The Worst Vehicle In War Thunder

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • People often debate about which tank or plane in War Thunder is the worst, but for me it's no competition. The Type 93 SPAA is the single most useless vehicle in the entire game. Its Type 91 missiles (pretty much the equivalent FIM-92 Stingers) are broken in numerous ways, which means that even though it can only engage air targets, it needs to be extremely lucky to get a kill on one.
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  • @harryvj6397
    @harryvj6397 4 роки тому +4202

    The missile doesn’t know where it is because it doesn’t know where it isn’t

    • @duyhung2528
      @duyhung2528 4 роки тому +107

      I know this reference

    • @some_random_rando
      @some_random_rando 4 роки тому +52

      It knows this because it was made in china

    • @TheNikoNik
      @TheNikoNik 4 роки тому +77

      Only knows where it doesn't need to be, which is the aimed plane, and where it needs to be, which is the ground.

    • @harryvj6397
      @harryvj6397 4 роки тому +11

      TheNikoNik yes because the ground is the same temperature as jet engine exhaust 🙄

    • @madkazbad273
      @madkazbad273 4 роки тому +12

      Harryvj r/woosh

  • @thegenericguy8309
    @thegenericguy8309 4 роки тому +3879

    Wild how enemies seem more likely to kill themselves trying to evade the missile than actually get hit by the missile

    • @mickaelblake7088
      @mickaelblake7088 4 роки тому +252

      Lol it has terrible tracking effectiveness but *amazing confusion effectiveness*

    • @majorcorn0526
      @majorcorn0526 4 роки тому +26

      Bombers are starting to do it more too when they bomb a base, they either j out or crash on purpose.

    • @AtrociousAK47
      @AtrociousAK47 4 роки тому +28

      if i didnt know any better id have assumed every aircraft in the game is spamming a fuck ton of flares or chaff (like in pretty much every other game with lock ons, unless it's bf4 in which case lockons like stinger are probably banned by the server admins and will get you auto-kicked). hard to tell if this thing is lockon or wire guided, or does lockon only work when it feels like it?

    • @speedcat5477
      @speedcat5477 4 роки тому +1

      Guessing that its less embarrasing

    • @andrewmoreno9414
      @andrewmoreno9414 4 роки тому +7

      Task failed successfully.

  • @LazOyuncu61
    @LazOyuncu61 4 роки тому +3997

    *Wastes all of it’s shots on one chopper.*
    Chopper: “Fine, i’ll do it myself!”

    • @yuhongzhu2168
      @yuhongzhu2168 4 роки тому +29

      lmao

    • @vodkavodka8903
      @vodkavodka8903 4 роки тому +9

      XD

    • @josephmills5733
      @josephmills5733 4 роки тому +13

      Ah yes... a man of culture I see...

    • @djfloofy109
      @djfloofy109 4 роки тому +82

      Literally felt so bad it decided to give the poor thing a kill

    • @Arnechk
      @Arnechk 4 роки тому +10

      Fuck man, I rarely laugh out loud at yt comments.

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 4 роки тому +3120

    Missile : is flying perfectly and on track
    Missile 50m from target : SQUIRREL *veers off target 90 degrees*

    • @gage2189
      @gage2189 4 роки тому +15

      lol

    • @ReZel80657
      @ReZel80657 4 роки тому +19

      Fly Off To The Right And Explode ua-cam.com/video/fj3wV2FiJC4/v-deo.html

    • @kayagorzan
      @kayagorzan 4 роки тому +2

      Indeed

    • @KokoroAi
      @KokoroAi 4 роки тому +21

      Sounds like Wargame:Red Dragon guided missile in a nutshell

    • @samblackstone3400
      @samblackstone3400 4 роки тому +19

      @@KokoroAi wargame red dragon is the only game where a TOW can double as a stunt plane and perform loop-the-loops in front of its target.

  • @generalolivervonbismarck393
    @generalolivervonbismarck393 4 роки тому +3031

    Extremely modern anti aircraft system struggles to shoot down piston plane from ww2

    • @frisos8850
      @frisos8850 4 роки тому +116

      I mean, the have lower engine temperatures

    • @yuhongzhu2168
      @yuhongzhu2168 4 роки тому +237

      because WT player Kamikaze too much,the missile IFF think they may be all friendly.

    • @delamovies
      @delamovies 4 роки тому +2

      Or anything really

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger 4 роки тому +64

      @@frisos8850 ; Modern missiles would still have no problem locking onto them, just not at that long of a range.

    • @frisos8850
      @frisos8850 4 роки тому +2

      @@FirstDagger Hmmm, but still, you can't lock headon with IR seekers.

  • @gh-yf4go
    @gh-yf4go 4 роки тому +1857

    Missile to helicopter: "I am gonna kill you"
    Helicopter: "No"
    Missle: "UNDERSTANDABLE, HAVE A GREAT DAY"

    • @howiethehowitzer7398
      @howiethehowitzer7398 4 роки тому +34

      Especially at 2:15, the missile literally avoided the helicopter...

    • @samhansen9771
      @samhansen9771 4 роки тому +30

      At 2:59 it has a change of heart

    • @howiethehowitzer7398
      @howiethehowitzer7398 4 роки тому +23

      @@samhansen9771 I think it's safe to say that these missiles need someone to talk to. Maybe they just need some motivation, or perhaps something is going on at home.

