New BMW M240i xDrive Review - It's heavier, it's way more expensive...what has the M240i become?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:38 How to sell your car on Cars.co.za
00:58 🍆
01:30 Price of the 2016 BMW M240i
01:43 BMW M240i xDrive price in South Africa
02:09 BMW B58 engine power vs BMW M2
02:37 BMW M240i xDrive weight
03:28 Why is the new 2 Series all-wheel-drive
04:42 BMW M240i vs BMW 228i
05:20 What's the BMW M240i xDrive like to drive?
06:09 M240i xDrive power and torque (kW and hp)
06:21 BMW M240i xDrive 0-100km/h time
06:35 M240i exhaust sound
06:59 M240i gearbox transmission
07:45 BMW M240i xDrive system
08:25 BMW ZF gearbox vs M-DCT
09:05 Can you drift a BMW M240i xDrive?
10:15 What is wrong with the BMW M240i xDrive?
11:25 BMW M240i instrument cluster display
12:23 BMW M240i xDrive vs BMW M2
12:58 Is the M240i a sportscar?
13:48 BMW M240i vs BMW 3 Series and 4 Series
14:30 BMW M240i vs Porsche 718
15:10 BMW M240i vs Honda Civic Type R
When BMW pursued a front-wheel-drive layout for their popular 1 Series model, it certainly made sense from a business point of view. The platform could underpin the Mini products and an xDrive version could underpin some of the smaller BMW SUVs.
However, this left the 2 Series high and dry. With no compact, rear-wheel-drive platform available, BMW had to base the new 2022 2 Series on the underpinnings of the 3 Series.
The result is a much heavier, much more expensive M240i. So we sent our video journalist, Ciro De Siena, out to the world-famous Franschoek Pass to try and answer the question, what has the M240i become?
BMW M240i xDrive price in South Africa (July 2022)
R1,063,622
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Imagine paying like R600 000 for a kia picanto in the future and telling your kids, "when I was your age they use to go for R130 000!"😅😂
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😂😂😂😂😂😂crazy but true
It's depressing how possible that is. In 1999, a Golf GTi was about R120 000. In 2022 that amount buys a rather high mileage Polo.
Give it another 6 years😉
I’ve owned the car since February and it’s everything positive that you said and more. There really is no direct competition. Boxster, Cayman Supra are all single purpose 2 seat sports cars. Fun to drive but not necessarily daily drivers. I also own a Boxster and even though it’s fun to drive if I was told I could only have one of them it’s not even competitive, the 240i all day. It’s beautiful, super comfortable and dual purpose. My 2 cents.
The head lights looks like that of a 2022 Isuzu d'max
Can't even afford to buy this Car but whenever Ciro reviews a car I just feel like I am in the passengers seat with him . Your reviews rocks and straight to the point
I agree. Probably the best car review show on the planet. Imagine if they had the same access as 1st world reviewers have? Keep them coming
@@ivangoat They actually do....the internet is the same everywhere.
@@samonzola1531 I don't know where you saw any mention of the internet in my comment. The access I was referring to was in relation to vehicle launches and press days etc. European and US reviewers have wider access then our local content creators. But I appreciate you educating me on how the internet works, smart fellow you are.
@@ivangoatIvan the answer is still the same, they get invited to all the launches worldwide, every corner, they just have to get themselves there....Funny the internet has made all that happen, hmmm
@@samonzola1531 nuh uh
I had the F22 M240i for 4 years and loved every minute of my ownership. At this price however I don't seem myself rushing into the new one. Maybe a 2 year old model once someone else has eaten the initial depreciation.
You mean 5 year depreciation..the supply and demand issue is still in the supplier favour. these are still north of 700k.
Why did you get rid of your F22?
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Was coming out of warranty so I needed a replacement.
supply has been INCREDIBLY low since production is down. in a few years, there will not be a over saturated used market for this as a result of the limited number of new ones now. few new cars now = fewer used cars later
@@10essee10titans Sounds like something a used car salesman would say to try pull a fast one.
I have the previous version and love it. I actually bought it after seeing your review 🙂
R1.1 million sounds ridiculous for the M240i until you find out that the Audi S3 costs the same off dealership floors. I’m not justifying the pricing, but that’s the market, and I’d have the BMW over that Audi. However, for the money, why not go M340i? The 2 isn’t a classic sports car anymore with the X Drive system, so what are you missing with the 3?
