"I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, *the resurrection of the body,* and life everlasting."
@@dantheman909 exactly. And interestingly, it just so happens that the small “c” catholic church is the Catholic Church. The Church Jesus established and built upon the rock that is Saint Peter. Only the Catholic Church has a legitimate claim to being One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.
There's more hope imbued in the Christian story than in any other religious narrative. Everything else is about escaping a corrupt and fallen world. Christianity is about redeeming it. What a beautiful vision we get the chance to participate in!
This is a very important distinction. Plato was the first writer that got me to think in purely abstract terms. It was terrifying at first and then enriching. I used “Phaedo” in my doctoral paper on aesthetics. But Christianity’s hope is much more dramatic and “outrageous” because we believe in the resurrection of body and soul integrated and one.
@@berwynsigns4115 Good question. Well for me personally it was because I’m on the autism spectrum. I was accustom to only thinking consciously in very concrete terms. To slowly be able to think in the abstract was very disorienting to me.
@@mommyseastar5776But physical resurrection is even less conceivable concretely. Will it be the body of the infant, child, adult, or elder one died as???
Did not the Lord answer the Sadduzee's question as to which of her husbands the widow in heaven would be married to: "They will be like angels". [Matthew 22:23-33]
"The soul shall be restored to the body, and the body to the soul; yea, and every limb and joint shall be restored to its body; yea, even a hair of the head shall not be lost; but all things shall be restored to their proper and perfect frame." (Alma 40:23) So no aches or breaking down, your body will be perfect!
@@RJJ-yn1zh Fullness of truth is a cute slogan but it's not true. It's not even biblical. If they had fullness of truth they'd know everything, disagree on nothing and they'd never change their minds.
@@tinman1955 Our brother there used the word "misinterpret" probably because he missed that you claimed it's not Biblical. Yet, it's fully biblical. That "slogan" has been used for a really long time, so it may not quite fit in modern translations. 1 Timothy 3:15 (RSV) "[...] if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth."
We live in the light of his Paschal Mystery - the mystery of his Death and Resurrection. “We are an Easter People and Alleluia is our song!” -Pope John Paul II
One other way to think about it is that if the body is the mold of the soul and the resurrected body is the body perfected, then our souls are not just preserved in Heaven merely existing and being remembered, but they continue to be shaped into perfection carrying with it all the good the body has witnessed in life on Earth while the bad has fallen away, and they continue to live, seeing hearing, and doing.
Very true. We (Christians, and I'd argue non-believers as well) naturally hunger for THINGS to be redeemed, to be made right and perfect. And hallelujah, this is God's plan.
In 2015, i felt a spiritual joining after I said a prayer asking God to lift a depression without a cause. I found a picture given to me by a man who was my high school friend older brother. My friend died in 2006 and I felt something was wrong and tried to find her to make sure she was okay. She died. Her older brother died the morning I found his picture in 2015. I have no doubt there is life after death.
This for me is a harder aspect of the Faith to grasp. I'd be curious on some works that specifically deal with Christian afterlife/Resurrection of the Christian body
Personally I don't see why it's wrong or incorrect to be satisfied with the human body dying (which it does) and the spirit joining Heaven. It seems beyond physicality and "logic" which makes sense for the Spirit
@Ser Castamere does he mean when Christ returns, our bodies join our soul, when the new Jerusalem comes to earth? Revelation tells us heaven will ultimately be on earth. That is why Jesus says, "....I'll be with you, even until the end of the AGE, not the end of the World.
@@sercastamere9853 it’s incorrect because Jesus promised that on the last day, we will be raised up in our earthly bodies. We don’t believe that our souls entering heaven when we die is the endgame.
Physics itself is not yet correctly understood. We don't know what consciousness is in relation to objects. We don't have a theory of consciousness. Scripture and other religious traditions as well makes some startling claims about eschatological events that will heal and set people free not only in the day of salvation but throughout all generations. The gods - broken aspects of consciousness that interdimensionally interact with various circles objective material being - will be reconciled with one another and the laws of decay will be reversed. "All creation longs with eager anticipation for the revelation of the sons of God" (Romans 8:19). Does the total global quality of our relationships with one another - how we X love God and each other - affect how DNA replicates and how the shortening of telomeres impact the way we grow old and eventually die? Because that's just one of the sort of startling changes that would need to practically take place for the resurrection of the body to be more than a religious formula. Physics itself would need to change profoundly. And maybe you think physics is immutable. It's quite possible that this very thought - which is based on experience and assumption, not reason - is an obstacle to the very change that would need to take place. Is "Physics" the god that you believe determines the essence and outcomes of reality?
