Chapter 4 Completely Changed My Mind On This Character | Limbus Company
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- That is the end of part 3 for chapter 4. Honestly, I really didn't expect Project Moon would make me like Yi Sang. I thought I'd think he's better, but now he's up their with my favorite sinners. So I mean damn, what a great story in Chapter 4.
- Ігри
Dongrang truly is a tragic character, he downloaded League of Legends, played once, and could never escape.
Poor Dota
"Your honor, League of Legends."
The Head: *Death.*
Criteria to manifest E.G.O
- Really strong mental fortitude
- an emotional stimuli that breaks all will and pushed back into a corner
- Reject Carmen, Embrace Ayin
dongrang prob said "what is carmen yappin about?" then manifested his ego
Join Hokma religion, embrace hope and our lord, Ayin
It's never said Ayin gives EGO while Carmen Distorts. I really don't know how such an idea sprouted in the community. Carmen bad must mean ayin good?
@@agzzradface3113 well carmen is one good deed and a hundreds of sins and ayin is one sin and a hundred of good deeds, the math adds up :)
(Im a trustable source)
@@agzzradface3113 i'd say it is based on leviathan. while the phrasing is vague, in the context of the conversation it is reasonable to assume they exist as opposing forces whithin the light
Mf really accept the fact that he's evil and undistorted himself THEN manifest an EGO
What a madlad
Demian's sheep remark is directed at fan artists. He wants them to draw Sinclair in a sexy sheep costume or he'll sabotage everyone's gacha rolls.
Carmen wanted to dongrag to to distort only for him to say FUCK IT WE BALL and manifest ego instead what a legend
Dongrang: NUH UH
To be fair I don't think Carmen cares if people distort *or* manifest E.G.O it's kind of a win-win scenario
@@nathanblackburn1193i think she does actually, while she doesnt have anything against her tier 3 simp ayin ("my junior in the light") she is definitely in denial about his sacrifise for her dream. Its actually kinda weird she considers ayin her successor while also being in denial that people aren't completely selfish and can love things other than themselves.
@@nathanblackburn1193I highly agree with you. After death, Carmen just want all city folks to face and expose their ego(not the equipment) in one way or another.
Why would Carmen do that? I thought she was a good person?
“Draw me a sheep later” is a reference to the Little Prince-something Demian the character is also a reference to. In the Little Prince, the request is for the reader/narrator to stop obsessing over the exact nature of an object, and instead, look towards potential-towards possibilities.
In the Little Prince, the Little Prince asks the narrator to draw him a picture of a sheep. Narrator obliges, but his meager skills in drawing could never produce a drawing of a sheep that the Little Prince was satisfied with. At his wit’s ends, the narrator draws the Little Prince a box, and claims that his sheep is inside it.
The Little Prince is overjoyed, because the narrator finally drew him exactly what he wanted to see.
With relation to Limbus Company, he seems to be making a request to Dante to stop seeing mirror worlds as mere useful tools and places of exploitation to draw up useful combat tools from, but to see them too as a place of infinite possibilities.
Dante’s note/Faust implies that, while the Mirror Technology doesn’t have negative effect on their universe, it might have some unspoken negative effects in the universes where the IDs were taken from. Demian doesn’t seem to be happy about people using it in any case.
@@PeteandRepeat1 so in Lobotomy theres an abno called the Little Prince, and in its story log it mentions someone with a distinct birthmark on the forehead.
He also said that Dante promised him to draw that so Dante could be one of the characters back in lobotomy corp since the little prince relates back to the lobotomy corp abnormality and because Demian could possibly be enoch
Fuuuuck! Thats why Demian has a scarf! Because St-Exupery drew the Little Prince with one! Demian IS the little prince (maybe, minus the rose, fox, snake and the narrator)
6:53 "yi sang, this is your mirror self, stop taking your meds. Trust Me."
"yi sang, im not real, take your schizo pills now"
Not only did Yi Sang not take the meds, he also went outside to touch grass.
@@Punishthefalsecharacter development..?
@@Punishthefalse thanks to my mirror self, i went to touch grass and defeat that mf
1:15:17 There's something i want to point out in the outro art, it has become a tradition that Vergilius will reward the Sinners with food LMAO.
