Can Diesel Work In An Audi S Car? The New S4 TDI, Driven

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • This is the new Audi S4. In Europe, the wonderful petrol engines have been replaced with efficient diesels in the quest for ever lower CO2 figures. However, with huge torque reserves at its disposal, this brand new engine promises some excitement - so does it deliver?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 274

  • @christopherj8280
    @christopherj8280 3 роки тому +8

    I had a rental and after 60 odd miles i got in some twistys and spanked it. I was very impressed. When i pulled into the petrol station and opened the flap to fill her up i had to look twice at the writing on the cap saying Diesel. My goodness she flies.

  • @seanek9
    @seanek9 4 роки тому +34

    In fairness this makes perfect sense. On my daily commute up and down the M4 the roads are awash with Audi S#s and BMW M#s so clearly there’s an actual market for performance cars that just go up and down motorways. They may as well be diesels!

    • @jamesward7425
      @jamesward7425 4 роки тому

      seanek9 good point

    • @funitoo
      @funitoo 4 роки тому

      I like my diesel 3 series. Even more so after I had it tuned.

    • @dash3dot
      @dash3dot 4 роки тому +5

      There is absolutely ZERO market and need for a performance cars in a country with medieval roads and road regulations with ridiculous speed limits - England.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  4 роки тому +11

      No need is not the same as no market

  • @ThexMJT
    @ThexMJT 4 роки тому +61

    Still understand why audi it it, its a cross continent businessman's car. Autobahn ship, 155mph with decent mpg. If you want a sport get an RS. Big powerful diesels are great.

    • @Tom.G.Wright
      @Tom.G.Wright 4 роки тому +4

      Matt JT precisely! The new Turbo petrols never get their claimed mpg and these cars are mainly used for mile crunching. Love this new diesel S4

    • @ThexMJT
      @ThexMJT 4 роки тому +3

      @@Tom.G.Wright Its exactly what they are built for, people with money but they need to daily the car due to work commitments, but don't want to be getting 20mpg while pounding long instead wanting 40+mpg while doing so. Hopefully Audi keep the petrols in the smaller class cars as they are more hot hatch than businessman's saloon

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 4 роки тому +1

      an rs is still not really a sportscar. but faster and at least revs and doesnt have fake sound.

    • @ThexMJT
      @ThexMJT 4 роки тому +1

      @@99Lezard99 Depends on the car TTRS is a sports car, the rest are super saloons and super hatches

    • @randallwesson9577
      @randallwesson9577 3 роки тому

      i realize it is pretty off topic but do anyone know of a good place to watch new movies online?

  • @jedw
    @jedw 4 роки тому +20

    Very strange that Audi would choose to do this just as diesels are suffering a lot of criticism over emissions, and talk of them being banned in urban areas! Sounds good.. from the BACK!

    • @yammy1000
      @yammy1000 4 роки тому +1

      Hybrid tho...

    • @zaink7037
      @zaink7037 4 роки тому +2

      @Jack njones I feel audi may have done this as they project more sales as most sales of cars are diesel. Probably know people want a fast car but obtaining good mpg figures

    • @zaink7037
      @zaink7037 4 роки тому +1

      Jedw yeah London is kind of one of them with the ULEZ charge and planned expansion of it in 2021 to the whole city. The rich man wouldn't have to worry as they can afford to pay £12.50 a day or afford a newer diesel which is not compliant to the charge 😑.

    • @stephandolby
      @stephandolby 4 роки тому +4

      Diesels, when implemented correctly (and that means all the relevant emissions handling tech), can be exceptionally clean. Unfortunately, the ship has well and truly sailed on this one.

    • @Xilver_
      @Xilver_ 3 роки тому +4

      @@zaink7037 Yes but diesels from 2015 onwards are ulez exempt, unless they make a new rule about these newer diesels.

  • @pedrowarior
    @pedrowarior 4 роки тому +38

    Doesn’t sound half bad for a diesel lump, but i wouldn’t call it an s

    • @KeithJD
      @KeithJD 4 роки тому +4

      Pedro Guerreiro it’s most likely playing the sound of a petrol engine inside and outside.

    • @gigel99324
      @gigel99324 4 роки тому +2

      @Jack njones get a proper tractor it'll blow your mind with its torque

    • @MRFUCKOFF202
      @MRFUCKOFF202 4 роки тому

      They added fake interior and exterior noises to the SQ7 so likely noise is as fake as the exhausts

    • @milinddixit6583
      @milinddixit6583 4 роки тому

      Fake sound inside, and underneath the car behind the exhausts is a sound generator that turns on when the car is in its sport mode.

    • @TorpedoStudios
      @TorpedoStudios 4 роки тому +1

      Pedro Guerreiro have you ever heard the 3.0 tdi straight piped

  • @alouisschafer7212
    @alouisschafer7212 3 роки тому +6

    Volkswagens 3.0 V6 Diesel just hits the spot.
    Great engine overall.
    Has loads of potential (300+ hp easy with a new turbo, exaust and bigger injectors) and this thing can take a beating. The internals can take 400hp reliably as proven by tuners and long flat out Autobahn runs are no problmen at all. There is a reason they put this engine in Vehicles like the Amarok Pickup.