Literally the Bible debunks this several times. To paraphrase Paul in 1 Corinthians: If there's no physical resurrection, then Jesus didn't resurrect, if Jesus didn't resurrect, we've believed in vain. I think this was in 1 Cor 15.
We will receive our bodies back. God will unite our bodies with our souls but the body will be glorified. Just like Jesus' body after his resurrection.
@@georgebronte840 yeah I don't think we need to understand that all now. It's dangerous to focus on aliens and planets. Instead we should thank God for all the animals that we can use our disposal. And also aliens are demons. Usually people who think aliens are benevolent are miserable.
@OSULLIVAN101Peace be with you. Truly there is no reason to accept your claim that there are no such things as bishops especially when we know otherwise. “Preaching what he cannot prove”? What measure of proof can there be that would be sufficient for you? “What he doesn’t know”? I assure you many know the God he is preaching about, and in the end, all will know Jesus is Lord. Praying for you to know His loving grace and presence
Plato depicted the idea of the other world by describing this one as a shadow cast on the wall of a cave from the light shining through the opening of it with our backs to the aperture. Life in this world to Plato is only a shadow compared to the life in the other world where we will see things as they actually are.
I think, at least for myself, I tend to view the higher pitch of perfection has a platonic ring to it. Even if it were to be an embodied ressuruction, it doesn't have to be our body now, or in a manner that we can understand, does it? Edit: spell check.
Another problem: We know that not only we , homo sapiens, but also our ancestor homo neanderthalensis and even homo heidelbergensis was religious. They stay in their bodies too just in a "higher pitch of perfection"?
Dear Bishop Barron what does this "higher pitch of perfection" look like? Please, what do we hope to do with this higher pitch body? Will a higher pitch body help us continue to Praise, Glorify and Serve God?
Christ's risen body is the first example of that. The details are left for our own speculations, as Paul seems to tell us. Worship is natural to humanity so that's a given. We worship in a quite different sense than the angels and the animals do. Some hints about it are given in the Resurrection appearances. Jesus seemingly appearing inside houses out of nowhere, looking as healthy as ever, and yet looking so much better that the Apostles often took a second to realize it was the man they spent every day with for years. Another hint is that Jesus tends to start off with a "Do not be afraid" Jesus didn't say that during his ministry. Except by implication in the Transfiguration. That's a phrase that Angels and God do when appearing to someone. It's a "numinous" fear, the experience held when meeting with the supernatural or the presence of extreme holiness. Can't tell you more than that. The Church Fathers have gone on and on forever about what could be. May God bless us all with life everlasting. Amen.
You truly feed my spirit heart mind. Contemplate mystically. The holy spirit in me i seem to digest gives me great spiritial food for my whole being esp in my deepest need for these messages & i share them when i am shown who to share with❤❤❤love from feench rosary praying catholics of Louisiana
Life everlasting even going to heavan humbles me to gods holy fear. Eternity is scary for me at times even if it is in heavan because we will continue to grow holy. That is humbling but gives me holy fear of God my father. What we cant understand or think differently about our safe place is profound more than i can even begin to put into words. Love you bishol Barron. Thank you for your short simple lowerful message. It leaves me with alot to meditate on. I thank God for your wisdom knowledge understanding from God that you FEED US WITH
64. And immediately his mouth and tongue were opened, and he spoke, praising God. 65. And fear fell upon all their neighbors. And he talked about all these things throughout all the mountains of Judea. 66. Then all who heard them deposited it in their hearts, saying, “Do you see what this child is like?” And the hand of the Lord was with him (Luke, 1) What did the boy do that made those present marvel at him and talk about him in the mountains of Judea?
On this point I agree more with Plato than with Bishop Barron. We Christians can also learn from Gentiles (as Augustine and Aquinas did). Christ said little about the nature of the resurrection. After all, this: "They will be like angels."
