Wow, I Completely Hate Ahab Now | Limbus Company

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  • Well this is it, the second to last video for Canto 5... It has been... A Journey to say the least. This chapter went really hard and I cannot wait to fully cover it in my analysis video. But I can say this much, Canto 5 is peak.
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  • @Tsunul
    @Tsunul  7 місяців тому +180

    My perspective on this fights changed a lil. It's good lore wise and Ahab just said you need to sacrifice to achieve your goals. I just didn't like it cuz I couldn't find the passive saying that, main reason behind, I can't read. Also the Canto 5 analysis should be out on Wednesday, if not then definitely Thursday.

    • @mementojunior
      @mementojunior 7 місяців тому +53

      Quee pulling every skill towards her isn't part of a passive. It was actually one of the skill effects on the counter

    • @lustynairu
      @lustynairu 7 місяців тому

      PM fans are truly illiterate :3

    • @user-longdog
      @user-longdog 7 місяців тому +52

      The skill pulling bit is not a passive, but a "state" activated by one of Ahab's defensive skills.

    • @jaycobhughes3932
      @jaycobhughes3932 7 місяців тому +40

      oopf, i saw you check the passives so many times and each time i was like... THE SKILLS MAN, READ THE SKILLLLS, good to see someone else got taken for a ride by the focusing though,sidenote, nice job beating the non-mega nerfed version by pure luck lol, if ahab had taken out sinclair or ryu youd have been in big trouble,

    • @smugofbishamonten1447
      @smugofbishamonten1447 7 місяців тому +3

      The "pequod jumping" is still annoying tho

  • @Welvader
    @Welvader 7 місяців тому +478

    Gotta love that anytime Project Moon writes a grandma character, there's always 2 things you can be certain of:
    1. They are among the most powerful beings in The City
    2. They have committed atleast 27 different warcrimes

    • @Ardourieux
      @Ardourieux 7 місяців тому +142

      Fear the old in a profession where you die young.

    • @arthurgomes5188
      @arthurgomes5188 7 місяців тому +1

      And are on their way to comit 27 worse war crimes.

    • @darkmodeenjoyer3367
      @darkmodeenjoyer3367 7 місяців тому +28

      Or both

    • @edumanz5044
      @edumanz5044 7 місяців тому +6

      Who was Roland grandma?

    • @hellatze
      @hellatze 7 місяців тому +10

      Hag love.

  • @0riginal_zer030
    @0riginal_zer030 7 місяців тому +226

    I really like how this Canto makes use of a common metaphor of the White Whale (God, or something similarly divine) and takes it in two drastically different directions.
    Both Ahab and the Indigo Elder see it as an eldritch, almost divine force. But the Elder treats the Whale with reverence and respect, believing that challenging it will elevate him to greater heights. Meanwhile, Ahab chooses to blame all the world's evils on it and sees the hunt as a holy crusade against evil and therefore, everything she does in the name of killing it is morally justified.
    Seeing the clash between two different interpretations of the concept of God (a revered being vs a glorified scapegoat) in this Canto is very compelling.

  • @ixtiander999
    @ixtiander999 7 місяців тому +303

    I don't think Ahab was hiding who the Mermaid was from the crew, everyone saw Stubb get hit and they knew he'll turn. She just once again dragged everyone into a bout of collective insanity where they all kept acting as if he'll be waiting for them back in the port despite KNOWING he's the mermaid locked down in their hold.

    • @generalgarchomp333
      @generalgarchomp333 7 місяців тому +85

      Gaslighting at it's finest lmao.

    • @DuyroZeppeli
      @DuyroZeppeli 7 місяців тому +52

      Earlier in the dungeon there was a flashback where Pip said he knew the mermaid was Stubb so my guess is that she gaslit them into thinking he would be able to turn back to human somehow and have a toast with the crew at the port after the hunt is over.

    • @tepig2828
      @tepig2828 7 місяців тому +30

      Classic cult leader mentality.
      After all, it’s not a horrors from the sea story without a cult

  • @goncalobrito1509
    @goncalobrito1509 7 місяців тому +141

    The original Ahab was out to hunt Moby Dick because he lost his leg to it. This Ahab is also lacking a leg, so it may simply just be the reason why she went after the Pallid Whale.

  • @duykhangtran4406
    @duykhangtran4406 7 місяців тому +128

    So funny thing about the Dream Devouring Slitcurrent... according to the observation log, Don after given the task of observing this mf tried to approach and pet it, leading to Dante experiencing getting drowned 12 times at the same time

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому +29

      No, because I think it's pretty cute too. Don is just like me fr 😭😂

  • @c.f.6571
    @c.f.6571 7 місяців тому +275

    You couldn’t attack Ahab because of her defense order, although it’s not explained in her passives it’s explained on the enemy skills.

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +63

      This was trully a pm fan not reading moment

    • @Huntingthesun
      @Huntingthesun 7 місяців тому

      ​@@funninoriginal6054fr 💀

  • @user-mm3kl9tg2j
    @user-mm3kl9tg2j 7 місяців тому +66

    it's interesting to think about the fact that ahab's crew is basically a bunch of mermaids, to the point even the whale they're inside doesn't overtake them because of ahab being the whale that controls them, they've been consumed by her absolute insanity

  • @necrozmatheprism1110
    @necrozmatheprism1110 7 місяців тому +183

    At first, I didn't understand why Ahab made Pip cut the vein and the other things leading to the people dying but I understand after watching this now. Her "blind obsession" with killing the Pallid Whale lead to the point where she had the mentality of "only I am allowed to kill it, only I!" which makes her intentionally kill those other disposable as she calls them since she doesn't want them to steal the kill.

