Plato's Symposium: The Dialectic of Reason, Love, and Wisdom
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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Dr. Michael Sugrue earned his BA at the University of Chicago and PhD at Columbia University.
Rest In Peace Dr. Thank you for your helpful lectures.
I just discovered him a couple weeks ago👍👍 he's great .. The way he breaks things down into simple terms and ideas that I can understand.... Boy I wish I'd have found him years ago... The teaching and philosophical world is one great mind less!
I didn’t even know he was sick??
@@ryanskynet6423 yeah... Sad.... He was a natural born teacher. Well we still have his great lectures.
@@ryanskynet6423Aristophanes... this guy sounds like a real jerk!
@@petersantospago1966😢best ever
KEEP. THEM. COMING.
I second the motion *adjusts monacle* 🧐
@@StarboyXL9 *the askew monocle guild watches on with silent fury*
YES
Keep them coming!
This
I just found out that Dr Sugrue died yesterday. I'm very sad; it's as if I lost a friend.
I only discovered him about six or seven months ago. And it's only been a week or so since I found his recently-produced videos.
I had so much more to learn from him.
It would have been phenomenal to have sat down and had a talk with him (though my knowledge of history and philosophy are vastly inferior to his).
Wow! "...That's why you can still love someone who isn't around anymore. You are in love with their soul.." Sugrue, YOU SINK ME!
"Love is the yearning for eternity;
It is the longing for immortality."
The line.
Such a wonderful quote: "We've made divinities of our vices but we've also created art to justify them."
Such a wonderful quote: "What it is is..."
Man getting these uploads is really like the youtube version of finding out your Saturday morning cartoons are all new as a kid. It's gonna be lamentable when these run out.
I LOVE that analogy! Well done, sir!!!
sugrue still lives and loves
he is going on forever lecturing to the demos
Did the 5 min chat with Dr. Sugrue yesterday. Highly recommend it. Show your appreciation for this awesome professor. TY Dr. Sugrue for the great content.
What did you ask him and what was his answer? favourite quote?
How does one acquire the five minutes with Dr Sugrue?
@@BadGameanhilator I asked him about what advice he had for me as a father raising 2 kids. Asked him about his favorite commentary on Plato book. Also asked him about a few other things. But we only had 5 minutes (although he was kind enough to go over even though I can tell he had more calls waiting). It was a treat to get to speak with him and show my appreciation anyway I can for all that he has made available for us.
@@username1235400 Oh that is kind of him. What advice did he have for raising 2 kids? What was his favorite commentary on Plato book? Also can you remember what else you asked?
@@historicusjoe121 How do we arrange the 5 minute chat with Professor Sugrue?
Thank you, Dr. Sugruefor contribution to the world of knowledge. Rest in peace
Michael Sugrue: one of the greatest orator's of our time. A man who changed people's lives with his passion for philosophy and his dedication to education. 1957-2014, the lifetime of a remarkable man.
One of his best lectures ever, IMHO. Along with the famous and passionate one on Marcus Aurelius, of course.
Nietzsche ones go off for me
0:27 Profound, Poetic, Real, Virtuous.
1:28 Great Art & Philosophy in 1 Work. HARD to do, only Geniuses could produce this.
2:26 Symposium: A Philosophical Drunkeness.
3:23 Athenien aristocrats get together at [Tragedy Prize Winning Author] Agathon's House
7:08 Vice, The Anti-Virtue. Aristophanes, The Anti-Socrates.
8:19 Aristophanes uses comedy to mock Socrates.
9:36 Irony - The Comedian is The Punchline, not the Punch
11:22 Speeches leading to Socrates answer
11:59 Alcebiedes
13:32 The Dialects form a Ring of connection and comprehension.
15:40 Overindulgence is bad for the human body.
17:57 Love explains the Marrow
18:27 Speech 1: Love inspires man to be Virtuous,
20:08 Speech 2: Love is a God, Love helps us reconcile emotion, unifying harmony in the Soul. Connected with Freedom, Autonomy, Virtue.