Jesus Christ broke the bands of death, and became the first-fruits of the Resurrection. The physical Resurrection of Jesus Christ is a core Christian belief. The promise of a Savior and Redeemer was given to Adam. As by Adam all die, so by Christ all will live again. O'death where is thy sting? The scripture teach many things about the Resurrection. Christ himself the great Exemplar. ❤️
@@firstLast-gb9kr Maybe you did not understand me: Of course, the resurrection is mentioned in a number of places in Scripture, and no one doubts that the resurrection from the dead is an essential element of Christian theology. I wrote that Christ said next to nothing about the NATURE of the resurrected body - except for little hints like: "It will be very different: you will then be like the angels of God in heaven“ [Matthew 22:30]. There is no contradiction in that with Plato. The remainder is metaphysical speculation...❤
@@Sfenx_Muenchen Christ showed more than he said. Regarding the nature of the Resurrection, read Luke 24:39. See what he said. It wasn't metaphysical speculation. At least for them. 😉
@@firstLast-gb9kr What does Christ's incarnate presence on earth say about His Being in heaven ? “And THE LORD appeared to him [Abraham] by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat at the door of his tent in the heat of the day. He lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, THREE MEN were standing in front of him.“ [Genesis 18,1-2] Genesis 18:1 says clearly that it was “the LORD” (Yahweh) who appeared to Abraham. It is the LORD who speaks in verses 13, 20, 26, and 33. Abraham stands “before the LORD” in verse 22. So at least one of the three “men” must have been God Almighty. So my question again: what does Christ's incarnate presence on earth say about His Being in heaven??? (As for me, I don't want to speculate, much less argue about things that God Himself leaves transcendent - i.e. hidden.) 🤗
@@Sfenx_Muenchen the question was in regards to what Christ Jesus said about the Resurrection of the body. I highlighted a few below. Luke 24:39 (Jesus) "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: HANDLE me, and SEE; for a spirit has not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." These men became personal witness to the resurrected LORD. In this instance, the Lord Jesus Christ showed them that he was physical. And while they were mystified and wondered. Jesus said more. Luke 24:41"...Have ye any meat?" Luke 24:43 "And (Jesus) took, and did eat before them." Additionally, we have the witness of Thomas. See John 20:24-31 And the words of Jesus, ..."Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand and thrust into my side: be not faithless but believing." ...and there is more. I'll leave the mystery of pre-incarnation for another time.
How is that supposed to happen? And how shall a body, that in the core of its construction incl all details, made only for a short period of time, be for an eternity?
@@alonsoACR So you will have a dysfunctional body after life? A body made for a life in time and space that suddenly doesnt need to breath, to eat, to drink? A body made for the gravitation on earth and not a permanent life outside of space. Think about it.
I wonder of we sometimes mistakenly take the man (Plato) too literal. He wrote under a pseudonym in literary dialogue form with Socrates as the main character who thought him to be sceptical. The carriage ascending up into the sky could also be seen as the ressurection of a soul within a body. Any search for meaning and beauty in life. What do you think?
Eastern mystics have mastered this vibrational elevation the best: bilocation, healing the sick, levitation etc. But some Catholic saints have also gotten there.
Thanks for the reminder of this core belief of our Catholic faith, Bishop Barron. "~And I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen." 🙏 ✝️
"This is indeed the will of my Father, that all who see the Son and believe in him may have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day.” *-Jesus (Jn 6:40)*
Islamic belief is that on the day of judgment, everyone will be resurrected with their body & soul. After accountability from God, we will either enter heaven or hell.
I’ve always thought that when we die, the spirit goes immediately to heaven and the perfected body doesn’t join it again until the second coming of Jesus.
No my hope in the resurrection is that I become unified with God. All else is darkness. And even our language isn't completed enough to describe it correctly
The soul does leave the body and the spirit goes to Heaven, hell or purgatory, the body turns to ashes. At the end of the world, we get our perfected body. The body is not the most important part.
Indeed! At long last, someone has spoken up about how the false concept of the rapture has unjustly overshadowed the true significance of the resurrection of the deceased, which should rightfully hold a central position in the hopes of evangelicals.
