I realize now the curriculum matters. For some schools it can be more toward business with the finance classes and some schools will lean toward more technical and more than just Visual Basic. For me it seems like a very high level degree and you’re right that unless you know a direction you want to go in and spend time outside of coursework to learn more, you can get to the end and not know what job you can even do. I’m finishing ina year and started feeling this way about CIS and am glad I added on a concentration in information security. Forensics is a part of that concentration but my CIS major doesn’t have the technical courses to match up to being able to pursue that. I guess it’s a degree to expose students to many things.
Idk if maybe you didn’t watch the video all the way or somethin but they’re talking about what different schools offer, not what you should take away from a given school. In this case the man said he felt as though his degree was too surface level and didn’t offer him enough credentials on its own to apply to any particular jobs, whereas the girl said she specifically chose a school that would offer her courses in things that would help further her career after college.
This was a very timely video, I'm actually getting ready to pursue this degree and I compared the curriculum from three different schools. I'm not trying to be funny but doesn't everyone look at the curriculum of their degree before they enroll? Who just spends that type of money and doesn't look at what they are going to be learning?
Interesting video I’m a senior at my polytechnic school in California studying a business degree concentration in CIS it is rather frustrating taking extra business classes I don’t need relating to my cis field,but ultimately find my university experience great and might help be purse a job in data analysis after graduation. What I find rather sad is most students don’t take advantage of cis workshops that are available and FREE that gives you hands on leaning with several programs. I’d say for any university student in any CIS field take advantage of these free workshops looks good in your resume and ultimately makes yourself more valuable to employers
@@DigitalKurisu yeah I go to cpp, and I haven’t yet applied for an internships I’m waiting till my last official educational year 2-3 classes per semester, since I do as well have a full time job that takes up most of my time
Hi I'm also about to go to a polytechnic school in Cali and taking CIS too. Can you tell me whats it like? is it more business or more computer, or is it like computer science or a mix of all? How can you improve yourself better?
I'm thinking about taking my associates in CIS and the courses are as follows: Principles of accounting Web development Client-side development Server-side development Intro to business fundamentals Voice and diction: business and professional speech Intro to computer fundamentals and programming Microcomputer applications Microcomputer spreadsheet applications Java Programming Linux operating system web programming with python Internship Wanted to know if this seems like a good set of courses. it seems pretty focused in web development with 4 of the 7 computer science courses teaching web dev.
CIS majors at my college take Programming 1 and 2, Data structures and Algorithms 1 and 2, Computer Architecture, data base management, discrete structures, operating system, software design 1 and 2 and then 3 math and business classes
I just graduated and he is speaking FACTSSSSS😂 I feel like I don’t know anything but I actually do it’s wired ! At the moment I am getting my COMPTIA A+ and probably network and then learn programming on my own
Getting into IT seems difficult. Some say you need a degree . Some say just go for certifications. I am dead ass lost at this point. I was about to sign up for MIT cybersecurity program now I’m like🤔🤔🤔.
@@TechTualChatter that’s what I’ve been doing researching . I’m just trying to figure out the best way to go. But it all seems a bit confusing at times.
Well if you need some more help book a consultation with me calendly.com/techtuaulconsulting/consultation or you can visit my website and grab my breakinginto cybersecurity ebook
I'm interested in an associates in cyber security or cis to start my undergrad career but none come with certs and idk how to gain the experience without getting the certs if I only have the degree
Research Research research There are a couple of entry level certs that you can get to help you in your journey. I would suggest checking out my ebook on some guidance with breaking into cybersecurity
@@TechTualChatter is your ebook in the description or about section? I've checked out wgu as well but I was advised that it isn't the best choice for someone who is entry level or none IT background such as myself.
I go to a private college in ny for CIS BS These are some my following courses: Intro to python Intro to java Visual basic Database management systems Computer networking Intro to cybersecurity Object structures algorithms Linux administration Website administration and security Network security Ethical hacking and pentest Forensic System analysis and design Before I transfered into the this college from CC I checked out the curriculum I thought it was solid Im working on certification before I graduate. But eventually i wanna go into cloud security later on.
I tell recruiter thatd im in college but it seems like its not enough so i just home lab it up. Ive learned active directory stuff and some linux(kali,ubuntu) but ima add a certification with it starting with network+ and security+ then move to the cloud hopefully in the future
@@ThapeloMoreti I do not regret it, I believe it is one of the most versatile degrees on the market. Right after I graduated I got a job at a data center, and now I am a government contractor. My degree has give me an advantage, stepping into the profession world.
im a 17 year old in hs and about to study cis,due to my income would it be wise to go to a 2 year collge then transfer to a university for bachelors or do a 4 year community college for my bachelors?