    • @yamatokurusaki5790
      @yamatokurusaki5790 4 роки тому +3

      @@howiethehowitzer7398 or you literally need to be lock on that vehicles you firing at-

    • @volknetai.3690
      @volknetai.3690 4 роки тому +4

      @@howiethehowitzer7398 Missile be like : Oh there must be a cliff Let's jump away from it

  • @audeobellicus
    @audeobellicus 4 роки тому +2250

    Its like everything that flies has magical ECM abilities

    • @dlistmemer591
      @dlistmemer591 4 роки тому +215

      Ah yes, I remember reading about those pesky P-26s with the ECM package

    • @leeboy29680-ol7gf
      @leeboy29680-ol7gf 4 роки тому +70

      @@dlistmemer591 its how france won ww2!- official gaijin quote

    • @northropi2027
      @northropi2027 4 роки тому +60

      Part of me wonders if there's an issue with flares not rendering in- I'm not sure which aircraft would have them to begin with but if a lot of the misses were due to invisible flares that would make sense too I guess.

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger 4 роки тому +11

      Except when you play it yourself ... then you get one shot by MG bullets.

    • @jeandelacroix6726
      @jeandelacroix6726 4 роки тому +5

      @@leeboy29680-ol7gf if only they added ICM to France when they have it *cough* Jaguar and Etendard IVM *cough*

  • @sagichnichtsowiesonicht7326
    @sagichnichtsowiesonicht7326 4 роки тому +1575

    2:20 IT LITTERALLY EVADED THE HELICOPTER WHAT

    • @God-yr9rs
      @God-yr9rs 4 роки тому +50

      That's the point, duh.....

    • @hazardous458
      @hazardous458 4 роки тому

      Sag ich nicht Sowieso nicht it was too close.

    • @90enemies
      @90enemies 4 роки тому +194

      @@hazardous458 Usually missiles doesn't arm when they're too close. Never heard of one deciding to go to the moon when it's 10 meter from the target

    • @tarik7353
      @tarik7353 4 роки тому +1

      Ahahahahhaha

    • @Joe-hh6ds
      @Joe-hh6ds 4 роки тому +12

      That was hard to watch

  • @viscera9579
    @viscera9579 4 роки тому +722

    "it can only engage air vehicles"
    not only that, its the only vehicle that *cant* engage ground vehicles, and it cant even do good at the one thing it does.

    • @shirghazaycowboys
      @shirghazaycowboys 4 роки тому +32

      The Stormer isn't much better, it can only semi reliably engage helicopters and even then

    • @aerina_eclair
      @aerina_eclair 3 роки тому +1

      Same goes for the Roland

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 3 роки тому +22

      One of the passengers should at least get a pistol or something.

    • @truck-kun5924
      @truck-kun5924 3 роки тому +3

      Man it's can. Always there is a chance for a player using a tier 1 Italian SPAAG in enemy team =D its have less armor than a plane.

    • @foxslt4533
      @foxslt4533 3 роки тому

      Seems like missile based spaas are trash

  • @Cyrogon
    @Cyrogon 4 роки тому +653

    From my Understanding, the Type 91 missile that the Type 93 fires is quite an advanced IR missile that is capable of completley ignoring flares and other types of IR countermesure, and is a very accurate missile, if the stats are to be belived, so this missile really shouldn't turn pacifist right before impact and miss.
    I can see why Gaijin wouldn't want a missile to always land on Target, but the Type 93 should definetly have much deadlier missiles due to it being completley unable to engage anything but air targets.

    • @Boomchacle
      @Boomchacle 4 роки тому +147

      considering that it's got what, 8 shots total, and it's a dedicated AA, if it can't kill stationary helicopters, what was the point of adding it to the game?

    • @jeandelacroix6726
      @jeandelacroix6726 4 роки тому +35

      They nerfed Type93 and Mistrals to a Stinger level of performance while irl both are much much better

    • @swaghauler8334
      @swaghauler8334 4 роки тому +77

      The targeting system seems COMPLETELY WRONG in this video!
      For most Generation 3 IR Homing Missiles you would TRACK the target UNTIL the missile "tells" you that it has a lock-on both audibly through a tone and by changing the color on (or even the shape of) the targeting box. At this point, you fire, and the missile launches and then tracks the target ALL BY ITSELF. You are now free to track and lock another target.
      The old Redeye and first-generation Sidewinder could track a target from behind but almost never achieved a lock-on from the front. It would lock-on about 60% of the time from the rear oblique quarters.
      The first-generation Stinger and later SA-7 "Grail" could lock a target from the full rear and rear oblique quarters easily (the rear 180-degree arc) but was only able to lock on to the forward oblique angles about half the time and could only achieve a frontal lock-on about 25% of the time.
      Later versions of the Stinger and the Rolling Airframe Missile (as well as the Sidewinder with IR uncage for its sensor) could lock a target from the front around 50% of the time while getting a "stern-lock" over 80% of the time.
      High Off-Boresight Missiles like the Soviet AA-7 "Archer" and the US AIM-9X Sidewinder can lock targets at 90 to 120 degrees off of their "nose" (the missile's and the launching aircraft's nose) and can lock head-on targets pretty easily (80% of the time plus if the literature is to believed).
      A typical "good track" by the Missile Launcher will keep the aircraft in the targeting box of the CLU (command-launch unit) for around 5 seconds but sometimes (especially in "stern-chase" tracking) a lock-on can be achieved in as little as 3 seconds. The tone will sound (or "Growl" in the case of a Sidewinder) and the targeting box will indicate a lock.
      If a missile has an "active guidance data link" then you will keep the CLU's targeting system tracking the target and the missile WILL FOLLOW your directed targeting until it hits whatever you have centered in the box or it runs out of steam.