You're right, even Catholics think our souls leave the body, when that's not what the Catholic faith teaches. We are raised Body and Soul!❤ Thank you Bishop Barron!❤
@@johnnastrom9400 The Catholic church is officially agnostic to the questions of evolution and the age of the Earth. Most Catholic schools teach evolution. Two other things about the Bible I hope might spur your curiosity. Much of God's word is in the form of parables, not literal history. Christ tells us so in Matthew 13:13 and Mark 4:33. The Bible is not a message just for today. It is a message that needed to be understandable to Bronze and Iron age humans, so that they could believe and deliver it to us in modern times. (And if you are going to ask "why do we have to do anything if God is all powerful", I would say that one of the purposes of mortal life is for us to learn the nature of good and evil. God magically fixing all of our problems would prevent us from learning and growing. And yes its all just and fair because the innocent, the downtrodden and the broken shall receive eternal healing and love in heaven (because through their Earthly suffering they helped fulfill God's purpose of teaching the nature of Good and Evil).)
At death, the soul, body and spirit are separated. This is the sting of death. For the spirit without the body could never receive the fullness of joy. Jesus Christ broke the bands of death with his Resurrection and Atonement making it possible to return and live in God's presence, and to receive a fullness of joy.
@@JakeDanczyk I understand that. My point was that no one religion knows for sure what happens after death. And a resurrection of the body does not make sense from a philosophical view but reincarnation does make sense.
Kind of hard to have the body resurrected after a cremation? But then if the body and soul have not been perfected before the particular judgment day, what is the point of purgatory?
"I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
*the resurrection of the body,*
and life everlasting."
And Catholic meaning universal not “Roman Catholic” I hope
@@dantheman909 exactly. And interestingly, it just so happens that the small “c” catholic church is the Catholic Church. The Church Jesus established and built upon the rock that is Saint Peter. Only the Catholic Church has a legitimate claim to being One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.
Amen ❤
@@dantheman909the Roman Catholic Church is the universal church founded by Christ and Peter.
It's in the Nicene Creed. '..the resurrection of the body and life everlasting. "✝️🙏
It's "the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come".
Exactly. It’s in the Nicene Creed, no less. How can so many of us miss it? Good reminder by bishop Barron, as always 🙏
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That’s the apostle’s creed, not the nicene creed
There's more hope imbued in the Christian story than in any other religious narrative. Everything else is about escaping a corrupt and fallen world. Christianity is about redeeming it. What a beautiful vision we get the chance to participate in!
This is a very important distinction. Plato was the first writer that got me to think in purely abstract terms. It was terrifying at first and then enriching. I used “Phaedo” in my doctoral paper on aesthetics. But Christianity’s hope is much more dramatic and “outrageous” because we believe in the resurrection of body and soul integrated and one.
Why would it be terrifying?
@@berwynsigns4115 Good question. Well for me personally it was because I’m on the autism spectrum. I was accustom to only thinking consciously in very concrete terms. To slowly be able to think in the abstract was very disorienting to me.
@@mommyseastar5776But physical resurrection is even less conceivable concretely. Will it be the body of the infant, child, adult, or elder one died as???
Did not the Lord answer the Sadduzee's question as to which of her husbands the widow in heaven would be married to: "They will be like angels".
[Matthew 22:23-33]
@@etienne_laforet That never really bothered me because I leave that up to the Lord. There are some things I just will not know in this life.
We should, above all else, desire to be in the presence of the Lord, King for all eternity. Glorified bodies is just another magnificent gift.
My knees ache & my foot is killing me, so "spiritual" sounds very comforting.
"The soul shall be restored to the body, and the body to the soul; yea, and every limb and joint shall be restored to its body; yea, even a hair of the head shall not be lost; but all things shall be restored to their proper and perfect frame." (Alma 40:23)
So no aches or breaking down, your body will be perfect!
Thank you bishop Barron God bless you 🙏
It's less of a "new" life and more of a return to how life was supposed to be prior to the entering of sin into creation.
No. Itsa new life. You'll see, hopefully.
Not only Christians think like this. This is such a good explanation.
Chinese? I agree christian?
Catholic.
Exactly. And Christian preachers have caused this confusion by teaching it both ways.
Another example of why the fullness of truth can only be found in Jesus’ one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
@@RJJ-yn1zh
Fullness of truth is a cute slogan but it's not true. It's not even biblical. If they had fullness of truth they'd know everything, disagree on nothing and they'd never change their minds.
@@tinman1955:
It would appear that you misinterpret the words "fullness of truth".
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Really? You mean to tell me that "fullness of truth" has another meaning?
Why am I not surprised ❓
@@tinman1955 Our brother there used the word "misinterpret" probably because he missed that you claimed it's not Biblical.