  • @DEEKNG
    @DEEKNG 4 роки тому +4

    Currently have the 2016 A7 biturbo V6 and I love it 😎

  • @smallk6453
    @smallk6453 4 роки тому +6

    Like the Sq7, once all the turbos are going, the car goes instantly fast.

  • @kingjulian7345
    @kingjulian7345 4 роки тому +25

    The V6 TDI is the most efficient and durable engine ever made... Change my mind

    • @ActionDriveFusion
      @ActionDriveFusion 4 роки тому

      yep I se a6 3.0Tdi all the time

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 4 роки тому +1

      As someone who drives a Lexus with a 2GR that would probably never break even if I didn't service it (the 1GR 4.0 variant is used in the Hilux of course) that also gets better real world MPG than anyone seems to be claiming from the new S6/S4 but puts out the same power I'm struggling to see where you got that idea. It's a good engine absolutely, but it's far from being either the most efficient or durable. I love the 2GR (also in the Evora) but wouldn't claim that's the most efficient by a long way either, although it's certainly got a good claim for most durable.

    • @dash3dot
      @dash3dot 4 роки тому +4

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 ( c ) EVERY car mechanic on the planet that have built a mansion of out 3.0 TDI engine Audi drivers money

    • @kingjulian7345
      @kingjulian7345 4 роки тому +5

      @@dash3dot my friend drove his 450K KM and the engine didnt even care

    • @kingjulian7345
      @kingjulian7345 4 роки тому

      @@dash3dot ofc there are other very good and durable engines out there but from what i drove and all of my friends are saying, we all agree. sure hard to work on but you cant deny that it isnt efficient. 5L on 100KM is pretty awesome. sound is lovely too, just no sportive sound but a very calm powerful diesel sound

  • @stevenjr6582
    @stevenjr6582 4 роки тому +8

    Name another car that has 347hp,700nm ,8 spd,4.8s to 60 and manage 6.2l/100km combined cycle!

  • @Rosscraw
    @Rosscraw 4 роки тому +38

    A diesel S4 is called a S-line ✌️

    • @Rascularvideos
      @Rascularvideos 4 роки тому

      The new S4 is diesel only.

    • @Rascularvideos
      @Rascularvideos 4 роки тому

      Unintended Consequences Fair point.

    • @sukhrajchhokar
      @sukhrajchhokar 4 роки тому +1

      Agree...if you want civilised and economical but like the s you get a s line..this is ridiculous what they have done

    • @matteiasm.3618
      @matteiasm.3618 4 роки тому

      @@sukhrajchhokar the fucj are you guys actually talking about? the strongest engine the a4 has ever had was the 272hp one in the newest models, this one is around 350hp - this is a huge step up, especially with upgrade breaks, upgrade suspension and so on. the s4 was never a car with an s-line bodykit and a normal a4 engine - personally, its a perfect car for people who dailydrive a shitload KM/miles like I do.

    • @sukhrajchhokar
      @sukhrajchhokar 4 роки тому

      @@matteiasm.3618 do you even know your cars...the b9 alone S4 was 354bhp. Point is if you want a car for high miles you don't get a S4 you get a A4 S-line. Go learnt the difference.

  • @freshjive818
    @freshjive818 4 роки тому +4

    For all the hate it's getting as a diesel you would probably be very surprised by it's performance, even though I'm more of a petrol blooded shouty engine type of guy like most of us, I have to say there is something oddly satisfying about a seriously high torque diesel engine. This is a perfect long distance cruiser 👍 as long as the RS isn't diesel then It'll all be okay 👌

    • @andrewpattie358
      @andrewpattie358 4 роки тому

      Hi don't want to get in a sagging mach here... for me it's not the performance as it is bloody quick it's the romantic of the hole thing i just don't c the point in it my self if u want great mpg get the 2l tdi as is good enough when ur cruising but its when ur on it its not got the soundtrack and that is the difference. that is what makes us car guys 😄 this is my first reply to a comment have a good day

    • @freshjive818
      @freshjive818 4 роки тому

      @@andrewpattie358 I understand people's frustration we'd all rather a big shouty V8 but with the price of fuel nowadays this isn't a bad option or move by audi and it's the RS models that were Really all concerned about and if your looking for that romantic connection with a car and it's engine I wouldn't really consider any S car if that's what your looking for, especially seeing what else is out there for the same money, however as a well built long distance cruiser with a decent amount of power then they are perfect.

  • @stephenoverstreet9898
    @stephenoverstreet9898 4 роки тому +5

    What a truly excellent review. Thank you James!

  • @Birmingham_racing
    @Birmingham_racing 4 роки тому +2

    The idea of a s4 diesel sounds weird to me but when being a passenger in a 2017 s4 I found it soo civilised I remember thinking it might as well be a diesel

  • @oliverkaram2486
    @oliverkaram2486 4 роки тому +1

    Nice to see you in Cirencester enjoying the Cotswolds!!