    • @blindeyedblightmain3565
      @blindeyedblightmain3565 7 місяців тому +75

      Not really, it was mostly due to Ahab having to keep up the pace, morale and dealing with uncertainty of traveling inside a whale. Most of the people who fell from the bridge already were too slow to keep up, meaning their palidification progressed too far for them to be useful.

    • @ss-ol5br
      @ss-ol5br 7 місяців тому +17

      Needing a universe where indigo elder kill the whale before ahab. That be the funniest shit

    • @IchCharacter
      @IchCharacter 5 місяців тому +4

      @@ss-ol5br From what we saw, he probably wouldn't have succeeded without help from the inside. Even if he had managed to significantly wound the Whale, it could have just disengaged and regenerated, unless the heart was destroyed. He only managed to penetrate to that point after Ishmael had already destroyed the heart, effectively ending the fight, so he either didn't know where it was located or was unable to get a hit on it due to Mermaids (which were mostly distracted by Ahab and crew) or the Whale's resistance. Ahab herself was the most knowledgeable about the Whale and probably concluded before being swallowed that it could only be destroyed from the inside, this also explains why she sailed in there laughing, seemingly without a plan. Getting inside with her crew was the plan if she already had her E.G.O, her crew was the ammunition she needed to take it down.

  • @arthurgomes5188
    @arthurgomes5188 7 місяців тому +67

    Alternate title for the video: *Local grandma has her anime villain moment, EVERYONE suffers as a result of that*

  • @jarritostf2188
    @jarritostf2188 7 місяців тому +219

    I fucking love Ahab. Legit probably my fav character outside of the sinners themselves.
    A manic egomaniac that's driven by one desire and does not give a FLYING fuck about who she has to fuck over to fulfill it. Her EGO basically traps the souls of her fallen crewmates and CONTINUES to use and abuse them post-death till their very essence is used up or destroyed.
    All the while, she physically cannot see what it wrong with her actions despite actively knowing that they're fucked up. The closing fight is so well done with her flipping everything back onto Ishmael, and actually making sense about it, but twisting it just enough that she herself has no fault in the matter. Not because she's guilty and doesn't want to come to terms with it or some stupid shit like that, but because to her she actually has no fault in what happened.
    The amount of cathartic tension she creates just by existing is something I haven't felt in a villain in fucking forever. These modern age pussies are all about being tragic and relatable. Nah, give me a good old fashioned villain that does evil shit because that's what they want to do. Give them honest motives, but don't turn them remotely sympathetic.

    • @Beepers559
      @Beepers559 7 місяців тому

      She’s pretty much the definition of egomania and narcissism wrapped up in a bundle of obsession to lower the local cetacean population

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +40

      That's how Ahab is, both in Limbus and in the original Moby Dick story.
      They're both characters who can't feel guilt or shame about their actions, because they're above that. Book Ahab even holds a grudge against anything considered above him, at one point saying “Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I’d strike the sun if it insulted me"
      I fucking adore the limbus version of Ahab for being so true to the essence of the original character, and i adore your comment for pointing it out.

    • @jarritostf2188
      @jarritostf2188 7 місяців тому +4

      @@funninoriginal6054 yessir. Ik a lot of people rag on Moby Dick for being too slow, but I loved it growing up.

    • @Error-hx9ze
      @Error-hx9ze 7 місяців тому +8

      @@jarritostf2188 I like just how over the top ishmael is when he starts spending like 40 page to compare every detail of the whale to a deity and just how insane ahab become near the end of the story but i think people dont like it cuz its not just purely plot

    • @thefrostbite1135
      @thefrostbite1135 7 місяців тому +3

      Can I point out the fight you're talking about isn't in this video and is kinda spoilers

  • @Rowantg
    @Rowantg 7 місяців тому +107

    The only example better than a great example is a bad example, and as far as leaders Dante has confronted on this trip, Ahab has certainly taught Dante a valuable lesson in leadership.
    Don’t be a gaslighting asshole.
    Good job, Dante.

  • @plinfan6541
    @plinfan6541 7 місяців тому +147

    Shout-out to Dante finally stepping up for themself.
    Also the Unpatched Ahab team fight. PM really said "Oh you like pressing Win-rate for the clashes all the time. Screw you then (unclashes all the Clashes)"

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +26

      Ahab really said "It's Ahabing time!!!" Before ahabing all around your clashes

    • @Delmworks
      @Delmworks 7 місяців тому

      As a win-rate enjoyer....that's a glitch? I thought it was honest-to-god a mechanic

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +9

      @@Delmworks
      It's intentional, it just dosen't appear as an status effect on the characters.

    • @lvadimass
      @lvadimass 7 місяців тому +9

      @@funninoriginal6054
      it's on the queeqeegs counter

    • @gumebe4349
      @gumebe4349 5 місяців тому +1

      Bit late but what happens is that Ahab uses a specific defense skill that triggers Queeqeg's aggro mechanic. It makes it so she can wail one sinner unopposed while Queeqeg sucks up all the damage.

