Should I re-apply Singapore PR again? *Failed Twice* As a Hong Konger
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true born HK-er here. i came to SG 12 years ago and i only got my PR at 4th attempt. just keep applying when you change jobs with better salary, having longer staying duration in SG, showingmore contribution to SG economy and society. i have converted to citizen last year and it has been awesome. hope you can get your PR soon. cheers
One of us! One of us! Welcome to the SG family 🤩👐
@@hiroyukishinichi9873 新 新加坡人。New Singaporean.
Totally agreed with halloworld comment(also K妈's commentsin this video) In order to obtain PR status quickly, it's best to have a full time job with a stable income,to prove that you have the ability to support yourself, as well as able to contribute to SG economy...I have friends who married to Singaporean but become a stay at home mother, also failed PR applications miserably.
K妈 can get her PR partly because of her husband working here.
Done done and Thank you for choosing Sg your place to live. Congrats and welcome
因为之前有许许多多利用取得新加坡PR 当跳板移民到外国的例子，新加坡移民局现在非常谨慎，必须非常确定申请人具有强烈的归属感，有落地生根的意愿，并将会对新加坡的经济做出贡献的人，才会颁发PR 身份。要证明以上事实，这过程肯定不会是一年两年的事，即使与新加坡人结婚也是不容易取得PR ，目的是为了防止假结婚事件。所以除了结婚，生育下一代来表明申请人具有在这块土地上生根并繁育的意愿非常重要！
這個應該不適於香港人，香港人要去其他國家不用新加坡做為跳板。
@@888tonyip 我不是指香港人。至于什么国家的人，心照不宣，画公仔不必画出肠，你知我知。但是现在太多外国人想取得新加坡PR, 宁少勿滥，选择权在我们手里，就是只重质不重量。瞧连投资移民都提高到美金1000万元了！
@@sp53 我是香港出生新加坡公民，我在這裡待了30年。你講的話，很貼切。尤其是大陸配偶常常這樣玩。
結婚都冇得變公民🤣🤣
@@888tonyip香港人本身就有得直接去英國，使乜用新加坡做跳板
Oh irene, don't give up. Would love you to be Singaporean. We need more Irenes..love to watch 妳的youtube 作品啊！
我都係香港人，同你差唔多時間嚟新加坡，早你兩個月到。
留夠兩年半先apply PR，6個月左右approve 左。
加油！Good luck!!! 我等你的好消息～😚
我申请时是单身，在新工作了3年。记得检查清楚申请文件。申请期间我都没有出国。等候6个月就收到好消息。加油↖(^ω^)↗
K妈别忘了做慈善义工, 准备好申请公民身份。对新加坡的承诺非常重要[落地生根]。听从我的建议。当我有时间时，我会向您发email，并解释为什么我说您的家庭资料符合 SG 政府对公民的要求。并解释选择新公民的基本思路。你的家庭机会很好, IMO。
Might be because K妈 is married and has a young kid. SG government feel that not only she can contribute, but 小K might be able grow up in sg and contribute too. After all, the government has been very family and kid friendly cos of the greying population. Good luck and all the best!
That is simply her husband has a better salary and comes from HK.
@@xiaohaosei That's probably just part of the reason.
Don't give up! I have known of friends who needed to try a few times b4 getting their PR status. Just keep trying!!! Best wishes!!!
I remember 20 years ago, my friend who is from China, just graduated from ntu and immediately receive a letter to take up citizenship. Not even pr or anything, it’s citizenship! She was on dean’s list. She rejected because she wanted to return to China, said she has got to be loyal to China报效祖国 lor 😅. Somehow she stayed for 20 years and got citizenship again with just 1 application. Her PR status was also upon invitation letter last time. I guess it has got to do with her good results in ntu and she being the departmental head and head researcher with dsta (government statutory board).
Don't understand why the motivation to leave China & be citizens elsewhere.
China looks like it's where the future is. Also China seems to be a gigantic version of Singapore anyway - but with large natural resources, landmass & where 7 of the world's top 10 best universities are located.
There is also no way any foreigner can be a citizen of China, the best being PR being married to their locals.
What's wrong with being citizens of China ?
In China, the so called talents will be competing with millions of others with higher calibre. Over in SG, they can easily surpass and outshine majority of the locals.
