Unfair to clampdown on benefits? Feat. Rachel Charlton-Dailey, Owen Jones & Lin Mei | Alexis Conran
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2023
- The government wants to look at a clampdown on benefits, but has received objection from disabled rights campaigners who say it is hard enough to get benefits anyway.
Alexis Conran is joined by Rachel Charlton-Dailey, Owen Jones, and Lin Mei to discuss.
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As a disabled person that woman in the green dress is my enemy
Nah, your enemy are those scummy people that claim to be sick when they have nothing wrong with them at all other than being work shy. They are the ones that caused such clam down, where genuine people then end up in the crossfire.
She doesn’t care if people die.
Nope just listen to her ignorance and the way she can't wait to shut people down
Here we go again, picking on the sick & disabled, there any end to tory cruelty, go pick on the tax avoiders oh but thats your fellow ministers isn't it, disgusting to say the least.
Jolly well argued Owen. I was severely injured whilst serving with the Royal Air Force and had to attend a Jobcentre interview about my ESA claim. The idiot "advisor" asked if I had considered a cleaning job and when I said that I can't stand for any length of time he asked, and I still can't believe this came out of his mouth, "Well, can't you clean sitting down?"
I just walked away.
So, you decide to become a mercenary, get injured, and we must support you now?
I joined the RAF to do a job and that was so people like you can make statements like this without fear of censure from Big Brother. If you have an issue with this then so be it but don't belittle the job all of us decided to take on. @@laurencesmith1435
The young lady sat next to Owen is almost a caricature of the pushy and smarmy jobcentre worker. It is clear that she has no compassion or any understanding of the complex nuances of people's individual conditions, yet she appears absolutely convinced of her own righteousness as she wears that permanent smug smirk on her face.
Hidious women bangs on about working from home while conveniently ignoring the fact so many businesses are now going back on this and forcing people back to the office 😡
I am a carer and often in contact with patients afflicted by mental health issues.
Owen is absolutely right. Lin May in my opinion lives on coocoo land. She keeps banging on about jobs from home.
What jobs is she talking about?
What is the evidence of all these jobs offers?
Lin reiterates about the phenomenon of smart working like the ultimate solution. It is a very reductive and simplistic view of complex disability issues.
Disabled people with physical or mental issues are not interviewed by professionals. I have assisted people going through these interviews and none of interviews were held by health professionals in the disability field.
I noticed how very quickly the interviewer's tone became antagonistic towards the person interviewed.
The response for refusal of engagement, for instance, is coercion. The menace of punitive financial measures are put on the table quite quickly. There is absolutely no consideration of the actual impact is going to have on the disability issues wether physical or mental.
The base line seems to be an actual disbelief of the interviewer of the claimed disability despite a clear letter from health professionals like GPs.
Regrettably I have heard many times arguments from non professional like Lin May claiming that when they were on work support scheme that many wanted to do this or that and working releases pleasure and fulfillment.
It maybe true for some but it cannot used as some kind of foundation for disability policy.
Disability is an extremely difficult issue and layered with unique complexities. It can't be reduced into a package offered in offices by untrained medical professionals who can only provoke the participants with punishments and sanctions.
I am quite disconcerted by people like lLin May who believe that they can offer such a straight, reductive and shallow answer to a complex issue.
Lin appears to have received a good standard of education but at the same time she is completely wrapped up in her experience when she was involved in the work scheme program. Ms May isn't a medical professional but obviously believes she got the answers..........
Has she done any real work alongside disabled people or mental patients?
From what I seen and heard I doubt that.
Tories always pick on the weakest.
Just to answer Lins "how many then" question!
"Over 300,000 'excess' deaths in Great Britain attributed to UK Government austerity policies." - Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health
"More than 17,000 sick and disabled people have died while waiting for welfare benefits" - Independent Newspaper
Omg , she is unbelievable were is the care I would not have liked to go in front of her , nasty
I am autistic and I can only work a small amount of hours. If I work more than 14 or 16 I get too over stimulated and need more days off to recover. So forcing people with threat of no money makes disabilities worse. They feel cornered and patronised.
