First time viewer here! When I hear and the 2 ladies watching, there was so much joy and hope restored in my soul😊 I was beginning to think for the longest that there weren't anymore females out there that liked these kinds of things as us men do. Truly humbling and amazing!
Of course! Thank you for watching. If you don’t already give the Voltron Watts Facebook page a follow. I have more useful stuff over there that doesn’t get put on YT 🍻 facebook.com/share/yC5MrQgkMaK6WJyU/?mibextid=LQQJ4d
I wanna see that battery upgrade and a top speed review. I may get one of those Ebox bikes if I don't manage to find the right upgrades for the Rambler 16. I'm aiming for at least 40mph bur I also want to get suspension forks. As you are well aware, the Rambler 16 is an odd size. Keep up the top tier work. I love your videos, been a subscriber since the beginning. Your videos are the only ones up with upgrades for the Rambler 16 that are easy to follow and helped me install a 48v 20ah li-ion battery and voltmeter. Thank you very much! Cheers, from Washington State!
@@VoltronWatts I’ve been told the My1020 doesn’t mount right without modification but I can’t confirm it until I try myself right lol 😂 If I could fit that or EC4P motor would be all I need . The stock motor does look similar in size.
Should consider LIPO and stacking bats, esp when you have a fleet of bikes. Its half the cost, and half the weight at like amp discharges. That way you can quickly toss together what ever bat you need. High AH @ lower volts for long cruises, high volts low AH for drag race and events you don't need range etc. That way you have a stack of modular bats. for the whole fleet. Also good because if you have 1 cell crap out it doesn't scrap a $1500+ battery. So you can throw on 28s and 117v worth of lipo at 20AH if I want to go drag someone. OR you can run 14s @ 58v at 40ah if I want a long city cruise at bike path speeds.
@@VoltronWatts you basically build them. RC hobby shops like HOBBYKING sell the packs reasonable and have 30-40% off sales around blk fridays and xmas. Ebay also has some great deals if you keep your eye out. I was getting 12s 44v 20ah packs for $200 shipped each. Run 2 in series for 100v and up to 400a on the 96/680 fardrivers.
@@TwstedTproductions 96/680 far drivers work pretty well for the cost if you ar eon a budget. I'd go with their 96/1200 race controller though if I did it again. Feel like I'm limited line amp wise with the one I have.
Hi I love your content man! quick question, how’d u connect the original key and battery percentage to the controller. I would like to do the same, because some people are telling me to cut the ends of the stock one and the one that comes with the kit and wire them together but I don’t really know how. So can you please explain it to me?
I used the two forward bolts on the two holes in the swing arm then, since the controller is a little short and a little fat to bit back up into the frame, I used a short strap to tighten it up
Well… you don’t want your battery to hit 0 volts. If it did that would damage the battery. So there is a battery management system in the battery that shuts the battery down once it hits or goes below “X” voltage. Each battery voltage type has a “shut down” voltage
Man I can't decide which bike I want to build. Do you know if E&C will be making the little bit kit or noisy cricket kit for the Ebox 2.0 or Mototec? I really want to put the noisy cricket kit or little bit kit into one of those bikes, but looks like they only make it for the Razors. I have a surron but it is way too expensive to build so I'm keeping it stock.
I have an a 2.0 72v with the electro an co kit thing rips but want more power for hill climbs. Wonder if a far driver can be used an howmuch can these upgraded motor handle
Great question actually. I have no idea what the motors can handle. The 72v kit seems like the top of the mountain as far as performance goes. Maybe look into a gearing change to gain more torque for the off road / hill climb stuff?
That Votol EM50-4 is programmable but seems like chopped off the connector for the USB debugging cable. It’s strange they cut off the original waterproof hall sensor to connector and put a cheap connector on the controller but replaced all the cheap connectors with waterproof connectors. Lol That seems like a 75a-80a controller, so you can probably use a 100a-190a Fardriver (72300 or 72360) because it has more control over the power and field weakening than the Votol does. That motor seems to be rated at 2300w and 5000w peak, which is what the Votol will feed it. But if you have control over the power you can send 10 kw briefly. Both Votol and Fardriver has a BOOST mode with a time limit and cooldown. It doesn’t make the controller more powerful, but it allows you to use a more powerful controller on a weaker motor. For example, if you buy a 72300 with 100a max DC, you can set DC amps to 75a so it will behave similar to the votol and set Boost to 100a for 30 seconds, and that will send 7200 watts if your battery can support 100a. You may also combine a chain sprocket change with the controller change, giving more low end torque and using field weakening to get the top speed back (staying within the rpm limit of the motor).