- In Canto I, they didn't get the Golden Bough so there weren't food.
- In Canto II, Royda used the chips she stole to treat everyone.
- In Canto III, Vergilius treated the Sinners with kebab
- In Canto IV, Vergilius let them choose food from the menu for dinner.
This is such a wholesome mentally unstable family.
Vergilius acting as the sinners stern Dad and Mom at the same time will never not be funny
@@mr.raphael1507 featuring Danteh as the involuntary caretaker of 10 adults sized children and 2 kids sized adults
@@Stonepeb What's funnier is the fact that those kids are in their 20's and more.
Dante really takes the L.
I like how Netzach in Library of Ruina once said that "Those who speak aloud that they want to die are brazenly lying" and that "In reality they want to live more than anybody else and that's why they express their desire in this twisted form"
And Yi Sang at the end of chapter 4 says almost the same thing but instead as the reason why he made the mirror: "I made the mirror because I wished to keep on living and flapping and fluttering"
It might be too stretched, but for me personally these two lines and meaning behind them seems very similar
The potential has always been inside of him. All he needed to do was believe. Coming from a place of self-confidence issues, it's something that we desperately needed but didn't know what it was. We criticize ourselves, cut our own wings, believe our wings to be broken or missing compared to the million "What-ifs" versions of ourselves out there. What if we had made a different decision, what if we said this or that. In the end, what mattered was that we are still alive and trying our best everyday. And just like that, "Fly, perfect wings. Show them who I can be. For the one last time, if you will." Even if we could only fly once, at least we did try to fly. And if we did it once, we can certainly try to do it again and again until we regain our wings as long as we strive. It's a beautiful chapter, one I didn't expect to be so much more relatable than what happened in Ruina. But at this point, maybe that's just the PM-specialty, making you simp for evil men, women, and gender ambiguous people while snorting conference-table length of meth before drinking ten gallons of industrial-grade depressants and crying your heart out
I know that lots of people have already made the joke about how Carmen has taken another L, but I think this particular L is poignant because it not only denies her from causing a distortion, it also disproves her original theory. Dongrang didn't manifest his EGO by rejecting how miserable life in the City is, but rather by embracing it and resolving to continue perpetuating the misery for his own gains. He has proven to Carmen that her "plan" to cure the City was never going to work because people like him exist, therefore completely invalidating the point of her entire character arc.
I also like the detail of how Dongrang's EGO is that of a farmer, the kind of people the real life Yi Sang disliked (because he saw their lifestyle as a symbol of Korea's stagnancy) until he realised that he's a lot more similar to them than he'd like to be.
The best fuck you in the face to Carmen
Good shit Dongrang
Without knowing the farmer stuff, I read it as a dichotomy with Dongbaek.
Flowers can grow in fields that aren't tended to, so the farmer cuts them down, not caring about the flowers nor crops they plant themselves, but rather what they can do for him.
Didnt ayin already ruin her whole thought proccess already? Carmen is already in denial about ayin sacrifising himself for her dream while she believed no one would sacrifise themselves for others without regret and that was probably the biggest L she had ever gotten, this is probably the second biggest L carmen has gotten so far
@@hellatze also no ayins plan is working pretty fucking well the whole city is starting to see changes to the town due to people manifesting ego
Plus that's how Vergil got his EGO, he accepted the fact he's a sad old man with not much to live for, but he ain't denying it. Using that to continue even if it means he won't have much to fight for
Can't wait for Donqi's chapter just to hear Tsunul say "Yeah, I like Don now"
And Dongrang is just embodiment of: "this, too, is what depression looks like. Under smile, promising career and cheerful words". Its a cry for help in plain view.
I love how so many people (including me of course) have the exact same "Your boyfriend is inside" reaction to Demian appearing at the end.
