Guy around here has one of those 2 seaters. Its not good. GM gets all its styling from Mattels Hot Wheels. The new Corvettes are poor. Still plenty of barn door ugly trucks though. They challenge Lexus for worst looking vehicle.
‘68 is my year of choice. Closely followed by ‘67. Some prefer the 472, which I love, but I find the 429 is a great engine, being derived from the 331. Plenty of differences between all four years from 1967-1970. Thanks for bringing these two together. BTW I love that Mark 3 too… it’s old school in design and gussied up yes, but it hits a different set of neurons
IMO the car makers knew Government regulations were coming at this point and they knew time was short to squeeze out more easier money making stuff. At my age hind-sight sure makes history more interesting.
I had a '68 with the 500 transplanted from a '70. Such a torque monster. I agree, the hidden headlight feature was nicer on the 67-68 models, expect anytime I took it through a car wash, the covers wouldn't open or close properly until it completely dried out.
My Dad had a 69 Eldo when it was new......the nicest ride I had ever been in up to that point in my young life way back. I have an obsession for this style or era of Eldorado.....few come close...or have the impact they have on me. Cadillac's in general have been something special to me all of my life....
Both lovely cars. I prefer the 67, due to the concealed headlights, but the 68 is actually my favourite as I liked the 472 engine and the front parking lights.
Im not a Cadillac person generally, but I just looked up the 68, and that seems to be the perfect blend of these two.. I had thought the Signal lamps were on a model, but didn't know them enough.. I like the cornering lamps added to the 68 with the turn signals in the fender.. I think it looks the best.. Thanks for giving me new cars to think about...lol
I think I’d go with the ‘69. The hidden headlights of the ‘67 are cool, but the exposed headlights look good, too, and are more in keeping with the traditional Cadillac look, plus the grille is better. I also like the signal lights as opposed to the fender caps up front and the rear treatment of the taillights and chrome is nicer. I also like vinyl tops for their formal look and texture, and the improved ride is also a factor because this generation of Eldorado needs what it can get! The final selling points are the 472 and the black interior as I’m not a big fan of red interiors personally. Too bad the ‘69 isn’t painted black also, though I must say that forest green color really works with the design. Both are fantastic machines, though!
Hello Adam , thanks for another interesting video. Really enjoy your content. I’ve been a designer for General Motors most of my life. I find these older vehicles incredibly interesting. It is just amazing to think that this was all done on the board without the use of any computers.
Hello Adam, both of these Eldorados are spectacular!!! I love the hidden headlights of the 67. The deep green color of the 69 is gorgeous!!! Thanks for sharing this fun comparison!!! 👍👍🙂
The fender mounted turn signal on your 1969 first showed up on the 1968, doubling as the newly required front side marker light. Since it was not needed, the 67 got the blank fender cap, and the 68 an easy planned update with no fender mod.
Interesting, the ‘69 looks wider than the ‘67. Probably because the parking lights on the ends pull the eye out farther. Iconically, I like the ‘67 better, but I agree, the ‘69 is better in several ways, as it should be being two years newer. Great episode, Adam!
Another fine video. Not only these two fav cars but I really like your presentation style. Also really like the fact that when you reference other models or makes that you pop up an inset photo, very nice touch. Early Eldos Rock.
It’s really handy for us Europeans trying to learn about American metal. I guess it’s easier if you saw these cars everyday, rather than just brief glimpses on Kojak or The Rockford Files.
This entire generation is a timeless masterpiece with great design. While I would've "settled" for a Coupe DeVille in this era, these were great lookers. Same goes for the Mark III, where I would've gone for a normal continental coupe instead of the Mark.
I had a chance to buy a 1967 Eldorado from my neighbor in the late 1980's for $500. It was her father car who had passed away and not being used anymore. She let me driver the car for two days to see how I liked it. Well, I loved the car, but it needed a complete exhaust system and a little tender loving care too. It was Blue with a white top and white leather interior. The paint was slightly faded and might have buffed out, but straight and never in an accident. I wish I bought it, but I didn't and was hard to give back to my her after driving all over the place with no problems ,but a noisy exhaust rumble. Thanks for sharing your video. Those two Caddy's are awesome!
I would take any of the Eldos from 1967 - 1970. Although I love the 1967 overall the most, the rear ended styling of the 1970 is my favorite. Awesome videos, Adam. Such great attention to detail about these historic vehicles.
Love the hideaway headlights way better! And you are correct when you compare these to the Lincolns, the interior materials are far superior in the Lincolns.
I imagine that there were also safety concerns with having the rear seat being able to open the driver side door into traffic which isn't an issue on the passenger side.
It was mostly because it was impractical to have a handle in the rear of the driver’s door for a passenger, when the driver had to get out to allow the passenger to Egress anyway. On the passenger’s side however, it’s possible that there may not be a front passenger, in which case, the rear passenger could open the door and let themselves out. This design continued until at least the 1980 model. My 1980 Eldorado Biarritz had the very same handle on the rear of the passenger door.
I owned a 69 Eldorado . I did like the way it drives the 472 had plenty of power . But I like the 67 interior because the styling and materials are much more rich looking.
Love the channel - and feature of the channel that is extra great and not common is when Adam posts the other models he is referring to in the conversation. I feel like I’m hanging around with a buddy talking cars.
Thank you for the deep dive on these two, Adam. Never realized the many small differences aside from the obvious styling changes. There appears to be a real effort to make the Eldo look more like the rest of the Cadillac lineup - less far out there from a design perspective. GM did much the same thing with the Toronado in an effort to boost sales. Funny how they would try to boost sales by taking away some of the unique character of both vehicles AND take costs out by cheapening the interiors and using more common components as well. Definitely a case where two wrongs didn't make a right from an historic perspective. This doesn't take much away from any year of this first generation fwd Eldorado - a truly stunning design for any car, much less a production car designed to be stamped out in the thousands. It's funny that the second generation of the fwd Eldorado which appeared in 1971 sold much better and shared much more with the rest of the line, meeting GM sales AND cost sharing targets. Although interesting - and with apologies to all involved - from a drop-dead-gorgeous styling perspective it just isn't in the same league.