  • @tepig2828
    @tepig2828 7 місяців тому +32

    The reason Dream Devouring Siltcurrent destroyed you is because it has funny sinking deluge on a 4 coin skill that inflicts a bunch of sinking

  • @protege6383
    @protege6383 7 місяців тому +53

    Bro I love when Tsunul just shows off how he literally cannot read like you need to look at their skill coins too 😭

    • @SenorFluffy
      @SenorFluffy 6 місяців тому +14

      Most literate PM fan

  • @cyz3566
    @cyz3566 7 місяців тому +383

    Dante has been peak this entire Canto, especially when he directly calls Ahab out on her BS. I am so proud of how far he’s come.

    • @GlueEater-ix9gl
      @GlueEater-ix9gl 7 місяців тому +53

      i am glad to see them grow into their own role

    • @dimyell
      @dimyell 7 місяців тому +33

      'Hey! His pronouns are they/them!'

    • @Lorekeeperhaos
      @Lorekeeperhaos 7 місяців тому +56

      Happy to see the gradual confidence building, though worried about the self-preservation dropping and what looks to be building up to a breakdown from earlier in the chapter.
      Hoping that doesn't happen too soon though.

    • @themetalmario77
      @themetalmario77 7 місяців тому +53

      Dante midway through the canto: "Yikes! Ouch! Shuckaroonies!"
      Dante near the end of the canto:
      🔥✍️

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +1

      Dante outright tells Alfonso, the HEAD of a WING, to shove it up her ass in the last canto. Our clock boy can be a savage at times.

  • @kerokou1956
    @kerokou1956 7 місяців тому +65

    Out of all the abnos so far, I gotta say that Dream-devouring Siltcurrent is currently my favorite for how it moves and attacks

    • @mauriciomeireles1210
      @mauriciomeireles1210 7 місяців тому +14

      And its ego is also cool af

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, it's currently my favourite because it's cool and has nice mechanic

  • @justanotherviewer9643
    @justanotherviewer9643 7 місяців тому +51

    I have to say Project Moon really has a talent for writing villains and antagonists.

  • @dersylvio3088
    @dersylvio3088 7 місяців тому +29

    You can say the entire crew got stockholm-syndrome from being trapped with Ahab on her her ship for waaayyyyy to long, until they all gave up and said: "Whatever the captain says goes ..."

  • @Did_No_Wrong
    @Did_No_Wrong 7 місяців тому +58

    For those wondering why you can't target Ahab midway in the Team battle QueeQueg uses a defense and counter skill that makes it so that all skills aiming for Ahab are instead redirected to her, If u want to kill Ahab fast in this fight its best to quickly target and either Stagger or kill QueeQueg 1st while having 1 sinner clash with StarBuck to avoid getting hit with a 5 coin attack and ignore Ahab.

    • @AlphaAceEX
      @AlphaAceEX 7 місяців тому +4

      Just kill starbuck first to avoid dying, tanking ahab is fairly eay with tanks, just redirect it with prey mark

  • @izzymosley1970
    @izzymosley1970 7 місяців тому +42

    I think it's really interesting seeing Dante develop as the sinners also develop.

  • @kurovah5475
    @kurovah5475 7 місяців тому +90

    Eventually Dante is going to get enough confidence to deck Vergilius in the face. (Which I really want to see happen at least once)

    • @mr.raphael1507
      @mr.raphael1507 7 місяців тому +26

      With all the theories of Dante becoming a traitor, I wouldn’t be surprised if he became a traitor to Limbus Company. That would explain how to work Outis’ traitor plot line with her staying loyal to the Company

    • @fbhnied
      @fbhnied 7 місяців тому +2

      @@mr.raphael1507 i'm sorry, can you elaborate further? I'm kinda confused as how you wording it

    • @mr.raphael1507
      @mr.raphael1507 7 місяців тому +21

      @@fbhnied I’m talking about Dante betraying Limbus Company with the sinners apart from Outis. With Outis staying loyal to Limbus Company, she will “betray” the sinners

    • @fbhnied
      @fbhnied 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mr.raphael1507 ahh, i understand now. Thanks!

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому

      Dante after getting memory be like:

  • @TwinAero
    @TwinAero 7 місяців тому +15

    I interpreted the pip cutting scene as Ahab seeing that her hold on the crew was wavering because they were turning into mermaids so she'd rather kill everyone than risk being undermined.

  • @oatmeal3919
    @oatmeal3919 7 місяців тому +75

    Regarding the triple boss fight: Ahab is much less durable than Queequeg and the battle is won as long as Ahab is defeated, even if Queequeg and Starbuck remain alive. Also, from what I recall, staggering Ahab prevents her from becoming untargetable. Lastly, Tank ID's can soak up lots of unopposed hits from her.

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +14

      Starbuck also is less durable than both and he hits quite hard, so the prefered order you need to knock them out in is likelly Starbuck > Ahab

    • @nathanielandre2568
      @nathanielandre2568 7 місяців тому

      I got hit with so much Sinking reading this. I really didn't have to kill all three? I lost HOURS.

