Chainsaw Man can't be helped
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- chainsaw man manga chapter 166
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This is a review, discussion, breakdown, explained video for chainsaw man chapter 166.
Denji really cant be helped.
This was honestly giant, massive psychological development for Denji. I don't get what's wrong with this chapter, I'm loving part 2 so far.
Yeah if people cant appreciate the character development, story progression, and outstanding writing of these less actiony chapters thats on them
It’s called half of the online fan base is illiterate
@@johnbrown6400 issue people are having is that each arc ends anticlimactic and every cliff hanger leads to disappointment
Same.
@@isaacdayton4962 And the other half really don’t deserve the arrogance they carry themselves with, Denji’s been fucked up and has both recent and childhood trauma, we get it dude that still doesn’t change the fact we’re waiting a week sometimes two-weeks for what’s essentially three lines of dialogue getting passed between characters that sometimes feels like it might as well be AI generated banter, meanwhile it’s been 4 months since anything relevant has truly happened, 4 months of taking left turns from anything interesting it builds up all for the sake of blue-balling its own audience.
Brother isn't ready for 167 😭🙏
This chapter traumatised me
This chapter is tragic. Denji comes to realize how his sexual trauma effects his action and everyone around him. Amazing chapter
People are saying why Denji isnt learning his lesson. Like dude, the man has a childhood trauma that is still unresolved which is what made him the person he is today. All these things are ingrained into his mind since he was a kid and isnt so easy to just shake off. Its made even worse after he lost both Power and Aki.
Old habits, die hard. As they say.
Edit: He is learning but his trauma is still holding him back from completely fixing his issues.
He was shown what the peak of a pretty good life until he was kicked off of it. Now he's on his own trying to get back up there. Now it's coming back down again. Let's hope it ends maybe with him having a ok end
@@rolandoaramirez1746 ok end? That's not the way this manga works, it always makes him more and more miserable .
So the end isn't gonna like some shonen manga, where they kids and all happy imo
@@karan_singh.364I think Fujimoto can go for some ok end. For one, he has written Fire Punch which is his more edgy and dark manga and the MC had arguably experienced way worse than Denji but the ending has him at least happy.
Thing is tho, he is learning, like i can't even imagine part 1 denji realizing that his suffering is because he thinks with his balls rather than his brain. Just him reflecting on what his actual issues are is huge character development for someone like denji
@@micu8942Yeah he is definitely learning. But his trauma is holding him back in some aspects. I'm more talking about his obsession with sex
people really don't understand what sexual trauma is
Lots of people think taking a sip of alcohol or being hit on is the same as being graped.
There is absolutely no surprise here that people will once again, completely misunderstand what happened to Denji. There are still people who think that Denji is just on the spectrum and just had little struggles.
@@g.r.o.g.u.1892your comment started of with a *gigantic* claim and no evidence to support it
citation needed
Lmao..
Neither do you if you think that’s what’s happening… holy hell…
Wrong, people don't understand nor care what a MAN'S sexual trauma is.
It's VERY easy to understand a woman's sexual trauma, but a man's is different.
If this is your first taste, you won't understand what is happening to Dennis.
Go read Sensei's Pious Lie.
I feel like chainsawman is better on a binge than reading weekly with the current state of the story
true, I started reading part 2 when it was only at chapter 150, I finished the whole thing in a single sitting because it was so good
Tbh I love this chapter and how Fuji's handling Denji's trauma
Before, Denji knew that what he was doing was wrong, but he mostly just said in his head that he'd probably be able to get over it and that he's done with all this
And it's all led up to this chapter where he finally broke down because he hates himself so much for not being able to change much. Although I'd say that the very fact he broke down this hard means that he recognises it, which is indeed development imo ( Addiction in general is indeed an ugly thing )
I also love how Denji's speech about wanting girlfriends here is a big parallel to the time he did it in Part 1. Back then it was about him realising that he was allowed to live more selfishly and do his own thing, whereas now he hates himself because he has been living selfishly ( to an extent anyway )
the sad part about it is he hasn't realy done anything wrong. Him living "selfishly" didnt realy ruin everything it was mostly outside forces and yet he blames himself for all of it.