A very informative and interesting video. Love the deep dive into both cars particularly the interior details (rear window panel texture differences!) and IP changes. The rear blade lamps on the ‘67 are works of art…but the ‘69 has the 472 & a tweaked suspension…tough choice…that’s why I’d go with a ‘66 Olds Toro…I need that sloping rear quarter…
That 472 was an awesome engine. My parents had that engine in their 74 Sedan de’ Ville. I loved my mom’s 78 Coupe De’ Ville. If my memory serves me correctly, I think it had a 425 V8. It was White on White with Red interior.
Absolutely gorgeous cars. This era has the class and design excellence that has captured my interest to the point where I want one. I like the 67 better and circumstances dictated changes that progressively made them less desirable. Same with Tornadoes. Beautiful.
Great video. I believe that GM began to phase out the old cruise control module in 82-83 in favor of the vacuum unit. This change appears along with an improved car/ human interface via the new multifunction lever. Some people called it the "smart switch". I like the multifunction lever until the paint becomes worn and you can't see the markings for the cruise or wiper functions.
Hello Adam, just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed your comparison of the 67 to the 69 Eldorado. My Grandfather and father were Cadillac and Oldsmobile dealers from 1955 to 1983.I'm 67 years old and fondly remember these models. In 1966 my dad 's best friend bought a trumpet gold Tornado. The next year he and my dad ordered a 67 black Eldorado with black and white houndstooth interior, boy was that a sharp looking car! I still think the 67 styling was the best 😊
I am from India and I have been always amazed, by these huge, majestic and graceful machines. In India I have driven Dodge Kingsway, Plymouth Savoy, Chevy Nova and Chevy Malibu to mention a few. I have always been impressed by the build quality. One big salute to these wonderful, amazing American cars.
So beautiful!!! How did GM afford to build these, making changes almost every year??? The style, design and engineering was world class 😎🏆🎩 Mom and Dad owned a 1969 Coupe DeVille and I can still smell the unique scent of that Cadillac white leather.
Good video. I like both cars but the styling on the 67 is striking, like they wanted to just go for something interesting. The 69, while I still like it, looks like a generic big 70s car to me, especially with the flatter wheel discs. Both cool cars. I like the emblem on the front of the hood, something different.
Hi Adam.. it’s the woodworker again.. The wood grain in the ‘69 is correctly oriented. The seventies car you showed (74 caddy?) had the wood grain up and down across the dash, or rather the “short” way. The grain should always go the length of the board.
I think the front end of the '67 has that muscular luxurious look to it that is missed on the '69. How about the qtr panel on both rigs?? I love the kick out at the doors...
Both cars are sexy gorgeous, especially the '69. I want to have their children. BUT...once I get into the design details, build quality, ride comfort and all that, I'll put my money on that gussied-up T-bird.
I like the early 60s. The interiors are so Jetsons. Plenty of sharp edges to be impailed on. As Carlin says, after the wreck, hose it out and its ready for the next owner.
I think it's a testament to GM's superiority at that time, that they designed the corner light cutouts into the fenders of the '67, because they knew they'd need them in the future for side marker lights regulations, but didn't use them until they had to, simply because the car looked better without them.
I had a 67 and a 70. Loved both. My girlfriend at the time would drag race the 67 on the street. The 67 torque converter was different and these were quicker off the line.
My 70 would smoke the tires off the line. It had a big advantage to RWD cars. I most always got the hole shot. Those L 78s were considered huge in the day. I'm using 235 75 15 now. Whitewall. Hankook.
Outstanding video Adam. I own a Lanai green '70 Eldorado with black interior and vinyl roof, yes I'd prefer a slick top. Features I love of the '70 are the 500ci engine, side marker lights, aerial incorporated into the windscreen and the hidden wipers. Of the '67 & '68 I'd prefer the front and rear lights. Also the wheel trims. Thanks for the great videos 🇬🇧
Mine works as does the clock. The clock is wind up but its wound by an electro magnet which kicks about every 15 minutes. Interesting design. The power seats have one motor but three solenoids which kick the motor into screw jacks which change the position in three planes. Another interesting design which is still working. I would never do it that way. The radio is nothing amazing. I have an unused Alpine CD radio I may eventually put in the glove box. The Cadillac label 8 track is the big option. I don't have one but I do have a perfectly good 8 track and tapes I used in my moms 70 Eldo back in the day. Uriah Heap, Zappa, Beautiful Day, Zepplin. I'm 16 all over again! Now if I can find some SS 396 Chevelles to stomp on. I always liked showing them my taillights.@@arthuradderley5872
Great video, The 67 was the last year Cadillac tried to create a luxury interior after that the bean counters really went to work taking out everywhere they could, especially in the interior (they really cheapened the dash ), especially by the driver (raw plastic)The 67 was all covered with vinyl most of the real metal trim was removed in favor or sprayed silver paint over plastic!
Had nothing to do with bean counters, but rather NHTSA's interior safety regulations. Every car maker's interiors took a dive starting in the '68 model year.