Hi Irene,
One of my friend who wife is from Taiwan after she came here to work also. Like you she did apply a few times for PR but was rejected. After they register their marriage then she finally got her PR.
There are quota for SG PR application approval based on nationality every year. So there are competition among them, thus re-apply within short period may not be wise. You should upgrade yourself in-term of education & work advancement to keep yourself stay competitive.
Be patience Irene, we know u have 2 failed attempts. But good thing come to those who wait. Wish your dream true, hope your next video with be announcing your success in getting your PR
Re-applying PR when nothing change except little increase in salary shows that PR application is too cheap and everyone is applying it like buying TOTO. Have you found out why you fail the last time? It could be due to small error with your documents, for example documents not endorsed, not translated....If its due to mistake on your part and it keeps repeating, you deserve to be rejected for wasting their time since you are not interested. They might even tell you when is the best time to reapply again after you improve on the criteria that you have not met.
Keep it up, Don't give up! Wishing you best of luck.
Difference between SG vs HK is that in SG, tax can be paid in instalments without interest whereas in HK, you have to take out a tax loan from a commercial bank with interest.
Keep applying and don't give up Irene,
明白Irene想靠自己能力拿到PR status..现在真的有点难度，但希望你成功。。K妈的衣服颜色跟芒果冰一样😄。
I am also from HK, I have got my pr in 2016 after working in singapore for 2 years. Hope you can get it soon.
果陣都等左一年先有消息
The renewal of EP may fail usually is due to the company's "performance" when hiring locals/foreigners. If the company has been under watchlist or have not been making effort to hire locals or have been banned by MOM, it affects the EP renewal of existing employees
Good information on getting SG PR. Hope her next attempt would be a success of getting SG PR. Welcome to Singapore. Try to be bilingual or tri-lingual in Singapore 4 official languages. Can fit well in the Singapore environment.
Keep applying. Your sincerity being tested.
Yes , regretfully there’s a lot of foreigners applying for PR status here , so criteria is set higher & higher .
Upgrade yourself with higher salary income , No harm to keep trying application & wishing U success in your
PR application in due time . 😘
Yes lah , try and try again, show your resilience and sincerity, as in future even more difficulty to apply
Irene, 你要把你所有资产转来新加坡 证明你是有诚意。 新加坡要的是 落地生根 而不是 落叶归根。
最好你拿大量錢到新加坡創業，聘用大批新加坡人。政府立即叫你不要走。看看聯華電子的曹興誠就知道了。
HK-er here as well (late 20s, single when I applied). I got my PR application in one attempt in 2020 after moving here in 2018. Proving integration with Singapore society and attaching a resume / reference letter / cover letter makes a difference. Would recommend not to apply again unless you have a material change in your application. Happy to chat more about it and good luck
Via work pass? :)
@@devina7776 Yes! I think that's the easiest
For Hker 在新加坡工作和逗留的时间越长，获得永久居留权的机会就越大。对于具备新加坡所需技能的毕业生来说尤其如此。不要气馁。有时，仅在第 4-5 年才获得批准。
I always like both Karman and your show… yes, a lot of comments about PR application. My own personal thought is that, it is best to apply if there is a change in your local status, e.g. married, or you did some contribution to local community e.g. volunteer etc. if not, then wait for a full yr and try again and that will be betting on the number of tries which is not really ideal.
我係香港人，細個時候，已經去左新加坡讀書，然後選擇有當兵 ( 回想返，應該係一生人最正確的決定 )，所以當完就自動有國籍，然後就返左去香港做野，好多年都無理會新加坡，而加正在計劃回歸，但遇到最大的問題，係生活成本同居住問題，仲有重新建立公民義務，人際關係等等，最煩係另一半，要結婚但知道好難搞得掂 PR，尤其係大陸人，基本條件比較弱 ... 起初以為有新加坡護照及「紅登記」，已經比好多人幸運，但都係一樣會面對其他經濟問題，自己一個要留下，無問題，時間上可以克服，但另一半係外國人，就要面對漫長的PR申請，需要 upgrade 有利條件 ... 總之新加坡人身份，而加好值錢！祝福王小虎最後可以成功申請到 PR !