Yet, it's fully biblical. That "slogan" has been used for a really long time, so it may not quite fit in modern translations.
1 Timothy 3:15 (RSV)
"[...] if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth."
How is hoping for a purely spiritual afterlife more platonic than expecting the resurrection of a more perfect body
really appreciate the words about the Dodgers. I have new respect for you, sir. God bless you. Pray for your strength.
Happy Father's day Bishop Barron!!!
😇as a catholic and philosophy grad, this just makes my mind go in circles lol
We live in the light of his Paschal Mystery - the mystery of his Death and Resurrection. “We are an Easter People and Alleluia is our song!” -Pope John Paul II
One other way to think about it is that if the body is the mold of the soul and the resurrected body is the body perfected, then our souls are not just preserved in Heaven merely existing and being remembered, but they continue to be shaped into perfection carrying with it all the good the body has witnessed in life on Earth while the bad has fallen away, and they continue to live, seeing hearing, and doing.
WONDERFUL!!!!
If heaven prefects the body and soul, what is the point of purgatory?
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God bless you
Brilliant. Thank you Bishop Barron.
Very true. We (Christians, and I'd argue non-believers as well) naturally hunger for THINGS to be redeemed, to be made right and perfect. And hallelujah, this is God's plan.
Salve Maria
Peace be with you, Father Barron.
Raised to a higher pitch of perfection. In Jesus' name, I pray. Amen.
He’s actually Bishop 😊
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As an ordained Protestant minister, this is where the Protestant church has erred to the point where we have begun preaching a false gospel.
In 2015, i felt a spiritual joining after I said a prayer asking God to lift a depression without a cause. I found a picture given to me by a man who was my high school friend older brother. My friend died in 2006 and I felt something was wrong and tried to find her to make sure she was okay. She died.
Her older brother died the morning I found his picture in 2015. I have no doubt there is life after death.
This for me is a harder aspect of the Faith to grasp. I'd be curious on some works that specifically deal with Christian afterlife/Resurrection of the Christian body
Personally I don't see why it's wrong or incorrect to be satisfied with the human body dying (which it does) and the spirit joining Heaven. It seems beyond physicality and "logic" which makes sense for the Spirit
@Ser Castamere does he mean when Christ returns, our bodies join our soul, when the new Jerusalem comes to earth? Revelation tells us heaven will ultimately be on earth. That is why Jesus says, "....I'll be with you, even until the end of the AGE, not the end of the World.
@@sercastamere9853 it’s incorrect because Jesus promised that on the last day, we will be raised up in our earthly bodies. We don’t believe that our souls entering heaven when we die is the endgame.
Physics itself is not yet correctly understood. We don't know what consciousness is in relation to objects. We don't have a theory of consciousness.
Scripture and other religious traditions as well makes some startling claims about eschatological events that will heal and set people free not only in the day of salvation but throughout all generations. The gods - broken aspects of consciousness that interdimensionally interact with various circles objective material being - will be reconciled with one another and the laws of decay will be reversed. "All creation longs with eager anticipation for the revelation of the sons of God" (Romans 8:19).
Does the total global quality of our relationships with one another - how we X love God and each other - affect how DNA replicates and how the shortening of telomeres impact the way we grow old and eventually die?
Because that's just one of the sort of startling changes that would need to practically take place for the resurrection of the body to be more than a religious formula. Physics itself would need to change profoundly.
And maybe you think physics is immutable. It's quite possible that this very thought - which is based on experience and assumption, not reason - is an obstacle to the very change that would need to take place. Is "Physics" the god that you believe determines the essence and outcomes of reality?
@@sercastamere9853 thing is this is directly antithetical to Catholic teaching per the video. It seems docetist to me
I wonder what age we will be when we are resurrected. I know that’s not that important but I can’t help but think of it
Good question ...😅
my bet: 33yo
I think the resurrected body is not an earthly body. It's a spiritual body made of light.
Church teaches its your physical body from this Life, made new and glorified
Literally the Bible debunks this several times.
To paraphrase Paul in 1 Corinthians: If there's no physical resurrection, then Jesus didn't resurrect, if Jesus didn't resurrect, we've believed in vain.
I think this was in 1 Cor 15.
Raised to a HigHer pitch of PERFECTION? HOW does that happen. Of course we want it.
Trying to understand that is like trying to find fish in a spoonful of seawater.