  • @DjFrankybe
    @DjFrankybe 4 роки тому +1

    Nice sound for a Europe diesel !

  • @lifesucks5322
    @lifesucks5322 3 роки тому +1

    this to me seems like the perfect daily

  • @1970boggy
    @1970boggy 4 роки тому +11

    LOL!
    48k 😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂
    I’d struggle to pay 38k!!!!!

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc 4 роки тому +4

      My BMW 335d was well over 50k new, and that was 7 years ago. Guess some people like fast diesels

  • @jaychen5013
    @jaychen5013 Рік тому +1

    Audi, nickel and dime for every little thing even when you go full S.

  • @ApothecaryTerry
    @ApothecaryTerry 4 роки тому +2

    Sorry if I'm being thick here, but as someone who drives a GS450h I'm struggling to see how this is worth £60k? For £20k you can get a mint Japanese hybrid which has the same power, lower CO2/better economy, a comfier ride, loads of kit (Audi got moisturising aircon?), infinitely better reliability, no fake exhausts and doesn't understeer. Audi has better infotainment but that's about it (possibly more familiar pedal feel). The GS also has the same 2GR you get in an Evora so clearly wins on sound. Wouldn't mind a drag race either- Audi has quattro and launch but the GS is only 0.2 slower to 60 so past that I'd imagine it gets interesting.
    Totally understand people not wanting a GS, but surely it would take a moron to buy the S4? Even a diesel lover is much better off in a 435d xDrive, worse interior but beats this in every other way.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 4 роки тому

      ​@Unintended Consequences I've done many miles in Audis but not S or RS models sadly. Never bought one due to reliability and comfort (not bad, just not Lexus). I am generally a fan- still considering tuning the heck out of an S1, but this car just seems to have so many questionable choices. Having a new S4 (and S6) only just match a 2005 hybrid for performance and lose out on economy makes it really hard to understand why they didn't go petrol hybrid- the motors in the e-tron (188ps) are nearly as powerful as the one in the GS (200ps) and they can build a petrol engine (RS3...mmm) so they've got the tech. Fake exhausts are inexcusable, there's just no need. Understeer is still there but most people won't notice- I was just making the list comically long with nitpicking points by then!
      Talking of comically long, I suck at being concise- I'll stop now ☺

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 4 роки тому

      @Unintended Consequences ive never seen an audi oversteer on its own unless its been flicked like crazy or its been poweroversteered on slippy surfaces. or its an r8 of course. but please show me an audi on a racetrack that oversteers before it understeers when loosing grip. im from germany and im regularly on the nürburgring. never seen that. in fact you really see not much audis there at all. bmws and porsches are everwhere tho. if that doesnt say enough about most audis...

  • @imihussain1781
    @imihussain1781 4 роки тому

    Oh dear oh dear at 0:45-0:47 that typical diesel noise has not been eliminated sounds horrible...the noise from the back end sounds decent however....not with buying brand new, maybe something to consider in 5 years time when used....another great review and reviewers on UA-cam...keep up the hard work.

  • @rickc2102
    @rickc2102 4 роки тому +1

    Vorsprung is an interesting word. I believe literally it means "to take the lead in a race," but my brain keeps thinking, "and we've got all this kit here, if you want to schpring vor it..."

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 4 роки тому

      vorsprung means literally ahead. has not neccessarily something to with racing.

  • @ConquerDriving
    @ConquerDriving 4 роки тому +1

    How much?! 60,000 Japanese ¥ yen maybe but that can't be 60,000 sterling.

  • @julianevans9548
    @julianevans9548 4 роки тому +2

    Carbon fibre interior trim. Chintzy. If the car's not made of carbon fibre don't slap it on the inside.
    And what's with lighting up the inside of your car with gaudy colours?

  • @tipp55
    @tipp55 4 роки тому

    Very enjoyable and insightful review. Agreed about that awful screen and the demise of the MMI wheel. I sincerely hope Audi will take the widespread criticism on board and revert to a better solution in the next A4/5 models.

  • @the.wanginator
    @the.wanginator 4 роки тому +1

    Wish we could have this one in the states

  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 4 роки тому +1

    Ive hit the thumbs up as usual because of the presenter and content but I am tired of hearing people say similar things about performance ie here we are told its around 350bhp with around 500lbft and does it "go"? Since when did 350bhp and 500lbft ever be slow thats my beef. Its high power high torque of course its going to get down the road quickly so on this point I get really annoyed when theres this element of apparent surprise when the numbers are so big you couldnt possibly think its going to be slow.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  4 роки тому +1

      The Aston isnt a light car, and they are relatively light on torque in comparison to a lot of modern stuff. I have driven cars with big numbers which dont shift - eg. A lot of American cars

  • @outforaripper
    @outforaripper 4 роки тому +3

    sweet outro dawg!

  • @CalSticks
    @CalSticks 4 роки тому +1

    Weirdest thing for me is the trim levels/options rather than the fuel type. Always thought S4s were just S4s.