I think don't reapply so frequently, best once a year. Of course marriage to Singapore citizen is still the number one scenario because Singapore government is urgently promoting setting up family with babies. So singles will find it more difficult to apply PR or SG citizenship compared to married couples.
Yes , because the condition and judging criteria is still the same, result by default will be still the same
Wishing you success in applying Singapore PR.
Getting a PR nowadays is undeniably getting more difficult as the govt have raised the bar on the criteria. Even if you have been unsuccessful twice, do not be disheartened and continue to apply once you are eligible again. Am sure you should be successful eventually. Another route to fast track your application and stand a better chance is thru marriage to a Singaporean. Since you already have a Singaporean boyfriend, and I assume both of you will eventually get married. Once married, if you are still unsuccessful, you can apply on account of your status as the wife of a Singaporean, and will stand a even better chance if you have a stable job, and especially if you have a Singaporean child. Good luck to you!
bcos so many arrangements marriage license plate LAh 🤭
One reason why PR cant be granted do easily is because foreigners assume that marriage id the easy way to get PR. WRONG!
maybe some consideration,
- try to apply PR after u have 3 years of income tax to show your contribution to SG
- marriage
- check the company financial where u work during application is good or not
- if possible, try not to change company during PR application
please re-apply for PR .. and hope u get your PR soon
Only re-apply if you have fresh credentials like better job, new qualification, new marital status etc~ don't apply if the support documents remain the same as previous application~ also search online, if you had posted any activists message in hk before~ lastly good luck~ 😁
Hope u apply for pr again so that u can be part of the Singapore family. Good luck.
Just keep continue and reapply PR, as at this point of time, will need to consider about family, marriage and next leap of journey.
Keep trying and trust me if you are Chinese it is easier to get PR, just that every batch of PR application has a quota but you will get it eventually.
Actually the reason why housing is getting more and more ex in sg is due to the rising household income. Cos' many foreigners are getting higher and higher pay in the hope of getting a PR. After getting a PR, they will buy HDB flats which are supposed to be subsided flats for citizens. This drive up the demand and that's why you can see more and more flats are being built everywhere in sg. And price are getting higher as PRs are getting richer and willing to pay more for better location and facilities. Many also have bought a condo even. I am sure you will get your PR one day when you have worked here long enough. Don't give up. Gambatte.😀
Easier to get PR
-Upgrade your education and skill
-Find higher salary job and your job must stable
-Through marriage but husband income must high. If the husband received low income and the job is not stable , forget about PR
-Do not leave Singapore for three years
-Investment
🤷♀️ I won’t even want to stay in a country that doesn’t welcome you. Also, Sgp is not a great country to stay and live at all.
大概－個國家會特別考慮移民申請者嘅未來能為國家帶來什麼好處、如果年輕適齡、巳婚（不會幫自己國家內嘅兩性爭伴侶）有好的工作也有年幼小朋友、即代表你有能力為這地方未來提供生產力及更多優質勞動人口、國家也可以省卻一些麻煩吧。
Just want to say don't loose hope! Keep on trying! You'll succeed one day! But one thing I heard is that getting married doesn't guarantee an instant approval. It's still a case by case situation, as far as I know. All the best to you my friend.
You should interview my ex-colleague. It is because she's from Hong Kong too.
She's been Singapore PR for 10 years and above. She can share the experience on this matter with you both.
Why not go to Canada or Australia? I thought that is the favorites' destination of Hong Kong people..
UK also
pr allows u to change job a lot easier compare to a foreigner. also allow u to work part time, pay less income tax (cpf amount is non taxable), buy property with less levy etc etc. ONLY apply for pr again if there is improvement in ur status (salary, education, job etc etc). Application fee is only SGD100 so dont give up trying.
Try getting married first and you probably get it in 3-5 years old. Don't skip the steps. My wife is a foreigner too.
By the way, keep on applying. If you apply, you got a chance. If you don't apply, you will never get it. Wouldn't be expecting ICA to gift you right? Haha. And the application isn't that expensive anyway. It's money well spent.
Don’t be sad, you are not actually missing out on anything… I was working in Singapore and had successfully got my PR application on the first time. Same for my driver’s’ license exam too without even studying it. As not being PR, you have more freedom to go to casino and getting duty free stuff. Once you become PR, they treat you like a citizen but not with the same status.