22:03 Speech 3: Unity of Bodies
23:47 Speech 4: Love is the Origin of Ought
32:18 Speech 5: Love is The Source of Virtue
33:33 Speech 6: Love is not a God, Love is a Spirit which connects. 34:41 Union of Souls in an attempt to yearn for Eternity
37:57 The Ladder of Beauty
• If the marriage lasts into old bodies, Love cared more than for Bodily Beauty. Fall in Love with the Soul, which is Eternal, not the body, which perished in a very short 100 years.
39:48 The Path to Knowledge and Virtue is paved with Love
40:24 Speech 7
41:15 DRINK TILL WERE DRUNK
42:07 Be my lover Socrates
True attractiveness is found in the Soul
43:22 Can’t argue with that.
ATTACK SYRACUSE
…. F
44:51 Drunk Rowdy Noise.You can’t talk reason to these people.
46:20 Art & Literature
Tragic Poet writes Comedy
Comic Poet writes Tragedy
47:35 Organize one’s soul. Upgrade from bronze to Soul Silver & Gold
Omg thanks
Ur a legend tysm
I swear it feels like there’s an infinite amount of these lectures. And I’m reaping all the benefits
The music at the beginning of these lectures always puts me in the mood to learn.
Right! It's the perfect intro. Chamber music, like Mozart.
brandenburg concerto no. 2 in f major, bwv 1047- i.
@Raditya Rasyid Thank you!
"Anytime you fall in love, you'll notice nobody else sees why your lover is as beautiful as you think they are. The reason why is they are looking at the body and you are looking at their soul."
Beautifully put!
Bravo! What a wonderful exposition! We are all the poorer for Prof. Sugrue's passing. Such a scholar, such a great teacher. Too bad the academy is not filled with Prof. Sugrues.
What a wonderful legacy to the world is this channel. I hope it remains for many, many, many years.
Do you mean you like his delivery style, or that you agree with the value judgments he layers within his interpretations of these texts.
People don’t understand the paradigm shift of the Information Age. I am a giraffe and I am learning from the wisest person in the world...how magnificent
It’s incredible. I got into philosophy in 2010. It was a living hell trying to learn the fundamentals before stuff like this started on UA-cam
Sugrue on the Symposium?! The gods have blessed us again!
Dr. Sugrue is one of the few people that I legitimately get sad when I remember is no longer with us.
Rest in Peace 🕊️
A rare gem of a teacher.
Michael Sugrue is that teacher we all wished to have when we were in school. Such a joy! After each course I feel to read the author he speaks of in Complete Works. This is a divine gift. Thank you so much for these lectures!!!
I hear you brother. I only had one professor on his level in 8 years of college. If I had 2 or 3 I would be a very different man, for the better lmao
Bright lights, impersonal, no podium to hide behind, and your ideas, your conversation, your logos, your willingness to engage in/with(?) the logos shines forth. I dig it.
Why are the people in the audience constantly coughing?
Sugrue's lectures made me re read pretty much all the platonic dialogues. Many thanks for these amazing lectures and insights
Do you feel smarter having read them? How has it changed you?
@@Blunttalker am god now
Rest in Peace Michael. I loved all your talks and lectures.
What a nice way this profess imparts his speech, walking around straight forward recalling his lines from memory; the rhetoric of his body language and story telling of history-a genius. I love to listen, in every phrase is...Im learning.
How do you know there is an audience there, and no cue cards? You are viewing from the Platonic cave of the camera angle.
Dr. Sugre, love this one. I listened several times. I love all your philosophy lectures. I hope you are feeling well. Thank you sir. ❤️
RIP Doc
Such an inspiring teacher.