what did he do that was wrong? he didnt do anything
@@JinchurikiDemon I was referring to how Denji told himself back in the aquarium that he wanted to stop mindlessly obeying, but unfortunately fell back into old habits
Same for the theatre scene with Fumiko where he was thinking about what he should have done, but unfortunately fell back into old habits again
I'm not saying it's bad that he did this, I'm just saying that it's what finally led to him breaking down in this recent chapter about how he wants to change, but can't completely do it
Denji is surrounded by people who just wanna fight him or see him fight. They wanna see Chainsaw Man! They don't want to see this strange, pathetic, human display. They don't want motivations to be questioned or the id to be wrestled with.
Fujimoto is also surrounded by people who wanna see Chainsaw Man fight. This is a (bi?)weekly! Where's the blood!? We don't have time for this chit-chat!!!!
Art is imitating life and life is imitating art. I'm convinced the man is a genius.
You needed convincing? The Gun Devil. . . .That fucking did it for me.
This part was basically the great Chainsaw man fan filter
Yes we all saw that morons vid defending the recent chapters. As a fan of part 1 and fire punch I can honestly say the quality of this manga has dipped drastically.
Copying words from chibi reviews
"Gyat", I didn't copy that from any review, what do you think
when content creators control your thoughts
What tf does that mean
Honestly this chapter is what put my faith back in fujimoto after the past few chapters I've felt like something was off but now I'm thinking it was completely on purpose
Edit: WTF WAS 167
Yeah it feels like we’ve been building to this
Honestly reminds me of Rudy’s journey from the first episodes of season 2 of jobless reincarnation
I completely agree
Part 2 just didnt seem to have a many connected events.
@@jj6184i respect the comparison. Although, Denji is significantly less cringe because we as the audience know the Rudy is a reincarnated pervert whereas Denji is a extremely underdeveloped idiot that is fixated on primal desires due to his upbringing. Making you feel more pity for Denji than disgust like in rudy’s case.
Bro is finna drop ‘THE MOST EXPLOSIVE CSM CHAPTER” 💀
LMAOOOO
“It was me Denji” - reverse flash
I LOVE PART TWO. I wanna go back and read part one one chapter a week and just sit on each chapter so I can compare better. I got into chainsawman at the end of part 1
Dude 167 is absolute cinema.
Can't wait to see the HJ arc movie
@@AshoreNevermoreMaplestar is sweating right now
fandom has been real quit since this (167) dropped 💀
Nah they cooking Fujimoto on Twitter rn 💀
1:18 DID HE KNOW (ch 167)
This chapter was so funny but sad at the same time. Denji can't catch a break...poor guy...even sideburns guy was sad this week, poor brothel...
I hope Asa gives Denji some booty. Also I'm liking this slower pace. I hope it continues.
I’d never heard of anyone who referrers to Katana man as something other than Katana man
Until now
Bro what?? Dennis needs to grow as a character first
This chapter felt like Denji’s continuation into more of his breakdown over losing so much. He doesn’t know where Nayuta is, he lost his pets, his home, his fame, had been cut up and more of his sanity the longer this persists. I can’t speak for anyone else but I didn’t hate the chapter. I just wanted there to be more answers rather than random things happening.
The feeling of disarray and chaos from the last 4 chapters as they go from place to place is really cool as it reflects how denji is feeling as he suddenly has gone from having one relation to the next with many of these characters like asa and katana while losing nayuta. It's really solid writing. I recently reread part 2 and it really reaffirmed my love and faith in Fujimoto. These chapters are going to be really solid in dat tankobon format as he's setting up some really fucking crazy shit. Let him cook
Its giving One Piece post time skip (one long build up to wano with whole cake island as an appetizer). So many people dropped the series @dressrosa/zou
notice how denji is biting his finger the same way Makima used to bite on his finger 👀
Man's going to have a heart attack after reading 167 😅
I don't think anyone who seriously engages with Fujimoto's work could just see this as chapter as 'funny.' Look at Kobeni and Denji's convo at the end of Part 1 or look at their character arcs in general. What seems funny on the surface is actually traumatic and normal(ized) in this world.