True that, there's no brand new Sporty vehicle that can match what the M240i gives you at R1.1m. I mean a mere CLA 35 costs around the same with even a poor standard spec. The M240i has almost all features loaded as standard.
@@trevorlbennett yeah there isn't a real Competitor except the cavemen which is alot more expensive..but I got the m240i in the peanut butter and grape jelly spec 🥜🫐
The drone shots are amazing
We're so glad your enjoyed them. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for adding humor back into the video's!!!!
Really good and thorough motoring journalist! Really enjoying your reviews!
This is great to hear, thank you so much!
Drove it a few weeks ago with a lot of MPerfomance kit, LOVED IT, BLOODY FAST AND LOUD. Love your views on this Ciro.
B58 🔥... engine sound always 👌! Love the interior 👌... the current M2 competition is a looker and a dream bad boy drive - but with the new M2 coming, is it really worth buying it now?
Just bought a house at the beach on a 652sqm property for 950k. In 10 years time it will be worth double. In ten years this car will be worth less than half the asking price. Madness.
What area? That's a lot of sqm for 950k!
@@ilyaasc63 Arniston, in the Overberg, Western Cape. We got it for an absolute steal. Couldn't pass up the opportunity.
Enjoyed your review, I have the M3 F80 , but ordered the M240I to replace it, @ R2,2mill the M3 has lost the plot, my M240I should be delivered next week, and just to keep it simple, i am now at the age that leaving black lines down the road are in the past, i use the M3 as a daily driver and love it, but the best BMW i ever had, and i have had few was my 2011 135i DCT - oh boy i loved that one.
Based in ur impression it seems the small bmw will always be more thrilling than bigger ones even though they are more powerful. That always make me thing if the g80 would be an interesting upg to my m2c i dunno.
Btw await ur comparison of ur new m240i x f80
I know the feeling coming from a F82 M4, I jumped into a M340i X drive. Sure the new G series M4 is fast but at that pricing it's no longer an attainable car for most South Africans. Still I can't understand over a million rand price jump from an M340i to the new G series M3.
I wish BMW would come with a refresh of the e30. Some other companies did a refresh of old timers as well. But it should be light and affortable.
Lol Ciro reading our minds as car lovers is why I always tune in. Was asking myself the same question rather getting a porsche 718.
M2 will probably be around R1,5m-R2m(Assumption) but me personally Id still be waiting for the M2 Comp or M2 CS
Either way Great Review Ciro
I've driven the new 2 series (220i). It was too heavy and uninvolved to drive. It just made me appreciate my light, nimble and manual F22 218i even more
The only reason I'm going to trade my 2017 m240 for this new one is after test driving the new one, it drives a lot smoother and feels significantly quicker. I'm not really impressed with it, but it's just slightly better than my 2017, just slightly
What is the petrol consumption per 100km? Nice car review as always 👌
Great insight into this new generation
The 240i is available as sdrive(atleast in germany) since last month - so there is atleast a rwd version :)
The B58 Engine is awesome. The whole car is a nice recipe, though it feels like some of the goodies are being saved for the upcoming M2. The pricing though, I still wonder if it is smart to buy a 2-series for a million Rand.
that car plus that road!😍🥰😘
I'm sure the new 2-series is a great car in its own right and I wouldn't argue with anyone who drives one and says that, but I still feel like the essence of what made people fall in love with the 2-series in the first place is gone with this new generation model. The size, dimensions, weight & price (!!!) are all indicative of that. The previous-gen 2-series has become somewhat of a darling to South African car lovers & BMW enthusiasts, and I sincerely hope this one doesn't flop...
What new car can you get with this much performance for this price price (R1.1m) as an alternative?
@@trevorlbennett I’d rather have a 718 (as Ciro mentioned) for this price.
@@DeanFriederich he was talking about the M440i when he mentioned 718.
A 718 is a completely diriment vehicle, appealing to different customers.
@@trevorlbennett that’s not true. Go back and watch that chapter again.
@@DeanFriederich ohh yeah, my bad.
It's crazy to me that this car doubled in price in South Africa... in the states it's only gone up a few thousand dollars.
Nice one‼️ for the performance it’s worth it ✅
Love your channel 😎
Thank you, appreciate it 🙏
i personally owned the M235 and driven a lot of different bmw's, the m235 with the e46 m3 are i think the top 5 best bmw's ever made... I mentioned the e46 m3 because that with the m235 reminded me alot of each other.