Really great video! I never realized there were so many differences between those years. I know heated seats were a rare option. I never noticed the black color rear window trim on 1967. Or I should say “body color” depending on the exterior paint color? And the rear window trim embossed to match the vinyl top grain pattern is interesting. I much prefer the hidden wipers, but the pork chop dog bone thingy is a bit weird. I never noticed the sharp crease down the center of the rear window! The door rear view mirrors: I like the big rectangular mirrors over the smaller round mirrors. I don’t care much for the dash on the 1969. Looks cheap. But I prefer the Cadillac emblem in the center of the steering wheel rather than the lower placement on the spoke on the 1967. Those front fender fillers (that later turned into front turn signal lights) always bothered me as I’ve seen so many that didn’t fit well. I have to think that in 1967 Cadillac knew those front fender caps would be gone in 1968, replaced by front turn signal lights. The hidden headlight front end blows the exposed headlight 1969 out of the water. The round rear side marker light is interesting. We don’t see a round marker light again until the 1973 Eldorado, I do believe. Thank you for pointing out the cylinder under the hood that operates the rear leveling shocks. When do we first see interval wipers on an Eldorado? Where is the radio antenna in these Eldorados? I’m guessing they are embedded in the windshield? Ralph Nader probably hated those razor edge rear taillights! I assume that tiny door for the fuel filler is part of the trunk lid and goes up with the trunk when you raise the trunk. On the 1969 I’d rather not have the vinyl roof, but the Cadillac emblems on the C pillars needs to be there! I’m glad the dealer added it. My 1994 Eldorado has the C pillar emblems, but I think it’s absent on the later model Eldorados.
The '67 with its eggcrate Ferrari like grille treatment and hidden headlights which adds an unique elegant yet aggresive look to it . I do like the '69s hidden wipers better though.
Usually the first edition looks the best imo, but in this case the minor changes make the '69 a better looking car, too bad it has the padded roof, but in it's day that was the rage.
Your '67 example has the better of the two interiors -which really pops with the red color. Immaculate condition though -both of these. I'd be hard pressed to pick one over the other...
One thing that always bothered me was the "cost cutting" aspect. If I started off owning a chevy, I would expect options to save weight, cost, price.etc. But if I became successful in life and could buy a Cadillac, I would expect real wood grain, gauges instead of blanks.etc.
GM is in the business of making money not cars. They of course used to make refrigerators and washers. These days they seem to be ineffective at doing anything. They are run by Wall Street to maximize share holder value. RIP. They will never again produce greatness.
The first generation FWD Eldorado is, in my opinion, one of few cars, that actually benefited visually from switching to exposed headlamps. Together with the fender located parking lamps the look is quite elegant.
Great comparison. My first choice will always be the 1968 Eldorado. I never cared for the dashboard used in the 1969 ‘70 Cadillacs. It looked cheap for a luxury car IMO.
I agree that the Cadillac wreath & crest on the sail panel looks better. That's one reason I like the 67s over the 68s. Regarding your price comparison in today's money I agree that the $6,000 car then would be a $60,000 car now. But that was the base price; most were optioned up to 2000 more.. making most 8000 then and translating the 80,000 now. I was only a boy at the time I remember how people commented on the extra high cost back then. Totally out of thr reach the most people. And even people that could squeeze themselves into the base Cadillac or Lincoln we're not able to get into an Eldorado or a Mark 3. Lastly, Cadillac intoduced the dual brake system in '62. All cars were mandated to have the feature in '67. Thank you Adam for another excellent video! It helped end the horrible day of mine into a very pleasant evening. Greg in California
There is an original price list on the internet. How cheap things were will make you cry. The big option was a sunroof for around $900 which is very rare. The second big one was the level ride also for $900. Bucket seats/console was another option. I would go with the 60/40 power seat on a car this size. The rest of the options could be had for around $500 total. Our 70 cost $6600 which agrees with the internet. The MKIII was a lot more, over $8000. Next door neighbor had one. Dad tried to trade the Eldo for a MKIII and was given the bums rush. He was pissed beyond words.
@rogersmith7396 I think you got your '70 at a big negotiated discount price. Coupe deVilles all stickered between 7200 and 7800 on the Dealer's lot with the normal options at that time. The Eldos were close to 9000 at that time . It was $6600 base price to which you added air conditioning, leather interior , cruise control, stereo radio, tilt steering wheel, six-way power seat, power door locks, Etc which added 1800 -2,000 extra. Back then, dealers would give big discounts if you purchased in late summer just before the new models of the next year were arriving. The thing for sure was that in 1967, the Eldorado was not getting any discounts because was brand-new and highly prized.
I don't disagree. The reason we did'nt get a Lincoln was because they were sticker only. Dad said lets get a new car and we drove to downtown KC. Wait in the Cad while I go get the car. When he came back he was cussing and seething. No Lincoln. GM dealers were famous for discounts, Lincoln dealers were not. But my internet info confirms what I know about our purchase. And our car was not fully optioned. It was gold which I consider to be the best color. Not a lot pig. As the 71 was completely different they may have wanted to move them before they were stuck with them. He replaced it with a downsized 77 DeVille. The last Triumph TR 6 in town went for over $7000 with hard top in 76. I picked out a 73 Camaro in burnt orange metallic for him and it was $3800 delivered. I hit a dog in the snow with it driving home from the dealer. The dog was OK. The expensive cars were all for mom and me. I went to a poor high school and drove the Eldo or my motorcycle to school. It kind of stood out among the beaters and Ford Falcons. He almost never drove them. Thats why when he got the lemon Eldo diesel he dumped it in a hot dam. He did'nt want her calling him on the phone saying it broke down again. Still we had one of the best cars in the neighborhood. A Dr. had like a Benz 230 but they were thought to be weird hupmobile somethings. One guy had an Excaliber but that was'nt a daily driver. A funeral director had grey Cads out the ying yang. Our 70 had all the options you cite plus floor mats and trunk mats. No level ride. The cruise control broke after a year and was'nt fixed. The lawyer down the street was on retainer from an Olds dealership and he got a new Toro every year. Guy across the street drove a Rambler American for years. I have gotten steep discounts on special orders. Dad got some money off on his 66 Mustang during a shortage. Depends on how well the dealer is hooked up. I flew to Chicago to pick up a special order Saab 900 the local dealer could'nt get. I already knew the discount price and I did'nt even argue with the dealer. He nearly fell out of his chair. I gave him a cashiers check from the largest bank in MO. and he thought I printed it in the basement. Still have the Saabs and the Mcycle. Well to do grandma had lots of Lincolns and Cads. She would have me drive her every where. Don't think she ever drove me. I would drive to her house in the Eldo then we got in her DeVille and I would drive her. I guess the Eldo meant I was trustworthy. Not well to do grandpa drove a Catalina then a Ford Fairmont. He had the only Mopar in the family when I was a kid. A Dodge with tail fins. Now I have a Jeep.