    • @m1a1abramstank49
      @m1a1abramstank49 3 роки тому +4

      That’s Gaijin on Japan for you

    • @DrSabot-A
      @DrSabot-A 3 роки тому +33

      @@swaghauler8334 That was a good read, but i have never seen someone make paragraph spacing on a UA-cam comment before

  • @bromine_35
    @bromine_35 4 роки тому +834

    "The missile knows where it is"
    *No it doesn't*

    • @kawkaw8623
      @kawkaw8623 4 роки тому +10

      i mean it knows that because it knows where it isnt

    • @Strigon01
      @Strigon01 4 роки тому +7

      And where it is, is where it isn't. There for the missile knows where it is and where it isnt.

    • @Yeetus223
      @Yeetus223 3 роки тому +1

      Except on target

    • @hachipanki8634
      @hachipanki8634 3 роки тому

      I WAS GOING YO SAY THAT

  • @gintonic5770
    @gintonic5770 4 роки тому +168

    This missile was designed by a pacificst

    • @xNaIVItYx
      @xNaIVItYx 3 роки тому +3

      Haha looks like SDF didn‘t lie

  • @riesenfliegefly7139
    @riesenfliegefly7139 4 роки тому +831

    Spookston: The worst Vehicle in war thunder.
    Me: Oh, another ?

    • @tirpitz177
      @tirpitz177 4 роки тому +7

      Me: Sherman, Patton, Pershing, that one ATGM machine in the Japanese techtree
      Edit: just talking from a few freinds experience

    • @commandergeokam2868
      @commandergeokam2868 4 роки тому +40

      @@tirpitz177 what do you mean sherman, Pershing and patton all those are very good if you can play well

    • @malituse5193
      @malituse5193 4 роки тому +18

      @@tirpitz177 The Pershin is great! At 6.3 it can handle it's own really well

    • @GreenStuffConsumer
      @GreenStuffConsumer 4 роки тому +3

      @@malituse5193 the gun and mobility are great. Armor is a joke

    • @GreenStuffConsumer
      @GreenStuffConsumer 4 роки тому +4

      @@commandergeokam2868 the Pershing and Patton are fun vehicles but the sherman barely fits in it's own tier

  • @RussianRainbow
    @RussianRainbow 4 роки тому +318

    I'm already 300k RP into it, you can't stop me now.

  • @awan317
    @awan317 4 роки тому +357

    2:18 made me sooo mad
    Edit: spelling

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 4 роки тому +50

      Helicopter was so ashamed by that display that it committed seppuku.

    • @Nothing-1w3
      @Nothing-1w3 4 роки тому +16

      > missile launches
      > missile flies straight to the target
      > missile makes a small jump over the target
      > missile continues to fly straight

    • @aarohganjoo1676
      @aarohganjoo1676 4 роки тому +5

      Jodie Price bro that was me in the chopper😔 my transmission or whatever was shot by a C2 and I crashed

    • @Maximus20778
      @Maximus20778 4 роки тому

      @@aarohganjoo1676 really

  • @ChainsawChuck13
    @ChainsawChuck13 4 роки тому +25

    2:16 I've never played War Thunder and I still felt my frustration levels rise watching that missile literally change course to loop itself around the chopper's tail. Are you frickin' kidding me!

    • @bigcbear3785
      @bigcbear3785 5 місяців тому

      You should play it :)
      (I am only kidding )

  • @TycipreyllThirhe
    @TycipreyllThirhe 4 роки тому +394

    Gaijin out here making Wargaming seem normal... smh...

    • @AlexMappingHD
      @AlexMappingHD 4 роки тому +8

      Oh, sir, you are so wrong.

    • @TycipreyllThirhe
      @TycipreyllThirhe 4 роки тому +38

      @@AlexMappingHD Maybe. But Gaijin has not been listening to the community recently where Wargaming has been, recently.

    • @homiespaghetti1522
      @homiespaghetti1522 4 роки тому +8

      @@AlexMappingHD yeah, wargaming was way more normal before this incident. Good maps, No Tier compression. Russian bias is still a problem tho

    • @TycipreyllThirhe
      @TycipreyllThirhe 4 роки тому +22

      @@homiespaghetti1522 Not going to argue that they do close to no balancing for Soviet vehicles in the World of Tanks. But Wargaming has been revamping maps the community has been wanting forever, buffing German heavy tanks, adding game modes like frontline and steel hunter and also keeping them, adding rewards and events people actually want to grind for. I would say Wargaming has been better off than Gaijin recently.

    • @AlexMappingHD
      @AlexMappingHD 4 роки тому +2

      Wargaming always add premium tank that most of the times are fake...
      Like The Liberator (?), A Pershing but better in everything. Never existed and it's in game only for premium.
      Or (as an example) do you want a IS-2 turret on a Maus chassis? Only 89.99€ for you!! And I am not joking.
      Sure, the BR matchamking in War Thunder is questionable, in World of Tanks you will 99.99% of the times be placed in a match with higher tier tanks that will most likely rape you. And perhaps the teams are going to be made out of premium OP tanks.

  • @jakobc.2558
    @jakobc.2558 4 роки тому +136

    "It do be fast af tho"
    - Someone who never actualy played it

    • @programmedgamer7101
      @programmedgamer7101 4 роки тому +8

      Looks like it's speed is the only reliable thing about it.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +2

      Programmed Gamer nonsense it reliably drives forward

    • @thegrayseed2792
      @thegrayseed2792 2 роки тому

      It sacrifices reliability for fun.