WE ARE SO BACK
All these stories about female trauma really got ppl not understanding true male trauma, " no gyats on the premise"
Nah.. he's not ready for 167...
Bro got assaulted SO HARD😭
Csm has been pretty slow lately but been great for the character development. It’s my favorite manga still
I agree my dude it’s a slow burn that’s going to build into a crazy crescendo
PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK
GET FILTERED
GET FILTERED
GET FILTERED
GET FILTERED
It feels like a slice of life in a way and I don’t mind it
Gege fuji dropping controversial chaps at the same time
IMO both were great
@@jj6184Real
I need you to explain 167.
Chapter 167🖐
Sigh _unzips_
I feel like for those who are super into the series, there's a TON to pull from this chapter. For casual fans, not so much, and im chill with that
The calm before the storm
Ridiculous time to be alive. Being able to weekly keep up with a story that shows immense promise. Just for it to seemingly “fall off” for a little second; Not really looking like its leading to much of a revelation soon. And BOOM! What a crazy guy this author is. (In retrospect, i agree with the idea that Chainsaw man is meant to be binged series. And shouldn’t be judged harshly on a weekly basis.)
Chainsaw man is officially new Hub
Love the thumbnail for this one, good shit.
These last 2 chapters were the most engaging for me? i don't know if that's a hot take or not lol, the whole thing at the devil prison while funny felt boring except from the Pochita/Denji segment, the lack of bombastic art to accompany the action and goofiness of the situation made it kinda whatever to read through as opposed to part 1 and early part 2 where the panels were filled with so much detail you could look at them for a while before turning to the next page, anyway the art discussion about CSM has been talked about to death but i felt it was worth mentioning.
Denji had a breaking point for the eleventh time and i can't help but feel awful for him throughout 166 with him trying to make sense of his need for sex instead of focusing on finding Nayuta. While what Dennis talks about is weird it's not really meant to make you laugh and Fujimoto says as much by having Devin shout "it's not funny!". He thought about it before but it finally broke on him the fact that almost everything wrong in his life has had to with sex and he's stuck in this cage created by Makima that he hasn't been able to escape all this time.
Asa isn't helping either, all the events throughout part 2 made her become jaded and dismiss many awful things in front of her while still being picky about things like Katana smoking in the train and also being moved like a chess piece by Fami and not questioning whether their actions are really being done in good faith, Denji himself calls her out on this. She also doesn't take his words into account and just repeats that she will save him, ignoring both the idea that she doesn't have as much free will as she thinks nor whether what she's doing is really what Damian needs and for those reasons i just don't feel comfortable about her want to save him just yet lol.
I just let the storyteller tell his story. CSM has never been a typical shonen jump manga, but among even shonen manga, high powered action every week isnt the norm anyway. JJK, 'bachi, and even One Piece are on their high action arcs right now, and CSM is thinking at the same time. Its not a big deal, and I genuinely enjoy it.
I do think that the dive onto Denji's character (and everyone elses) maybe a bit artificial. There is something going on a little more than being blase about the world being terrible.
Denji should, and normally would be thinking about Nayuta and not his...pecker. Asa barely cares about a missing arm...pretty traumatic for most people. It feels like the only strong relationships that exist are between our misfit companions right now, as if an overwhelming force has isolated them from the rest of the world.
1:17 great use of word Choice
Dude, I get if people want action, but part 2 has already been established as more contemplative. There’s a literal focus in the first few chapters on perception of the self clashing with the perception of others.
Responsibility for people that don’t fully understand responsibility that they have. Denji wants to live a life that he’s not allowed to because of responsibilities that have been thrust upon him. Denji isn’t a good guy. He’s a sexual deviant with extreme curiosity. It’s the perspective of people who wish for different things coming together over their similar feelings in concept, but different goals and places they wish to be.
The importance is the characters and how the world effects them, rather than how the they effect the world. Denji is currently lost in the world, even more so than before. Before, even if it was forced together by Makima, he had a pseudo family he subconsciously cared about, he had a job, a purpose: killing the gun devil, even if it was to fulfill a perverse desire.