Incredibly. No illustrious intellectual confusing jargon, he’s truly a master of his craft
Ahhh. The symposium and Sugrue. An match made in Heaven
Wow, all afternoon I was listening to the Republic-I and all Plato's Republic lectures again and suddenly this appeared in my UA-cam feed. Just when I wondered why I didn't see this video ever before, I noticed the date! A BIG THANKS TO YOU FOR UPLOADING THESE GEMS
Dr Sugrue, thank you so much for all these lectures and all your time and talent given to this field. I have learned immensely from you and hope you know how much you are appreciated. God bless.
Hats' off to the Dept. of Philosophy at Columbia U. One of the finest in the world.
Amazing speaker. Love these lectures. Thank you for sharing
Yes!!! What a gift to wake up to!!!!
Thank you Dr. Sugrue
I get so excited and happy when a new video comes back to light!!!
To quote an old radio phrase; "And the hits just keep on comin'!" Thank you Dr. Sugrue.
Looking forward to this one! Best regards from us at the RNCM 😊
_Pretty down to earth presentation of Platonism. Not perfect, but nothing in the world is._
_the authentic teacher of platonism, of course, helps awaken what is a desire in the listener to resolve the questions that arise in their mind; God, the paradox!_
He throws in some value judgments in all of his lectures. We know which philosophers he agrees and disagree with because he makes it transparent, and it has the potential to taint his students.
Dr. Sugrue was a great, great teacher. This is a brilliant lecture. He will be missed.
New Sugrue just dropped. Love these lectures - they are an inspiration for my own teaching. The fan based community is amazing too. Thank you so much!
Ooooo one of my favourite Socrates dialogues of all time. This helped me understand a lot about how the Greeks viewed their gods.
Dr. Sugrue, you are the "Sun Speaker". Thank you!
I love these lectures. They don't even feel like lectures.
Dr Sugrue you are so incredibly inspiring. if you are listening from your new life in spirit, thank you from my heart, my soul.
Dr. Sugrue's storytelling is fantastic.
This lecture just blew me away, driving to the essence of Socrates' infinite wisdom, amazingly articulated by the professor.
Thank you, Professor.
What a beautiful lecture. This has tremendous value.
May the Legend Rest In Power!
Read the Symposium recently, looking forward to the good professor's view on the work. Thanks Michael
Absolute gold from beginning to end! Thank you for sharing your incredible knowledge with the world.
Off topic question for Dr Sugrue, what was it like to study with Mircea Eliade at the University of Chicago? What was the most important thing you learned from him?
woah, I didn't know that! I'm from Romania and I love Eliade and Cioran. It would be so awesome so hear Michael Sugrue talk about Eliade in a Q&a. One of my favourite teachers was studying with one of my favourite authors! Thank you for your question, Chris!
@@BogdanLiviu7 Pretty sure he mentioned it in a podcast seminar, not sure which one
@@RNCM_Philosophy if you remember please let me know (I ll rewatch them all 😁)
Love this lecture, one of Sugrue's best!
Another fantastic lecture. Michael Sugrue is brilliant. God bless him.
Very good lecture about my favorite work of literature. Prof. S’s take on Aristophanes as playing the villain of the piece is fascinating.
So many insights and such infectious enthusiasm. Thanks so much!
You have to talk about this in your -unplugged talks - Dude - this is Gold right here.
First love - what a change it makes in a lad! What a magnificent secret it is that he carries about with him! The tender passion gushes instinctively out of a man’s heart. He loves as a bird sings or a rose blooms, from nature.
- Stanley Kubrick, Barry Lyndon
We are deeply Gratitude and Thankful for your lectures.
Your lectures are gifts. Thank you so much, Professor Sugrue.
Contrast the element of storytelling that Michael does compared to a dry academic format. I actually retain this information because it’s interesting!
This is so wonderful, thank you so much for your contribution to society.