The m235 engine was a masterpiece and it sounds like this one will join the line :)
Nice review Cars! SJOE!
Thanks Ernest!
I drove the one and only 228i coupe that came to Namibia for a solid 7 years as my daily driver and 230 000 km later…what a car. I can’t wait to get my hands on the new 230i or this 240i if the budget allows.
Get yourself a 3 Series,better looks and well practical
I would like see how the 440i compares?
I believe it shares the same platform as the Z4 and Supra(CLAR) not the 3 series
spot on!!
Surprisingly the M340i is also the same price.
I think wont be much different in performance (about 10-15% most)
I love it, Cant Justify the price and need to ask why are all of your cars GP registered when you test them?
BMW factory is at GP...Isuzu Dmax had EC registration...
Love this car! Looks amazing in the metal. Saw one at Rosebank the other day.
It honestly looks good and doesn’t sound too bad
The truth is that this is where we are now with vehicle prices. Sporty cars that had that raw thrill are now all rounders and to be fair it kind of justifies the price as a full package. The looks for me are kind of “myeeeh” but for the enjoyable driving experience I don’t doubt it and for that reason it’s a yes for me if I had the moola and was looking for a compact sporty car. The bright side is that it has actual nobs and physical buttons.
Only if you get a car built before August 22. After that all new two series will have idrive 8 and a long screen and almost no buttons and no gear stick.
Seems quite nice. However, I have an F87 M2 and not a single part of me wants this M240i sadly.
I would have a New Toyota Supra with the same B58 motor, just less power(250kw/500NM) but it's much lighter and it's rear wheel drive but the best part of the supra is the looks for me and it's my favourite car ever. So yah this new 2 series isn't for me! But you guys video quality of this review on this car Ciro is spectacular 👌 😄.
Supra makes much more sense..for the reasons you give and its 300k cheaper.
Supra is better. And new 2022 is the same 387hp.
I’d like to see this 240i, m2 comp and m2 drag race and a rolling race.
think i seen one m240i vs m2 comp..m240i beat the m2 off the line..but Rolling race m2 beat the m240i by maybe a half a car length
Definitely not the best looker and quite the porker. The new car market is so expensive 😩.
But then again, popular past performance models are really holding their value with similar power outputs. Great review as always Ciro.
It sounds great though
So how much is M2 2023 ?
With a GTI going for 800k, and the s3 and a35 going for a mil, I think this car is priced correctly.
Ek wag nou nog vir vir die m3/m4 x drive video
I guess im one of the only people that like the newer 2 series better
Still love my 335i
The mustang gt 2022 is Around 1,180 mill.
Similar price like the M340i, so where does it really fit in the BMW lineup, something tells me it not going to sell well
Most definitely... They've low key killed it
ehhhh some what but not really..fully option out m240i is like 59k(us).a base out m240i is 50k(us) .base out m340i is like 59k(us).fully option out m340i is like 70k(us)..really and truly there isn't a Competitor for the m240i for what you get from hp and the price,but a m340i competitor the list is somewhat long.. amg c43 , s5 sportback, kia stinger gt2 , umm a Genesis g70 or g80, i mean probably charger scatpack, Cadillac ct4 v(non blackwing) etc...m240i is a daily driver M🔵🔴⚪ light vehicle
lmao what?
In germany the the m340i does costs 15 grand more
@@Errost5 i was looking at a m340i or m440i i choose neither one..got the m240i..
@@samuelreid603 ill take a m240i rwd or a m2 next year, a 340i is fcking expensive over here - the m2 is probably a couple grand cheaper than a base 340i
Lovely straight 6 howl and then proceed to put the music louder rather than let us hear the engine...
I drive a e91 320d. Its not fast, its not slow but its hell of fun to drive it with the M chassis. I go around the corners faster then everybody. I see cars flipping around the corners who try to drive as fast as me. The best car I had so far and it was quiet cheap for what it can offer. A VW Golf 6 costs more and is trash. Always breaks and drives like a bowl.
Im a hard understeering Audis fan. But A 2 series wagon is needed here
The 230i is the way to go, light nimble and RWD
aswell as the 240i. You can order it since almost 2 month in sdrive.
You can buy your self an M2 2018 with low mileage its still a good car for the rand
Finding a problem to every solution type of reporting this. Pity, as it's a great car and will one day be described as underrated by the same people who isn't warming up to it right away. How do I know? Cause it happens over and over with smaller BMWs. And, quibbling about the price makes it more a ZAR issue than a BMW issue. I'd rather have a car like this on the market than not having one at tall.