Even though it was different in some ways from the world he grew up in under the yakuza, it was now a world that he continued to develop in up in under Makima’s rule and watchful eye. He has been under someone’s control all his life. And now he’s more free than he’s ever been, even with people still watching over him, he’s made more choices for himself than he has ever been able to before, but is still held to be responsible, responsible for nayuta, to live as “normal” as a life as he can as he raises her, while still being chainsaw man.
Denji doesn’t know what a “normal” life is, he never has, and he can’t ever know due to all the circumstances his life holds.
Been enjoying part 2 so far, here's my tip for the people who are suffering because of the story and pace. I binged CM pt 1 after it finished and honestly that was a great decision on my part for not reading it when it was serialized weekly, I believed that pt 2 will also be a better read when it's completed. So I advise those of you who are a disappointed with CSM to put it down for a year or so and then come back, trust me it's worth it.
I feel like Fujimoto really (really) needs a break, I can especially see that through the rough drawings lately (Imo) Fujimoto isn’t mangaka like Oda or Horikoshi who can draw in a small timeframe for years with almost no problems. Fuji needs rest and time to gain energy.
looks like he's enjoying.
@@pranay4059 Nah at this point for Fuji, it’s a normal Tuesday.
Difference is that horikoshi has been getting a lot of breaks recently (rightfully so) I wish fujimoto would go on one too
@@cursedspirit9yeah the good writing should be getting breaks
downfall of denji
When people can’t read 🙄
One interesting detail is how in train Denji starts to bite his finger. Like, he is so stressed he's looking for comfort in memories of Makima. I've seen a tweet saying that in this chapter Denji is an abuse victim, having a hypersexuality episode and realizing it's ruining his life, and i kinda see it.
I HAVE COME 2 weeks after this video WTF FUJIMOTO CSM 167
I believe the "rescue" of Denji, in this arc, is still happening. Getting him out of public safety building was only the first step. And I think Denji's recent actions is humanizing Chainsaw Man for the other characters. They have had this idealistic vision of who he was, and Denji is showing everyone how broken he actually is.
Everybody's views (especially in the comments) on this chapter are kind of two-sided;
It's either a really praised or a really disappointed view on the chapter.
Now both Asa and Denji have seen each other at their lowest. Fujimoto's character work is excellent.
Can you do 167
So about that new chapter 💀💀💀💀
That shit was hot
For me this chapter was peak among peak, seeing Dennis confront himself like that was so good and just amazing character development
this chapter was the funniest AND saddest thing i've read in a long while. and justto clarify the funny part is just because of the absurdity of it all.
Fuji sensei can write a damn book and I'll read it
I don't need any fights here
Im sick of shonentards
This was one of peak moments in weeb community
Jjk fans talking about hype fight twist
Csm fans dealing with emotional damage of shit happening in Denji's life
And thats why I love it, I want to feel things that will be forever with me
Thing that xan CHANGE MY LIFE FOREVER
I wonder if katana will try and stop war for cutting off denji jewels cause it's his manly hood or whatev or maybe right before it gets cut off denji will back out or something
10/10 chapter.
I love how Fujimoto mixes humor and real dark shit. You could remove the words and just Denjis face will break you, adding Fujis comedic touch, its just genuinely insane. I dont understand how he does it.
I fell in love with part 1, but I am drowning in laughs and smiles with part 2. That last couple pages, omg. WHY??!?!?!?!?!?! lmao.
I swear Denjis getting ready for a pull my cord joke and its NOT GOING TO GO WELL.
167💀
Seeing Denji have a breakdown like this was a tough watch but still a huge step forward for him. It reminds me that Denji is someone that had no parents and missed out on a decade of education and peer socialization. He’s realizing the goal of sex was an awful one.
Denji is spiraling a lil, and it comes off as childish, which is beautiful. Denji is still a kid who's drowning in problems. He's chainsaw man, but that responsibility of being a hero has cost him a lot fr. Asa came in clutch though, and I love that Sideburns is getting more time to shine
Even denji does not believe in what he does btw and in the same scene we see him licking his finger which comes from a trauma with makima
0:15 bruh I though this was a face reveal of him for a second there
Great chapter. As to how far we go with this: I think we strap in because we are going all the way.