I am exactly the same. For thirteen years the Tories have used any financial sticky point to cut money for the poorest and disabled. Attitudes towards disabilities has become very regressive and if you have a hidden disability and aren't physically seen to be struggling, you don't stand a chance. The attitude towards work is also too black and white, the government wants everyone to be in full-time work, and that's not possible.
But you can still do some work. The government doesn't owe you a living
@@trixie60990 it owes to support people that can’t work full time. That’s what it’s there for. To support people who can’t fully support themselves.
@@michellel9595I have ADHD Asperger's OCD depression slip disc nerve damage I take a s*** ton of medication. It puts me to sleep literally sedates me
Who is she?! Her ignorance and bias is astounding
Brilliant OWEN THANKS 😊 👍 👏 PAUL
Why am I not surprised to find out that Lin Mei |was once a 'work coach' for the jackboots at the JobCenterPlus.
Well, picking on the sick and disabled is giving the asylum seekers a break!
If we didn’t have to pay so much for the illegal immigrants each day it would solve a massive amount of problems for our poor ,sick and disabled.
@@barneyrubble8590 If THEY did their job and processed the claims as required, the system wouldn't be log-jammed and those entitled to remain here could be working and paying taxes in this country. That would help in caring for our poor, sick and disabled. The neglect of whom by the way, is not the fault of asylum seekers!
@@carolkelly5578 where do they live and who pays rent for them before they earn their money and pay their taxes,it all adds up we still need help for our needy FIRST.Houses are being built, but quantity of people living here every year going up it'll never catch up.
Yes, start with pensions. Those people are creaming it off the state. And private landlords stealing housing benefit, as a country we cannot afford it anymore.
Well said Owen.Thank you.Keep up the good work
Well done Owen! 👏👏👏😂😂😂
Ugh, that woman is horrible. She is not listening. The majority of work in this world is not flexible, you can’t show up one day and not the next. Does she think that jobs like she suggests come from the sky? If the role is not available, you can’t apply for it.
Reality is, they are taking from the poor and vulnerable rather than target the people with the real money that could fill the hole in this country’s finances.
She’s in cloud cuckoo land
1 hour a day That’s a tenner then
Nothing about us without us.
Stop giving French Government money and stop paying £2 million fixing up Parliament every day
Been here done that how many died. Nusing homes rest homes how many died ?
Ugh Lin is so smug and snide
Just to show how much she lives in lala land. I know somebody after 2 hearts attacks told by his consultant he can no longer told by the DWP he must work.
Yeah everybody loves that feeling when your boss tells you what to do! I get all giddy and feel my life is fulfilled!😂😂😂 this girl.
My PIP petition was one that pushed for changes! I Have TONS to say on this!!!
If someone is not engaging with you, then I think you have to ask yourself why? There could be many reasons…..perhaps they are totally humiliated, frustrated, I’ll, exhausted with the system, depressed, patronised, feeling unsupported, feels threatened by someone or the possible sanctions, etc, etc
Well reasoned arguments from Owen again. The other woman - clueless.
Well said Owen
Did he rely say to over come your mentel illness thats a massive insult!!! Yeah let me just wish my disorders away 😒
I’m sorry but the work programs done work they only help you if it will help there numbers from experience , I’ve had a stroke among other things and it was extremely hard to get my disability and needed to complain and have a review they’ll lie and twist your words, they shame you for your disability’s and it’s not ok. The current system needs revisiting on who they get to asses and how they asses, you also need recent letters from professional which isn’t always how it works, often you’ll get letters and then those letters will stop
If you are sick or disabled or both then yes it is unfair, unless there is some sort of alternative system for them.
Having a disability doesn't mean you cant do some work. Its not an all or nothing thing. People just dont like change
But she has no medical training, no idea.
owen jones just demolish her, man.
I bet Lin Mei loved dishing out sanctions
Most people would like to work
It isn’t about age…….37 years old……is not relevant…..
one of the biggest things to make mental health worse, is to sit there and do nothing all day, those with depression as an example. it is a medical fact that they get worse if they do nothing. so allowing those with depression to sit at home on welfare. is not helping, they should be made to work interact with other people etc. not sit looking at the same four walls with their thoughts making things worse.
You don’t know the individual. Not all workplaces are suitable. Everyone is different.
Made to 🤔
Criminal……..