To be honest, I also gave up my PR a few years after getting it as I don’t like the lifestyle and the work life balance… I am in Australia and I think it’s a better place. I’ve tried life in condos and HDB, I really prefer living in a house and getting a better car than paying for COE. I can blast TV or music in the house anytime and there’s no weird cooking smells from neighbours. I prefer more steak and wine but these aren’t easily available, same as “fresh” seafood… HK style fresh, not ASEAN style fresh. Think about your long term goals before jumping onto the PR bandwagon… and I’d like to congratulate PAP in winning the upcoming elections to come. You have to look deeper for your destiny and if it’s the place you like to retire. Think about if the old HK is not going to be there anymore 😢
在新加坡讀過大學的外國人申請SGPR就很容易.新加坡大學畢業後.工作一年申請PR就通過了.這樣通過率很高.又快又容易.其他之前和新加坡沒有任何關聯外國人只是拿工作簽證來的現在申請PR很難.很多拒絕了
點解一定要留喺新加坡？不如帶ah boy一齊到香港闖。7年後佢就可以申請香港永久居民，簡單好多。
Since the system allows you to reapply, might just also let them know you're Irenerene HK, an accoplished UA-camr with really good contribution to Singapore. Don't underestimate it because you're really good at introducing Singapore to people in a very genuinely wonderful manner. It might just tip the point in you favour!
It has definitely gotten harder. Marry a Singaporean I think will improve your chances. When I got it was 12 years ago, I am a Chinese Canadian.
希望你能结婚，However, Only if you're comfortable of course!
Just keep applying! 😄 加油！
Do keep trying as long as it is what you desired. It is definitely not impossible to get it approved.
Most of the application for PR only recent their approval only after the 3rd try's. Your 3rd trys will be successful. Good luck!😊😊Also get married to a Singaporean and have a kid. This is to prevent false marriages.
I think with kids will be easier to get PR if other factor being equal. With PR, school fee will be lowered
Yes, I do have a Japanese girlfriend. She and her husband are applying for Singapore PR.
They stay and work in Singapore for 1 year. Based on the information give by Ms Karman, they did wrote it in the form too.
They submitted their application since 5th January 2023. Till now, they hasn't got the news from them.
So they have to continue and wait for it
Wow! you have a japanese gf with a husband! wow,wow!
Only 3rd attempt? There are foreigner from US staying here for 17 years still applying (from Max vlog). So don't give up and i think your chance is higher.
Link to the channel/video?
You are absolutely right. Our DBS CEO was an Indian working in Singapore for 12 years then got his PR not too long ago. His annual income reported is S$14 millions. So nothing is taking for granted. Needs to try harder but if the last application and the next application dun have much difference in employment , salary, and marriage status, forget about applying. It may not be successful and records of too many failed attempts within a short period may not have given a good impression to ICA.
Hello, you people, Irene's case is very different, she can have a shortcut to her pr and citizenship, however, she just doesn't want to depend on her sg boy boy!
你係自己申請定係搵agent代辦呀？我都打算在12月，孩子在新加坡出生後才申請。
Don't bother those haters. Apply when you ready🇸🇬
K媽應該是跟老公依親過來的，申請一家人的PR應該是她老公交表吧。有可能是她老公所屬的行業在新加坡較難找到相關工作經驗的本地人或者缺人。她説過老公是被獵頭看上的
Irene u go marry Sg guy..than apply.. The chances of getting is 100% higher 😊
Ice cream is melting!!!!
Yes, continue applying ...
Miss Irene r u something wrong ? Why SG govt reject u never think? First u never work in singapore base company your currently company is base in HK. Which country would give PR to a outsider who can leave any time any moment PR ? Next why don u get marry to your SG boyfriend ? U never give your basic commitment to SG so how u expect SG to give u PR? U see karman is marry n her 1st apply get PR. Why? Karman husband apply his singapore base job plus married stutus sure first time apply sure 80% get PR
Good explanation.
Just go ur resident community members be rc member soon your pr is more easy convert. You also can take video what your rc doing.
