This whole fight is about as Final Fantasy Setpiece as it gets. I love that even now, new stuff that's technically Heavensward content still has the classic FF feel to it.
Ultimate is definitely not for everyone, and that's totally okay! I like to make these videos so everyone can see the fights in their entirety, regardless of their raid experience
@@saysay8920 a group of people means it's you and 7 other people often time, there'd be 1 or 2 that are disagreeable with the rest and it would cause the static to fall apart until you made decision to replace them getting all 7 "right" people who clicks properly is really hard
Thanks for posting this, It's so hard to find clears that keep phase 1, and even harder to find videos with the cutscene. This vid has pretty well everything.
I would love to see this quality cutscene with Ultima weapon, Bahamut and Alexander ultimates. So much magic is lost cause you only are focusing on the mechanics to not die to enjoy the little details on the background and lore. I really enjoyed this fight as a cutscene.
I do have videos up for Ultima and UCoB, but unfortunately I hadn't sorted my recording setup to separate discord back when we first did TEA, and we have yet to go back
@@Sky-Txubaky For sure, there are more than a few fights that I'm disappointed I did not have proper recording for. O4S I did as a solo video, so you can see the fight... minus how it's actually supposed to work with 8 people lmao. I do actually have voice-less footage of all three Omega end bosses, as BLU clears, which I never uploaded, but they weren't recorded in a way that could let me add the instance cutscenes Dx I am missing Titan and Shiva (very sad about that one), though I do have E12S. I have put all the fights I have done like this in a playlist, could always check it out :3 If we get some comfy downtime, trying to convince my static to min ilvl some things solely for video purposes is definitely on my radar xD
I come back to this and see the door boss and Haurchefant protecting them from the spear and I reach out when he falls. He will forever be the true hero of Heavensward.
@@jdj95 Not so, my good internet person! I hail from a clan of scottish knights, who's first patriarch killed a bear for some lord's son and recieved a barony as a result! I bear the crest of my ancient people PROUDLY!
It's definitely a whole thing. My fave is that if you let hraesvelgr kill anyone in p6, he enrages because he broke his vow and proceeds to one shot everyone with his autos. And by fave I mean, my heart ;-;
@@atziwy there is system text: “His solemn vow broken, Hraesvelgr flies into a rage!” There is also a sound effect similar to the heavensfall tower falling/turning sound (oddly specific, but I think that’s actually it now that it comes to mind), so you super know you’re dead the moment it happens
Every time I see Thordan and the Knights Twelve I get Wu-Tang Clan vibes. As soon as Thordan's staff taps the floor I keep expecting the beat for "Triumph" to start.
This fight is so good it's really nice to see such a clean upload. :0 You guys really did great! I wish to someday have the time to sit down and prog an ultimate they really do seem like a lot of fun.
they definitely are, as long as you have a team where everyone is on the same page with goals and expectations. Then it's a nice, relatively chill time
Bro...did Square Enix REALLY have to be even more sadistic in this challenging content? Not only are the mechanics making you stressed, but right at @2:50 we have to see our best friend take the spear and just WATCH as his health depletes...and there is NOTHING you can do about it because you're trying to keep your own team alive.
I'll take that over him dying in a transition I see every pull, which was my worst case guess but... all are pain ;-; The whole fight is SE saying "LOOK THIS IS WHY HE HAD TO DIE" which is RUDE it didn't HAVE to go this badly!!!
Considering the size of the arena itself doesn't really change, I assume they just re-texture the arena and the skybox as the fight progresses which would be relatively simple tech-wise.