Denji being controlled by everything but himself
I feel like this is kinda similar to what happened with Shinji in End of Evangelion when he masturbated in front of Asuka. Denji has been through so much turmoil physically, mentally, emotionally, and so on, to the point where he feels he has no to emotionally lean on for support. So as a result to help cope with everything, he goes with his primal instincts in order for him to cope which in this case it's sex/masturbation. He's in so much pain, that they just for a brief moment of pleasure just for the pain to go away. It's a coping mechanism a lot of people go through, especially when they're alone and they are dealing with loss.
Cant wait to see all the video essays on how 167 is actually really deep and not weird at all💀😂😂
Nutting happened 💀
Sex, Puberty, Coming of age, and Denji busting a nut has literally been the primary point of this series since chapter 4. If you thought Denji and Asa going to a private alley last chapter wasn't going to lead to a sexual situation, especially after Denji literally spells out the point of his character arc OUT LOUD, I don't know what to tell you 🤷🏿♂️
we're already getting a couple
Chainsaw man part 2 is like the farmland arc from vinland saga
Chainsaw Man Saga lol is just Vinland saga with devils instead of Vikings, modern Japan instead of 10th/11th century Iceland, and comedy instead of a moral quandary.
@@jimbo7551 yeah, the same thing
I think we’re going into the tournament ark
Good video, some people just don't like to read manga and just like complain tbh.
Homunculus is one of my favorite manga and for about 90% of it, it's just people yapping but there is a narrative that keeps chugging from beginning till the end. The narrative of Part 2 has been in a rut since Falling Devil arc.
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I honestly still love chainsaw man. For me chainsaw man’s strong suite has always been in its characters and their relationships with one another which is why I love part 2. I love seeing these more character driven chapters particularly between Denji and asa relationship
Honestly I think you’re right. Right now it pretty damn slow, but I think we need to enjoy what we got now before everything starts going too shit. Gotta enjoy the “Calm before the storm”
I dont people understand what it means to experience true tragedy. Denjis reaction mirrors exactly how i felt about recently losing a loved one and for me it was incredibly relatable
Part 2 feels like an acid trip that somehow hits home
This is just Fire Punch. S3lf Mutil4tion has been par for the course rhroughout this manga, not just in general, but public safety dismembered his member just a few chapters ago😬☝️
As always, he is cooking. He has never let us (me) down. The flavors are intensifying and absolutely nobody has come close to predicting where it's headed, he'll keep us guessing to the last page.
And I have faith that when it's over, we'll look back on it and see PEAK.
After reading the newest chapter, can confirm the title is true
Fanboys don't realise that this manga will take a bigger nosedive then bleach when it's animated.
Personal every time I hear people complain about a chapter/episode being boring, I instantly think they are just your typical shonen action anime viewer who only wants a cool fight scene. I have yet to read a chapter of part 2 i didn't enjoy. It's way different from part 1, and i get how that can throw people off, but it's still CHAINSAW MAN! Just let the man do his thing. Part two has some amazing character writing and mysteries about it. Let it cook!
I guess I'm just disappointed that people are so closed-minded to part 2. I dont think it's reached the heights of part 1, but it has the potential to!
Sorry about the rant. Chainsaw man fan here.
i loved the chapter it really made me realise how flawed Denji was, it was really tender
This chapter was really good one of the best in the part
This was one of my favorite chapters in part 2
i just love everything fujimoto is doing rn !!!
WORST PREDICTION EVER HOLY NEW CHAPTER
Honestly if you are still reading it and expecting some spectacular frenetic action and gore flying everywhere every chapter, you will be extremely disappointed. Fuji is fully focusing on his strengths since chapter 1 of part 2 that is the world and characters.
Denji's growth was never going to be linear, people underestimate how much the shit he went through in part 1 has affected him. Hell I have seen stupid takes like him killing and eating Makima solved most of his problems and that everything for him should have been smooth sailing in part 2. It doesn't work like that, I am sure Denji will have to take more steps backward, so he can learn more about the issues he has and work on them and I am afraid it is not happening withing next 10 or even 20 chapters, it will get more messy and this is just the start. It is never that easy to take the first step, never!