  • @daveallsopp320
    @daveallsopp320 4 роки тому +1

    Yes it can, it worked very very well in the first generation SQ5 and that wasn’t a hybrid either😆😆😆😆

  • @owenh1713
    @owenh1713 4 роки тому +1

    Big vent... "Kinda cool".. good one :-)
    I'm less of a fan of the engine than you are..In front, it sounds like rattling a can of marbles.. at the back..aaaah, there's that S4 burble. I own its predecessor, a 2017 S4 and the creamy burble of the exhaust is a never-boring soundtrack. Not so sure I would buy the diesel version though.. But, that said, thanks again for a great review. Down to earth and honest (despite the fancy Audi pen) Thanks, I'm looking forward to the next one.

  • @joedonnelly387
    @joedonnelly387 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic review!

  • @Funscout
    @Funscout 4 роки тому

    Surely the logical decision is to buy a used, low mileage B9 S4 with the stonking Porsche derived petrol (hot) V6 PETROL. Virtually the same but retaining dials and switches for the controls... It sounds awesome too. *may be a biased view:)

  • @mickdebrou9235
    @mickdebrou9235 4 роки тому

    Mega Audi fan thanks so much, more Audi content please!

  • @MrRobotRooster
    @MrRobotRooster 11 місяців тому

    I have a rare A4 50 TDI Quattro. It’s a B9.5 and a precursor to this car. Let me know if you want to do a video on it. I also have a A6 C6.5 2.0 TDI 170 BHP 6MT

  • @cestrian5294
    @cestrian5294 4 роки тому

    You can tell it’s an Audi by they way he’s bouncing about. You can’t beat a torque monster.

  • @giovannigallo8429
    @giovannigallo8429 4 роки тому

    The current RS4 engine is a great one. Those that have had experienced it longer term will agree..

  • @maxthefacts
    @maxthefacts 4 роки тому

    This Diesel engine makes no sense in the S6 considering its not much of a "S" type gain over the standard top diesel engined versions. It does make sense in the S4 though as its a smaller platform and was rare in 3 litre spec previously so the engine can be seen as a definite upgrade. Love to see it in an Avant version. 40+ mpg is more than achievable based on performance and weight characteristics. The US are getting petrol versions of the S Models but not the Diesels.

  • @allanlai_
    @allanlai_ 4 роки тому

    Can this be an enthusiast car? Or would you still go for b7 rs4?

  • @timothyblake5532
    @timothyblake5532 4 роки тому

    I would have liked a hybrid more than a V6 Diesel. Or a hybrid diesel.

  • @iamwondergirl
    @iamwondergirl 4 роки тому

    This video really utilises its horsepower ;)

  • @trsisko
    @trsisko Рік тому

    I'll be honest had an a3 sline diesel since 2014 sports black edition i had no idea S range do diesel obviously does it compare to the bmw 330D? how the hell does it drive I assume it sounds like a tractor ? tbh i do a 40 mile commute 20 each way so please is this worth upgrading too, i aint poor nor rich but I think i can try for this?

    • @trsisko
      @trsisko 8 місяців тому

      ah apologies just heard the sound at the beginning does still sound like a tractor lol how'd i not notice that

  • @qwerty69600
    @qwerty69600 3 роки тому +1

    Where there's an X5, there's a knob.

  • @jamiemorris5177
    @jamiemorris5177 4 роки тому +1

    I can’t believe the German car manufacturers are still pushing down the diesel route

    • @zzhughesd
      @zzhughesd 4 роки тому +1

      jamie morris are they using up the last of the Diesel stock ??? It’s plain crazy

    • @jamiemorris5177
      @jamiemorris5177 4 роки тому

      dan hug hes
      It sure is

    • @jamiemorris5177
      @jamiemorris5177 4 роки тому

      8rick1ane
      The German car manufacturers seem to be the most behind in use new technology
      They must have massive Diesel engine factory’s to keep going

  • @Naspirated
    @Naspirated 4 роки тому

    Saw a new s7 today, tore away and sounded like a V8, artificial but still putting in the effort I guess

  • @nicwilson89
    @nicwilson89 4 роки тому

    I'd be more worried about the particulates and NOx than CO2, things that diesels are known for and are considerably more damaging

    • @MartinIrwin
      @MartinIrwin 4 роки тому

      Very true. Tell that to Greta, though.

    • @nicwilson89
      @nicwilson89 4 роки тому

      @@MartinIrwin She has something against that?

    • @stephandolby
      @stephandolby 4 роки тому

      A properly engineered diesel will spit out fewer particulates than pretty much all pre-GPF direct injection petrol cars, and some even emit less NOx than petrol cars too. The downside is you require a DPF and an exhaust additive (i.e. AdBlue) that you have to keep topping up. On the other side of the fence, petrol cars now have filters which should require a lot less maintenance (and no additive) but their fuel economy and power has suffered a little as a result, just as it did for diesels.
      Either way, people won't be able to buy diesel nor petrol cars within 10-20 years, however clean they might get.