Thank you! And really, the devs outdid themselves with this one. It was unfortunate that we had to worry about not dying instead of enjoying the spectacle in prog xD
@@Ekoyuhale That's what the video is for though! To see the marvels of the fight and your conquest without the stress and strain of focusing on rotation, mechanics positioning, timing and the overall rancor of everything mixed together, now you get to just enjoy the ecstasy of your accomplishment with your legs kicked up and a bucket of popcorn. And so too do we~! Thanks for Sharing :D
Question: Since this is an alternative time line, with both dragons killed and 4 eyes available, would that mean that Ilberd would summon an even more powerful dragon, assuming all 4 eyes survives this fight and he takes them all.
we actually discussed this a lot! Tbh our take is that the eyes were exhausted after this fight (given how the final cutscene goes - it seems pretty different as far as dragon deaths have gone). No shinryu means no omega, so we DON'T die to not having hraes to save us. Middy is awake and... we probably just steamroll zenos in rhalgr's tbh, because we had to powercreep a guy with four dragon eyes already by the time we see him... I will stop rambling but it's a lot of fun to think about! ...just don't think about how almost every single dragon you know and love is dead
@@Ekoyuhale "...just don't think about how almost every single dragon you know and love is dead" Ilberd will be making a nice void baby with Vrtra's eyes.
@@Razornuke if you go with the timeline where ilberd still summoned shinryu, then yeah we die after taking omega out and that's ggs world. If he never summons it though, we never turn omega on, ez game
It must've been really interesting when people progged this fight for the very first time. Like, I wonder how they felt when they realized that you did in fact have to show Thordan mercy?
I really do hope they make more ultimate/savage fights with extra story contents like DSR! These are always fun to watch even if I'm not skillful enough to play them Also just wondering, what if you dont spare Thordan in P5?
Since Hauchy ain’t dead, no ghostly spirit to help with the eye (remember you and Alphy saving Estinien? kind of like that) means they reform into Nidhogg and kill you. With Thordan, he steals the exposed eyes after double dragon phase, and you can kill him in his super dragonking form.
Hi! I was looking into making a video with King Thordan and this retelling of the dragonsong war. Can I use some clips of your video here? I’ll mark it’s from you and put the link in the description. Thanks! 😄 And you guys did AMAZING great job!!
I noticed something interesting at the end of p2, at about 6:40. I notice at that part you're doing the aoe combo on single target. Am I correct in assuming that's to a) replenish MP/blood faster than the 1-2-3, and b) reduce dps on purpose to end thordan as close to his enrage as possible to try to buy time for CDs for P3/4?
it's because we're holding for certain phase timings, AoE regens resources faster, so it's basically me going "fk dps I just want mp/blood before this phase ends"
Wait, so how does phase 5 work? We save 'faunt's life, and I guess we twiddle our thumbs? Why? We know Thordan's intentions by this point, why don't we just go after him? How did Thordan get to Azyz Lla then? We clearly didn't fight Bismark in this timeline.
My best explanation is that we stood back to make sure Haurchefant was okay (not entirely out of character in all fairness) I can only assume that the knights twelve took out Bismark in this version I do agree that if we'd just chased Thordan down after making sure Haurchefant was good, we could probably have had our cake and eaten it too, but the goal was to have a spooky fight and explore avenues, so... fine! >:(
as someone too scared to try even savage when its current, well done, i know this Ultimate was BRUTAL, just out of curiosity, would you say UCoB is a more friendly introduction to Ultimates?
UCoB is more friendly due to the powercreep trivialising many parts of it, but UwU is the most friendly. If you haven't done much current savage though, that will be the best practise you can give yourself for any of them.
@@Ekoyuhale i asked about UCoB mainly because of just how significant Bahamut is in not just FF14 but the franchise as a whole, it’s just too amazing to not want to clear. I do have a group i think can pull it off.
Why must Haurchefant die in this retelling? Wasn't this suppose to be an alternate timeline story? I've seen clips of teams saving him, but not sure the reason you wouldnt.
he is saved in the intermission at 10:22, and you have to save him to progress the fight. If you don't, it just loops back to first thordan phase. You cannot save him the first time, as you can't LB3 (only two LB bars in knights phase) The fight tells the normal story, then the alternate version for the second half
@@Ekoyuhale oh I see! Thanks for the info. What an insane Ultimate to require figuring out what things to do, like not killing Thordan. Lol. Not at all like old Ults where you just do the dance.