    • @daboss4318
      @daboss4318 7 місяців тому

      I dont really remember pierce resistant tanks. N meursalt maybe?But he has no aggro

    • @oatmeal3919
      @oatmeal3919 7 місяців тому +1

      @@daboss4318 I brought N Meursault. He does have Aggro at Uptie 4, on all three skills.
      Edit: There's also K corp Hong Lu. Near immortal, and also pierce resistant.

    • @daboss4318
      @daboss4318 7 місяців тому

      @@oatmeal3919 Okay i thought klu resists blunt, then its not so bad as i thought. I still dread days when the crew will appear at mirror dungeons, starbuck 5 coin skill will be nightmare to clash with

  • @keyofvoid1787
    @keyofvoid1787 7 місяців тому +36

    I interpreted that Mermaids can convert other people into mermaids, a la zombie, and it just happened by chance that the mermaid they had captured to use as compass escaped (or maybe they never captured one and a random mermaid tried to attack Pip), tried to bite Pip, who was saved by Stubb.

  • @tigerwolf9
    @tigerwolf9 7 місяців тому +75

    It really hurts to watch you glance over every skill and special effect that explains what’s happening dismissing it completely

    • @DeltafangEX
      @DeltafangEX 7 місяців тому +13

      Typical NA reading experience, honestly 😂

    • @ixtiander999
      @ixtiander999 7 місяців тому +38

      But how can we the viewers get the true ProjectMoon game experience if the person playing starts actually reading enemy abilities?

    • @WiseViper39
      @WiseViper39 7 місяців тому

      ⁠@@ixtiander999The cycle is simple
      Unga Bunga > Get fucked > “Oh shit” and read > get fucked again > strategize > win >back to Unga Bunga

  • @GlueEater-ix9gl
    @GlueEater-ix9gl 7 місяців тому +87

    ahab is a profesional gaslighter , dare i say a competitive gaslighter

    • @Catterjeeo
      @Catterjeeo 6 місяців тому +3

      Crimson 1 is that you?

  • @hurricanelily_ja
    @hurricanelily_ja 7 місяців тому +47

    The moment of realisation that the long-haired Ishmael and Ahab look very alike 😂 The captain's identity will suit her well just like the Sinclair that couldn't
    Also, love her, or hate her, but that's some E.G.O. mindset over here 42:12

    • @mauriciomeireles1210
      @mauriciomeireles1210 7 місяців тому +7

      I still have a mind canon that Ahab has some kind of mental EGO that corrodes people will and that she just might not be aware of that, meaning she wasnt at her strongest in this canto

    • @hurricanelily_ja
      @hurricanelily_ja 7 місяців тому +4

      @@mauriciomeireles1210 now that you said that, this sounds awful lot like the effect Carmen had on people around her. One doesn't wander the backstreets unprotected

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +14

      ​@@mauriciomeireles1210
      It's kinda the opposite, actually. Ahab's willpower and charisma is so absolutely strong that they were the basis for her EGO, Gasharpoon, which are those qualities manifested.

    • @IchCharacter
      @IchCharacter 5 місяців тому +2

      @@mauriciomeireles1210 I'd rather argue that her E.G.O allowed her to save those who had faith in her from pallidification, it's the only thing I could see making a difference and only the people who were unquestioningly loyal to Ahab were spared from pallidification. There was no golden bough involved before and nothing else that could reasonably stop it. Her E.G.O seems to need that loyalty to function as well, otherwise she could have simply used all of the people in Pequod Town or even the Sinners themselves as ammunition. Could just be a gameplay thing as well, obviously, but I think it makes sense. Ahab's obsession and her very self and world revolves about her faith that her declaring something makes it so.
      I'd also doubt she was at her strongest, but rather because she was apparently more obsessed with pushing Ishmael to the point of becoming just like her than killing the whale. She could have just harpooned the heart herself the entire fight, but she was more focused on Ishmael instead, flat out ignoring the beating heart of her supposedly mortal obsession. Would have made more sense if there had been some sort of barrier she couldn't cross without the part of a golden bough stuck in Dante's clock, but there was nothing like that. I can only conclude that she was more obsessed with messing with Ishmael than killing the whale, since a fight with the Sinners was way more risky than not having that piece of a golden bough when the whale was apparently defenseless. Can't wait for Ahab to realise that the real obsession was the enemies we made along the way.

    • @gumebe4349
      @gumebe4349 5 місяців тому +1

      This aged like fine wine

  • @tcherlesonravel9117
    @tcherlesonravel9117 7 місяців тому +13

    You know, hearing Ahab words I just remembered Hokma, He has faith, but is never blinded by it, he even said that his faith is diferent from the faith of a Lunatic, since for them what they believe is never wrong, and clearly Ahab is on this side of faith to the point were I was questioning how she didn't manifested EGO yet.

  • @zetroll0372
    @zetroll0372 7 місяців тому +16

    43:00 can't wait for Dante's past to be some pre-amnesia Doctor's level of ruthlessness.

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому +5

      I mean, Dante becomes cold and focus on the journey in Dante Inferno. He definitely changes after getting their memory.

    • @theresnothinghere1745
      @theresnothinghere1745 3 місяці тому +2

      Just look at Dante's dialogue at the very start of the game before he's fully lost his memories.
      It doesn't really paint him in a good light.