Any time he trots out the Eldo I share a lot. Buicks not so much. I keep telling him to do an Avanti or top end Grand Prix. Today I told him about a Nash Metro for sale here and there was a 72 Cougar in dark red that knocked my socks off. He can do more than land yachts.@@gregt8638
Was initially going to go with the 69 because of its tail end but the 67 interior has it beat hands down! Still love the over all exterior design of the 69 but the dial up cruise control and interior of the 67 wins.
Such beautiful, elegant, crisp styling. For me, even with the vinyl roof; maybe even partly because of it, I like the 69 better. The front end styling to me is much cleaner.
Hands down, the ‘67. I thin it was a mistake to eliminate the concealed headlamps. The exposed lamps make the car look heavy and chunky and they detract from the rest of the car’s lines, where as the concealed lamps contribute to the car’s svelte lines and attitude.
Great video tour. Excellent job showing the differences between the years. I always loved this gen Eldo and learned a few things with your video. I prefer the 67s front end better and pretty much neutral on the rest of the styling. But I do prefer the 69s electrics over the 67s vacume system. Also seems like a few less issues with the 472 over the 429 by your discription. Thanks very much.
My Dad had a 1968 fully loaded Eldo. (the car that hooked me on Cadillacs) Metallic Brown, Tan interior, Vinyl top. Still to this day it's my favorite Cadillac. I remember washing it and looking at the details of the lighting and even at 9 years old liking it better than the 1967. I didn't like the turn signal placement on the 1967. Had the fender on the 67 been all one piece without filler it would have been outstanding but the filler looked after thought or that it didn't belong. I did also really like the 69 and 70 although not a fan of the razor tail lights. 1968 is my vote. Thanks for the video!
I'm having difficulty in understanding why the chrome piece around the rear window on the 67 Eldo is painted black. I find it hard to believe that it was originally painted that way from the factory. Is it possible that the 67 Eldo had a vinyl top and it was removed at one point and then the top was painted along with that chrome piece?? By the way, if I had to choose which one I prefer, I would go with the 67. But I believe that the 71 and 72 Eldos were absolutely beautiful. My high school band director had a 72 Eldo convertible and it was just so strikingly beautiful. He always got to the school early and parked it right in front and had the top down. He only drove it on clear days. Great video!
The 1967 wins with exterior styling. The grille is beautiful and the wheels are sporty. No vinyl roof gives it a more sporty, elegant look. The interior on the 67 looks retro and sporty, while the interior in the 69 looks more contemporary and relaxing.
Another great video Adam. Both of these vehicles, as you stated have their strengths. If I was looking to buy one, it would come down to what condition I could find at what price.
That's the most intelligent way to make a choice. While condition is "everything", overall value for the dollar is likely the determining factor when buying.
The ‘67 is the clear winner. Interesting that GM’s habit of de-contenting a car each year subsequent to first introducing it started in the 60s (or was it earlier) to improve profitability.
I actually prefer the 69. Mostly due to the exterior and interior color combo and it just seems a little cleaner overall. On a side note maybe it is just my device but your last couple of videos seem like the volume is too low.
Love the 67, especially the slick top like yours. Not that I'd kick the 69 out of the garage. Very articulate description of both cars. I've subscribed.
My 70 has two but you can't control it from the drivers side. Cable operated. Its just decoration. Another place to put the Cadillac script on. They are made of zinc which is a real downer.
I prefer the 67. I like the hidden headlights and it has a cleaner look to me.
yes .
i agree
Same here
Back when Cadillacs were Cadillacs, and not just another indistinguishable shape in traffic.
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Only indistinguishable to those who aren’t paying attention 🤔
Guy around here has one of those 2 seaters. Its not good. GM gets all its styling from Mattels Hot Wheels. The new Corvettes are poor. Still plenty of barn door ugly trucks though. They challenge Lexus for worst looking vehicle.
Exactly!
I own a 1967 and enjoyed your video which enlightened me on a few features that I was my certain about.
The 67 interior just pops, every time you show it, it's eye candy
Grandma ville. Looks like every Cad my Grandma had except the 75.
@@rogersmith7396 i guess she did not bequeath it to you.
‘68 is my year of choice. Closely followed by ‘67. Some prefer the 472, which I love, but I find the 429 is a great engine, being derived from the 331. Plenty of differences between all four years from 1967-1970. Thanks for bringing these two together. BTW I love that Mark 3 too… it’s old school in design and gussied up yes, but it hits a different set of neurons
IMO the car makers knew Government regulations were coming at this point and they knew time was short to squeeze out more easier money making stuff. At my age hind-sight sure makes history more interesting.
66 for me. The Lincoln’s were nicer cars but I’m a caddy guy.😕
I had a '68 with the 500 transplanted from a '70. Such a torque monster. I agree, the hidden headlight feature was nicer on the 67-68 models, expect anytime I took it through a car wash, the covers wouldn't open or close properly until it completely dried out.
My Dad had a 69 Eldo when it was new......the nicest ride I had ever been in up to that point in my young life way back. I have an obsession for this style or era of Eldorado.....few come close...or have the impact they have on me. Cadillac's in general have been something special to me all of my life....
Both lovely cars. I prefer the 67, due to the concealed headlights, but the 68 is actually my favourite as I liked the 472 engine and the front parking lights.
Completely agree!