We will receive our bodies back. God will unite our bodies with our souls but the body will be glorified. Just like Jesus' body after his resurrection.
@@georgebronte840 yeah I don't think we need to understand that all now. It's dangerous to focus on aliens and planets. Instead we should thank God for all the animals that we can use our disposal. And also aliens are demons. Usually people who think aliens are benevolent are miserable.
Everyones DNA is in Gods mind, he can raise you from a blade of grass.
Thank you for sharing Bishop Barron ❤
@OSULLIVAN101Peace be with you. Truly there is no reason to accept your claim that there are no such things as bishops especially when we know otherwise.
“Preaching what he cannot prove”? What measure of proof can there be that would be sufficient for you?
“What he doesn’t know”? I assure you many know the God he is preaching about, and in the end, all will know Jesus is Lord.
Praying for you to know His loving grace and presence
Plato depicted the idea of the other world by describing this one as a shadow cast on the wall of a cave from the light shining through the opening of it with our backs to the aperture. Life in this world to Plato is only a shadow compared to the life in the other world where we will see things as they actually are.
Raised to a higher pitch... Like the voice of a delectable choir boy
I’m so thankful for Bishop Barron !🙏 Amen
I think, at least for myself, I tend to view the higher pitch of perfection has a platonic ring to it. Even if it were to be an embodied ressuruction, it doesn't have to be our body now, or in a manner that we can understand, does it?
Edit: spell check.
Completely agree.
How is the hope of a purely spiritual afterlife more platonic than expecting the resurrection of a more perfect body.
Another problem:
We know that not only we , homo sapiens, but also our ancestor homo neanderthalensis and even homo heidelbergensis was religious.
They stay in their bodies too just in a "higher pitch of perfection"?
I really hope I can fly around & explore the universe in the resurrection
Dear Bishop Barron what does this "higher pitch of perfection" look like? Please, what do we hope to do with this higher pitch body? Will a higher pitch body help us continue to Praise, Glorify and Serve God?
Christ's risen body is the first example of that. The details are left for our own speculations, as Paul seems to tell us.
Worship is natural to humanity so that's a given. We worship in a quite different sense than the angels and the animals do.
Some hints about it are given in the Resurrection appearances. Jesus seemingly appearing inside houses out of nowhere, looking as healthy as ever, and yet looking so much better that the Apostles often took a second to realize it was the man they spent every day with for years.
Another hint is that Jesus tends to start off with a "Do not be afraid"
Jesus didn't say that during his ministry. Except by implication in the Transfiguration.
That's a phrase that Angels and God do when appearing to someone. It's a "numinous" fear, the experience held when meeting with the supernatural or the presence of extreme holiness.
Can't tell you more than that. The Church Fathers have gone on and on forever about what could be.
May God bless us all with life everlasting. Amen.
The way you think you are not resurrecting anything. This way of thinking makes density
You truly feed my spirit heart mind. Contemplate mystically. The holy spirit in me i seem to digest gives me great spiritial food for my whole being esp in my deepest need for these messages & i share them when i am shown who to share with❤❤❤love from feench rosary praying catholics of Louisiana
Dont matter, the main thought is - we will be with God, nearer to him or however.
I know that soul does escape from the body.
Life everlasting even going to heavan humbles me to gods holy fear. Eternity is scary for me at times even if it is in heavan because we will continue to grow holy. That is humbling but gives me holy fear of God my father. What we cant understand or think differently about our safe place is profound more than i can even begin to put into words. Love you bishol Barron. Thank you for your short simple lowerful message. It leaves me with alot to meditate on. I thank God for your wisdom knowledge understanding from God that you FEED US WITH
64. And immediately his mouth and tongue were opened, and he spoke, praising God.
65. And fear fell upon all their neighbors. And he talked about all these things throughout all the mountains of Judea.
66. Then all who heard them deposited it in their hearts, saying, “Do you see what this child is like?” And the hand of the Lord was with him
(Luke, 1) What did the boy do that made those present marvel at him and talk about him in the mountains of Judea?
Beautiful, thank you Bishop! God Bless you Bishop!
Love you Bishop Baron!!
On this point I agree more with Plato than with Bishop Barron. We Christians can also learn from Gentiles (as Augustine and Aquinas did). Christ said little about the nature of the resurrection. After all, this: "They will be like angels."
