencies.
I've found this video rediculous Alex, get back to your great quality swing instruction videos, if your struggling for content ideas, do a series of on course videos where you play rounds and give tips and strategie ideas.
“I want a shorter shaft”… said no man ever 😂
I like my 6 iron. but I have a running joke about the shot I accidentally grabbed it, instead of my 9. turns out a !9 hits the ball a lot further than a 9i
If I hit my long irons the same distance as my 7 iron I'd have one length long irons
What do you think is better mini driver or 2 inch shorter driver shaft would the head size make much of a difference
Smaller head means more club head speed.
This was not helpful for me, love my fairway woods, I love my driver too. I think you have to grind it out for yourself. Grind it out means practice.
Your video is about what works for you 😀 cheers and good on you; however, that doesn't apply to me and my style of play and club head speed. Not trying to disagree, and I hope your next round is your best ever, I certainly hope my next round is a good one too.✌️
That was intense viewing
My list that nobody cares about (in order of priority):
3 wood
anything above 56 degree wedge
any iron under a 4 iron
driving irons
a gap wedge that comes with a set and has an ‘A’ or ‘G’ stamped on it. Just get a real 50 degree wedge
Sorry can not agree. I play off 19 and my go to club s a 5 iron. Also carry a 4 iron. Just cant trust a hybrid so no point in having one. Agree with 5 wood and shorter shaft driver. As for putter what ever works for you.
Try a Callaway heavenhood 7 wood with 3 wood length shaft great club. Sorry but I for one aren't going to spend $500 for the putter your using.
Your driver is playing at 43.5 inches? Or did i just hear that completely wrong? I replayed it a couple times but am just missing it.
I had a mallet putter for 14 years. Putting was worst part of my game. Bought a Scotty Cameron newport 2 & I am saving myself 4 to 5 putts a round. No way am I going back to a mallet.
Bollocks! Most of this info is bad. Learn to hit a 3 wood and longer irons properly and you will hit more greens in regulation. There is a difference in distance between all clubs if struck correctly. Knowing your capabilities with each club allows you to land the ball where you want it.
Anyone wanna buy a g425 3w😂