  • @roowdy6721
    @roowdy6721 7 місяців тому +15

    The lesson for today: If it's not in the passives, it's in the skills

  • @bentobias737
    @bentobias737 7 місяців тому +16

    You can view the coin values as unaffected by paralysis from the summary screen where you can see passives and read all an abno’s skills.
    It is also where you can see what’s going on with the trio bossfight.

  • @RaffiP
    @RaffiP 7 місяців тому +28

    I wouldn't worry too much about Queequeg's name pronounciation. Everyone's VA's are all korean with korean accents, so the pronunciation is subjective.

    • @delirare
      @delirare 7 місяців тому +12

      I'm literally pronouncing that name as "Qui-queg"

  • @calebtesfaye3925
    @calebtesfaye3925 7 місяців тому +15

    Well now you know EXACTLY why Ishmael absolutely hates Ahab with a burning passion.

  • @JARGUN145
    @JARGUN145 7 місяців тому +14

    Queequeg redirects all attack to teammates to her. Basically Aggro, you are forced to target her so you could also stagger her the turn before to prevent it. Also it has infinite attack weight because some reason, High priority, kill first.

  • @blackrazor1000
    @blackrazor1000 7 місяців тому +19

    In case anyone doesn't know how the 3 man fight is supposed to work, you need to check the skills as assist defense and assist attack only show up in the skill section. Bascially, Starbuck and Queequeg have "infinite" attack weight and will redirect any attack towards themselves.....unless you stagger/kill them. Focus on Starbuck first, then nuke Queequeg with blunt. Finally take care of Ahab.

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 7 місяців тому +6

      Actually, the battle is won as soon as you kill Ahab and she has waaaaaaay less HP than Queequeg, so doubling down on her after nuking Starbuck is way better.

  • @Garsemor
    @Garsemor 7 місяців тому +21

    Ahab's fight here is PAIN! Basically, when you clash with her skill that "marks prey" Queequeg will force all attacks to be riderrected away from the captain, and Starbuck will do followup attacks to the captain's attacks with the captain targetting whoever was inflicted with "mark prey", which in a lot of cases is just instant death for that person.
    Only way to get around this is to either stagger Queequeg on the turn that Ahab is doing her thing so that you can take over OR to stagger the captain the same turn she is doing "mark prey" so that she can't do her crazy 3 attack nuke the following turn.
    I was running a tremmor setup and it was missery cause so many of my sinners were ultra vurnerable to basically eveything in this fight and I could do bugger all to Queequeg damage wise, so it very much turned into game of strategic staggers and choosing when to just sacrifice someone to take a hit (or die) and by the last two-three turns of the fight I was just making my sinners brute force their way trough with back to back to back distortions and hoping that it works out. XD
    First time this game made me embrace turning the fight into a chaotic slugfest.

    • @onesdemise1122
      @onesdemise1122 7 місяців тому +2

      Ahab also has a skill called to me which causes Queequeg to pull all of the attacks Ahab would've taken

  • @HateIsJustice
    @HateIsJustice 7 місяців тому +10

    Throwing Outis at the 75% bonus damage Blind Obsession and then a moment later hearing "That killed her?" got to me lol. Especially with hearing "Just a Defense Skill" during the Ahab fight. Honestly, even with knowing how it worked, that was a bitch of a mechanic to deal with. Especially when the shield doesn't appear on the overall HP bar and only the 'Part' HP bar...

  • @lyonisgrado
    @lyonisgrado 7 місяців тому +11

    It's nice to see Dante getting character growth.
    The Ahab, Starbuck, and Queequeg fight sure was rough. My first try I got trashed by Ahab's one sided attacks and Starbuck's surprising offensive capabilities because I spread my attacks too thin, and that stupid redirect Queequeg had. Second try went better, but I made the mistake of trying to kill Queequeg only for her to revive with half her HP and gave up on this 20-30 minute fight after realizing why that happened and I didn't have the Sinners left to continue. The third attempt went comparatively better because it registered that Queequeg's 1000 HP +500 revive Vs. Ahab's 450 HP was the game designer's way of telling me to ignore Queequeg once Starbuck was dead and kill Ahab during turns where the redirect is gone.
    I dread to think of what it will be like to get some of these fights in Mirror Dungeon 3 if they show up. Imagine how much damage Ahab would do with her free one sided attacks fueled by Mirror Dungeon enemy buffs. The stuff of nightmares.

  • @Averageshitpostenjoyer
    @Averageshitpostenjoyer 7 місяців тому +13

    Stll trying to decide whether ahab or kromer was more mentally insane, because on one hand, ahab is inanely good at gaslighting. On the other hand, Kromer, enough said

    • @ss-ol5br
      @ss-ol5br 7 місяців тому +2

      Either way they both have weird obsession

    • @Garmond_Zaza_Fan
      @Garmond_Zaza_Fan 6 місяців тому

      @@ss-ol5br you could say they both have a blind obsession

    • @ss-ol5br
      @ss-ol5br 6 місяців тому

      @@Garmond_Zaza_Fan one obsesses with a whale and one is a twink

  • @chris.pbacon7949
    @chris.pbacon7949 7 місяців тому +15

    I think post-nerf it's a cool fight, but you have to actually read the skills. Though I think most people would read a skill's text after witnessing it redirecting all your attacks like some kind of pain magnet. Insert PM fans can't read meme here otherwise. Before the nerf they were just murder machines.