You have good taste!@@keeganandersson4281
Im not a Cadillac person generally, but I just looked up the 68, and that seems to be the perfect blend of these two.. I had thought the Signal lamps were on a model, but didn't know them enough.. I like the cornering lamps added to the 68 with the turn signals in the fender.. I think it looks the best.. Thanks for giving me new cars to think about...lol
I think I’d go with the ‘69. The hidden headlights of the ‘67 are cool, but the exposed headlights look good, too, and are more in keeping with the traditional Cadillac look, plus the grille is better. I also like the signal lights as opposed to the fender caps up front and the rear treatment of the taillights and chrome is nicer. I also like vinyl tops for their formal look and texture, and the improved ride is also a factor because this generation of Eldorado needs what it can get! The final selling points are the 472 and the black interior as I’m not a big fan of red interiors personally. Too bad the ‘69 isn’t painted black also, though I must say that forest green color really works with the design. Both are fantastic machines, though!
Great comparison video. I prefer the 67, just a beautiful car!
Thanks I enjoyed the video.
Hello Adam , thanks for another interesting video. Really enjoy your content. I’ve been a designer for General Motors most of my life. I find these older vehicles incredibly interesting. It is just amazing to think that this was all done on the board without the use of any computers.
Hello Adam, both of these Eldorados are spectacular!!! I love the hidden headlights of the 67. The deep green color of the 69 is gorgeous!!! Thanks for sharing this fun comparison!!! 👍👍🙂
67 for me. You just may have THE perfect example. Thanks for sharing, and all the great vids!
You just cant beat the old personal luxury car. For me, its the 66 Toronado, and this 67 Eldorado, pure class.
69 Grand Prix is pretty decent. 428 SJ. 4 speed.
The fender mounted turn signal on your 1969 first showed up on the 1968, doubling as the newly required front side marker light. Since it was not needed, the 67 got the blank fender cap, and the 68 an easy planned update with no fender mod.
Interesting, the ‘69 looks wider than the ‘67. Probably because the parking lights on the ends pull the eye out farther. Iconically, I like the ‘67 better, but I agree, the ‘69 is better in several ways, as it should be being two years newer. Great episode, Adam!
Another fine video. Not only these two fav cars but I really like your presentation style. Also really like the fact that when you reference other models or makes that you pop up an inset photo, very nice touch. Early Eldos Rock.
Agree 100% with the reference photos. Nobody else really does that, it's a nice touch.
It’s really handy for us Europeans trying to learn about American metal. I guess it’s easier if you saw these cars everyday, rather than just brief glimpses on Kojak or The Rockford Files.
This entire generation is a timeless masterpiece with great design. While I would've "settled" for a Coupe DeVille in this era, these were great lookers. Same goes for the Mark III, where I would've gone for a normal continental coupe instead of the Mark.
I had a chance to buy a 1967 Eldorado from my neighbor in the late 1980's for $500. It was her father car who had passed away and not being used anymore. She let me driver the car for two days to see how I liked it. Well, I loved the car, but it needed a complete exhaust system and a little tender loving care too. It was Blue with a white top and white leather interior. The paint was slightly faded and might have buffed out, but straight and never in an accident. I wish I bought it, but I didn't and was hard to give back to my her after driving all over the place with no problems ,but a noisy exhaust rumble. Thanks for sharing your video. Those two Caddy's are awesome!
Love these comparison videos. Waiting for the 68 Eldorado and 68 Coupe Comparison! Awesome vids😍
Great video, Adam! I have a '67 and love it.
The '67 with the hidden headlights and cool taillight design is the original and most beautiful in my opinion.
100% it’s the ‘67 Eldo for me!
I would take any of the Eldos from 1967 - 1970. Although I love the 1967 overall the most, the rear ended styling of the 1970 is my favorite. Awesome videos, Adam. Such great attention to detail about these historic vehicles.
Love the hideaway headlights way better! And you are correct when you compare these to the Lincolns, the interior materials are far superior in the Lincolns.
I love this channel it’s like my coffee table books came to life.
Cool!
I imagine that there were also safety concerns with having the rear seat being able to open the driver side door into traffic which isn't an issue on the passenger side.
It was mostly because it was impractical to have a handle in the rear of the driver’s door for a passenger, when the driver had to get out to allow the passenger to Egress anyway. On the passenger’s side however, it’s possible that there may not be a front passenger, in which case, the rear passenger could open the door and let themselves out. This design continued until at least the 1980 model. My 1980 Eldorado Biarritz had the very same handle on the rear of the passenger door.
I agree the 67's front end and Interior is a better styled. It is great that the luxury coupes' drive-ability (performance) functionality improved.
I prefer the 69 model. Great review Adam.
Another great video! I have to say I prefer the 67 but that 69 with the 472 quite nice too.
I owned a 69 Eldorado . I did like the way it drives the 472 had plenty of power . But I like the 67 interior because the styling and materials are much more rich looking.
Love the channel - and feature of the channel that is extra great and not common is when Adam posts the other models he is referring to in the conversation.
I feel like I’m hanging around with a buddy talking cars.
Amazing how much the cars changed year to year and model to model….Great designers back in the day 👍🏻
Thank you for the deep dive on these two, Adam. Never realized the many small differences aside from the obvious styling changes. There appears to be a real effort to make the Eldo look more like the rest of the Cadillac lineup - less far out there from a design perspective. GM did much the same thing with the Toronado in an effort to boost sales. Funny how they would try to boost sales by taking away some of the unique character of both vehicles AND take costs out by cheapening the interiors and using more common components as well. Definitely a case where two wrongs didn't make a right from an historic perspective. This doesn't take much away from any year of this first generation fwd Eldorado - a truly stunning design for any car, much less a production car designed to be stamped out in the thousands. It's funny that the second generation of the fwd Eldorado which appeared in 1971 sold much better and shared much more with the rest of the line, meeting GM sales AND cost sharing targets. Although interesting - and with apologies to all involved - from a drop-dead-gorgeous styling perspective it just isn't in the same league.
Thank you for doing this comparison video, Adam. Like you, I prefer the '67 interior. I do like the color of the '69 very much as well.