  • @CJax749
    @CJax749 4 роки тому

    Bet it’ll be loud as fuck when someone inevitably straight pipes it

  • @riverstour
    @riverstour 4 роки тому

    I'm really not convinced about the exterior styling on the new audi's, even with the S and RS' they don't look as good as they once did which is concerning as its hard to see how it will evolve, they seem quite tacky! the interior's still lead the way.

  • @g9icy
    @g9icy 4 роки тому +9

    Save a huge amount of money and get a 335d instead...

    • @g9icy
      @g9icy 4 роки тому

      @Jack njones Who said anything about first gen? As far as I'm aware, they only had issues with the swirl flaps breaking, but that's fixable and preventable. The newer N57(I think?) 35d engines are pretty bullet proof, dispite what some people seem to claim. I've had 2 of them and they've been faultless as long as they're taken care of well, with premium fuels and regular services.

    • @g9icy
      @g9icy 4 роки тому

      @Jack njones All diesels will suffer from carbon build up. Again, premium fuels or additives will help prevent that. Also, DPF tech has moved on since those first gens.

    • @Bku695
      @Bku695 4 роки тому

      Jack njones I had a first gen 335d and was an absolute belter of a car. Loved it and looked after it. After 120k the only mechanical issue with it was the starter. Not so bad.

  • @fredgasburger5969
    @fredgasburger5969 2 роки тому

    Only if I lived in Europe.

  • @jaychen5013
    @jaychen5013 Рік тому

    My 35 TFSI does 25mpg. FYI.

  • @OllieTT
    @OllieTT 4 роки тому

    I think the BMW that overtook your was a police car. Can see the lights in the rear glass, especially when its stopped in front of you.
    Basically all X5's that are in SE spec are police vehicles because nobody would use their own pounds to buy an X5 and not put at least the sport trim on it.

    • @Bku695
      @Bku695 4 роки тому

      Believe it or not it’s actually cheaper for the police to buy a fleet of BMW’s than it is to buy a fleet of Vauxhall’s or Fords.

    • @OllieTT
      @OllieTT 4 роки тому

      @@Bku695 my interest is peaked, how is that so?

    • @Bku695
      @Bku695 4 роки тому +1

      Oliver Loxley it’s the service and mileage package that BMW offer for their fleet vehicles, Vauxhall and ford can’t match it over say 50 vehicles. Pretty cool wee fact lol

    • @Bku695
      @Bku695 4 роки тому +1

      Otis Piffington they are a fantastic road policing car especially the touring. Loads of room in the back for all the equipment and more than enough of power for any emergency. X10 times better than the VXR Vauxhall insignia estate, which is very uncomfortable, quite unreliable and back aches especially after doing a 12 hour shift.

  • @Edvard.Munchkin
    @Edvard.Munchkin 4 роки тому +1

    The perfect car 😍

  • @spainter1985
    @spainter1985 4 роки тому

    Bizarre choice to make the new S4 a diesel, given how the general trend is in replacing diesels with petrol turbo engines. Sure it's a nice car but makes the S4 even more dull for me. Capable yes, desirable nope.

  • @kieranbrooks8216
    @kieranbrooks8216 4 роки тому

    I’m going to applaud Audi for choosing this new 3.0 TDI engine for the new S4.
    It’s still a fairly large capacity, multicylinder engine regardless of whether it’s petrol or diesel. We’re not going to have them for much longer. It would have been all too easy just to put in the ubiquitous 2.0 TSI 4 cylinder from the S3 and add a battery pack & electric motor and turn it into a full hybrid. I’ve even heard disturbing rumours that the next Mercedes C63 will have a four cylinder turbo hybrid... this was a car that had a 6.2 naturally aspirated V8 until not so long ago!
    I think this new 3.0 TDI unit has incorporated some technology from the RS5 TDI concept car from a couple of years ago that some of you might remember. It’s probably also a tribute to the diesel sports cars that won Le Mans for so many years, so it’s very good if you ask me.
    It’ll be very fast and I’ve always liked the sound of a big 6 cylinder diesel, I know this is amplified with a sound generator though.
    I’ve got a supercharged S4 at the moment but in a few years when I change it, this could be a possibility if they’re cheap enough by then.

  • @ABQ87
    @ABQ87 4 роки тому

    1 horsepower to begin with, nice.

  • @davidappleyard9544
    @davidappleyard9544 4 роки тому +2

    Terrible idea from audi, diesels have torque but no character

    • @MartinIrwin
      @MartinIrwin 4 роки тому

      Diesel is cheaper in Germany, so it’s a great idea.

    • @davidappleyard9544
      @davidappleyard9544 4 роки тому

      @@MartinIrwin Get that it's cheaper, but diesel cars have no soul, none whatsoever

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 4 роки тому +1

      M I if you‘re just concerned about fuel cost then you‘re not the type of person to look at an „S“ or „RS“

  • @Maurice_Moss
    @Maurice_Moss 4 роки тому +3

    4.0 v8 > 3.0 v6 > diesel... what a come down.