Besides telling you the voltage of the battery does the Volt meter also tell you the battery range and charge level? I’m confused on the purpose of the volt meter.
@@VoltronWatts sorry I’m not sure I understand. Say the battery is a 60 volt, will the volt meter say 30 volts if the Battery is at 50% capacity? Sorry
I havnt tested that yet. But it will be different for everyone depending on weight, terrain, elevation change, throttle manner. I’d guess 10 miles maybe a little more of street riding.
Great video 👍 I was wondering if you’re going to be reviewing/rating and trying out the Midwest mini mods forks because I’m not sure if I should get those or the ride or die forks. Thanks
I have a video on the Midwest mini mods forks and swing arm! I also have discount codes for them. Voltron gets you $120 off the swing arm kit and Voltron10 will save you 10% on all other parts in the website 🤜🤛
I have a mototec and I put this kit on. It works great. Do you happen to know where to get a set of drop pegs for the mototec? I can’t find them anywhere
The range is slightly decreased due to the system demanding more from the battery. But battery range will depend on many things, riding conditions, throttle manner, weight of the rider, ect… so that’s a tough one to answer 👍
You will increase the power going to the motor so it will decrease range some, how much, depends on what mode you’re riding in and your throttle useage 👍
@VoltronWatts thanks I unbolted my stock motor and all the washers fell so I got no clue how it's orientation of washers and spacer and washers go in that motor bolt
$$649 on the E&C website under “Kits” the discount code is “Voltron5” that will save you some cash. And 72v battery prices range widely. Hope that helps brotha 👊
$$649 on the E&C website under “Kits” the discount code is “Voltron5” that will save you some cash. And 72v battery prices range widely. Hope that helps brotha 👊
@VoltronWatts the reason I'm having to upgrade is, I've had an ebox 2.0 since December for my 7 year old lad, first the Forks failed now the motor has broken.
Well, I’m happy to have you as a viewer! I have some discount codes that might help save you some $ for your upgrades. Modifying the razors doesn’t have to cost a ton of money. Sometimes you can find used parts on Facebook marketplace
The range is slightly decreased due to the system demanding more from the battery. But battery range will depend on many things, riding conditions, throttle manner, weight of the rider, ect… so that’s a tough one to answer 👍
The range is slightly decreased due to the system demanding more from the battery. But battery range will depend on many things, riding conditions, throttle manner, weight of the rider, ect… so that’s a tough one to answer 👍
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Yall watching this, you rock! Thank you for being here with me 🤜🤛 drop your comments below 👇
It’s me, I’m one of the two ladies 😂🎉
I appreciate you Steph 🤗
First time viewer here! When I hear and the 2 ladies watching, there was so much joy and hope restored in my soul😊 I was beginning to think for the longest that there weren't anymore females out there that liked these kinds of things as us men do. Truly humbling and amazing!
And I’m the other one lol. Can’t wait to start my build!
Thank you for watching and commenting! 🙏
Hell yea! Get some! 🚀
Great thanks. I’ve been looking all over for them
Gotch you 👊
Great video! Very helpful! Thanks
Of course! Thank you for watching. If you don’t already give the Voltron Watts Facebook page a follow. I have more useful stuff over there that doesn’t get put on YT 🍻
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Good video! Will be linking our customers to this 'cos they're always asking how fast it goes after 🤩
👍 sounds good, thank you for watching! 🍻
I wanna see that battery upgrade and a top speed review. I may get one of those Ebox bikes if I don't manage to find the right upgrades for the Rambler 16. I'm aiming for at least 40mph bur I also want to get suspension forks. As you are well aware, the Rambler 16 is an odd size.
Keep up the top tier work. I love your videos, been a subscriber since the beginning. Your videos are the only ones up with upgrades for the Rambler 16 that are easy to follow and helped me install a 48v 20ah li-ion battery and voltmeter.
Thank you very much!
Cheers, from Washington State!
I appreciate you watching and I appreciate your time! I remember the name “ Night Jerk” 😂 you’re an OG of the channel and I appreciate you 👊
Great video 🤘🏼
Thanks Seth! 👊
Thanks very helpful 😊
Thank you for watching! 🤘
Thx for explaining how to keep the stock volt meter after the upgrade 👍🫡 .
I hope E&C will make a kit for the Tt1600r form Burromax pit bikes .
I think the burrow max takes an my1020 style motor, right?