  • @animosity2100
    @animosity2100 7 місяців тому +12

    Ahab: The Green Gaslighter

  • @theolanderdilag3872
    @theolanderdilag3872 7 місяців тому +9

    tbf, Ahab in the original novel was more of a dick than the whale he/she was supposed to hunt in the first place trying to be obsessed about it
    PM just made everyone super greyish black in moral standards (as if it weren't already in the first place)

  • @nathanielandre2568
    @nathanielandre2568 7 місяців тому +10

    Bro I really have to learn how to strategize in this game.
    That second to last fight took TOO many tries and even THEN it was RNJesus that got me the win.

  • @jacobm3445
    @jacobm3445 7 місяців тому +12

    When I saw Ahab speech I just knew Ahab must either already have ego or was going to awaken EGO.
    I think Ahab might be the best antagonist we have face so far in Limbus.

  • @user-fb7zv7zu2y
    @user-fb7zv7zu2y 7 місяців тому +6

    Some things to note for pequod crew fight:
    1. The turn before Ahab becomes unclashable she will target one person with a mark skill so you can pick a target for her onslaught (like someone with high pierce res)
    2. Ahab does her unclashable attacks 2 turns in a row but you can lower that to 1 turn by breaking Queequeg's shield when she is in her defense mode
    3. Heard this from someone but as a strat you can leave Starbuck alive so that you can clash evade against his die so that the targeted sinner can dodge Ahab

  • @GreenestLegion
    @GreenestLegion 7 місяців тому +9

    The thing that prevents you targeting Ahab is Queequeg's counter skill. It also gives her a bunch of buffer hp.

  • @Eckef
    @Eckef 7 місяців тому +7

    My guy, you read everything EXCEPT for the important part on that fight - Assist Barrier

  • @mauriciomeireles1210
    @mauriciomeireles1210 7 місяців тому +8

    37:05 i mean after ALL the shit Dante saw and after being able to help yi san get his wings... Ahab is dangerous yes but not the most dangerous thing they faced

    • @ss-ol5br
      @ss-ol5br 7 місяців тому +1

      The dangerous thing would be Vergil /jk

  • @dap6386
    @dap6386 7 місяців тому +15

    It turns out you only needed to kill Ahab. My pain when I found out

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому

      I mean, it's hard to kill her when the others exist

  • @mumeisapostleiforgorwhatnu3207
    @mumeisapostleiforgorwhatnu3207 7 місяців тому +6

    You kinda did it right with the Ahab fight. Yeah.
    After I finished the chapter, I retried it and it's easier to use IDs that can tank pierce while still having a few Blunt IDs to deal with Queequeg. You can easily destroy Starbuck with either R corp Heath, W Sang, or Molar Ishmael

  • @Did_No_Wrong
    @Did_No_Wrong 7 місяців тому +7

    No cap, but I basically ignored the Blind Obsessions boss Mechanics because I was was running a full Burn Liu Association team combined with the Burn EGO gift you get from the previous every turn it was suffering 99 burn damage to each body part.

  • @user-lq3vw6qd6m
    @user-lq3vw6qd6m 7 місяців тому +11

    I think whatever reason Ahab had to kill the whale was lost along the way and forgoted. And now all that is left is het abnormal obsession over killing it

    • @_chirp_6108
      @_chirp_6108 7 місяців тому +1

      Moby Dick Ahab lost his leg to the whale and that is why he wanted to kill it
      I wonder what this Ahab's true reason is

    • @IchCharacter
      @IchCharacter 5 місяців тому

      Not even that, she seemed more obsessed with getting Ishmael to become just like her, forgoing the option of destroying the apparently defenseless heart of the whale and instead engaging in a way riskier fight against the Sinners over some flimsy excuse that she didn't want to risk anything and needed the part of a golden bough stuck in Dante's clock. Again, this fight was way riskier and entirely unnecessary, if her goal was actually killing the whale.
      And if this Ahab is anything like the Ahab from the book, the whale daring to bite her was all the justification she needed, basically seeing herself as a god. To quote Ahab from the book: "Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I’d strike the sun if it insulted me." If the Head had somehow insulted her, she would have gone after the Head and all the Arbiters, just because she's Ahab and no one messes with Ahab. She just doesn't give a damn, she also took in Queequeg, despite that probably causing her quite some trouble with the Middle. Ahab is beyond such petty human concerns, mess with Ahab and you'll wish you had been put in the Book of Vengeance instead. Letting Ahab live will come back to bite Ishmael's behind clean off, if Ahab here is anything like the Ahab in the book.

  • @ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028
    @ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 7 місяців тому +6

    Tsunul is not beating the illiteracy allegations 😭
    Bro still has not learnt that you should always check the description of a boss' defense skills 💀

  • @Axogodtl
    @Axogodtl 7 місяців тому +4

    I got through the fight with no death, although it was not nearly close to my first try. Nuked down starbuck, made sure to clash with a ID that could survive Ahab's attacks with the move that targets, then desperately broke through QQs shield. Even with all that, it was still insanely hard.