Same. I also added, “I was wondering when you’ll show up.”
not me ,my reaction was"oh you showed up"
In the ending song you can see that when the colours brighten Yi Sang looks up from the mirror to the rest of the bus crew (in particular Hong Lu whose leaning over him), in a lovely bit of symbolism for how he’s starting to fill the hole left behind with new companions rather than the mirror
Also I think throughout the entire dungeon you can see a steady shift in Dongbaek’s words towards Dongrang from light-hearted ribbing to genuinely mean spirited attacks. The “sound of a crack” Yi Sang ignored came right after a round of her pulling his work apart and I think the “crack” was a crack in their friendship, and in Dongrang’s confidence. Maybe, if she hadn’t belittled his work to the point that he incinerated it, if he had been allowed to think that maybe his work could still change the world if he stayed with his friends, he wouldn’t have sold then out. Maybe. Idk it seems like there was a growing divide between people who wanted to stay true to the Leagues rules that the things they made were just for the league (Dongbaek, Sang-heo) and those who wanted either money to survive or to be able to actually do something bigger with the things they made (Dongrang, Gap-ryong), but it feels like Dongbaek had a big part in worsening that divide to breaking point
I understand Dongrang, but the fact that the guy had a mental breakdown over a cow is still hilarious to me.
Yeah lol... But joke aside... I think the cow is more of symbolism of dongrang ""starvation"/gluttony" for being recognized of his effort. the facts he is really has weird addiction to winning awards in k corp... He wanted recognition even if it come from animal... And how the phase of his distorted forms has gluttony pecatulum resemblance...
@@Mirfan-wt4sp it’s more that he secretly agreed with Dongbaek, and was trying desperately to fill up his empty, meaningless corporate life with equally vain and meaningless awards to distract himself from the fact that he was the happiest when he was treating animals at his home village. The calf was an animal he treated and nursed back to health when everyone else gave up, and in gratitude, the calf followed him around everywhere in his village. The calf now being unable to recognize him shattered his single remaining hope that he could somehow return to the happiest moment in his life.
And then by declaring that he wasn’t in the wrong, abandoning all sympathy and regrets, and fully embracing his corporate life, he manifested an EGO
@@Mirfan-wt4sp Yeah and the tragedy with him is, when he manifested EGO in a more idealistic story he may have instead concluded that he perhaps doesn't need recognition and just doing small things that are good are still worth it because even if no one else even knows what he did, he himself will. He could have realized that perhaps the one person that really needs to recognize his deeds is himself in order to be proud but instead he doubles down on wanting to achieve fame and fortune by any means neccessary. It also shows that climbing out of a pit of despair by finding new resolve does not always have to be an improvement.
As a Yi sang simp(not the character the real-life one), chapter 3-3 was quite interesting because more than half of its scripts were about Yi-Sang's poetries and novels. And I think they did a really great job making story easy to understand without having to read his works. + Mili have nailed it once again, they always make perfect music for the scene
Yi sang turned from a poetry weirdo into a gigachad, and that ‘s how amazing chapter 4’s story is.
soooo about Dante's clock moving, people already have a bunch of theories as to what's going on with it, the most popular theory rn is Dante being a Doomsday clock.
first of all just to make sure we are all on the same page, the Doomsday clock(the real life one) is a symbolic timepiece being handled by a bunch of scientists where they adjust its arms depending on current world events, the worse things are the closer it is to midnight, with midnight symbolizing doomsday, so the clock doesn't actually do anything it's just a cool way of telling us how bad things are in the world rn and how close we are to blowing ourselves up.
if Dante really is meant to be a living Doomsday clock then whenever his hand reaches midnight we will be in for one hell of a wild ride, I'd also like to also point out it's possible Dante might be the direct cause of that doomsday, or he might have nothing to do with it other than being a warning of how close it is just like the real life clock.
to close this off i want to say the only real evidence we have of all this is that his head looks like the real life Doomsday clock(only the last few hours are marked with gaint dots and the rest of it is empty) and we know PM is planning to make a city builder as their fourth game so it might be set in the aftermath of whatever doomsday event Dante is ticking towards.
I'd imagine the doomsday they may point towards is gonna be whatever was causing the population of the city to tank in the trailers.
Wait since when did we learn the next game was gonna be a city builder??
We playing fucking sinner skylines or something???
wait a CITY BUILDER?????
AAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
@@sleepylad951 We learned about it in the initial info we got on Limbus Company right after Ruina finished up, back when it was still called LCB and hadn't been officially teased yet. PMoon said they were working on two games; LC2 which will be a city-builder type game, and LCB which ended up being Limbus Company.