Great video production, btw.
front wheel drive chassis to save money yadda yadda but this one is half a bar more than the old one lol, saving money didn't really work, did it?😂
BUT, you are 100% right: Too expensive & its NOT M2 anymore..
BUT BEST all rounder 💪
I'm just carried away by this road you are driving at.... ❤️❤️
Where is it?
It is Franschoek Pass, about an hour outside Cape Town
@@Carscoza Wow thanks, one day when I have my own car I will go there just for fun. I'm much closer because I live in Strand/Somerset West area.
Thanks again for your reply
Maybe BMW should scrap 4 series and replace it with 2 series...seeing as they share the same platform
Bmw is losing the plot with these newer designs
I want to see a drag race against the m240i, Audi rS3 and Mercedes A45 😎
I think Carwow and other channels have the race but bear in mind m240 does not compete with RS3 or A45, the rivals are S3 and A35...M2 competes with RS3 and A45...Thanks bro
Check Carwow..
Now this car make COMPLETE SENSE !
Absolutely LOVE IT !! 🤩😎💪
PERFECT in every aspect ⭐
The only real trouble - literally- is the limited crappy colours it come in 😯
😂🤣
Really ?!
AWESOME review !
World class all round !
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Thanks Cobus! We're really glad you enjoyed the video.
I would say they needed a few more colors like a orange color and green color...I got mine in the peanut butter and grape jelly spec 🫐🥜
@@Carscoza ALWAYS 👍⭐
@@samuelreid603 😂🤣😂🤣AWESOME 👍⭐👍⭐
The reason why these cars are so expensive and heavy is because of all the new tech they're adding to these cars.
I'm still not sold on the design of it 😂
So where’s 4 series in all this..
Overpriced unfortunately that is the case with most cars these days in SA
New car lacks that thing, it doesn’t have that BMW thing
Would take this beefy engine over a merc or audi of same class, but the market in RSA is not conducive and not justified for that price now! What a wrong time 2b alive 😁😁
My dad own dis😎
Better looking grill than the new barnhouse doors. Must be the last of good petrol engine drives.
Barnhouse doors🤣
That’s my exact spec. Hahaha
🤯 so basically the new M2 will cost Rupert money.
Nothing says "I have a small Eggplant" like driving an Aubergine colored BMW with protein reduced kak brown colored leather...
It’s funny how they’re trying to get us to use indicators with that ridiculous lane assist system. Turn it off, and be a BMW driver (be a hooligan on the road).
FYI.... Its technically incorrect to refer to the units of Torque as Newtons. Yes we know that you are referring to Newton Meter's BUT Newtons is the units for Force and Newton Meter is the unit for Torque /Moment. Fantastic review though😁
Bro this 2series is more expensive than the latest 340i series 😭
Do people not know that the M240i will eventually also be sold in RWD? Personally I think the current 230i as the 2 series sweet spot. Plenty quick and grunt and 400lb less weight and you can actually do some nice slides. Not sure why this guy is complaining, the M2 is very aggressive and a lot of people won’t like to live with that. The M240i will be what it always has been, a happy middle ground for people not wanting a full on M car.
But that's exactly what he said at the end?
time for me to consider a merc or an audi... BMW is on some rubbish recently
No lie
Designs are subjective but on performance they far superior ...their base models on par with full fats rivals
@@nhlanhlamagagula7467 cant say i agree with you hey... base model BMWs are pure disrespect in how many features they lack and no amount of "performance can compensate for that".
a base merc or audi is better these days.. heck instead of a base BMW you can get a high end golf and be happy... BMW is a, quite ugly cash grab these days.. really no other way to put it
this is the same company that wants to charge owners a subscription fee for heated seats ffs
@@David-ej1ps not true..have you inspected the build quality of audi or merc pure plastics cannot match the build quality of bmw...
On performance the base is on par with full fat
Again looks are subjective
If you looking for executive build quality performance..bmw delivery
Disappointed by rivals c63 now is a 4 pot, rs5 on par with 340...no rivals for xdrive m3/4...CS versions are out of their leagues..