@@VoltronWatts I’ve been told the My1020 doesn’t mount right without modification but I can’t confirm it until I try myself right lol 😂
If I could fit that or EC4P motor would be all I need . The stock motor does look similar in size.
We plan to!
@@electroandcompany awesomeness🤑💰😎🔥🫡✔️
Should consider LIPO and stacking bats, esp when you have a fleet of bikes. Its half the cost, and half the weight at like amp discharges. That way you can quickly toss together what ever bat you need. High AH @ lower volts for long cruises, high volts low AH for drag race and events you don't need range etc. That way you have a stack of modular bats. for the whole fleet. Also good because if you have 1 cell crap out it doesn't scrap a $1500+ battery. So you can throw on 28s and 117v worth of lipo at 20AH if I want to go drag someone. OR you can run 14s @ 58v at 40ah if I want a long city cruise at bike path speeds.
Those are great points man! Know anyone that makes such a kit?
@@VoltronWatts you basically build them. RC hobby shops like HOBBYKING sell the packs reasonable and have 30-40% off sales around blk fridays and xmas. Ebay also has some great deals if you keep your eye out. I was getting 12s 44v 20ah packs for $200 shipped each. Run 2 in series for 100v and up to 400a on the 96/680 fardrivers.
Damn!!! I’m going to look into this!
@AdamOpheim Currently going this route with those same ebay no name lipos, need a new controller for the 100v to work
@@TwstedTproductions 96/680 far drivers work pretty well for the cost if you ar eon a budget. I'd go with their 96/1200 race controller though if I did it again. Feel like I'm limited line amp wise with the one I have.
I have some numbers on that bike and it seems it would fit close to 72v 50ah battery capacity.
A very good reason to buy the bike.
50ah would be incredible!
Could you do a video upgrading the burromax tt1600r?
Yes that would be awsome I luv those pit bikes👏🏽🔥
I’d love to. I’ll reach out them 👌
Totally!
sorry for asking so many question last question promise but when you switch the volt meter do cut the wire then soter the wires together
Yes. Red to red, black to black 👍
could you please explain to how to wire the volr meter and the key please also great video👍
Thank you for watching!
Nice bro have a wonderful day
Thanks buddy, you too!
could you show a short video of how you used the original voltmeter?
Just swap the connectors and get some butt connectors to tie the wires back up and boom. But yea, I can do that 👊
is the video on its way?@@VoltronWatts
Hi I love your content man! quick question, how’d u connect the original key and battery percentage to the controller. I would like to do the same, because some people are telling me to cut the ends of the stock one and the one that comes with the kit and wire them together but I don’t really know how. So can you please explain it to me?
On this one I did not use the key, I used the on/off switch from E&C
I have the same kit how did you get the controller to fit mine seems to be short and gets stuck?
I used the two forward bolts on the two holes in the swing arm then, since the controller is a little short and a little fat to bit back up into the frame, I used a short strap to tighten it up
How are you supposed to change the on off switch to the key?
Get you a key and wire it in the place of the on/off switch
So even if you want to keep the stock volt meter on it you still need to cut the wires and soder them ?
You do have to either cut 2 wires and crimp / solder them OR re pin the connection to fit the volt meter plug.
Does the battery life deplete with the kit a lot faster? My ebox with the kit shuts off without it being even close to 0 volts
Well… you don’t want your battery to hit 0 volts. If it did that would damage the battery. So there is a battery management system in the battery that shuts the battery down once it hits or goes below “X” voltage. Each battery voltage type has a “shut down” voltage
Man I can't decide which bike I want to build. Do you know if E&C will be making the little bit kit or noisy cricket kit for the Ebox 2.0 or Mototec? I really want to put the noisy cricket kit or little bit kit into one of those bikes, but looks like they only make it for the Razors. I have a surron but it is way too expensive to build so I'm keeping it stock.
I need help deciding before its all sold out lol
Have you done the 72v battery upgrade for the Ebox platform?
sorry for asking so many question but the the on and off switch arent red and black so what do I connect to the red and black
If I remember right, the on/off switch just plugs into the controller
@@VoltronWatts no I’m saying for cutting and soldering I did it with the volt meter but what wire do I connect since it green and black stripes
Could you please explain how to wire the volt meter and the keys please
I touched on it briefly in the video. Red to red, black to black.
How did you secure the controller in the frame ??
I used two of the existing screw holes from the old controller on one side and a strap on the other side 🤙
I have an a 2.0 72v with the electro an co kit thing rips but want more power for hill climbs. Wonder if a far driver can be used an howmuch can these upgraded motor handle
Great question actually. I have no idea what the motors can handle. The 72v kit seems like the top of the mountain as far as performance goes. Maybe look into a gearing change to gain more torque for the off road / hill climb stuff?