  • @thedarkzibba7059
    @thedarkzibba7059 4 роки тому +138

    That one clip with huey is funny af

    • @aarohganjoo1676
      @aarohganjoo1676 4 роки тому +6

      Bro that’s legit me in the huey

    • @hachipanki8634
      @hachipanki8634 3 роки тому

      @@aarohganjoo1676 For real?
      Hoy were really lucky... Maybe

  • @HighestMetal
    @HighestMetal 4 роки тому +92

    The Type 91 missiles are are based on the Stingers but with some slightly different properties. The Type 91 has less explosive filler and no proximity fuse but has better tracking capabilities and is designed to bypass flairs. To make up for less explosive mass the missile is designed to ram the target in a way that the explosive can detonate in way that maximizes damage. Currently the biggest issue is that tracking is completely broken and not historically accurate. In game the missiles at first used to fly along the ground and come up from below the target but this often resulted in missiles slamming into trees and other objects. Currently the missiles fly above the target still has the same issue of the guidance seemingly shutting off upon final approach and thus nit being able to react to changes in movement from the target. It could be fixed further if Gaijin implemented the alternative firing methods the Type 93 has such as electronic locking which in which it would perform just like all the other radar guided SAMs in game as well as a manual guided mode that was used Incase guidance systems were down or Incase of close range target. TLDR: fix the damage output model and guidance systems and all will be fine.

    • @reconzero5699
      @reconzero5699 Рік тому

      He literally explained it in the video...

  • @biko9824
    @biko9824 4 роки тому +74

    3:44 Certified Bruh Moment

    • @titan_tanker
      @titan_tanker 4 роки тому +15

      It’s like... the missile have a mind of its own lmao

  • @ninercr7766
    @ninercr7766 4 роки тому +104

    Even just watching it, it feels infuriating

    • @WyvernCV
      @WyvernCV 4 роки тому +7

      Ah, a fellow Osean. Sir I must ask, have you detected any Belkan bullshit as of recent?

    • @monsterfatalis7182
      @monsterfatalis7182 4 роки тому +4

      @@WyvernCV Belka did nothing wrong

    • @WyvernCV
      @WyvernCV 4 роки тому +6

      @@monsterfatalis7182 Belka did everything wrong

    • @monsterfatalis7182
      @monsterfatalis7182 4 роки тому +3

      @@WyvernCV #notallbelkans #Belkadidnothingwrong

    • @WyvernCV
      @WyvernCV 4 роки тому +6

      @@monsterfatalis7182 Ahem, I would refer you to the Belkan war. And EVERY OTHER WAR THEY HAVE INSTIGATED.
      You sir are a spy to glorious Osea. And you will be captured.

  • @peeteeman4597
    @peeteeman4597 4 роки тому +65

    "War Thunder, it's almost fun." Phly 2020.

  • @mrdude4124
    @mrdude4124 4 роки тому +25

    Its like the missiles gain self awareness mid flight and go "nope I don't feel like blowing planes up today ".

  • @Sophie-mh3yq
    @Sophie-mh3yq 4 роки тому +84

    0:39 sounds like the M15A1 to me

    • @nesyboi9421
      @nesyboi9421 4 роки тому +8

      ehh I've gotten plenty of air to ground kills in the m15a1, as well as ground kills, but I guess its not for everyone, and the m16 is a bit better than it in all respects except one hit kill potential on aircraft and armor pen.

    • @matheusguerrascheffer6518
      @matheusguerrascheffer6518 4 роки тому +8

      well, at least the M15A1 can hit stuff if you are familiar with 37mm...

    • @cyberspino6277
      @cyberspino6277 3 роки тому

      @@nesyboi9421 i find it Best for baiting An aircraft with the mg and kill it with the 37mm

  • @Kuba-rt9xi
    @Kuba-rt9xi 4 роки тому +54

    I love the Type 93 regardless of how shit and buggy it is because it's just so fun

    • @gage2189
      @gage2189 4 роки тому +2

      how do? Speedy boi? _NYOOM_

    • @nichsulol4844
      @nichsulol4844 4 роки тому

      @@gage2189 this vechiel supposed be anti land unit

  • @foo-foocuddlypoops5694
    @foo-foocuddlypoops5694 4 роки тому +193

    Sure the Type 93 is awful, but have you ever played our lord and savior HMS Churchill, aka the British Clemson.

    • @karldergrosse-333
      @karldergrosse-333 4 роки тому +24

      Clemson sucks IRL (city and university) and the ship is absolutely useless.

    • @barnstormer546
      @barnstormer546 4 роки тому +9

      The British Clemson does have one advantage over the American Clemson. It's got a useable AA defense.

    • @orangephoenixbrazier4978
      @orangephoenixbrazier4978 4 роки тому

      Charlemagne King of Franks Dabo is a cult leader

    • @homiespaghetti1522
      @homiespaghetti1522 4 роки тому +3

      In my opinion the ZiS-43 is the worst vehicle of all time. Wobbly chassis, slow fire rate, slow turret rotation makes it a living hell to play

    • @PilotTed
      @PilotTed 4 роки тому +4

      @@homiespaghetti1522 But I have played it and I can tell you its not the worst compared to the Type 93. With the Zis 43, you can actually kill both tanks and aircraft reliable while the Type 93 has 8 missiles that almost always fails to kill even when they hit and it cant kill tanks except with a lucky artillery strike.

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims 4 роки тому +21

    1:28 “why are we still here?”