@@nhlanhlamagagula7467
RS3 : +- 1,3 mil
4.1secs 0-100km/h
M2 CS : +- 1.7mil
4.0 secs 0-100km/h
amg a45s: +- 1,3 ,il
3.9 secs 0-100km/h
so an extra 400k for what??🙄
BMW is boderline extreme with its pricing and depreciates like a sack of bad bricks.. lets not even talk about their horrendus service fees.
btw i drive one, and I am a fanboy. but they are no longer justifiably worth their price
Ive bought 2 cars over the 1mil mark , never again . not worth the burden . besides , this is a small 2 series , for a mil ??? the world is going crazy
Wait until you see a CLA 35 base price, and what spec it has. R 1,009,893 with a bare spec.
@@trevorlbennett ridiculous 🙄
I'm keeping me M2 CS forever. This new 2 series basically lost the BMW soul. I don't feel a thing seeing it.
Not even the g80 big brother.
BMW's M series are getting more and more like a GT. Too big and heavy (and did I say ugly?)
I have to take a pen and paper to write down the numbers,oh the Germans like to be complicated at some stage
I think the new 2 series in your words being "one of the best all-rounders", is exactly why it's not as good as it's predecessor. The 2 series was always meant to be a compromise of features, comfort, for a more raw and unrefined experience that's missing in a lot of modern luxury cars. The f22 was a true purist sports car, this is just a budget 4 series, and it really the bottom of the barrel when it comes to bmw performance. Basically this generations trades off what made the 2 series different from all other bmw performance models for slightly more comfort, luxury and daily-drivability. Also the exterior is just plain awful, like car designers just find it distasteful if you can say that about any car because of complete misuse of bodylines and plastics. The old 2 series was definitely one of the best looking modern bmw's; It's really a shame.
Right now the 240i is just if you want a b58 car for the lowest entry price, or a indistinguishable supra in bmw clothing with 2 more seats, but also toned down.
It's good at everything but that's precisely why it's a bad bmw 2 series. BMW's are "ultimate driving machine's", especially the 2 series. So stripping what made the old 2 series perfect and all the old e92 and e46 dna from it, really makes it more of an average car. It's really just lost it's personality, bmw wants it to be good at everything and it feels completely unmotivated. Like if I wanted a car that was decent at everything I'd go with a golf r or audi rs3; The thing that always differentiated bmw from audi is gone in this car. There really is little reason to pick this over an audi, the 2 series personality and raw dynamics are gone.
Design is growing on me
@@24k__J i saw it in person. Its much bigger than before. Looks more classy with a longer wheel base
The designs are subjective...Performance wise they far superior than their rivals...that B58 engine is a masterpiece I now understand why Toyota has it for Supra...really no need for M2, it's an all rounder it's just the price , will have to wait for depreciation to run on it ...Thanks for the review
With today’s car prices a new vehicle is not feasible for the average individual. People are looking for good demo models or a low mileage 2nd car which in most cases is ideal. The ribbon on the bonnet at a dealership is overrated. By the car you want at a price you can afford with a balloon payment. Keeping up with the Jones’s will drive you to debt. Excuse the pun😂😂😂🤣🤣
This car doesn’t even turn heads
bmw m2 2017 is much much much better! and i have it hahaaa
I feel like this review was not done justice it was full of complains about the weight and honestly I drove the car I didn't even feel the weight it handles well and it performs I mean I think the price is fine as well looking at the fact that cars like a gti are also at the million mark surely the golf r will be above a million we can't expect bmw to sell this car for R500k today when an a45s is R1,5M
Too expensive. Just no.
All I see on the comments..just people like me who can't afford the car...coming with all sorts of excuses "blah blah its ugly"
Only in RSA.
The words indicator and BMW just doesn't feel right 😂
Waaaay too much!
So here we have a smart dumb car that will steer you into a truck if you’re not watching the yellow line and the truck is overtaking? 1 smash and BMW will be facing huge court cases
BMW ruined the 2 Series. It was the last BMW drivers car but that is no longer. What a shame. Hated my drive in this new "2 Series". Very ugly as well. BMW now has two different 4 Series, yet both are equally ugly
Heavier, more expensive and uglier "take my money" that's what bmw thought
BMW has possibly got the worst design team , I don’t know what’s happening to their cars but man it’s getting uglier with every new model
I know the car looks ugly on camera, but trust me, it's worse in real life. It seems BMW has hired designers from the same place Ferrari's F1 team finds it's strategists.
The most ugliest bmw i ve ever seen but performance wise is outstanding
A global Microchip shortage, Russia at war and China tossing around over Taiwan . . . - Car's are not going to get any cheaper anytime soon!