@@TheIndigoEclipse Oh woke primals and enigma codex gave people a crazy run for their money when they were new, ngl. Thordan tells you to have mercy and the LB bars were a giveaway, so this one didn't throw people too bad. Was a good show as always though, ofc
I've been curious - what changes if you DON'T spare Thordan in P5? It's hard to find videos of it, but I assume Nidhogg & Hrae after can't be killed somehow?
I mentioned this briefly in another comment but essentially: you can and do kill Hraes and Niddy, but you don’t have the ghosts to help you in this timeline, so you end up in an unclearable eye phase. More specifically, you get Ysayle’s buff (shiva powers), but not Haurchefant’s (not friendship ghost), and his was the one that let you hit the eye that heals, so that eye is unkillable. You could technically do the mechanics to kill the other eye and go through the phase, as which point you would hit eyes enrage, which is where they reform into full dragon Nidhogg, who is invulnerable and casts revenge of the horde again (fun fact: eyes enrage is the only time Primogenitor plays in the fight)
Remember the scene where you and Alph are pulling Nidhogg’s eyes out of Estinien’s armour? In this case Ysalye uses her shiva powers to help, but Hauchy’s spirit/encouragement isn’t there, so you get one eye down and lose anyway from the other one.
why doe the Knights sound like demons from SMT V? I mean, I know Square Enix appreciates Christianity to the same extent that Atlus does, but that doesn't mean they need to steal friggin' vocal effects too. XD
Doesn't it really annoy anyone else that "king" is lowercase in Dragon-king Thordan? God it looks so wrong. They should have named him Dragon-King Thordan or even Dragonking Thordan! At least that last one doesn't look nowhere near as bad.
@@Ekoyuhale Thanks! It seems pretty smooth and well above 60 by the looks of it. I have a 3080 build and for some reason it never really reaches 120… any thoughts or recommendations?
@@stephencao6135 it could be a CPU issue depending on age, mine is ~4years old though (Intel i7-9700k). As for FFXIV specifically, it tends to be well optimised. Make sure GPU drivers are updated, sometimes there's a bad apple release and you could be accidentally sitting on it. Double check that you aren't using an in-game frame limiter, because FF's is historically full of problems that loses you frames. Use Rivastatistics tuner if you need to limit FPS. For example, my game WILL hit 144 FPS, but it varies down to the mid 120s, so I capped it there so I never have to look at frame fluctuations xD I have everything thrown on ultra, but there are some options that impact more than others, one being parallex occlusion (the bumpy ground, generally), and the next being real time reflections. If it's none of those things, I would double check what's actually going on per core on the processor, try taking FF off of the first core if it's sitting there (set affinity), and you can try making it a higher priority process to confirm if something else running is the issue /long comment
@@Ekoyuhale hey thanks for the long comment. I really appreciate you taking the time typing those out. I’m using an I7-12700K, the entire system is newly built about a month ago and I didn’t see any problem with the cores or other running components :/ I have most settings thrown on Ultra (running 2K) and limiting my in game FPS at 144hz (I have a 4K 144hz monitor). Haven’t tried running it at 1080P but running at 4K lowered my avg FPS by another 20 or so. Such a weird feeling that my hardwares should allow me to hit 144 at 2k but the reality is only around 100.
@@stephencao6135 Are you limiting it with FFXIV's in-game limiter? if you are, turn it off completely ("None") and use RTSS (riva statistics tuner) instead if you still want to limit it (or other options, that's just what I use). Losing FPS to XIV's limiter is a persistent issue, it's the main reason everyone complained until they added the none option back when they tried to force it
there is a normal version of this. is called the following. the vault dungeon,nidhogg extreme fight. and the trial with thordan. ultimates are not meant to have "normal version" they are MEANT to be the hardest content out there for people who wish to push their limits. this is not for everyone.