@@makarymetzger2627 It might take a while though because of the popularity of distortion detective PM decided to turn it into a videogame. Also the codename for the city builder seems to be LC2 so it might not be a full city builder but maybe us being the head of the new L. Corp that's gonna pop up after this game, and how we're gonna handle building a new nest.
Dante's clock face is based off the IRL Doomsday Clock, what with its lack of numbers, starting positions, and of course the two dots.
And as you could probably guess, the Doomsday Clock counts down to Humanity destroying itself, which combined with the last scene in the trailer of the citys population dropping faster than peoples bank accounts when Faust who Grips was announced, Dante's clock moving one tick closer to midnight is not a good sign.
I laughed way too hard when I saw the bank comparison 🤣
Carmen can’t stop taking Ls.(She has taken two so far this series, well technically 14 since each of our sinners has their own egos)
I believe the sinners egos are somewhat artificial since they are only weapons
@@Marti-kj3bw They are fragile egos but the sinners still had egos.This like actually one of those questions that I am surprised people aren’t asking more about, how did they manifest egos?
@@fibonaccicats7179 I think its something similar to what Limbus does to use the Egos from the abnormalities. Its forcing the ego out of them, not properly manifesting it like how people can do once they reach their limit or extracting it through L Corp's tech.
I mean she did have like 13 confirmed W in LoR compared to Ayin’s singular one so I’d say she’s likely still in the lead
@@polaxs_x That just sounds weird. As far as I know, their ego are personal ones( they obviously don’t represent any clear abnormalities).Forcing an ego out of a sinner sounds almost impossible.How can they trigger Scary Red-eyed women to speak ?(That is like the only way thus far for you to manifest your own ego)
HOLY SHIT I JUST GOT A METAPHOR THAT (probably) NO ONE`S GONNA CARE ABOUT BUT IT`S SO COOL
Ok, it`s probably a coincidence, but this is Project Moon we`re talking about so everything is possible.
You see how the smoke/smog covers the sky in the background, casting a shadow over the city?
Remeber how Yi Sang was responsible for making the factories, producing the smoke (being an architect)?
Dongrang said that he "always yearned to escape the shadows of the League"
And when he manifests EGO, the sky in the bacground lights up *in opposition to the shadow casted by the clouds of smoke*
HOLY SYMBOLISM, BATMAN!
Also I love how Damien basically said "Gacha bad"
The light almost looks like a nuke
I probably need a replay to understand it all but goddamn is it refreshing to see a story handle like...depression in a serious but uplifting way and represent it well, as a person who has also had a lifelong struggle with realizing I could fly the whole time. Like, even the fact of Yi Sang being the, "yeah he's just kinda there in the background saying odd shit lmao" character had a genuine purpose for the sake of his chapter. I like the boy, and I'll fight for the sake of that smile, on god 🔪
1:18:33 I'm sure this is a reference to "Little Prince" by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry as Little Prince also asked Aviator to draw him a sheep. It also fits with the stars/space theme and the big scarf Demian has.
When I read this for the first time, I was exited cus it's my fav novel both as a school reading and general. Literally a rare occurance of being grateful that I needed to read that for Polish lessons.
Yep! I recognized it immediately. Which also implies that Dante was the Aviator in his story? And the Little Prince/Demian was essentially a being hailing from the stars, which has... Interesting implications given what we learned about the origins of the Tearful thing and the use of Stars as motifs in the City. It does also imply that Dante probably was in the Outskirts at one point, which explains how he probably met Faust.
Also, am I the only one freaked out by the chapter confirming that technology that completely resurrects/revives people is banned by the City, and yet Limbus Company/Dante seems to be exempt from that taboo? That either means Limbus Company has ties with the Head, or that what Dante is doing isn't "reviving" the Sinners. Both answers have less than ideal implications.