  • @Ysevetyfive
    @Ysevetyfive 7 місяців тому +3

    It took me a bit to get her aggro mechanic too, no idea how i played around it on my second attempt but it probably had to do with most of my team being pierce ineffective (and using Yi Sang Sunshower) so her one sided attacks did basically no damage most of the time and i staggered Queequeg on the first turn of her defending so i was able to nuke her down fast enough to almost avoid the second guard phase entirely. Probably didn't quite play that correctly either but it worked.
    But they ABSOLUTELY needed to make that mechanic more clear, like have them gain the statuses immediately instead of only showing up in her counter skill's description. But otherwise a pretty cool fight.
    Also Dream-Devouring Siltcurrent is almost definitely an aberration of Dreaming Current, they're similar sea creatures (a shark and probably an orca) with overly large jaws, they both charge very quickly, and it literally has both "Dream" and "Current" in it's name. Super cool to see more aberrations in mainline media.

  • @danielisnotafluid4175
    @danielisnotafluid4175 7 місяців тому +8

    Dante is actually my goat fr. Love to see them get more confident and assertive as the story progresses.

  • @some_randomguy08
    @some_randomguy08 7 місяців тому +6

    I know pmoon fans dont read, but it physically hurt when you didnt relise what ahabs skills did.

  • @kenjidayan7579
    @kenjidayan7579 7 місяців тому +2

    Ahab: Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

  • @leifmochi5082
    @leifmochi5082 7 місяців тому +9

    Tsunul favourite femboy saves the day once again

  • @Quantum1244
    @Quantum1244 7 місяців тому +2

    Tsunul when he doesn’t read the attack/defense skill

  • @shyer__hye
    @shyer__hye 2 місяці тому

    the arc, the character, the voice actings... amazing
    gives me chills

  • @bluerationality
    @bluerationality 7 місяців тому +3

    Queequeg has a skill like some RPGs or Card games have pulling all damage towards her while getting barrier. Also the prior turn one of Ahab's attacks decides who is getting bodied. First try I got murdered by targeting Starbuck like you did. Second I did it by targeting QQ while just clashing other attacks, and let Flower Yisang tank Ahab's first rampage. After that I think it was Rodion tanking next hit, befoe staggering and retiring QQ. In the end I lost nobody.

  • @edumanz5044
    @edumanz5044 7 місяців тому +2

    Tsunul read skills on Qeeqeng

  • @notmitsukiyolol
    @notmitsukiyolol 7 місяців тому +1

    19:57 Tsunul… embracing the Simpclair within you now, eh?

  • @czsgenesis
    @czsgenesis 7 місяців тому +2

    when all your skills are getting pulled to a specific slot, it might be wise to read the skill that is in said slot

  • @legromp6102
    @legromp6102 7 місяців тому +1

    ah yes, reading, the true entity from which all evil sprouts. It is our duty as Managers to overcome it

  • @gameboom7579
    @gameboom7579 7 місяців тому +1

    The easiest way to do the pequad trio (from what ive seen and done) is to instantly nuke starbuck for a turn 1 stagger, then turn 2 kill, then lay into quee, then finish ahab

  • @user-db9md3qp9c
    @user-db9md3qp9c 7 місяців тому +1

    8:15 funny thing, I went with K corp Hong Lu and he had a bonus which guaranteed the success of the surgery. might be like a lccb sinner bonus with crate check

  • @BuckBlaziken
    @BuckBlaziken 3 місяці тому

    Mmm yes, gaslighting grandma, the grandma who gaslights. The elder who lights the gas. The gassy grandma of light.

  • @user-wr6zt9lh7n
    @user-wr6zt9lh7n 2 місяці тому +1

    Basically S.Korea in 1960~80s.
    +) Aheb is representation of Koreans in that era. I bet most young Koreans heard something similar.
    "You can do whatever you want, after you get to college, job, an apartment, etc."
    ...but after that, people realize their entire life has just grinded away.
    If some realize this and speak their minds, there are always people saying, "thats why you dont have a decent □□".
    But in truth, those who say that nowadays never really sacrificed anything. They just took adventage. When problems appeared partly due to them, they just fault younger generation for being weak and lazy.
    ...Despite kids studying forcefully overnight beginning in elementary school till 2am (I did once for a while), competition, no free time and so on.
    Now, S.Korea has lowest birthrate (0.65) and highest suicide rate in the world.
    But moment some people take this subject out, asking for better welfair, they just label you as a 'commie' as we are technically still at war with N.K.
    No reasoning goes through people.

  • @Dememenic
    @Dememenic 7 місяців тому

    1 hour video? Yessir

  • @acaxie8494
    @acaxie8494 7 місяців тому +4

    Typical Project Moon brainrot, we really can't read lol
    Ahab has a skill in which she gets a phase where she is UNCLASHABLE in all attacks next turn and Queeqeg intercepts all attacks on her

  • @Noteneuro
    @Noteneuro 7 місяців тому +1

    Yeah the first Ahab fight is annoying because you have to read all of Ahab, and her crew skills. Because if the the first mate is alive when Ahab is trying to dodge then the first mate skills can one shot someone on your team. But if Ahab is guarding then then Queen will tank all your attacks. Believe me when i say i just resarted this fight like three times till i readed everything. Then I just EGO burst when Ahab did her defense order.
    Great video looking forward to your review of this chapter😊

  • @paps3060
    @paps3060 7 місяців тому

    the Stubb Mermaid moment made me think of the Robert Paulson scene from Fight Club
    except on purpose by Ahab instead of not