    • @Maurice_Moss
      @Maurice_Moss 4 роки тому

      @Unintended Consequences lol I meant 4.2. Well I'm not an engine snob, I have a small tsi atm, and I've owned a remaped diesel before and that was quick. But if I was spending that kind of money (in my dreams) I wouldn't want a diesel. Just looks more like a trim level now, rather than a performance model.

    • @stevenjr6582
      @stevenjr6582 4 роки тому

      @Unintended Consequences the infamous A5 2.0tfsi with oil problem manages 30mpg external and a generous 13mpg in town.
      The amount of technology they put in these days with this kind of efficiency is monstruos.
      Would own such a thing instead of an electric car ( tesla) any day.

    • @ACERASPIRE1
      @ACERASPIRE1 9 днів тому

      The s4/5 has never has a 4.0

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 4 роки тому

    Aren't diesel cars going to increase in road tax because of the other pollutants they put out?

    • @MartinIrwin
      @MartinIrwin 4 роки тому

      Who knows. It’s based on CO2 right now.

  • @brad146
    @brad146 4 роки тому

    The only people that will buy this car are the tractor fans. I mean diesel lovers.
    All the Audi S drivers are weeping everywhere. Including me. What a cock up.
    S6 as a diesel. Ha.
    Give me the V8 twin turbo. 😁

  • @moneymandan6217
    @moneymandan6217 4 роки тому

    Having drove this car it feels cheap and it's not a 58k motor

  • @Bugumir
    @Bugumir 4 роки тому +1

    I'm having trouble understanding how someone can have £60k for a car and lack £60 for petrol. But hey, keep pumping diesel in performance cars just to make sure no one wastes too much money on a car designed for wasting money.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  4 роки тому +1

      Because nearly nobody actually buys them for £60k, they finance them - and then an extra £150 a month would make a difference

  • @StronthPL
    @StronthPL 4 роки тому

    How much does it cost Mustang GT in UK?

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw 4 роки тому

      Ubik £43k for the GT or £48k for the Bullitt. If you don’t need 4 doors it’s a no brainer.

    • @StronthPL
      @StronthPL 4 роки тому

      @@Jabber-ig3iw
      Thanks. Yeah,
      I'd rather buy even Mustang Ecoboost 2.3 than this new S4.
      BTW, If you must have 4 doors, you have Stinger GT instead.

  • @CarsaremytingTV
    @CarsaremytingTV 4 роки тому

    horses!

  • @CrazyBrothers445
    @CrazyBrothers445 3 роки тому

    The price is simply mental, for a ancient 3.0 tdi, it s a joke I guess.

  • @HPM2024
    @HPM2024 4 роки тому

    Thank God we don’t get the diesel bs in America.

  • @ahemgee9542
    @ahemgee9542 4 роки тому +1

    Not something you'd ever take a Sunday morning drive. Disgusting sound and boring engine. Low revs, narrow power band. Offers very little over a 3.0tdi A4.

    • @jameslloydcole8783
      @jameslloydcole8783 4 роки тому

      AhEmGee why would you take any S4 for a Sunday morning drive, diesel or petrol... it’s a damn saloon car, these cars are not for people who go on “Sunday morning drives” those people can buy a lotus, focus RS, etc

    • @ahemgee9542
      @ahemgee9542 4 роки тому

      @@jameslloydcole8783 I have a 2019 AMG C43 Estate with a remap. A close competitor to the S4. I take it out for morning drives in the Peak District very often, and its fun whether rain or shine. A big part of that is the rear bias awd , and the fantastic characterful engine. The now nose heavy and dull -engined lacks whatever fun factor the previous one had.

  • @kristianspencer1978
    @kristianspencer1978 4 роки тому

    £58000 for a diesel s4.? What could u buy for that. A mint e39 m5 for £40000. Vxr8 gts for £35000. A c63 amg for £40000. E63 amg for £40000, f10 m5 for £40000. A 997 turbo for £50000.? Audi have got to b having a laugh.?

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  4 роки тому

      I dont think any car makers really care about the used competition, it's not relevant. A used 997 turbo would cost more on finance anyway I suspect

  • @stuartwhelan3258
    @stuartwhelan3258 4 роки тому

    No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

  • @Demoaccount-i2k
    @Demoaccount-i2k 4 роки тому

    Effin nonsense
    If they wanna now have s4 diesel
    Just call it like it is
    SD4

  • @isluderea8322
    @isluderea8322 4 роки тому

    Fake sound, fake exhaust, fake S6...but real price tag

  • @Inazuma68
    @Inazuma68 4 роки тому

    Fake exhaust sound and ugliest front ever (like all new Audis), what are they thinking? Reminds at the time when BMW were designed by Bangle...

  • @georgeapplegate2091
    @georgeapplegate2091 4 роки тому

    Heavy and diesel, just not for me thanks. C43 or a 335i as nice as the interior and exterior is, it needs to go on a Diet and lose the derve.

    • @georgeapplegate2091
      @georgeapplegate2091 4 роки тому

      @Jack njones the steering is inert and vague, weight stunts handling, performance and efficiency.