That Votol EM50-4 is programmable but seems like chopped off the connector for the USB debugging cable.
It’s strange they cut off the original waterproof hall sensor to connector and put a cheap connector on the controller but replaced all the cheap connectors with waterproof connectors. Lol
That seems like a 75a-80a controller, so you can probably use a 100a-190a Fardriver (72300 or 72360) because it has more control over the power and field weakening than the Votol does.
That motor seems to be rated at 2300w and 5000w peak, which is what the Votol will feed it. But if you have control over the power you can send 10 kw briefly.
Both Votol and Fardriver has a BOOST mode with a time limit and cooldown. It doesn’t make the controller more powerful, but it allows you to use a more powerful controller on a weaker motor.
For example, if you buy a 72300 with 100a max DC, you can set DC amps to 75a so it will behave similar to the votol and set Boost to 100a for 30 seconds, and that will send 7200 watts if your battery can support 100a.
You may also combine a chain sprocket change with the controller change, giving more low end torque and using field weakening to get the top speed back (staying within the rpm limit of the motor).
@@VoltronWattsyeah I just don’t know what sprockets will fit. Hope you find some an do more videos on the ebox
kind of late , but if i wanna keep the key and not have on/off switch , can i keep the stock throttle? or do i have to get another one
Should be able to keep the stock throttle.
Besides telling you the voltage of the battery does the Volt meter also tell you the battery range and charge level? I’m confused on the purpose of the volt meter.
Volt meter tells you the remaining voltage in the battery. It’s kinda like your “gas huge” if you will.
@@VoltronWatts sorry I’m not sure I understand. Say the battery is a 60 volt, will the volt meter say 30 volts if the Battery is at 50% capacity? Sorry
Roughly yes
Does that more powerful motor decreases the battery capacity?
It doesn’t decrease capacity but it can run though your battery faster since your running more power
is the entire kit plug and play and is it possible to tune the controller in the e and c app. amazing video by the way
Thanks for watching man! You can’t tune this controller. You can change the riding style by using the three speed switch
which upgrade box did he buy?
What do you mean?
Do you recommend the mototec frame or the ebox frame
I don’t have a mototec to compare. But the Ebox is a super cool platform and I think they my are very similar
First commented, first edited, been waiting for this vid 🤙
Nailed it!
Hell yeah, I wish I had one and I’m about to watch the vid but the ads take too long
Stupid adds! I make em skippable for the viewer
@@VoltronWattsthankyou!
10 seconds is too long ? Man we are doomed.
Gotch you!
Hahahaha!
what was your range after the new kit?
About 14 miles but that all depends on several things like weight, throttle manner, on road/off road ect…
how many miles did you get with the upgraded controller and the stock battery?????
I havnt tested that yet. But it will be different for everyone depending on weight, terrain, elevation change, throttle manner. I’d guess 10 miles maybe a little more of street riding.
Will the stock voltmeter work with a 72v battery?
Yup. Just gotta wire it up. Red to red- black to black
Do the response and top speed adjustments on the battery still work?
No. Non longer needed really. The three speed switch handles that type of stuff now 💪
@@VoltronWatts do you just keep them turned to the max then?
They get removed completely
Great video 👍 I was wondering if you’re going to be reviewing/rating and trying out the Midwest mini mods forks because I’m not sure if I should get those or the ride or die forks. Thanks
I have a video on the Midwest mini mods forks and swing arm! I also have discount codes for them. Voltron gets you $120 off the swing arm kit and Voltron10 will save you 10% on all other parts in the website 🤜🤛
Most Pimped Out Razor On The Internet! Razor SX500 SuperMoto Upgraded To The Max! 72v W/ Sotion FW11
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can you make electron and co ship to australia please
Ha! I can’t make E&C do anything. 😂 shoot em an email Electroandcompany@gmail.com 👌
Do I need to change the motor?
They send you one with the kit 💪
What wire bundle did you use ? Like the number on the controller please ?
That, I don’t know. It came with the kit
Dos the ebox two have the same frame or as the ebox dragster
No
Do you know what control I should by that less then 300 dollars for the dragster
i have a modded ebox 2.0 same as that what would you reccond me upgrade to in the really distance future ?
You mean to upgrade to a whole new bike? Or parts to upgrade on your Ebox?