@@SuguSugux there is absolutely no normal version of this, idk what game you’re playing. Why put such an interesting fight in the game and only a small percentage of player will ever do it? Makes no sense, there should be an easier version with less rewards and easier mechanics.
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Wandering Minstrel low-key just telling a tale that saving Haurchefant would've been a huge mistake
the devs saying "SEE HE HAD TO DIE" and making a 22 minute fight to try to prove it
does make me wonder about a certain ancient in a certain remake part 2...
@@TheAuron32 I think 8.0 ultimate will probably involve all the Ascians together
This is Yoshida trying to get the Fandom to stop making shrines at the FF fanfests.
He's tired of our bullshit already.
@@RunItsTheCat I'm fairly sure they are talking about FF7R
Kudos to your summoner for giving Haurchefant a hug at 11:29. Most important mechanic of the whole ultimate fight.
DRG from the vid here, just wanna let you know they hugged him for EVERY SINGLE PULL after we got to that phase lmao
@@QuasarManiac Aww, that's adorable! Gotta remove that Hurt/Comfort debuff somehow!
As well you should. ❤
@@ClanCrusherangst DeBuff
@@HaurchefantCrystalheart*CRYING*
This whole fight is about as Final Fantasy Setpiece as it gets. I love that even now, new stuff that's technically Heavensward content still has the classic FF feel to it.
I love 13:20, when the chant part of the song starts and the party moves to their spots with such purpose.
it's great line up, I agree
same
Love how clean and high quality the video is!
Thank you kindly
Ultimate content looks really complicated, but looks like you guys did really great. I would prob never play this content myself so it's neat to see!
Ultimate is definitely not for everyone, and that's totally okay! I like to make these videos so everyone can see the fights in their entirety, regardless of their raid experience
People overestimate ultimates a lot. Anyone can do it if you have 7 people with time and the right mindset
@@CineGoodog true but maybe don't start with DSR for ultimates though lmao
@@CineGoodog true
but then again, getting the right group of people is the first roadblock for most people
@@saysay8920 a group of people means it's you and 7 other people
often time, there'd be 1 or 2 that are disagreeable with the rest and it would cause the static to fall apart until you made decision to replace them
getting all 7 "right" people who clicks properly is really hard
Thanks for posting this, It's so hard to find clears that keep phase 1, and even harder to find videos with the cutscene. This vid has pretty well everything.
That was the goal! I’m glad to have gotten it out there. The fight is one cohesive story- having parts of it missing when you want to see it sucks
@@Ekoyuhale agreed you did great :)
Lol with that in PF
I would love to see this quality cutscene with Ultima weapon, Bahamut and Alexander ultimates. So much magic is lost cause you only are focusing on the mechanics to not die to enjoy the little details on the background and lore. I really enjoyed this fight as a cutscene.
I do have videos up for Ultima and UCoB, but unfortunately I hadn't sorted my recording setup to separate discord back when we first did TEA, and we have yet to go back
@@Ekoyuhale another fun idea is to do the savage versions of the omega raids that have bosses that transform and the eden ones.
@@Sky-Txubaky For sure, there are more than a few fights that I'm disappointed I did not have proper recording for. O4S I did as a solo video, so you can see the fight... minus how it's actually supposed to work with 8 people lmao. I do actually have voice-less footage of all three Omega end bosses, as BLU clears, which I never uploaded, but they weren't recorded in a way that could let me add the instance cutscenes Dx
I am missing Titan and Shiva (very sad about that one), though I do have E12S. I have put all the fights I have done like this in a playlist, could always check it out :3
If we get some comfy downtime, trying to convince my static to min ilvl some things solely for video purposes is definitely on my radar xD
This is Thordan, one of the best fightd in the game. This is why they went far and beyond in quality with this one
I come back to this and see the door boss and Haurchefant protecting them from the spear and I reach out when he falls. He will forever be the true hero of Heavensward.
Haurchefaunt... Those of us who knew you will never forget you, you live in our hearts eternally, in the end YOU were the Hero.
right in the feels
back then i was a squishy Monk... he really did save my arse.