@@Birthday888or revived i think there a loophole albeit not confirmed yet by the stories... Do You remember the twins fixer that had clone insurance to "revive" them. My guess for the loophole is IF the being werent revived in traditional revival (both soul and injured body still together).. which means the body isn't 100% rebuild and the mind/soul has 100% control for it... Unlike dante which come with 2 different power... 1. Full body restoration which is reverse of what happen to the body before it got fatally destroyed or injured
2. Soul bringer, dante brought back the soul of the sinners after their bodies are "revived"... That why i think the loophole is there... If the body and the mind/soul isnt revived at the same time.
Dongrang making a way from typical whatever villain to person who distorts and then manifest EGO chad. Its like going to hell and way back.
I felt rather sorry for Dongrang and Dongbaek but that’s just how some people’s lives go in the city. At least they can rest in relative peace now. I wonder how Dongrang would’ve turned out if he joined when Steph was still heading the corp, probably would’ve been a lot less cynical about things.
Also I feel like Dante knowing about singularities might be a massive double edged sword later
Dante keeping this a secret will probably pay of later in a big way.
Carmen: Your path ends here, how about you fully distort now?
Dongrang: No, I dont think i will. *fully manifest EGO*
Carmen: Jokes on you, that was my plan all along.
somewhat later... Carmen: *F*
PM just destroyed it with this chapter , every character got to do or say something and yi sang is actually interesting cause of it
Break the cage... and fly free.
I hope we can hug Yi Sang eventually. The man deserves one, at least.
translating the second version of Yeonsim, it means
連 - to connect, lead
心 - Hearts, minds, spirits
Kinda self-explanatory from the following sentence but I'm dumb and didn't realize that it was translating and not just another of yi sangs metaphors
I think the goons from T Corp either got their passive bugged, or somehow mistranslated, because I never got to see them heal at all when I was beating their asses.
For Dongrang, he is a curious case, for on one hand he is a dick and a backstabber. On the other hand, he fell onto that pit of despair after systematically being forced to give up on his dreams, realize that you can't help people if you don't expand your ideas to the world, and also being harrassed by the time gestapo. That one in particular must be pretty scary, because they imply that if they want, they can just wind back to whichever part of your timeline you were at your most vulnerable, and then take you into custody or straight up murder you if you don't comply. At the time that happened he must have been a teenager at most, and that, alongside the promise of being able to realize his dreams if he cut ties with his past might have been too much for him to promptly decline, as it was both a life-threatening notice, and an opportunity if he decided to keep on living.
That being said, the man clearly wasn't satisfied with himself, having backstabbed the only people that he cared about, rising to power and doing an aproximation of his dream by basically feed guro porn to an abnormality instead of helping people with his own hands. So he snaps and falls back to the old grindset of "if I destroy everything again, maybe I can find another chance to find true happiness this time around". I hate it, but also can't deny that me and many others could easily fall in the same result if had to live through what he had.
It's also important to notice that Yi Sang learned first hand what Dongrang had done, how he directly destroyed the only thing that gave him a safe space and a reason to feel happiness, yet his reaction after hearing his story is to apologize to him, for not realizing that he had be suffering as much as the others and not doing something about it. That is some mental maturity right there
I was gonna upload two separate videos then I decided "eh, why not an hour long video" so here we are. And yes, rendering this video took years off my pc's lifespan.
Im stealing from someone else's comment but i like how Dongbaek was desperate to destroy future to restore joy from past - and Dongrang wanted so desperately to cut everything that weights his mind from past to built future denying past pains.
Yi Sang's victory was in acknowledgement and accepting burden of both.
Also im straight from Mili's concert! They're so wholesome!
I think Damien might be my favorite character. He just pops in to say some cryptic ass bullshit that nobody gets and bounces before anybody can respond.
Dante saying "Screw you" is the highlight of the ending. My clock is fed up with all of these shits.
First instance of someone actually return from being distorted AND reverting it into EGO instead.
Carmen cant distort you without your consent and I find that funny that Dongrang was the one to do it.
EDIT: Damn is Gregor the only one who's gonna have a depressing ending to their chapter? Even Yi Sang got a happier ending than him shees.
Rodya and Sinclair didn't end on the happiest note either. Rodya just bottled up her feeling ands didn't confront her past. Sinclair is growing but his growth is still stuneted due to the trauma Kromer inflicted on him.