Regarding this chapter, It is absolutely the most important and one of the best CSM chapters, Denji not only recognizing but also voicing out the problem is very big for his character and I know everyone wants him to find Nayuta, grieve for the pets and wants Fuji to move the plot blah blah blah... but this has to be done right now, Denji needs to face these issues right now, he needs to learn that running from them will just haunt him more and that he can't fix them right away and it is going to be painful but he has to endure it and face them. I just hope there is someone who listens to his problems and stays with him till the end because he definitely cant do this all on his own.
Also hope Fuji takes more breaks and focuses on his health, this chapter was also a step up in terms of drawings, some great Denji expressions(Fuji's expressions are always on point especially the way he drew Haruka's reactions these past few chapters) and framing was beautiful too.
Am I the only one who noticed that Fujimoto's drawing style has changed?
I like how this chapter forshdows chapter 93, showing how him mindset and basic desires are developing past pleasure. He wants to change for the people he cares about.
You ALMOST had me there for a minute dude! lol
With chapter 168 chainsaw man. Denji about to solve all the problems with that post nut clarity of chapter 167. 😂
I love slowburns so I'll gladly sit here and watch Fujimoto cook :)
i actually laughed out loud reading most of this chapter, i loved denji being his old self again, i get sad it’s so short every week but ive been enjoying everything he’s cooking up
wtf the author literally resolved like half of the tension in CSM in this chapter. It was good shit mate??
This is Denji coming to terms with his addiction and the ramifications it’s had on his life. He has so much trauma that is unaddressed and this is it finally bubbling up to the surface.
when you think about it asa is probably scary to talk to considering how she just switches and you don’t know haha
Chainsaw man has always been a love letter To me, and everyone like me. Why is it a love letter? To really understand it you got to look at it from my point of view. My father’s a gambler. he beats me. my mother is missing. at school I don’t really relate to anyone. I don’t understand them. I never really succeeded at anything. Every time something good comes along, it is taken away. And… I’m just so horny all the time. This chapter is so polarizing, because there are two kinds of people who reads it. People just coming off the high of part one, and people like me who was with it from the beginning. New people’ll read this chapter and ask? where’s all the action? Well for me, the action only hits as hard as it does because Denji/Asa is like me. This chapter is great because they’re both me, and they’re doing something they don’t understand, and they’re alone, and it’s weird and funny. And here’s the love letter part. It’s only a love letter, because it doesn’t really care if people, unlike me, hates it. Fuck you if you don’t understand, because this chapter is not for you. It’s for me.😂
This is important for the plot and im all up for this
We're getting a Togata 2 aren't we.
Who's that?
@@captainpancake8177 Read Fire Punch.
@@b0ne_fiend nah I just wanted to know tbh
@@captainpancake8177 I mean, Togata is like the second most important character in Fire Punch, that's why I told you to go read it
But if you only want to know, go look at a Fire Punch wiki or something
What does fujimoto smoke? This shit is not about Neon Genesis Evangelion
Fujimoto is definition of let him cook
He didn't cry because he couldn't go to the brothel...he cried cause he became more self-aware of his own patheticness, the fact that he can't change. I haven't been enjoying Part 2 much, but this chapter is step in the right direction. This is a unique issue that Fujimoto is tackling here, and no doubt a very personal one. At this point, I think this series has lost a lot of entertainment value, but still has the potential to be valuable in general, especially to people like Denji. It all just depends on where the story goes, and what meaning we can find in it. I'm hoping for some amazing catharsis down the line.
bro wtf is fucking video at 5:44 LMAO
how can you read a chapter where a character finally comes to the realization his sexual trauma affects everything around him and the best words you can come up with is "pathetic" and "obnoxious"? like come on you're usually spot on with these videos, I dont know what happened here.
I loved this chapter, I laughed at Denji, felt bad for Denji, and got even more excited for more of these characters interactions.
csm and choujin x are the only chapters i read as soon as they drop, part 2 is incredible