Heroes never die. ❤
I killed him, it was me who threw the lance of light
Dude as a tank and DRK main, your mitigation usage is just perfect :'
tempered in the pre-5.0 era
@@Ekoyuhale you got hit by the TB 1 second before Shadow Well expired like 😩😩😩😩😩😩
thx for the asmr. now i can relive my ptsd every night before bed :)
*"to me, my knights" sounds in the distance*
Same thing with cards buff from AST, DRKs are second on the list to get card bufss on the priority list with SMN being the first (due to bahamut)
Amazing work - not just with the video, but also the fight. Absolutely beautiful team work there.
Still reppin that Ala Mhigan fending glamour 2 years down the line. Only found that gear recently myself but it looks so good.
yeah I'm a big fan, I have yet to be tempted away
@@Ekoyuhale I am glad I am not the only tank in love with that set evermore. My warrior never takes it off...
I've been wanting to see this for a while. thank you for your hard work.
Once you get old will you change your name to Peter old?
@@jdj95 Not so, my good internet person! I hail from a clan of scottish knights, who's first patriarch killed a bear for some lord's son and recieved a barony as a result! I bear the crest of my ancient people PROUDLY!
For a person who barely can clear extreme fights, this looks so insane. Such a great video!
It's definitely a whole thing. My fave is that if you let hraesvelgr kill anyone in p6, he enrages because he broke his vow and proceeds to one shot everyone with his autos. And by fave I mean, my heart ;-;
Just like me fr fr
@@Ekoyuhale Does he say any trigger text after KO'ing a member of the pty?
@@atziwy there is system text: “His solemn vow broken, Hraesvelgr flies into a rage!”
There is also a sound effect similar to the heavensfall tower falling/turning sound (oddly specific, but I think that’s actually it now that it comes to mind), so you super know you’re dead the moment it happens
Every time I see Thordan and the Knights Twelve I get Wu-Tang Clan vibes. As soon as Thordan's staff taps the floor I keep expecting the beat for "Triumph" to start.
This fight is so good it's really nice to see such a clean upload. :0 You guys really did great!
I wish to someday have the time to sit down and prog an ultimate they really do seem like a lot of fun.
they definitely are, as long as you have a team where everyone is on the same page with goals and expectations. Then it's a nice, relatively chill time
Okay, Yoshi-P, I better see Sin Eaters of the 7th Dawn next expansion.
Congratulations for beating some of the most difficult content in the game! As a reward, you get to tear up! :')
look at how easy this fight is and how good that editing is
nothing gets me like the chorus of "lmao ez fight" after clearing anything and everything xD
@@Ekoyuhale so ez i clear it twice daily before my morning bowel movement 😏
@@Dewkeeper lmao xD ez ez
Looked you up.
You've not cleared a single savage thus far.
@@richardshiflett5181 dude im literally in this video
Just cleared last night I couldn’t stop shaking after we did
This was awesome! Never done stuff above hard difficulty but this makes me dream
where there's a will, there's a way!
One day I hope to be able to do these Ultimates...one day...or at least Bahamut
big fan of Bahamut-sama
Bahamat did nothing wrong.
Everyone else watching the video.
Me: impressed by the 28 million gil
Bro...did Square Enix REALLY have to be even more sadistic in this challenging content? Not only are the mechanics making you stressed, but right at @2:50 we have to see our best friend take the spear and just WATCH as his health depletes...and there is NOTHING you can do about it because you're trying to keep your own team alive.
I'll take that over him dying in a transition I see every pull, which was my worst case guess but... all are pain ;-;
The whole fight is SE saying "LOOK THIS IS WHY HE HAD TO DIE" which is RUDE it didn't HAVE to go this badly!!!
I would love to see how they pull off these crazy stage changes mid fight on a technical level.
Considering the size of the arena itself doesn't really change, I assume they just re-texture the arena and the skybox as the fight progresses which would be relatively simple tech-wise.