  • @rat_king-
    @rat_king- 4 роки тому +55

    Sp00kton: its broken
    Spooktons account: im going to jail...

  • @hamurodesertfolf7901
    @hamurodesertfolf7901 4 роки тому +55

    " Gajin "...you know how is will going when you hear that name

  • @removalunit7610
    @removalunit7610 4 роки тому +24

    "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't."

    • @vformarallo
      @vformarallo 4 роки тому +5

      It clearly doesn't know shit. (i got the reference)

  • @juancortapan7845
    @juancortapan7845 4 роки тому +77

    Gaijin, can we get a japanese AA vehicle pls?
    You already have it in your tech tree
    The AA in the tech tree:

  • @thecanadiankiwibirb4512
    @thecanadiankiwibirb4512 4 роки тому +11

    2:24
    Helicopter be like: “Fine! I’ll do it myself”

  • @alanwatts8239
    @alanwatts8239 3 роки тому +6

    2:18
    that missile just straight avoided the heli xDDD

  • @28stabwounds91
    @28stabwounds91 4 роки тому +45

    I might be wrong, but it feels like Japan always gets screwed on the guided missile vehicles. First there was the type 60, now this

    • @looke3392
      @looke3392 Рік тому +3

      Japan just gets screwed over. Us Japanese Tree players are always in pain

  • @guvyygvuhh298
    @guvyygvuhh298 4 роки тому +9

    Missile: *tracks perfectly
    Also missile, 100m away from target: lol nope, screw you I am going home chief

  • @AkagiStan
    @AkagiStan 4 роки тому +5

    The Type 91 missile is primarily electro-optical with IR as a secondary seeker mode, the Type 91 does have a proximity fuse and is also thrust-vectored. It's a domestic missile, not a Stinger, and should be much better.

    • @jeandelacroix6726
      @jeandelacroix6726 4 роки тому

      They nerfed anything not Igla to igla level of performance. Mistrals and type93 are affected and heavily nerfed.

    • @AkagiStan
      @AkagiStan 4 роки тому

      @@jeandelacroix6726 the type 91 is by far the worst missile, it struggles to hit a stationary heli with no countermeasures. Almost like it actively avoids the target

    • @rav3727
      @rav3727 3 роки тому

      @@AkagiStan
      Sometimes it fails to dodge the enemy aircraft and hits them

  • @drewmaus8879
    @drewmaus8879 3 роки тому +2

    3:55 that moment when the Ka-52 player doesn't realize that they can retract their landing gear

  • @USSLongIslandCVE1
    @USSLongIslandCVE1 4 роки тому +11

    Me: Oh, it can’t be that bad, it has missiles, it could just shoot tanks. Just give it a chance.
    Spook not 2 seconds after: “It can only engage air vehicles.”

  • @DirtRidingLarry
    @DirtRidingLarry 3 роки тому +4

    I was helicopter door gunner for several years in the military, I have seen hellfire missiles and sidewinder missiles go stupid and lose track on targets but its usually old stock thats been sitting in a warehouse for years then they give them to us to get rid of during training.

  • @ryman8989
    @ryman8989 4 роки тому +7

    Also to my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) despite how incredibly harmless this thing to literally everyone, everyone will go out of their way to prioritize it as a target. Like it can be sitting between 2 Abrams, both of those Abrams looking at you, and this truck facing the other way and ppl will still rather shoot it above every other actual threat

    • @Marder1A1
      @Marder1A1 2 роки тому +2

      yeah literally ill be minding my own business and the russian mains in their crappy outdated mbts gotta take out their anger on me

  • @taylormiles2003
    @taylormiles2003 4 роки тому +7

    Spookston: fires missile
    Missile: Alright I’m bout to head out

    • @titan_tanker
      @titan_tanker 4 роки тому

      Spookston: alright im about to hit this target-
      Missile: how about NO

  • @galapot2380
    @galapot2380 4 роки тому +69

    I was not first.
    I was not last.
    But damn boi i clicked on this video fast.

  • @TheNikoNik
    @TheNikoNik 4 роки тому +22

    *Gaijin adds chance for weapon to fail*
    Let me guess, Gaijin is now going to add a chance for German engines to also fail or even set on fire spontaneously.
    _Germany suffers even more_

    • @AttiliusRex
      @AttiliusRex 4 роки тому +1

      When gaijin watches top much spookston

    • @AHappyCub
      @AHappyCub 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, they did buff the short stop gun stab from 15km to 24km so that's something

    • @PilotTed
      @PilotTed 4 роки тому +4

      Germany never really suffered, and trust me I know, I ground the german tree up to the Leo 1 and even play the Maus. Who really suffers is British, France, and Italy at low tier. besides that no one tree really suffers much more than the other while germany suffers the least overall.

    • @titan_tanker
      @titan_tanker 4 роки тому

      Unexpected SPANISH INQUISITION what about the uptiered 6.7? Did the new update changes something? I... had enough facing post war tanks

    • @PilotTed
      @PilotTed 4 роки тому +4

      @@titan_tanker yes I get tired of it too but every other country tree gets uptiered into bullshit matchmaking. Shermans against Tiger IIs is not fun for for american players at all unless the tiger II player is an idiot. German 6.7 performs still fairly well even at 7.7, and only really suffers against T54s, 55s, and any other well armored russian tank. Before hte new volumetric shell update, most of the russian heavies at that br range were actually quite easy to kill with the long 88 or the 105 or the 128, hell even the long 75 could do it from the front if you shot trap them. I dont know if the volumetric shell update will completely ruin this ability to do this, but even so, the only country germany has a real hard time with at uptiers is Russia with their very good armor. The British and Americans are very easy to shot trap, aim for weakspots, or just aim any where as many of their tanks at 7.0-7.7 are not all that well armored excluding the M103, Conq, and the T32. Yes I too hate facing HEATFS and sabot in my german vehicles, but imagine playing a sherman with the 76 at 5.7, your gun cant do shit against a panther's UFP, a well angeled tiger I, ferds, Tiger II Hs, Tiger II Ps (easy to kill with a cheekshot though), jagdpanthers, jagdtigers, oh and we cant forget the amazing 5.7-6.7 German CAS like the ME-262 A Narwhal, the Premium Do 335, and many others.