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 4 роки тому +1

      @Jack njones you forgot understeer. thats what audis are known for.

    • @robbiebobson5746
      @robbiebobson5746 4 роки тому

      Yawn, standard cliched Audi comments.. Drive one the steering is sharp, fast super intuitive. I hate BMWs fake weighted steering and if you’re getting under steer it’s because you can’t drive it properly, hold your line on the limit then use Quattro to fire you out the corner, even when it’s wet.

    • @georgeapplegate2091
      @georgeapplegate2091 4 роки тому

      @@robbiebobson5746 I've owned both s model Audi's and m sport BMW's, the BMW's have always handled more intiitive, more feeling and requires less turns to get you around the corner, rwd and better weight distribution helped massively too, I talk of the b7 S4 8j TTS and the b8 S4 Vs the 335i msport, 130i m sport, and the e92 m3

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 4 роки тому

      @@robbiebobson5746 problem is, quattro understeers you out of the corner because not enough rear bias and engine weight so far up front. they can be quick but you can only drive them like fwd cars.

  • @KeithJD
    @KeithJD 4 роки тому

    This is sacrilege.

    • @KeithJD
      @KeithJD 4 роки тому

      To add... I’m not even watching this review cause I’m upset.

  • @H20-s2t
    @H20-s2t 4 роки тому +2

    uuuh ohh... stinkyy

  • @pedropancho3128
    @pedropancho3128 4 роки тому

    Idious sound. I hope it doesn't sell.

  • @aircamera400
    @aircamera400 4 роки тому

    That’s a no from me I’m afraid

  • @alech8336
    @alech8336 4 роки тому

    Dull - no thanks.

  • @moham1287
    @moham1287 4 роки тому

    Typical - UA-camr gets press cars and loses objectivity. You can hear how much this car sucks in his voice as much as the terrible engine noise.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  4 роки тому

      I suggest you watch my R8 review, and my upcoming SQ7 review. I am not shy of criticising the product where it deserves it, and I made a point of saying this is not a proper review, more of a first drive

    • @moham1287
      @moham1287 4 роки тому

      @@JayEmmOnCars Say what you want about a supercar or a 6 figure SUV - it won't change the sales figures. If Audi are trying to pass off a diesel as a sports saloon, they need all the spin they can get :)

  • @Fk.sbr1
    @Fk.sbr1 4 роки тому

    1st

    • @Sophiechic
      @Sophiechic 4 роки тому

      What a great achievement well done sir🎉🎊🎉👍

  • @apowers7783
    @apowers7783 4 роки тому +1

    Nice diesel Volkswagen...

  • @julianevans9548
    @julianevans9548 4 роки тому +8

    German suspension so hard that it's worth remarking on that 'you could daily drive this car'. What else would you do with such a thing?

  • @callumsaunderson1089
    @callumsaunderson1089 4 роки тому +60

    Sounds like a Tractor at idle, so wrong for an S car 😭

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 4 роки тому +7

      Yup, first thing I thought. (Well, second, after 'WTF? Horses?')
      It doesn't sound too awful on the move - but that's damning with faint praise - but at idle... yeesh.
      The only reason to buy a diesel is to save money. So, why does anyone buy an expensive diesel?
      I realise some people might not care how it drives, but do they have no sense of smell or hearing?

    • @CJax749
      @CJax749 4 роки тому

      Callum Saunderson
      Well the petrol heads always bought the RS models anyway.
      S models were always bought by executives so it makes sense they’d be happier with a higher mpg

    • @TorpedoStudios
      @TorpedoStudios 4 роки тому +1

      Callum Saunderson have you ever heard a Straight piped 3.0 tdi btw have you ever heard a Diesel car in General?

    • @johnjerrehian4642
      @johnjerrehian4642 4 роки тому +1

      No they don't. I own a newer 3.0 tdi and it's hard to tell it's a diesel

    • @stevenjr6582
      @stevenjr6582 4 роки тому +1

      It's all about torque and efficiency!

  • @danielveres5021
    @danielveres5021 4 роки тому +12

    Yeah it‘s a cool diesel with a lot of torque but an S Model has to have a Petrol engine

    • @chamman9785
      @chamman9785 4 роки тому +4

      I must have missed that memo, I thought the criteria of an S was to have more power than the normal A's, I suspect its prejudism that makes you think diesel is unworthy, with 350ps and 700nm this ones defo powerful enough, diesel is near as damn it rocket fuel, dont you think a slightly higher octane rocket fuel powered machine sounds brutal af and totally worthy of an S badge?

    • @scarra69
      @scarra69 4 роки тому

      The point of an s was to be a halfway between normal a4 and rs. This car will have golfs making it look stupid. Effectively you are now paying over the odds for a 3.0 a4 tdi. This car does not beat the 2017 18 petrol version. It can not be modded as its already at its limits. You can turn a petrol s4 in to a powerhouse well above 400hp. This tractor is stupid and pointless. People will just shift to m340i or c43

  • @devlad
    @devlad 4 роки тому +6

    I see this as hi-po diesel trim level of the A4 rather than a real S4

  • @conconr322
    @conconr322 4 роки тому +3

    Rather get a second hand f90 m5

  • @wm2357
    @wm2357 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome outtro!
    I just wish the sticking out cheap plasma screens weren't allowed in cars.