A very informative and interesting video. Love the deep dive into both cars particularly the interior details (rear window panel texture differences!) and IP changes. The rear blade lamps on the ‘67 are works of art…but the ‘69 has the 472 & a tweaked suspension…tough choice…that’s why I’d go with a ‘66 Olds Toro…I need that sloping rear quarter…
That 472 was an awesome engine. My parents had that engine in their 74 Sedan de’ Ville.
I loved my mom’s 78 Coupe De’ Ville. If my memory serves me correctly, I think it had a 425 V8. It was White on White with Red interior.
Absolutely gorgeous cars. This era has the class and design excellence that has captured my interest to the point where I want one. I like the 67 better and circumstances dictated changes that progressively made them less desirable. Same with Tornadoes. Beautiful.
Great video. I believe that GM began to phase out the old cruise control module in 82-83 in favor of the vacuum unit. This change appears along with an improved car/ human interface via the new multifunction lever. Some people called it the "smart switch". I like the multifunction lever until the paint becomes worn and you can't see the markings for the cruise or wiper functions.
The Toronado, Riv and the Eldo and the Mk3 66 thru 69 were the most beautiful boats ever built.
Hello Adam, just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed your comparison of the 67 to the 69 Eldorado. My Grandfather and father were Cadillac and Oldsmobile dealers from 1955 to 1983.I'm 67 years old and fondly remember these models. In 1966 my dad 's best friend bought a trumpet gold Tornado. The next year he and my dad ordered a 67 black Eldorado with black and white houndstooth interior, boy was that a sharp looking car! I still think the 67 styling was the best 😊
I am from India and I have been always amazed, by these huge, majestic and graceful machines. In India I have driven Dodge Kingsway, Plymouth Savoy, Chevy Nova and Chevy Malibu to mention a few. I have always been impressed by the build quality. One big salute to these wonderful, amazing American cars.
The 69 grill is a true forerunner to the 71 Impala which keeps the 67 looking much fresher now as we look back.
So beautiful!!! How did GM afford to build these, making changes almost every year??? The style, design and engineering was world class 😎🏆🎩
Mom and Dad owned a 1969 Coupe DeVille and I can still smell the unique scent of that Cadillac white leather.
Good video. I like both cars but the styling on the 67 is striking, like they wanted to just go for something interesting. The 69, while I still like it, looks like a generic big 70s car to me, especially with the flatter wheel discs. Both cool cars. I like the emblem on the front of the hood, something different.
Hi Adam.. it’s the woodworker again.. The wood grain in the ‘69 is correctly oriented. The seventies car you showed (74 caddy?) had the wood grain up and down across the dash, or rather the “short” way. The grain should always go the length of the board.
The woodworker!!! Thx ;)
I think the front end of the '67 has that muscular luxurious look to it that is missed on the '69. How about the qtr panel on both rigs?? I love the kick out at the doors...
Both cars are sexy gorgeous, especially the '69. I want to have their children. BUT...once I get into the design details, build quality, ride comfort and all that, I'll put my money on that gussied-up T-bird.
I like the early 60s. The interiors are so Jetsons. Plenty of sharp edges to be impailed on. As Carlin says, after the wreck, hose it out and its ready for the next owner.
I think it's a testament to GM's superiority at that time, that they designed the corner light cutouts into the fenders of the '67, because they knew they'd need them in the future for side marker lights regulations, but didn't use them until they had to, simply because the car looked better without them.
Those hidden headlights of the '67 and '68 though. Sakes, alive!
I had a 67 and a 70. Loved both. My girlfriend at the time would drag race the 67 on the street. The 67 torque converter was different and these were quicker off the line.
My 70 would smoke the tires off the line. It had a big advantage to RWD cars. I most always got the hole shot. Those L 78s were considered huge in the day. I'm using 235 75 15 now. Whitewall. Hankook.
Outstanding video Adam.
I own a Lanai green '70 Eldorado with black interior and vinyl roof, yes I'd prefer a slick top.
Features I love of the '70 are the 500ci engine, side marker lights, aerial incorporated into the windscreen and the hidden wipers. Of the '67 & '68 I'd prefer the front and rear lights. Also the wheel trims.
Thanks for the great videos 🇬🇧
Mine has windscreen and power antenna. FM stereo.
@@rogersmith7396 The original radio is absent in mine 😭
Mine works as does the clock. The clock is wind up but its wound by an electro magnet which kicks about every 15 minutes. Interesting design. The power seats have one motor but three solenoids which kick the motor into screw jacks which change the position in three planes. Another interesting design which is still working. I would never do it that way. The radio is nothing amazing. I have an unused Alpine CD radio I may eventually put in the glove box. The Cadillac label 8 track is the big option. I don't have one but I do have a perfectly good 8 track and tapes I used in my moms 70 Eldo back in the day. Uriah Heap, Zappa, Beautiful Day, Zepplin. I'm 16 all over again! Now if I can find some SS 396 Chevelles to stomp on. I always liked showing them my taillights.@@arthuradderley5872
Great video, The 67 was the last year Cadillac tried to create a luxury interior after that the bean counters really went to work taking out everywhere they could, especially in the interior (they really cheapened the dash ), especially by the driver (raw plastic)The 67 was all covered with vinyl most of the real metal trim was removed in favor or sprayed silver paint over plastic!
Had nothing to do with bean counters, but rather NHTSA's interior safety regulations. Every car maker's interiors took a dive starting in the '68 model year.
Both beautiful cars ! Thanks for sharing the very detailed comparison of the two, very informative !
Man that 67 is too cool for school
Beautiful rides !!! The first gens were the best; love the '67
Really great video! I never realized there were so many differences between those years.
I know heated seats were a rare option.
I never noticed the black color rear window trim on 1967. Or I should say “body color” depending on the exterior paint color?
And the rear window trim embossed to match the vinyl top grain pattern is interesting.
I much prefer the hidden wipers, but the pork chop dog bone thingy is a bit weird.
I never noticed the sharp crease down the center of the rear window!
The door rear view mirrors: I like the big rectangular mirrors over the smaller round mirrors.