How many people are disabled in Britain , Anybody out there with the actual figures ? I’m asking because if there’s a significant amount then any real help that can be given, might benefit enough of them to make it a good thing , when I say benefit I mean mentally and possible job satisfaction, of course it has to be done as a compassionate exercise, not as a cash saving enterprise, and If the figures are nothing compared to the overall population, then the Government should concentrate on their job,
5.4million disabled on disability benefits
yes it’s unfair
she saying she loved to work and her body wont allow it,Plenty of more easy Jobs out there,What about working in an office doing telephone work,Sitting all day using your mouth to speak to Customers or maybe working for a Bingo company,Just sitting down calling out numbers,Or working in a shop sitting down at the till serving customers,She saying her body wont allow to work,So many other jobs out there,Not doing much for hard work,Just think of the wages £££££££££££££ or rather live on Benefit and get £££ small amount to survive on
She hasn’t got a clue
Vote Labour Conservatives party out. Labour is not going to have a huge majority. Not true Labour needs every single vote. Every vote counts vote Labour
Wow the women on 19:40 is ridiculous
Shouty pushy madam typical of her kind can’t be wrong - people with pain and exhaustion would be bullied by her not helped
The only people who think this is unfair are those who receive these benefits for no reason, and there are plenty of them,
The only people who don't think it's unfair have absolutely no ability for empathy whatever. Even though it doesn't affect them directly, they need something on that particular day to moan about & so take their selfish issues (in their own sad lives) out on the suffering of others who are less fortunate. No compassion & no heart. Yes, I'm talking about you.
@Melanie_Star in 1976 I was involved in a serious motorcycle accident resulting in 18 months on the sick 6 of them in hospital, my right leg was crush and I was lucky not to lose it, the end result was a two inch shortening in the leg, little ankle movement and solid toes, I could have started winging and moaning that I needed invalidity benefits for the rest of my life, instead I took some of my compensation from the driver (its nearly always the drivers fault) and took my HGV test and worked till I retired 5 years ago, so don't tell me I need some empathy for the lazy bastards who don't even try to work and are quite happy to sit on their fat arses at the taxpayers expense
@@CB1000FP1 Who are you to judge others though? You've got no idea of people's individual struggles or whether they are genuine in their cases or not. I'm sorry to hear about your accident, but not everyone gets comp & are so forced to live off the measley amount given by the government.
I have many grievances but I prefer to not trauma dump & share my story online. The irony of you complaining about the "lazy bastards" who claim as though they are less than you for needing/wanting & asking for support, while at the same time pleading your own victim card & expecting people who read this to feel sorry for you, in the same paragraph, is amusing.
@Melanie_Star I don't expect or care if anyone feels sorry for me, I'm merely pointing out that just because you recieve a injury doesn't mean you should stop work and spend the rest of you life expecting the taxpayers to fund your lifestyle, I know it happens and you know it happens, two of my mates both like me in there 70s are still working both have gotten over cancer, I also know several younger people who have had minor injuries or medical problems and who play the system and freely admit they are not planning on going to work anytime soon even though they are quite capable of doing so, I happily admit there are people who can't work and have to rely on benefits thats fair enough, but the fact is many of them can work and should be made to
There is not one single person receiving these benefits for "no reason". They are virtually impossible to claim even with a valid disability and vast amounts of medical evidence from medical professionals. You are clearly just a troll wanting attention; sad.
Yes clampdown on the benefit system.
How about clamp down on the MP expenses system and the handing out billions in dodgy contracts system?
Rather than taking from the poorest and most vulnerable?
Anyone who thinks it's easy, hasn't ever tried to apply for ESA or PIP.
Also, the benefits system supports many local and national businesses, not just 'scroungers'
Stop everyone's welfare payments (including the state pension, or is that ok?) and see what happens.
Poor people have to spend all their money every month, meaning a constant flow of revenue to local and national businesses, the rich can just shift it offshore.
Hope you never get disabled, mate. It’s going to be a bit of a shock for you.
yes because everyone who is on benefits is disabled. Get a grip. @@demeterontheinternet
@@keithpanton7486 or both. But since you brought it up. Their expenses, on the grand scheme of things is pennies compared to the 10s of billions spent on welfare every year