Beautiful fight, wow, well done
Thank you! And really, the devs outdid themselves with this one. It was unfortunate that we had to worry about not dying instead of enjoying the spectacle in prog xD
@@Ekoyuhale That's what the video is for though! To see the marvels of the fight and your conquest without the stress and strain of focusing on rotation, mechanics positioning, timing and the overall rancor of everything mixed together, now you get to just enjoy the ecstasy of your accomplishment with your legs kicked up and a bucket of popcorn.
And so too do we~!
Thanks for Sharing :D
@@zuser absolutely! :3 relaxing DSR
damn you guys make this look easy... maybe someday I'll try out an ultimate but I don't think I'm there yet lol
Question:
Since this is an alternative time line, with both dragons killed and 4 eyes available, would that mean that Ilberd would summon an even more powerful dragon, assuming all 4 eyes survives this fight and he takes them all.
we actually discussed this a lot! Tbh our take is that the eyes were exhausted after this fight (given how the final cutscene goes - it seems pretty different as far as dragon deaths have gone). No shinryu means no omega, so we DON'T die to not having hraes to save us. Middy is awake and... we probably just steamroll zenos in rhalgr's tbh, because we had to powercreep a guy with four dragon eyes already by the time we see him... I will stop rambling but it's a lot of fun to think about!
...just don't think about how almost every single dragon you know and love is dead
@@Ekoyuhale "...just don't think about how almost every single dragon you know and love is dead"
Ilberd will be making a nice void baby with Vrtra's eyes.
@@Ekoyuhale Wait a minute... doesn't this mean Omega will not have anything to subdue it as it destroys anything inferior?
@@Razornuke if you go with the timeline where ilberd still summoned shinryu, then yeah we die after taking omega out and that's ggs world. If he never summons it though, we never turn omega on, ez game
@@cidolfusorlandeau7706 Tiamat would be the most likely choice for Illberd to kill since He wouldnt know where Vrtra is
It must've been really interesting when people progged this fight for the very first time. Like, I wonder how they felt when they realized that you did in fact have to show Thordan mercy?
half hour of insane mechs
theres no shot this guy clicks sprint lmao
been clicking sprint since HW, I am unstoppable
thordan ulted the music itself
he said let there be orchestra
Shit went DOWN
I really do hope they make more ultimate/savage fights with extra story contents like DSR! These are always fun to watch even if I'm not skillful enough to play them
Also just wondering, what if you dont spare Thordan in P5?
If you don't spare Thordan in P5, you die to the eyes after double dragons (no ghosts to let you hit them, no Thordan to eat them)
Safe to say this new ultimate coming soon will have new story angles
Since Hauchy ain’t dead, no ghostly spirit to help with the eye (remember you and Alphy saving Estinien? kind of like that) means they reform into Nidhogg and kill you.
With Thordan, he steals the exposed eyes after double dragon phase, and you can kill him in his super dragonking form.
So we are basically fighting against the entire Ishgardian Vatican? 😂
basically
👀 What a nice channel full of cool videos like this. I think I'll like, comment, and subscribe
This rendition of revenge Twofold is so damn good
HOLY, DRAGON KING FORM LOOKS BALLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what did we learn? no mercy for anyone.
that enrage gave me chills
I wish I had time to do an Ultimate. I barely have time to do Savage anymore.
I get it now! It's because the compassion of Haurchenfaut so we couldn't kill Thordan, that is why he came back and bit our ass
Hi! I was looking into making a video with King Thordan and this retelling of the dragonsong war. Can I use some clips of your video here? I’ll mark it’s from you and put the link in the description. Thanks! 😄
And you guys did AMAZING great job!!
yeah, with credit I don't mind. Thank you for asking!