Aside from the usual academic & career qualifications, maybe you want to consider doing some kind of community or volunteer work, to showcase your love & commitment to the country & its people. Think about it: SG has no shortage of highly qualified, well paid or high net worth foreigners, and if they leave, there are plenty of others who will take their place. So what makes you special? Sell us your story of why you want to be here. Convince us that you’re not just applying for the benefits, but that you can contribute to us as well…
继续申请，加油！
Dave n Steve, 2 youtubers from HK. Steve got his PR but not Dave. Why leh?
加油加油
我是工作4年才申请
政策已经改变 PR 现在已经没那么容易申请到了 因为想进来的人太多,
在新加坡讀過大學的外國人申請PR就容易.工作一年後申請就批了
My spouse applied 3rd times then success, as for my ex collegue also 3rd times then success for PR.
tell the ica officer off there a ageing island give the young a PR to become citizens in 2,or 3 yrs if not we move to other place the full package links of taxes to the government and other services this new PR gives benefit society
The mango ice 🤤🤤I need it
Security and Stability is the core of Success‼
看来自从小irene父母来看楼以后，小irene是认真地在进行中。走新加坡路线啦，先注册别办婚礼，然后拿marriage certificate 叫ah boy去MP那里闹，说不能申请买组屋，希望MP能帮忙，MP看你是EP就会帮忙写信或提议他买楼管道。
Did you use any agency?
S'pore is good for life of living‼👍👍
Dun give up so easily. You may try to ask company issue testimonial and submit it together with 3rd attempt. Good luck
More important is the Income Tax receipt lah....LOL
Yes, try again.
I think Irene has no choice but to reapply PR until sucessful. Why? Because going back to HK would be unthinkable in terms of prices of housing, living cost, etc. HK is crazy. Its impossible to get public housing. Its like a 15 year wait list. Meanwhile private apartment cost upwards of HKD10m. You will wipeout all savings + owe bank alot of money. You will not be able to live the same lifestyle like you did in Singapore.
Your friend Carmen does not look like HKer.
I applied Singapore PR long time ago and approved! It could be a lot easier that time.
I have been staying in the states to work after graduate and got the green card. The stress to get the PR in the states was just the same as yours!
这几年 多呆在新加坡，别一空闲就跑回香港会让移民局觉得你不认真
They like high skilled worker, rich person, they like to see you have a lot of cash in your bank account. They like to see your social impact too.
I was offered PR many years ago soon after working after graduating from NUS .
I didn’t even apply.
Well you are a passerby
That was when policeman worn short pant...LOL. Some foreigners working in same company also get pestered to take citizenship. Those not interested move away to Australia and Canada.
your fren is right..get married is easier.apply for bto if your bf is singaporean
Dont waste your money to apply PR as there is no material change in your status quo. I rather u wait and settle down as u get older as whether Singapore is the right place for you.
Dont apply for the sake of applying-unless your heart and mind really want to settle down in Singapore.
哎呦，若是没想当新加坡公民，又何必申请PR呢。若申请只是为了长期工作，还不如不要的好。毕竟新加坡PR 是有期限的而不是永久的。PR都是有家庭申请比较容易的。尤其是有小孩的。若是单身，多等等多申请几年吧。
My Chinese colleague married with primary school children. 2019 came. 2022 got PR. They don't need you. They want your children 😂😂
My son already 2 years old then I managed to apply PR for my spouse.
有些人申請PR只是方便自己出入新加坡！地小人多！沒辦法需要時間！！
Real Singaporeans are already having a very hard time in Singapore getting jobs, surviving and even housing. Why must you add to the growing social problem when you can easily go to UK.
Its a you problem not a foreigner or singaporean problem. People like you will have a hard time finding jobs with or without foreigners because of your entitled mentality.
Usually it takes 4 to 5 attempts
To be honest, the advantages of getting a PR is getting more limited. Especially for HKERS, use to be HDB is a good attraction for obtaining PR. But with HDB and housing prices getting more expensive, flats getting smaller (becoming like HK).... there isn't any attractiveness to being a PR or Citizen.
There are so much more demand of other factors that come to play besides HDB... quality of life, children up bringing...etc. sorry to say that SG is really lack off.
But at least a PR, gives some assurance on jobs... And also, with PR... You don't have to be COMMITTED to live in SG, if some thing bad happens, you can always leave and return to your country of CITIZENSHIP.