  • @mando_dablord2646
    @mando_dablord2646 4 роки тому +6

    Spookston: *Shoots missile*
    Missile: *Peacefully enjoying the sun*

  • @BenDover-ri2hk
    @BenDover-ri2hk 4 роки тому +7

    This seems to me as being one of two things, an extremely primitive Proportional Navigation law, probably Acceleration=Navigation Constant*Line of Sight Rotation, or it could be the Navigation constant is constantly changing as a Result of V of C or just a poorly written formula possibly missing terms.
    A slightly more advanced form of PN could be added without needing Kallman filtering or time to go/Zero Effort miss calculations that would allow it to keep up with a maneuvering target and all aspect engagement which is what it seems to struggle with at the moment.
    Onto the FIM-92 itself, much is said of the missile and a lot misinterpreted.
    It is a single colour later two colour nutating (rosette scan if Im not mistaken by at least the mid 1980s) Frequency modulating seeker allowing for superb noise suppression in higher micron bands and yet retaining the seeker sensitivity to spot lock and track lower/longer bands of IR radiation on key hot spots of aircraft like the nose, inlet, leading edges rotor disk etc.
    Now while digital and being able to discern some patterns as obvious countermeasures, enough flares at certain aspects and power settings can pose great difficulties to these 3rd gen IR threats in flight and while sitting on the rail its why pre-flaring on attacks became a habit even for Soviet Pilots in Afghanistan. It does not make a missile perfectly immune to flares, They're called missiles for a reason :P

  • @lordskrubsauce8009
    @lordskrubsauce8009 4 роки тому +74

    smh don't call my baby bad its trying its best

    • @goomba0072
      @goomba0072 4 роки тому +19

      but the rockets aren't
      it probably would be more effective with a AA canon with 15mm pen

    • @AmericanIdiot7659
      @AmericanIdiot7659 4 роки тому +1

      @@goomba0072 If it had the MG mounted on it would be technically a huge buff for it lmao

    • @goomba0072
      @goomba0072 4 роки тому +2

      @@AmericanIdiot7659 imagine if the mg's of all tanks would work

    • @AmericanIdiot7659
      @AmericanIdiot7659 4 роки тому +3

      @@goomba0072 MG's are now premium items - Gajin 2021

    • @goomba0072
      @goomba0072 4 роки тому +2

      @@AmericanIdiot7659 in actually scared that this could happen

  • @xvang9346
    @xvang9346 4 роки тому +8

    I would've thought the H.35 with it's APCR shells with bad penetration

    • @Aurora-pi6jr
      @Aurora-pi6jr 4 роки тому +2

      You probably have a higher chance to hit something in it than this piece of work haha

    • @epion660
      @epion660 4 роки тому

      At least with that thing you can shoot Han's head off in the squezey boi...

    • @theoneandonlyartyom
      @theoneandonlyartyom 2 роки тому

      h35 is at reserve br so it can hold its ground (sort of)

  • @wildonion99
    @wildonion99 4 роки тому +23

    Im pretty certain warthunder is an ongoing case of proving some companies have zero ability to code.

  • @bigfish821
    @bigfish821 4 роки тому +6

    I just really want to enjoy the type 93, and I often do, but when the rolling around dodging fire, repairing allies and capping points is more fun that using the thing for what it's intended, we truly have a problem

  • @ausfyausfy2455
    @ausfyausfy2455 4 роки тому +16

    Even the hell fire missiles are acting so weird... (they sometimes track like Aim9 B missiles) I think Gaijin did mess up some of the coding in regards to the missiles seeking ability. Out of curiosity, I also realize ADATS missiles also get flopped by flares and I wonder if that was realistic...

    • @marwankthd1629
      @marwankthd1629 4 роки тому

      Glad I wasn't the only one to notice hellfire's is kinda broken rn.

  • @hilpowuxing8273
    @hilpowuxing8273 4 роки тому +6

    5:24 for the actual commentary

  • @FIRSTtimeGAMER22
    @FIRSTtimeGAMER22 3 роки тому +5

    It seems quite effective. you distract the enemies so much they just pancake into the ground.

  • @bowmen08
    @bowmen08 3 роки тому +2

    The Closed Arrow used on the vehicle is actually based on the Japanese Type 91 MANPADS... which only *looks* like a Stinger, but isn't.
    On the other hand it does apparently have a guidance system that's better than Stinger's, so that's besides the point.
    But the explosive charge might be reduced because of the fact that it's not a Stinger. No sure what the actual charge is though.

  • @flippedstug9517
    @flippedstug9517 4 роки тому +24

    The Clemson L/45 would like to know your location.
    Don't worry, it'll take a while to get there at 28 knots anyway.