I don’t care much for the dash on the 1969. Looks cheap. But I prefer the Cadillac emblem in the center of the steering wheel rather than the lower placement on the spoke on the 1967.
Those front fender fillers (that later turned into front turn signal lights) always bothered me as I’ve seen so many that didn’t fit well.
I have to think that in 1967 Cadillac knew those front fender caps would be gone in 1968, replaced by front turn signal lights.
The hidden headlight front end blows the exposed headlight 1969 out of the water.
The round rear side marker light is interesting. We don’t see a round marker light again until the 1973 Eldorado, I do believe.
Thank you for pointing out the cylinder under the hood that operates the rear leveling shocks.
When do we first see interval wipers on an Eldorado?
Where is the radio antenna in these Eldorados? I’m guessing they are embedded in the windshield?
Ralph Nader probably hated those razor edge rear taillights!
I assume that tiny door for the fuel filler is part of the trunk lid and goes up with the trunk when you raise the trunk.
On the 1969 I’d rather not have the vinyl roof, but the Cadillac emblems on the C pillars needs to be there! I’m glad the dealer added it.
My 1994 Eldorado has the C pillar emblems, but I think it’s absent on the later model Eldorados.
The '67 with its eggcrate Ferrari like grille treatment and hidden headlights which adds an unique elegant yet aggresive look to it . I do like the '69s hidden wipers better though.
Thank you Adam, as always a great video. I am totally into your cars!
Great video, loved being able to see the evolution of the model
Usually the first edition looks the best imo, but in this case the minor changes make the '69 a better looking car, too bad it has the padded roof, but in it's day that was the rage.
I like the 67 interior better. Overall, though, i would go with the 69 based on mechanicl bits and engine choice
You don’t have to decide which is better, you have both which solves the issue 😊
My preference design wise is the ‘67. Cleaner, more minimalist (if that could ever be said about a Caddy).
442 inches and 8 wheels of beauty.
An Olds with extra spare tires?
@@rogersmith7396 those Eldos are 221 inches long
The interiors are cozy.@@toguro1009
Your '67 example has the better of the two interiors -which really pops with the red color. Immaculate condition though -both of these. I'd be hard pressed to pick one over the other...
One thing that always bothered me was the "cost cutting" aspect. If I started off owning a chevy, I would expect options to save weight, cost, price.etc. But if I became successful in life and could buy a Cadillac, I would expect real wood grain, gauges instead of blanks.etc.
GM is in the business of making money not cars. They of course used to make refrigerators and washers. These days they seem to be ineffective at doing anything. They are run by Wall Street to maximize share holder value. RIP. They will never again produce greatness.
I had a 1968 caddy convertible
Kudos to you for owning both cars. They are so gorgeous.
The first generation FWD Eldorado is, in my opinion, one of few cars, that actually benefited visually from switching to exposed headlamps. Together with the fender located parking lamps the look is quite elegant.
Great comparison. My first choice will always be the 1968 Eldorado. I never cared for the dashboard used in the 1969 ‘70 Cadillacs. It looked cheap for a luxury car IMO.
I agree that the Cadillac wreath & crest on the sail panel looks better. That's one reason I like the 67s over the 68s.
Regarding your price comparison in today's money I agree that the $6,000 car then would be a $60,000 car now. But that was the base price; most were optioned up to 2000 more.. making most 8000 then and translating the 80,000 now. I was only a boy at the time I remember how people commented on the extra high cost back then. Totally out of thr reach the most people. And even people that could squeeze themselves into the base Cadillac or Lincoln we're not able to get into an Eldorado or a Mark 3. Lastly, Cadillac intoduced the dual brake system in '62. All cars were mandated to have the feature in '67.
Thank you Adam for another excellent video! It helped end the horrible day of mine into a very pleasant evening. Greg in California
There is an original price list on the internet. How cheap things were will make you cry. The big option was a sunroof for around $900 which is very rare. The second big one was the level ride also for $900. Bucket seats/console was another option. I would go with the 60/40 power seat on a car this size. The rest of the options could be had for around $500 total. Our 70 cost $6600 which agrees with the internet. The MKIII was a lot more, over $8000. Next door neighbor had one. Dad tried to trade the Eldo for a MKIII and was given the bums rush. He was pissed beyond words.
@rogersmith7396 I think you got your '70 at a big negotiated discount price. Coupe deVilles all stickered between 7200 and 7800 on the Dealer's lot with the normal options at that time. The Eldos were close to 9000 at that time . It was $6600 base price to which you added air conditioning, leather interior , cruise control, stereo radio, tilt steering wheel, six-way power seat, power door locks, Etc which added 1800 -2,000 extra. Back then, dealers would give big discounts if you purchased in late summer just before the new models of the next year were arriving. The thing for sure was that in 1967, the Eldorado was not getting any discounts because was brand-new and highly prized.