Jesus Christ broke the bands of death, and became the first-fruits of the Resurrection. The physical Resurrection of Jesus Christ is a core Christian belief. The promise of a Savior and Redeemer was given to Adam. As by Adam all die, so by Christ all will live again. O'death where is thy sting? The scripture teach many things about the Resurrection. Christ himself the great Exemplar. ❤️
@@firstLast-gb9kr Maybe you did not understand me: Of course, the resurrection is mentioned in a number of places in Scripture, and no one doubts that the resurrection from the dead is an essential element of Christian theology.
I wrote that Christ said next to nothing about the NATURE of the resurrected body - except for little hints like: "It will be very different: you will then be like the angels of God in heaven“ [Matthew 22:30].
There is no contradiction in that with Plato. The remainder is metaphysical speculation...❤
@@Sfenx_Muenchen Christ showed more than he said. Regarding the nature of the Resurrection, read Luke 24:39. See what he said. It wasn't metaphysical speculation. At least for them. 😉
@@firstLast-gb9kr What does Christ's incarnate presence on earth say about His Being in heaven ?
“And THE LORD appeared to him [Abraham] by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat at the door of his tent in the heat of the day. He lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, THREE MEN were standing in front of him.“ [Genesis 18,1-2]
Genesis 18:1 says clearly that it was “the LORD” (Yahweh) who appeared to Abraham. It is the LORD who speaks in verses 13, 20, 26, and 33. Abraham stands “before the LORD” in verse 22. So at least one of the three “men” must have been God Almighty.
So my question again: what does Christ's incarnate presence on earth say about His Being in heaven???
(As for me, I don't want to speculate, much less argue about things that God Himself leaves transcendent - i.e. hidden.) 🤗
@@Sfenx_Muenchen the question was in regards to what Christ Jesus said about the Resurrection of the body. I highlighted a few below.
Luke 24:39 (Jesus) "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: HANDLE me, and SEE; for a spirit has not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
These men became personal witness to the resurrected LORD. In this instance, the Lord Jesus Christ showed them that he was physical. And while they were mystified and wondered. Jesus said more.
Luke 24:41"...Have ye any meat?" Luke 24:43 "And (Jesus) took, and did eat before them."
Additionally, we have the witness of Thomas. See John 20:24-31
And the words of Jesus, ..."Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand and thrust into my side: be not faithless but believing."
...and there is more.
I'll leave the mystery of pre-incarnation for another time.
Who said that the spirit can't inhabit a new body in the Afterlife? Pentacost
Pray for Bishop to have a conversion
What conversion?
What happens when the body is disintegrated or burned, or cremated?
Amen 🙏
Thankyou so much for your content
How is that supposed to happen?
And how shall a body, that in the core of its construction incl all details, made only for a short period of time, be for an eternity?
same thing that happened to Christ's body
@@alonsoACR So you will have a dysfunctional body after life?
A body made for a life in time and space that suddenly doesnt need to breath, to eat, to drink?
A body made for the gravitation on earth and not a permanent life outside of space.
Think about it.
That sounds more like reincarnation. Now you're talking.
Amen! Bishop, you sound very much like Anglican Bishop and theologian N.T. Wright. He has made the very same comments in his sermons.
I wonder of we sometimes mistakenly take the man (Plato) too literal. He wrote under a pseudonym in literary dialogue form with Socrates as the main character who thought him to be sceptical. The carriage ascending up into the sky could also be seen as the ressurection of a soul within a body. Any search for meaning and beauty in life. What do you think?
Eastern mystics have mastered this vibrational elevation the best: bilocation, healing the sick, levitation etc. But some Catholic saints have also gotten there.
Thanks for the reminder of this core belief of our Catholic faith, Bishop Barron.
"~And I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen." 🙏 ✝️
"This is indeed the will of my Father, that all who see the Son and believe in him may have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day.” *-Jesus (Jn 6:40)*
Islamic belief is that on the day of judgment, everyone will be resurrected with their body & soul. After accountability from God, we will either enter heaven or hell.
Is there any proof of Islam written before 500 AD?
"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" doesn't mean our hope is extended beyond this life we live now either.
Jesus never looked for perfection. He looked for all others!
When we die if we go straight to heaven or hell but isn't judgement day the day we are all judged
Isn't birthday the day we are all born?
Yeah true the one day in our lives that we are born
We call it ascending to the 5th dimension. And we're doing it right now.