I'm also 17 and recently applied for these programs, personally I think it'd be better to start at college then transfer/graduate from university because at least from what I've heard (and is kinda self-explanatory), a university degree would look better to employers over say community college. But I don't think you'd be at a serious disadvantage because at the end of the day it depends on your actual knowledge/skills. I've also been debating on whether or not it makes much of a difference though lol
yes dude(i am 19). going to community college first will be the wisest thing you can do if you are from a low income family. it’ll save you tons of fucking money dude. one thing i would advise, take the initiative to schedule appointments with your counselors to make sure you’re doing everything you need to do to transfer.
What did you take away from this video?
The current school system isn’t bad, it just needs some restructuring to help optimize what kids are learning!
They don’t want to reorganize 😅😅
I realize now the curriculum matters. For some schools it can be more toward business with the finance classes and some schools will lean toward more technical and more than just Visual Basic. For me it seems like a very high level degree and you’re right that unless you know a direction you want to go in and spend time outside of coursework to learn more, you can get to the end and not know what job you can even do. I’m finishing ina year and started feeling this way about CIS and am glad I added on a concentration in information security. Forensics is a part of that concentration but my CIS major doesn’t have the technical courses to match up to being able to pursue that. I guess it’s a degree to expose students to many things.
@@Jessminttea yep that’s pretty much what it does but it doesn’t help guide you into any certain path unfortunately
It seems things need to be streamlined
The college that you go to doesn’t matter. It’s really just about showing the skills you bring to the table.
Idk if maybe you didn’t watch the video all the way or somethin but they’re talking about what different schools offer, not what you should take away from a given school. In this case the man said he felt as though his degree was too surface level and didn’t offer him enough credentials on its own to apply to any particular jobs, whereas the girl said she specifically chose a school that would offer her courses in things that would help further her career after college.
This was a very timely video, I'm actually getting ready to pursue this degree and I compared the curriculum from three different schools. I'm not trying to be funny but doesn't everyone look at the curriculum of their degree before they enroll? Who just spends that type of money and doesn't look at what they are going to be learning?
Yeah we look at the curriculum but it should be compared to jon roles you want to land. That's the real way to see if it's worth it
Interesting video I’m a senior at my polytechnic school in California studying a business degree concentration in CIS it is rather frustrating taking extra business classes I don’t need relating to my cis field,but ultimately find my university experience great and might help be purse a job in data analysis after graduation. What I find rather sad is most students don’t take advantage of cis workshops that are available and FREE that gives you hands on leaning with several programs. I’d say for any university student in any CIS field take advantage of these free workshops looks good in your resume and ultimately makes yourself more valuable to employers
Have you gotten any internships?
Also you go to cpp?
@@DigitalKurisu yeah I go to cpp, and I haven’t yet applied for an internships I’m waiting till my last official educational year 2-3 classes per semester, since I do as well have a full time job that takes up most of my time
@@johnquezada2564 Hey did you transfer to Cpp after 2 years of college or no? I have some questions I would like to ask you
Hi I'm also about to go to a polytechnic school in Cali and taking CIS too. Can you tell me whats it like? is it more business or more computer, or is it like computer science or a mix of all? How can you improve yourself better?
I'm thinking about taking my associates in CIS and the courses are as follows:
Principles of accounting
Web development
Client-side development
Server-side development
Intro to business fundamentals
Voice and diction: business and professional speech
Intro to computer fundamentals and programming
Microcomputer applications
Microcomputer spreadsheet applications
Java Programming
Linux operating system
web programming with python
Internship
Wanted to know if this seems like a good set of courses. it seems pretty focused in web development with 4 of the 7 computer science courses teaching web dev.
I wanna get into tech. Certifications aren't enough anymore to get hired. I'm taking CIS classes.
Learn the skills you need for the job you want too
Same but going going for general studies idk if I should go for CIS
CIS majors at my college take Programming 1 and 2, Data structures and Algorithms 1 and 2, Computer Architecture, data base management, discrete structures, operating system, software design 1 and 2 and then 3 math and business classes
Yup too much stuff that doesn’t really help zone in on any role
@@TechTualChatter How come, you can still be a software engineer
which College is it bro??
@@pumpkinut5314Same thing I was going to ask.