  • @leokal457
    @leokal457 4 роки тому +4

    But ther is one question: Is the exhaust real?

    • @KXP70
      @KXP70 4 роки тому +3

      No, they are not.

    • @danielveres5021
      @danielveres5021 4 роки тому

      Left side: yes
      Right side: no

    • @MASO204
      @MASO204 4 роки тому

      @@danielveres5021 whats the point! shite!

    • @MASO204
      @MASO204 4 роки тому

      @@simnatercroc4385 what do you mean? I mean the car is shit not his comment. Why have fake parts on a car if it has no function and its clear its fake don't add it to the design!

    • @MASO204
      @MASO204 4 роки тому

      @@simnatercroc4385 haha no fighting dude I was moaning about the car i'm a huge Audi fan and they are killing the brand with these shit designs

  • @1davemass1
    @1davemass1 4 роки тому +1

    Owned my b9 S4 from new. That had its naysayers but it moves well and sounds off just fine when it's worked. I just can't bring myself to this new engine clatter and dull exhaust note. It's not why I drive my S4. History repeating?

  • @user-ee3hj3os3d
    @user-ee3hj3os3d 3 роки тому

    Diesel 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @johnjerrehian4642
    @johnjerrehian4642 4 роки тому +7

    I have the 3.0 TDI in an A6. Love the diesel and it's so nice to drive with all that low end trq.

    • @zmx363
      @zmx363 3 роки тому +1

      I’ve got the b7 A4 3.0 TDI - genuinely fun to drive and smooth. I’d class it as a sleeper tbh

    • @johnjerrehian4642
      @johnjerrehian4642 3 роки тому +2

      @@zmx363 Nice! I added a Race Chip and leave it on 7, (most performance). HP went from 240HP to 283HP and torque from 428 ft pds. to 515 ft pds. Really made a nice difference. I also added a better flowing air filter but really nothing noted.

  • @kesando84
    @kesando84 4 роки тому +1

    👍🏽 to the new music. A UA-camr that considers the comments of his fans

  • @lkmb1717
    @lkmb1717 4 роки тому +1

    What about those ridiculous 4 FAKE exhaust pipes???

  • @BluePixelMotorcycling
    @BluePixelMotorcycling 3 роки тому

    It's hard to believe that they went with the ZF8 due to power when the older A4/A5 with the 3.0tdi and Stronic handled the power just fine, even when mapped to higher torque figures than what the new S4 puts out. You've then got the likes of other performance cars using Stronic / DSG transmissions, also putting out more power and handling it fine. The ZF8 is a more refined gearbox and becoming very popular so maybe it was more due to cost and refinement over power.

  • @gregsimpson9391
    @gregsimpson9391 4 роки тому

    If they had real exhausts tips and not fakes and had got rid of that ''in your face screen'' I would have bought one. They are fabulous cars and I love that biturbo diesel - the previous one anyway. Instead I've gone for a BMW M340i which is simply better in all respects - and economical. An RS4 was a serious contender but a lot more money - and still with that screen :( !

  • @benrand9913
    @benrand9913 4 роки тому

    I just cannot accept two fake exhaust pipes. It's embarrassing. Why didn't they have the pipes split and squared off like the Msport 530ds?! S4s are meant to be closer to Q cars anyway, so just relax the OTT styling.
    Want a fast diesel, just get a 3/435d. Nicer looking, mostly rear biased, massively reliable under remaps, and not a load of fakery
    Want a great midrange petrol sports saloon car? Get a C43! Disappointed with Audi today 😞

  • @777OAS
    @777OAS 4 роки тому

    The S4 is a boring shadow of its former self. Almost all the characteristics of previous models no longer available. Manual gearbox gone, quad exhaust tips faked, exhaust notes also faked, petrol engine gone. Other than the quattro system what's left...

  • @Patsy-rd7kj
    @Patsy-rd7kj 4 роки тому

    Not the FIRST time Audi have put a Diesel V6 in an S vehicle..... few years ago SQ5 Twin turbo V6.... fantastic SUV, & I should know , i'm on my second one, SQ5 Plus+ 'special Edition' 17 plate, great all rounder, shift's like a scalded Cat....700Nm out of the box.

  • @knightofcydonia07
    @knightofcydonia07 4 роки тому

    It does actually sound pretty good in the drive-away clips you've posted. For my daily commute it would be a pretty nice way to have my cake and eat it, but the A4 just isn't an attractive car anymore. Too fussy, oddly proportioned and just a little chunky. It started out with that nice pert tail, wonderful glass house and generally understated. That just doesn't seem to be the German thing, anymore.

  • @gadgetboy38
    @gadgetboy38 4 роки тому

    Only downside I can see that in the UK at least Diesel cars are depreciating like a led balloon at the moment, no good for the person buying it from new but excellent in the second-hand market.