Ain't it odd tho that demons want to go into bodies but we want to leave ours?
“The resurrection of the body to a higher pitch of perfection”. Depaak Catholicism!
What we hope for may not be true .
What happens to the soul immediately after death until the bodily resurrection?
That’s why many saints have incorrupted bodies.
Tons of them If you did CPR, they would be right as rain!
Ever heard of natural mummification?
I’ve always thought that when we die, the spirit goes immediately to heaven and the perfected body doesn’t join it again until the second coming of Jesus.
That's why my cross is empty. I have a RESURRECTED SAVIOR.
No my hope in the resurrection is that I become unified with God. All else is darkness. And even our language isn't completed enough to describe it correctly
I agree, we are more Greek than we think!
And how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Whatever
You are correct.
Sounds like a good baptist
The audacity of hope...
....a higher pitch od perfection
*leaving Pitch Perfect 3 in divine envy*🎤
The soul does leave the body and the spirit goes to Heaven, hell or purgatory, the body turns to ashes.
At the end of the world, we get our perfected body.
The body is not the most important part.
Anyone who serves the Catholic Church does not have the authority to speak for God!
It is in the Bhagvat" Nainam Chatani shatrani Nainam Dahita pavaka na Chainam kaladapo na sheetita maruta "
Theosis!!! This is the GOAL. SO WHY did the Roman Catholic Church leave Theosis in the 13th century?!??
Good grief..
An adult talking absolute crap, heaven is mythical
"God LIKES matter. He invented it" -- C. S. Lewis
Quick question. Where is this heaven ?
✝️👍🕊Nicely said Bishop Barron
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Indeed! At long last, someone has spoken up about how the false concept of the rapture has unjustly overshadowed the true significance of the resurrection of the deceased, which should rightfully hold a central position in the hopes of evangelicals.
Thank you father
You're right, even Catholics think our souls leave the body, when that's not what the Catholic faith teaches. We are raised Body and Soul!❤ Thank you Bishop Barron!❤
And no religion is 100% spot on. Do you believe that the earth is only 6000 years old?
@@johnnastrom9400 The Catholic church is officially agnostic to the questions of evolution and the age of the Earth. Most Catholic schools teach evolution.
Two other things about the Bible I hope might spur your curiosity.
Much of God's word is in the form of parables, not literal history. Christ tells us so in Matthew 13:13 and Mark 4:33.
The Bible is not a message just for today. It is a message that needed to be understandable to Bronze and Iron age humans, so that they could believe and deliver it to us in modern times.
(And if you are going to ask "why do we have to do anything if God is all powerful", I would say that one of the purposes of mortal life is for us to learn the nature of good and evil. God magically fixing all of our problems would prevent us from learning and growing. And yes its all just and fair because the innocent, the downtrodden and the broken shall receive eternal healing and love in heaven (because through their Earthly suffering they helped fulfill God's purpose of teaching the nature of Good and Evil).)
At death, the soul, body and spirit are separated. This is the sting of death. For the spirit without the body could never receive the fullness of joy.
Jesus Christ broke the bands of death with his Resurrection and Atonement making it possible to return and live in God's presence, and to receive a fullness of joy.
@@JakeDanczyk I understand that. My point was that no one religion knows for sure what happens after death. And a resurrection of the body does not make sense from a philosophical view but reincarnation does make sense.
@@johnnastrom9400how can it not make sense when Jesus himself resurrected. There is nothing like reincarnation.
First thing you have said that I agree with.
I am a Catholic.
Soul = your mind will n emotions ...
Where can I find the full video?
They say their going to heaven😂😂😂😂
Kind of hard to have the body resurrected after a cremation? But then if the body and soul have not been perfected before the particular judgment day, what is the point of purgatory?
So where are we after death and before resurrection?
I've always been confused about the temporal aspects of beatification and heaven
So how do both exist? Serious question
Yes. Kind of different than a monistic, beatific vision. If only we had an essence-energy distinction🤔
I dont care how its going to be, if its from God through Jesus, it will blow your mind!
Illusions illusions … we all proly need to silence the “monkey mind”.
Jesus Christ my blessed Hope. In Him, because of Him I look to live eternally in heaven
No,the soul goes to heaven
and we get a new body in
heaven. I got this message
from God.
AMEN!
Finally a proper biblical view. No more Norman Vincent Peale rubbish.