    • @chatnicolas02
      @chatnicolas02 4 роки тому

      Ahem.. Soukou Tei (37mm variant); the poor river boat bullied by everything it sees, assuming it even manages to sail towards the battle in the first place.
      But yes, the Clemson is one of the few ships I feel pity towards when destroying it, even if I know the player will someday come back with his new Sumner/Somers class destroyers, all guns blazing.

    • @flippedstug9517
      @flippedstug9517 4 роки тому +1

      @@chatnicolas02 You're thinking of the normal Clemsons, DD-213 and DD-336. The Clemson L/45 has one gun instead of four, the gun itself is worse, it's slower, and has less torpedoes. Same BR.

    • @eliasar5051
      @eliasar5051 4 роки тому

      @@flippedstug9517 Also lets not forget HMS Hawkins (read as Lolkins= heavy cruiser so bad, that gaijin not even dared to announce its release despite being one of the few heavy cruisers in the game by that time), and pretty much most fairmiles in the game (tho I blame compression, not ships for this one)

    • @chatnicolas02
      @chatnicolas02 4 роки тому

      @@flippedstug9517 Oh wow, I had indeed assumed it was the same as (or at least similar to) the Clemson as the American ones as I hadn't looked into the British ships much, but this is just..sad.
      Just watched your review on it, and while I used to complain about the annoying flaws of Japanese destroyers, I think I should have been a bit more grateful in retrospect haha.

  • @killian9314
    @killian9314 4 роки тому +2

    2:59 (Jim carrey drinking water in Liar Liar) Oh COME ON

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 4 роки тому +6

    The Type-91 Surface To Air Missiles replaced their stingers
    being lighter and far better

  • @ELing-ib1ki
    @ELing-ib1ki 4 роки тому +1

    I love how there's the Halo songs and then in the middle it's just Wii Shop Music

  • @litonewo3080
    @litonewo3080 4 роки тому +7

    *Laughs in the Archer*

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay 4 роки тому +2

      At least the Archer can hit its target at less than 50m

    • @hex6970
      @hex6970 4 роки тому +9

      Litonewo The Archer can actually be used properly and get kills consistently

    • @jll5446
      @jll5446 4 роки тому +4

      The archer has one of the best guns at 3.0, and can kill things pretty reliably if you can get the gun on target.
      The type93, on the otherhand...

  • @bungwater1052
    @bungwater1052 4 роки тому +1

    The guy in the Radkampfwagen: who put that body of water there?!

  • @TheSpoon369
    @TheSpoon369 4 роки тому +5

    they never test these high tier Japanese vehicles. The type 60 used to be so broken

  • @connoissuer_of_class
    @connoissuer_of_class 4 роки тому +1

    Looks like the missiles were more coded to deal with jets flying in fast straight lines than anything else... and it even failed to do that half the time.

  • @OpportuneRover
    @OpportuneRover 4 роки тому +4

    Hi Spookston, good video.

    • @skabiks4839
      @skabiks4839 4 роки тому +1

      You havent even watched the video yet?

    • @gabevietor3685
      @gabevietor3685 4 роки тому +1

      @@skabiks4839 You don't need to watch the whole thing to know.

    • @Hedmanification
      @Hedmanification 4 роки тому

      Hi Gabriel, good comment.

    • @OpportuneRover
      @OpportuneRover 4 роки тому

      @@HedmanificationThanks herpie derpie, good reply.

    • @skabiks4839
      @skabiks4839 4 роки тому

      @@gabevietor3685 hmm, yeah true.

  • @mage9564
    @mage9564 4 роки тому +1

    The Halo 3 ODST song at 5:25 is a slammer!

  • @bumo0895
    @bumo0895 4 роки тому +3

    1:27 the mighty type 97 is having a seizure or whatever

  • @TurnyPlays
    @TurnyPlays 4 роки тому +1

    Shakey launcher at 1:22 was my fave part 🤣

  • @s-400triumf9
    @s-400triumf9 4 роки тому +7

    That's Very Dishonorable!

  • @Cacowninja
    @Cacowninja 3 роки тому

    The thumbnail would make a good "What is love, 3 guys in a car bobbing to it" video.

  • @johnm7611
    @johnm7611 4 роки тому +4

    I don't even play ground RB but I still love this channel

  • @gremlin_uwu
    @gremlin_uwu 4 роки тому +1

    If used properly the missile is quite good, it seems to perform better at longer ranges than close, and obviously you have to take into account the trajectory of the enemy aircraft, if you fire the missile at a weird angle it will miss, but if you fire it at an angle were the missile will have no problem hitting the target, well, it's a kill

  • @lore5191
    @lore5191 4 роки тому +14

    2:17

    • @thetype97chiha2
      @thetype97chiha2 3 роки тому

      “Okay I see the chopper”
      “Almost there”
      “Annnnnn- ooooh a squirrel!”

  • @jackgamer6307
    @jackgamer6307 3 роки тому +2

    2:20
    that missile literally flew around the huey.

  • @Cris-xy2gi
    @Cris-xy2gi 4 роки тому +4

    I just wanna point out something: It seems to hit very reliably with shots that are 2km+ and further. Maybe it’s better at range?

    • @Cris-xy2gi
      @Cris-xy2gi 4 роки тому

      Roby Ker Wow. That’s really bad.