I don't disagree. The reason we did'nt get a Lincoln was because they were sticker only. Dad said lets get a new car and we drove to downtown KC. Wait in the Cad while I go get the car. When he came back he was cussing and seething. No Lincoln. GM dealers were famous for discounts, Lincoln dealers were not. But my internet info confirms what I know about our purchase. And our car was not fully optioned. It was gold which I consider to be the best color. Not a lot pig. As the 71 was completely different they may have wanted to move them before they were stuck with them. He replaced it with a downsized 77 DeVille. The last Triumph TR 6 in town went for over $7000 with hard top in 76. I picked out a 73 Camaro in burnt orange metallic for him and it was $3800 delivered. I hit a dog in the snow with it driving home from the dealer. The dog was OK. The expensive cars were all for mom and me. I went to a poor high school and drove the Eldo or my motorcycle to school. It kind of stood out among the beaters and Ford Falcons. He almost never drove them. Thats why when he got the lemon Eldo diesel he dumped it in a hot dam. He did'nt want her calling him on the phone saying it broke down again. Still we had one of the best cars in the neighborhood. A Dr. had like a Benz 230 but they were thought to be weird hupmobile somethings. One guy had an Excaliber but that was'nt a daily driver. A funeral director had grey Cads out the ying yang. Our 70 had all the options you cite plus floor mats and trunk mats. No level ride. The cruise control broke after a year and was'nt fixed. The lawyer down the street was on retainer from an Olds dealership and he got a new Toro every year. Guy across the street drove a Rambler American for years. I have gotten steep discounts on special orders. Dad got some money off on his 66 Mustang during a shortage. Depends on how well the dealer is hooked up. I flew to Chicago to pick up a special order Saab 900 the local dealer could'nt get. I already knew the discount price and I did'nt even argue with the dealer. He nearly fell out of his chair. I gave him a cashiers check from the largest bank in MO. and he thought I printed it in the basement. Still have the Saabs and the Mcycle. Well to do grandma had lots of Lincolns and Cads. She would have me drive her every where. Don't think she ever drove me. I would drive to her house in the Eldo then we got in her DeVille and I would drive her. I guess the Eldo meant I was trustworthy. Not well to do grandpa drove a Catalina then a Ford Fairmont. He had the only Mopar in the family when I was a kid. A Dodge with tail fins. Now I have a Jeep.
@@rogersmith7396 thank you for sharing !😀
Any time he trots out the Eldo I share a lot. Buicks not so much. I keep telling him to do an Avanti or top end Grand Prix. Today I told him about a Nash Metro for sale here and there was a 72 Cougar in dark red that knocked my socks off. He can do more than land yachts.@@gregt8638
Awesome Comparison of these two Very Classy Cadillac Eldorados, Adam😊🙌
Both are just beautiful cars. Great video.
Was initially going to go with the 69 because of its tail end but the 67 interior has it beat hands down!
Still love the over all exterior design of the 69 but the dial up cruise control and interior of the 67 wins.
I really enjoy your well thought out videos.
Other than the lack of the square mirror I like the 67 better.I think the front is very handsome
Such beautiful, elegant, crisp styling. For me, even with the vinyl roof; maybe even partly because of it, I like the 69 better. The front end styling to me is much cleaner.
One of a kind Halo roof. Look closely, its completely different from any other car.
Hands down, the ‘67. I thin it was a mistake to eliminate the concealed headlamps. The exposed lamps make the car look heavy and chunky and they detract from the rest of the car’s lines, where as the concealed lamps contribute to the car’s svelte lines and attitude.
My fave is 1970 with the "8.2 litre" badge on the grille.
Hi Adam, both great, but the 67 is absolutely Gorgeous and that cannot be denied. Thanks again for a GREAT video. !!!
Great video tour. Excellent job showing the differences between the years. I always loved this gen Eldo and learned a few things with your video. I prefer the 67s front end better and pretty much neutral on the rest of the styling. But I do prefer the 69s electrics over the 67s vacume system. Also seems like a few less issues with the 472 over the 429 by your discription. Thanks very much.
Another great video on this platform.
Great review. Love to see one on the Riviera and Toronado of the same years.
My Dad had a 1968 fully loaded Eldo. (the car that hooked me on Cadillacs) Metallic Brown, Tan interior, Vinyl top. Still to this day it's my favorite Cadillac. I remember washing it and looking at the details of the lighting and even at 9 years old liking it better than the 1967. I didn't like the turn signal placement on the 1967. Had the fender on the 67 been all one piece without filler it would have been outstanding but the filler looked after thought or that it didn't belong. I did also really like the 69 and 70 although not a fan of the razor tail lights. 1968 is my vote.
Thanks for the video!
Thx Adam!
I'm having difficulty in understanding why the chrome piece around the rear window on the 67 Eldo is painted black. I find it hard to believe that it was originally painted that way from the factory. Is it possible that the 67 Eldo had a vinyl top and it was removed at one point and then the top was painted along with that chrome piece?? By the way, if I had to choose which one I prefer, I would go with the 67. But I believe that the 71 and 72 Eldos were absolutely beautiful. My high school band director had a 72 Eldo convertible and it was just so strikingly beautiful. He always got to the school early and parked it right in front and had the top down. He only drove it on clear days. Great video!
I too found the black painted rear window trim to be odd.
The 1967 wins with exterior styling. The grille is beautiful and the wheels are sporty. No vinyl roof gives it a more sporty, elegant look. The interior on the 67 looks retro and sporty, while the interior in the 69 looks more contemporary and relaxing.
Another great video Adam. Both of these vehicles, as you stated have their strengths. If I was looking to buy one, it would come down to what condition I could find at what price.
That's the most intelligent way to make a choice. While condition is "everything", overall value for the dollar is likely the determining factor when buying.
Love your videos Adam.If I had to pick it would be the 67.
Two classic automobiles! Beautiful Cadillacs!
The ‘67 is the clear winner. Interesting that GM’s habit of de-contenting a car each year subsequent to first introducing it started in the 60s (or was it earlier) to improve profitability.
The 67 is the one. Absolutely gorgeous. I first saw this cadillac in the movie casino and instantly fell in love.
The enclosed side mirror was introduced in 68 and the dual chamber master cylinder was introduced in 1962 Cadillacs
Thanks for your hard work Adam 👍
I actually prefer the 69. Mostly due to the exterior and interior color combo and it just seems a little cleaner overall. On a side note maybe it is just my device but your last couple of videos seem like the volume is too low.
I agree with the comment about the volume.
Great stuff - you do an incredible job!
Love the 67, especially the slick top like yours. Not that I'd kick the 69 out of the garage. Very articulate description of both cars. I've subscribed.
Surprising cars of that calibre have only one side view mirror.
My 70 has two but you can't control it from the drivers side. Cable operated. Its just decoration. Another place to put the Cadillac script on. They are made of zinc which is a real downer.
That was a kool model too! It was featured in the movie “The Mack” as “Goldie’s ride, in that film.👍🏽