Going to learn most things on the job
I just graduated and he is speaking FACTSSSSS😂 I feel like I don’t know anything but I actually do it’s wired !
At the moment I am getting my COMPTIA A+ and probably network and then learn programming on my own
I made a twitter thread about this. Please skip the a+ unless you want to work in support
@@TechTualChatter what job is reasonable for me ?
@@TechTualChatter I just thought that’s the only thing left for cis major, IT
Getting into IT seems difficult. Some say you need a degree . Some say just go for certifications. I am dead ass lost at this point. I was about to sign up for MIT cybersecurity program now I’m like🤔🤔🤔.
I would just say do your research before you sign up for anything to make sure it’ll get you the best outcome for your efforts
@@TechTualChatter that’s what I’ve been doing researching . I’m just trying to figure out the best way to go. But it all seems a bit confusing at times.
Well if you need some more help book a consultation with me calendly.com/techtuaulconsulting/consultation or you can visit my website and grab my breakinginto cybersecurity ebook
@@TechTualChatter so, is cis bad course to take
@@sandraanderson1780 no it’s not it’s just eat if you review to curriculumn
Do you guys think I will be able to land a good paying tech job with an Associate's Degree and 2.5 years of helpdesk ?
@@mr.alldaylong9879 yes just need a strategy
what a small world, i grew up in NE Louisiana and im researching online colleges and i end up on your page. i live in Colorado now but i do miss home.
Very very small world.
You from Monroe area?
@@TechTualChatter yes sir!
I’m from Monroe! Looking into CIS vs CS degree! Living near the Frisco, Tx area now
@@AshtonDeVaughn WILD!
doing a CIS degree, Im from Ruston!
I'm interested in an associates in cyber security or cis to start my undergrad career but none come with certs and idk how to gain the experience without getting the certs if I only have the degree
Research
Research research
There are a couple of entry level certs that you can get to help you in your journey. I would suggest checking out my ebook on some guidance with breaking into cybersecurity
@@TechTualChatter is your ebook in the description or about section? I've checked out wgu as well but I was advised that it isn't the best choice for someone who is entry level or none IT background such as myself.
@@isiah8804 yes it’s in the description and I disagree wgu is a great choice
@@TechTualChatter thanks ! I'll check it out now
I go to a private college in ny for CIS BS
These are some my following courses:
Intro to python
Intro to java
Visual basic
Database management systems
Computer networking
Intro to cybersecurity
Object structures algorithms
Linux administration
Website administration and security
Network security
Ethical hacking and pentest
Forensic
System analysis and design
Before I transfered into the this college from CC I checked out the curriculum I thought it was solid
Im working on certification before I graduate. But eventually i wanna go into cloud security later on.
I think that curriculum looks solid
I tell recruiter thatd im in college but it seems like its not enough so i just home lab it up. Ive learned active directory stuff and some linux(kali,ubuntu) but ima add a certification with it starting with network+ and security+ then move to the cloud hopefully in the future
@@TorLA575 start selling yourself on LinkedIn
@@TechTualChatter do you have any videos on that ?
@@TorLA575 yeah kind of high level but I have about two of them. I touch it on it more in my ebook
awesome video, resourceful and great insight. I am graduating with a Information systems degree in May!
Congrats
According to your opinion,how was it CIS?
@@ThapeloMoreti I do not regret it, I believe it is one of the most versatile degrees on the market. Right after I graduated I got a job at a data center, and now I am a government contractor. My degree has give me an advantage, stepping into the profession world.
Is the math serious?
No it’s not
im a 17 year old in hs and about to study cis,due to my income would it be wise to go to a 2 year collge then transfer to a university for bachelors or do a 4 year community college for my bachelors?
I'm also 17 and recently applied for these programs, personally I think it'd be better to start at college then transfer/graduate from university because at least from what I've heard (and is kinda self-explanatory), a university degree would look better to employers over say community college. But I don't think you'd be at a serious disadvantage because at the end of the day it depends on your actual knowledge/skills. I've also been debating on whether or not it makes much of a difference though lol
i only think they care about where you get your bachelors from ,they dont care if you transfered or not @@keemerthanever1942
yes dude(i am 19). going to community college first will be the wisest thing you can do if you are from a low income family. it’ll save you tons of fucking money dude. one thing i would advise, take the initiative to schedule appointments with your counselors to make sure you’re doing everything you need to do to transfer.
I graduate Summer 2024😅
Start looking for internships or full time roles now
@@TechTualChatter Thanks