  • @TheMalevolentSpoon
    @TheMalevolentSpoon 4 роки тому +1

    At 2:15 when you fired direct at that helicopter, the missile went up to it, did one of those cartoon u-bends right around it, and kept on going, I fucking lost it

  • @ultharaptor
    @ultharaptor 4 роки тому +5

    wait u mean the second worse vehicule after type 60 ATM

    • @somethingelse9440
      @somethingelse9440 4 роки тому +3

      Atleast you can still defend yourself against ground vehicles with the type 60 ATM

  • @SpoonAxe
    @SpoonAxe 10 місяців тому

    The first 2fer for a total of 5 CAS deaths on video
    really had me waiting for this one

  • @A_river_dirt_cheese
    @A_river_dirt_cheese 24 дні тому +1

    The very beginning was definitely something

  • @unturnedhelper3495
    @unturnedhelper3495 3 роки тому +1

    helicopter at 2:21 : Man i feel bad for you here let me crash my self.

  • @spudmanwp
    @spudmanwp 4 роки тому +1

    Between Gaijin not knowing with an "Imaging IR" seeker is, the woeful proximity fuze performance, piss-poor warhead, or the lack of its mach 1.9 speed IRL... no wonder it's the "worst".
    Did they get anything right?
    Just to clarify, the Type93 is not using the Stinger's seeker, but a much more advanced one being IIR/UV. That and the Type 93 is the second version of the Type 91 missile.

  • @mikhailchuryukin675
    @mikhailchuryukin675 3 роки тому

    I feel like the Sergeant York engineers watching their machine fail to hit a hovering target

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims 4 роки тому +2

    “I suppose if they were VERY lucky they COULD give us a headache with that (SAM)”

  • @bomberbaja111
    @bomberbaja111 4 роки тому +1

    And thats why I'm glad that the vechicle before it is literally a licence built Flakpanzer I . I'd rather spray someone with bullets than slowly guide some moody flash while distracted from what's happening on the ground :)

  • @rawchicken3463
    @rawchicken3463 Рік тому

    I half expected it to be "say here's a quick montage" then it'd transition to spook taking about the car

  • @jondoe6663
    @jondoe6663 Рік тому +1

    The Type 93 uses the Type 91 - a weapons system that looks like the stinger, but differs in being 10mm wider, 30mm longer, a bit lighter, and a bit slower. The Type 91 was developed to replace the stinger in JGSDF service, and is thought to have improved guidance, but technical data is hard to come by.

  • @TheAmazingCowpig
    @TheAmazingCowpig 4 роки тому +1

    1:24: the experience in a nutshell, I guess

  • @krispyluck
    @krispyluck 3 роки тому

    Spooktoon tries to shoot down the helicopter
    Helicopter: "Check this out"

  • @Gojira_Wins
    @Gojira_Wins 3 роки тому

    Me: "Oh, it can't be THAT bad can it?"
    Spookston: "Well the missile just..." *gestures broadly*

  • @Sammael66685
    @Sammael66685 4 роки тому +1

    @1:24 When Type 93 realizes is low tier and it's all ground vehicles.

  • @Shatterwings060
    @Shatterwings060 4 роки тому +1

    Spookston: Makes a video about better event vehicles
    Also spookston: Next video, playing the vehicle he asked for.

  • @alexpena5101
    @alexpena5101 3 роки тому

    Vehicle:*fires the missle and misses*
    Me playing the vehicle:you had on job...

  • @jesusofbullets
    @jesusofbullets Рік тому +1

    2 years later, the only addition to the Japanese tech tree was basically an R3 for Japan. Missile improvements for the Type 93 allegedly, but the vehicle is still absolute garbage. It can't even lock onto a stationary KA-50 at 4km because IRCM exists.

  • @Nalothisal
    @Nalothisal Рік тому

    I have never before experienced so much pain in one video about warthunder, until this moment.

  • @wargamingguy7314
    @wargamingguy7314 3 роки тому +1

    Jesus seeing it struggle to destroy a helicopter basically right up on it makes me hurt on the inside

  • @jesusofbullets
    @jesusofbullets 3 роки тому +1

    @Spookston
    You talked about it being roughly a Stinger missile, which isn't a BAD assumption, but still incorrect. The Type 93 fires the Japanese homemade stinger missile, the Type 91, which is one of the few 4 Gen MAN Portable Air Defense System (MANPADS) that exist currently, meaning that unlike the Stinger missiles that we have or the AIM-9's, this missile is actually MODERN (or sub-modern if you define modern as post 2000's) as the first iterations were made in 1991. So if anything, this thing should be WAY better than a Stinger and probably on par with at LEAST an AIM-9L or more likely M. And that's not even going into the further massive improvement with the Type 91 Kai variant that's currently used on active duty Type 93 systems.

  • @skeletor5905
    @skeletor5905 3 роки тому +1

    I gave this thing so many tries before finally just removing it from my lineup.

  • @flufflepuffle6229
    @flufflepuffle6229 4 роки тому

    2:23 dude just feels so bad at how much your vehicle sucks that he just offs himself as mercy to you.

  • @tungstenwall474
    @tungstenwall474 4 роки тому +1

    For best results, you need to wait for jets to fly past your hidden position, and be ready to fire a missile behind them. If given any chance to turn slightly, or climb, they missile will often miss.
    Against heli, Roll D6: 2 up to launch, 5 up hit, 4 up to damage.

  • @Gabryal77
    @Gabryal77 10 місяців тому +2

    Apparently the best strategy for this is to make CAS get second hand depression so bad that they commit suicide

  • @TobeWilsonNetwork
    @TobeWilsonNetwork 3 роки тому

    Love your use of the ODST soundtrack, i still have that CD in my glovebox

  • @rogerh.5792
    @rogerh.5792 3 роки тому +1

    A m16 sticking out of the the car window will be a more effective anti air measure