@@Ekoyuhale thank you so much! It's up if you want to see it. Thanks again! :)
I noticed something interesting at the end of p2, at about 6:40. I notice at that part you're doing the aoe combo on single target. Am I correct in assuming that's to a) replenish MP/blood faster than the 1-2-3, and b) reduce dps on purpose to end thordan as close to his enrage as possible to try to buy time for CDs for P3/4?
correct on both counts
@@Ekoyuhale ty, good to note for whenever the heck my static gets to trying this fight out!
Hey I know this video is old but I am not familiar with DRK and am wondering why you are using AOE on single target sometimes?
it's because we're holding for certain phase timings, AoE regens resources faster, so it's basically me going "fk dps I just want mp/blood before this phase ends"
@@Ekoyuhale Mood. As a fellow tank, I can always understand fellow tanks just wanting resources last second, so out come the AOE combos xD
Wait, so how does phase 5 work? We save 'faunt's life, and I guess we twiddle our thumbs? Why? We know Thordan's intentions by this point, why don't we just go after him? How did Thordan get to Azyz Lla then? We clearly didn't fight Bismark in this timeline.
My best explanation is that we stood back to make sure Haurchefant was okay (not entirely out of character in all fairness)
I can only assume that the knights twelve took out Bismark in this version
I do agree that if we'd just chased Thordan down after making sure Haurchefant was good, we could probably have had our cake and eaten it too, but the goal was to have a spooky fight and explore avenues, so... fine! >:(
Beautiful
i love this clip no talk too much
Do you mind if I use your footage to make an extended video for Revenge Twofold's Orchestral Version?
Credit is given.
Sure!
as someone too scared to try even savage when its current, well done, i know this Ultimate was BRUTAL, just out of curiosity, would you say UCoB is a more friendly introduction to Ultimates?
UCoB is more friendly due to the powercreep trivialising many parts of it, but UwU is the most friendly. If you haven't done much current savage though, that will be the best practise you can give yourself for any of them.
@@Ekoyuhale thank you, i will attempt to get a group to try 😁
@@TheAuron32 a good group you enjoy running with definitely make all the difference!
@@Ekoyuhale i asked about UCoB mainly because of just how significant Bahamut is in not just FF14 but the franchise as a whole, it’s just too amazing to not want to clear.
I do have a group i think can pull it off.
Pst, save healer LB3 for the section with Haurchefant.
Why must Haurchefant die in this retelling? Wasn't this suppose to be an alternate timeline story? I've seen clips of teams saving him, but not sure the reason you wouldnt.
he is saved in the intermission at 10:22, and you have to save him to progress the fight. If you don't, it just loops back to first thordan phase. You cannot save him the first time, as you can't LB3 (only two LB bars in knights phase)
The fight tells the normal story, then the alternate version for the second half
@@Ekoyuhale oh I see! Thanks for the info. What an insane Ultimate to require figuring out what things to do, like not killing Thordan. Lol. Not at all like old Ults where you just do the dance.
@@TheIndigoEclipse Oh woke primals and enigma codex gave people a crazy run for their money when they were new, ngl. Thordan tells you to have mercy and the LB bars were a giveaway, so this one didn't throw people too bad. Was a good show as always though, ofc
I've been curious - what changes if you DON'T spare Thordan in P5? It's hard to find videos of it, but I assume Nidhogg & Hrae after can't be killed somehow?
I mentioned this briefly in another comment but essentially: you can and do kill Hraes and Niddy, but you don’t have the ghosts to help you in this timeline, so you end up in an unclearable eye phase.
More specifically, you get Ysayle’s buff (shiva powers), but not Haurchefant’s (not friendship ghost), and his was the one that let you hit the eye that heals, so that eye is unkillable. You could technically do the mechanics to kill the other eye and go through the phase, as which point you would hit eyes enrage, which is where they reform into full dragon Nidhogg, who is invulnerable and casts revenge of the horde again (fun fact: eyes enrage is the only time Primogenitor plays in the fight)
Remember the scene where you and Alph are pulling Nidhogg’s eyes out of Estinien’s armour? In this case Ysalye uses her shiva powers to help, but Hauchy’s spirit/encouragement isn’t there, so you get one eye down and lose anyway from the other one.