  • @TheKarmicPigeon
    @TheKarmicPigeon 7 місяців тому +3

    On the subject of Ahab saying the whale is Evil. as meny prolly alredy said the original ahab lost his leg to the whale and therefor wanted to hunt it, LB ahab also has a pegleg. but in the city where prostetics and dangerous scenarios are a dime a 1000 im guessing, wanting vengeance on some one for taking a limb whould be very petty. etleest by backstreet and city folk standards. (like im of corse not saying that it dusen't suck. but i bet most people whould go ''Your doing all this over a leg? come on bro just buy a cheap prostetic'', with this specific ahab im assuming its more like ishmeal who alredy mirrors her alot. ahab likely lost some one dear to her due to the phallid whale and therefor wanted to hunt it, or maby not even a specific loved one. maby she saw one of her other many crews or just people in general get pallified and therefor just saw the whale as evil becus it was taking peoples own lives away, and of corse ironicly she became the thing she swore to destroy.

    • @IchCharacter
      @IchCharacter 5 місяців тому

      If you want to know what Ahab is like, imagine the Middle, the guys that would allegedly slaughter the family of a kid over spilling ice cream over their expensive clothes. Good, now crank that up to eleven. Ahab literally said he'd strike the sun if it insulted him in the book. If this Ahab is anything like book Ahab, she would pursue any perceived insult, whether physically or otherwise, with an extreme vengeance. Doesn't matter if it was a Whale or the Head and all Arbiters, Ahab would embark on a great quest to take it down.

  • @1dekir
    @1dekir 7 місяців тому +2

    Huh, it is just me or in her harpoon... is that glowing thingy a golden branch? in 4:11 !

  • @paps3060
    @paps3060 7 місяців тому

    btw you can check the actual values of enemy attacks despite paralysis by looking at their attacks list in their parts info!
    like how you check passives
    bit annoying but better than nothing

  • @widecrusher7100
    @widecrusher7100 7 місяців тому +1

    Grandma be gaslighting everyone

  • @hellatze
    @hellatze 7 місяців тому +4

    you are meant to kill starbuck. stagger quee but not kill her. and aim at ahab.
    dont kill quee its pointless

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому

      Fun fact: I kill Quee first, the fight gets really easy after that.

  • @yukinohazuki9918
    @yukinohazuki9918 7 місяців тому +1

    thw trio was nerf btw. you did pretty well considering the no tank set up.

  • @RinrinFran
    @RinrinFran 7 місяців тому +2

    A certified GILF!

  • @Cirnein
    @Cirnein 7 місяців тому +1

    You know ahab is lowkey kinda like jack horner from puss in boots.

  • @tiagotakuceoofredacted8802
    @tiagotakuceoofredacted8802 7 місяців тому

    Damn, granny got hands

  • @zoruamaster2495
    @zoruamaster2495 7 місяців тому

    I can't believe Ahab gaslit you outvof clashing her 😔

  • @mitacestalia7532
    @mitacestalia7532 7 місяців тому

    The importance of reading is really important in PM lol

  • @slh8505
    @slh8505 6 місяців тому

    Dante has recently learned that all his experience with bearing the sinner's physical pain meant that he could take a hit or two, so he finally grew a pair and stood up to Ahab

  • @averylazydevil
    @averylazydevil 5 місяців тому

    The last fight in this video the defense skill has aggro, that's why you couldn't target Ahab (a month late probably and someone might have already mention it)

  • @RinrinFran
    @RinrinFran 7 місяців тому

    I've always said it as "Kwee-keg"

  • @noahtheperson4079
    @noahtheperson4079 7 місяців тому

    46:40 just a shield nothing I should have to worry about. It was in fact not something that he shouldn't have worried about.

  • @nova1134
    @nova1134 6 місяців тому

    “Ok cool, don’t know what this Abnormality is, but whatever.”
    - Is WAW abnormality
    - Outis fucking dies.
    “Oh Jesus Christ.”
    Comedy aside, I love that this is one of the first abnormalities that I had to think, “alright, a couple people may die here, but that’ll have to do.” That’s what I wish Lobotomy Corp. was actually like.

  • @suspiciouslurker3826
    @suspiciouslurker3826 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice

  • @NoRegs30
    @NoRegs30 5 місяців тому

    I love that Ahab is just straight from the book, they only changed his gender and shoved him into this world but the character is practically 1 to 1
    Goes to show how great that character still is

  • @FriendsLikeSolace
    @FriendsLikeSolace 7 місяців тому

    Captain Ahab is definitely hatable, but you can also she how she became or why she is the way she is.

  • @kakoytazabar
    @kakoytazabar 7 місяців тому

    This is a certified Rats moment.

  • @akaogre8781
    @akaogre8781 7 місяців тому +1

    Am I the only one who thinks all the VAs here are amazing?

    • @Tsunul
      @Tsunul  7 місяців тому

      Definitely not, them VA's going crazy.

  • @bearuang2283
    @bearuang2283 7 місяців тому +1

    Did you fight ahab before or after nerf?

    • @Tsunul
      @Tsunul  7 місяців тому

      All dungeon footage is before the nerf.

  • @uwufactor457
    @uwufactor457 7 місяців тому +1

    PM players really sometimes dont know how to read

  • @cadufraga6851
    @cadufraga6851 3 місяці тому

    Why did they make ahab a gilf

  • @Xerrack
    @Xerrack 7 місяців тому

    I would anyway