Thank You 🕊️☮️
I read this several months ago, as well as reading The Clouds, The Republic, Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, etc., and I could not have a more divergent interpretation. To me it feels as if this work represents the polyphony of love and art, each one brings with them some aspect of love that cannot be suppressed or remade, and Plato's attempt to impress one meaning on it is in a way upstaged by Alcibiades cry of raw emotion, connexion, physicality, belonging, need, and devotion. Neither he, nor Aristophanes, who discusses the beautiful doctrine of the other half, can be conclusively defeated. Their love, is also love, too - they are reflections of the complex and beautiful crystal of human harmony.
EDIT: Unfortunately, it seems like Dr. Michael Sugrue recently passed away, may he rest in peace. I mean no disrespect in my comment, merely noting I have a very different interpretation than he seems to have.
My ears got through this like champs!
106K subscribers! Awesome. I hope it keeps growing.
I'm due to teach a seminar on writing about love; this will be an excellent resource. God bless.
Finally, Symposium! ❤️
Thank you ad infinitum for uploading your lectures. I saw your lecture on Marcus Aurelius and fell in love. Thanks for adding more!
This has gotta be the best one yet. You can really see the Platonist in him in this one.
This was the first work of Plato’s I was introduced to back in college and when I say it changed my life I mean it
Please , put year of lecture too . Thank you for your hard work and shared knowledge 🗽🗽🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍
great content, always a pleasure to listen to him
Thanks for another wonderful lecture.
Good quote at 35:30
“Love is the yearning for eternity”
i was waiting for this one for a long time, so glad I could hear it again. Merry Christmas
just stumbled on this after reading the text my God what a wonderful lecture
And now my day is better.
Excellent. Just excellent. Thank you for enlightening us professor!
Dear Teacher Michael, Great respect. Yet, forget about love, they talk about ΕΡΩΣ.(and the name is Αγάθων, not Άγαθων but never mind that) You inspire and move ! A Greek friend,
Demetrios.
Thanks Prof. Dr. Sugrue for all these interesting, mind blowing and fantastic lectures. I have discovered your lectures before s year, since then I have watched all of them, and recommended some of my best friends to watch. We agreed all of us, that you are one of the most amazing, intelligent and articulate Professors of the world.
Here I have a very personal question to you . Can you tell us how could you read all these works of these pioneering Philosophers? What had motivated to you to learn and teach Philosophy?
Please tell us about you and your biography... bcs i find it very interesting and inspiring ...
Love is the longing for eternity.
thank you for letting me see this
I love these so much!
The greates gem. Rest In peace dear.
Thank you for uploading this
Thank you 🙏🏼
I love you so damn much. 😊 I’m serious. You are an amazing teacher
17:35 "encomia" is the spelling that the subtitles gives. Sounds like a standard speech of praise. Gotta respect that perspective
Hello Dr. Sugrue. Your lectures have been helpful and insightful with regards to understanding the various major themes of western philosophy. Having listened to most of them 2-3 time, are there any other lecturers you could recommend that show equal enthusiasm and unbiased opinions regarding similar topics? Ty in advance.
wonderful, makes me want to return to university
They don't make them like Dr. Sugrue anymore
I LOVVVEEEEE SUGRUE
When one moves through the/a text of the Symposium, without/prior to this vast literary criticism, it is obvious to what degree conjecture has (perhaps unavoidably) colored our understanding of Plato's work... exploration before conjecture(IMO) is of much greater efficacy.
Really good
The simposium
“The symposium isn’t really over and there’s still a seat at it for you”
25:57 "Aristophanes gives us a wonderful myth, and its just like poets, when they don't know what they're talking about, to think of some myth that's dangerous to themselves, and dangerous to others. It indicates their complete lack of understanding of the nature of philosophy and virtue and goodness."
The Good Doctor says this as an aside, like it's a personal thought just as likely to be tossed away and kept personal, but it's such a poetic statement in and of itself. Dare I say the potential dialogue between Dr. Sugrue & Lex Fridman on the topic of philosophy & love in some parallel universe would be worthy of documentation.
Thank you sir