Thordan seems really pissed off lol
Well done - hard raid to complete :)
Amazing :3
why doe the Knights sound like demons from SMT V?
I mean, I know Square Enix appreciates Christianity to the same extent that Atlus does, but that doesn't mean they need to steal friggin' vocal effects too.
XD
Doesn't it really annoy anyone else that "king" is lowercase in Dragon-king Thordan? God it looks so wrong. They should have named him Dragon-King Thordan or even Dragonking Thordan! At least that last one doesn't look nowhere near as bad.
agreed. i prefer this than the omega ultimate.
Great video! Mind if I ask what's your fps?
I play at 120, recording is at 60
@@Ekoyuhale Thanks! It seems pretty smooth and well above 60 by the looks of it. I have a 3080 build and for some reason it never really reaches 120… any thoughts or recommendations?
@@stephencao6135 it could be a CPU issue depending on age, mine is ~4years old though (Intel i7-9700k). As for FFXIV specifically, it tends to be well optimised. Make sure GPU drivers are updated, sometimes there's a bad apple release and you could be accidentally sitting on it.
Double check that you aren't using an in-game frame limiter, because FF's is historically full of problems that loses you frames. Use Rivastatistics tuner if you need to limit FPS. For example, my game WILL hit 144 FPS, but it varies down to the mid 120s, so I capped it there so I never have to look at frame fluctuations xD
I have everything thrown on ultra, but there are some options that impact more than others, one being parallex occlusion (the bumpy ground, generally), and the next being real time reflections.
If it's none of those things, I would double check what's actually going on per core on the processor, try taking FF off of the first core if it's sitting there (set affinity), and you can try making it a higher priority process to confirm if something else running is the issue
/long comment
@@Ekoyuhale hey thanks for the long comment. I really appreciate you taking the time typing those out.
I’m using an I7-12700K, the entire system is newly built about a month ago and I didn’t see any problem with the cores or other running components :/
I have most settings thrown on Ultra (running 2K) and limiting my in game FPS at 144hz (I have a 4K 144hz monitor). Haven’t tried running it at 1080P but running at 4K lowered my avg FPS by another 20 or so.
Such a weird feeling that my hardwares should allow me to hit 144 at 2k but the reality is only around 100.
@@stephencao6135 Are you limiting it with FFXIV's in-game limiter? if you are, turn it off completely ("None") and use RTSS (riva statistics tuner) instead if you still want to limit it (or other options, that's just what I use). Losing FPS to XIV's limiter is a persistent issue, it's the main reason everyone complained until they added the none option back when they tried to force it
かっこいいね。これはHEAVENSLEGENDを名乗るに相応しい。
I don’t play these contents, but why do DRK get the DP and not DPS?
in openers, DRK actually out dpses the DPS, so it's optimal to put dance partner on them. If it's on me outside of openers... dancer forgot
How many attempts?
1845 LOL. It can be done in FAR less with better consistency, it was a struggle until some talks
@@Ekoyuhale I saw the 150+ page guide and noped out of attempts.
I respect the grind.
@@SadBirbHours oh goodness. I can't say I've ever seen the guide, but that sounds horrific
*heavensward simp noises*
The music tho
Caelid?
This is in Endwalker?
yes
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I wish there was a normal version of this, people like me never have and most likely never will do an ultimate
That makes no sense.
@@ETIENNELIVE can you read?
there is a normal version of this. is called the following. the vault dungeon,nidhogg extreme fight. and the trial with thordan. ultimates are not meant to have "normal version" they are MEANT to be the hardest content out there for people who wish to push their limits. this is not for everyone.
@@SuguSugux there is absolutely no normal version of this, idk what game you’re playing. Why put such an interesting fight in the game and only a small percentage of player will ever do it? Makes no sense, there should be an easier version with less rewards and easier mechanics.
@@kingrushy4533 there's not so quit whining about it
I don't remember this when I was Birb farming 🤔