Don't forget, you can't carry dual citizenship if you want to be citizens. Or perhaps, just get PR and stay as a PR.
Why would someone from big prosperous countries want to become a resident/citizen of a small island? Hmm..
Many big prosperous countries are not so prosperous now, no job in these countries. Bo bian, Singapore’s economy booming now so even though here is boring, no mountains to climb and all artificial man-made, food is also salty and so so, barbarian law with death penalty and no chewing gums, well, need to tong first. Use Singapore as stepping stone and later move to the west…
@@summerapple7062 Totally agreed...it is time to reflect the usefulness of SG.
@@gotmyonu1027 hdb is still a good reason. Have you seen apartments in HK? HK$10m gets you 200+ sqft of private apartment. Public housing? Forget it. 15 year waitlist min. Meanwhile 4 room 1000sqft HDB in marsiling and woodlands going for $300+k after subsidies but no takers.
@@xxxcool2565 some what agree....... Just hope that SG govt housing won't follow HK (becoming smaller, more compact and more expensive.
By the way, have you seen the new HDB that are built? They look so much like flats in HK, HBD, squeezing more smaller units and
Windows are really small.
PR 都不是永久的，而是每五年审俭一次， 新国政府会写信请你入籍新加坡公民， 如果你回决几次，那你的（REP）入境准证会吊消，那等于PR取消了。
PR 都不是永久的 但是盖5次都已经可以住25年啦
问题在你如何回新国政府的邀入籍信，可能不到5年就收到了
PR是永久的， 是REP不是永久的，可是只要人在新加坡REP就是无害的。
政府会觉得你留在新加坡不长久，过不久就回去香港了。
Wish you luck.
I don't remember hearing that one must get married to become PR. I wonder if the place of birth matters. Some confused the meaning of Place of Birth & Country of Birth. Did you state your place of birth as Hong Kong or China in the application?
Exactly
She didnt say must married to become PR. She said there is higher chance... 😅
Huh? What's the diff? HK is China...
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The other day, another UA-camr Ghib San managed to get PR after one year. I think he has got something to show for contribution to Singapore via his UA-cam videos introducing Singapore internationally in English although he mix in with some Japanese. For you, your audience is limited to those who can understand Cantonese and I don’t really think you tried hard to integrate into our environment by adopting English or even Mandarin as your main choice of language. For me, I believe Ghib’s PR is well deserved!
I think you're very wrong. Irene's from Hong Kong and she's making her videos to tell her fellow Hongkongners about Singapore. It's only natural she uses Cantonese in her videos to reach out to them. Watching some recent videos, it seems Irene's accent has localized. Her Chinese and English sound almost like ours. Probably because she's already been using Chinese and English a lot offline. And also probably because she does interact with us more. Just because she chooses to use Cantonese in her videos promoting Singapore to Hongkongners when it's their language doesn't make her any less Singaporean than Ghib who's promoting Singapore to an international audience. At least she's doing her part as a wannabe Singaporean by promoting our culture and lifestyle and educating others about our ways and habits. The only way she's different is her choice of language and that's inevitable when that's what her main audience is using.
@@DarrenSeacliffe90 I am not sure if she wants to be a wannabe Singaporean or not, pls don’t speak on her behalf. At the same time, I’m just voicing out based on my own opinion, it may have come across as a bit rude, I apologise to her for that. Our language should be adopted if you wish to integrate to our society. If you insist on speaking your own language, it will not have the same value as someone who tries hard to speak in our languages. That’s my point.
@@ditsygirl5409 You're right in saying I shouldn't speak on her behalf because I also don't know if she wants to be a wannabe Singaporean. I agree with your point of view but what I'm saying is that you shouldn't judge her based on this one video. If you watch her other videos, especially those made recently, her English and Mandarin almost sound like ours. That's not what someone who insists on speaking her language in Singapore will sound like.
No. He got his PR because he is married to a Singaporean wife.
@@xxxcool2565 these days so many outstanding people apply for PR, we cannot rely on married to Singaporean anymore. Success rate is only 49% according to MHA. Now they ask for contributions already.
再接再厉，没问题。
After marriage...you have no change in status so far.
No cpf for foreigner now