@@VoltronWatts new bike
@sdfff2 🚀
What battery fits ? Is this a new thing ?
This has the stock battery, for now 👍
@@VoltronWatts what elctro and co battery you said are you gonna try ?
How did you mount the controller?
I used two screws on one side and a strap on the opposing side 👌
I have a mototec and I put this kit on. It works great. Do you happen to know where to get a set of drop pegs for the mototec? I can’t find them anywhere
I don’t off the top of my head. But I’ll put out some feelers 👊
I have a question is the mounting of the controller stable?
I used two of the bolt whole locations form the stock controller and a strap to make extra sure it doesn’t move and mine has been rock solid 💪
Hey man do you know how much range you get ?
The range is slightly decreased due to the system demanding more from the battery. But battery range will depend on many things, riding conditions, throttle manner, weight of the rider, ect… so that’s a tough one to answer 👍
After installing it does the ride range go down?
The range does decrease slightly due to the higher demand in power
Is there a way to make the range higher or no
How do u guys get the 72v battery for ebox
Electro and company is getting 72v batteries for this platform in the next couple weeks 💪
@@VoltronWatts that’s sick
@clayska8salldayfiore825 it’s gunna be rowdy!
What is the range?
Range varies greatly. I’d bet 10-20 miles depending on wider weight, terrain and throttle useage 🤙
hey Voltron what do you plan on doing with the stock motor controller etc ?
I’m going to stick it in a razor pocket mod 👌
Will this kit decrease my range? Or will it stay similar?
You will increase the power going to the motor so it will decrease range some, how much, depends on what mode you’re riding in and your throttle useage 👍
@@VoltronWatts makes sense, thank you!
In what orientation does the washers go on the long motor bolt with the long spacer and washers ?
I’d have to go look. I don’t know off the top of my head. I’ll get back to you
@VoltronWatts thanks I unbolted my stock motor and all the washers fell so I got no clue how it's orientation of washers and spacer and washers go in that motor bolt
What kinda of bike is that?
Ebox 2.0. Watch the video 👊
Does the knobs under the seat still work
No. You now have a three speed switch on the handle bar that handles the power 👌
How much dose the kit coast? Also coast of the 72v battery upgrade. Thanks
$$649 on the E&C website under “Kits” the discount code is “Voltron5” that will save you some cash. And 72v battery prices range widely. Hope that helps brotha 👊
$$649 on the E&C website under “Kits” the discount code is “Voltron5” that will save you some cash. And 72v battery prices range widely. Hope that helps brotha 👊
should i get one if i am 14 and 110 punds
👍 totally
@@VoltronWatts ok bet
Just bought a 5000w razor kit like 2 weeks ago hoe long do they take to ship
Usually 24-48 business hours if they have it in stock
Ight can wait
@@VoltronWattshow many weeks/days is that
@Fortnite.lover123 what do you mean?
How many days is 48 business hours
hi how tall are you i want to know if it will be ok for me i am 6.1 tall
I am 5’10”
i need help what’s the kit’s name
It’s on the electro and co website use Voltron5 at check out to save some cash
Hi mate, is it the
MOTOTEC / EBOX / APOLLO / FUNBIKES TO ETM™ UPGRADE KIT that I'm after?
@roberthigham15 yup. The one from E&C if you use “Voltron5” at check out it will save you some cash 🍻
@VoltronWatts the reason I'm having to upgrade is, I've had an ebox 2.0 since December for my 7 year old lad, first the Forks failed now the motor has broken.
i watch your videos all the time but sadly i don't have enough money to modify my razor
Well, I’m happy to have you as a viewer! I have some discount codes that might help save you some $ for your upgrades. Modifying the razors doesn’t have to cost a ton of money. Sometimes you can find used parts on Facebook marketplace
what are the discount codes
@xurixze electo and co discount code is Voltron5 🍻
Why would you spend money on the bike and a kit just buy a dragster it goes 40
I buy everything. 👌
Honestly I wanted to see what's up with suspension plus I can use the same motor for both
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can u get me one pls
Yea man! Get em from the E&C website 😆🤙
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🫡
Hey man do you know how much range you get ?
The range is slightly decreased due to the system demanding more from the battery. But battery range will depend on many things, riding conditions, throttle manner, weight of the rider, ect… so that’s a tough one to answer 👍
Hey man do you know how much range you get ?
The range is slightly decreased due to the system demanding more from the battery. But battery range will depend on many things, riding conditions, throttle manner, weight of the rider, ect… so that’s a tough one to answer 👍
@@VoltronWatts and what range do you get ?