@@jack04man20 rodya and sinclair both accepted their sins, rodya faces her past and accept what she did and felt no regrets over it, while sinclair is now willing to fight kromer back rather than running away, fully affirmed in his determination to atone from his sin
I think that the thing about Gregor is that he's gonna have his time to redeem himself in the future. He's becoming more open to talk with others, starts giving out his opinions about ideals that he completely disagrees upon instead of keeping quiet and accepting them. His story isn't about "kill Hermann, become happy", but rather is a journey of moving past his PTSD trauma and making a new future for himself, so it'll take time
i believe Gregor and Rodya gonna have another chapter in the future, both of them face the source of their torment but havent rly put a closure on it. Im looking forward to see Hermann and Sonya in the future in their chapter.
@@AlphaAceEX Nah, Rodya still havent accept what she did and still have regrets, and there are 3 things to show that. i will quote the the dialog on the bus at the end of the chapter.
"Beneath her grin, Rodya's eye were shaking with distress, but she soon covers it up with a guise of joviality as if nothing ever happend,"
When Sonya try to recruit her she turn down the offer a said "I dont wanna bathe in warmth just yet. i feel like i oughta be in this cold abit longer."
And 3rd is the "boss" fight if u can even call it a boss fight because it literally just runing away from the problem and letting other clean it up for her just like in her past.
One thing I will say that I totally missed the first time i played through this chapter. In the conversation with Dangrang before he distorts, he says something really interesting. He says "I guess it wasn't just my work that burned away in the incinerator".
Does that mean that when something is burned in the concept incinerator it also destroys any emotions or feelings one has that would lead them to inventing it again? If so that makes Dongrang much more of a tragic story.
Not saying I like him, but it still makes his story alot more tragic and makes the concept incinerator even more terrifying. Since it can change your personality in a sense if it is based on what is being incinerated.
I think he was being far less literal about that. It's true that he lost his work, but that work was all he ascribed meaning to in his life. He'd sacrificed and lost a lot to even get to where he was, to the point that the person he had become was completely unrecognizable from the kind man he started out as (remember the cattle?),and losing his work was akin to losing his purpose.
He probably meant that metaphorically, but it might also mean him having regrets over outing the League to T Corp
My read wasn’t that the concept incinerator took a part of him but rather the circumstances of having to sacrifice what he’d poured his life and health into, knowing that there was a company that had beaten him to it. From the way he talked about his work it sounds like he put it above his own health, and already off-kilter thanks to T-corp and discovering K-corps work, Dongbaek’s words about how it’s not worth anything if it can’t change the world took a crack in his confidence and split it open. His work was his dream, and though he burned it himself the circumstances forcing him to meant it felt like a part of him was forcibly ripped away
Kinda like how Yi-Sang thought he’d lost his wings with the collapse of the league of nine
Welcome to the Yi Sang Fan club Tsunul, I have seen the ideal light as well
Anyone remembers the Joke "everytime Kaiba smiles a puppy dies" for yi sang cause "everytime time Yi sang smiles Don gets more Gremlin energy"
I've been a Yi Sang simp since I started playing Limbus Company, and watching his character development made me cry for how proud I am of him :") This Canto is also the first time I shed waterfall of tears when we fought Dongrang, because let's be honest... I really feel sympathy for Yi Sang and Dongrang, two friends who were torn apart because one feigned sloth in its original form (apathy) thanks to fear of getting hurt, and the other sunk himself in gluttony since he wanted more validation and fame despite it is all but nothing.
Yi Sang however, managed to overcome such fear and eventually fly with the wings that have been there all along. Also interesting fact: Yi Sang's wings at the climax cutscene is filled with memories of Guinhoe and becoming full, while Dongrang's wings are broken and blank. At the end of all those storms, we can finally see Yi Sang smile again. That's enough to make a grown woman like me cry. Words cannot describe how amazing this Canto is for me, all those waitings for the past weeks really paid off.
Aside from me growing to like Yi Sang even more, my respect for Hong Lu also becomes more apparent. The fact that he is one of those who noticed Yi Sang's letters as his way for calling for help made me realize that Hong Lu is also something more than just an innocently insensitive person, there's so much more beneath the surface.
Maybe this is the message that Canto IV tried to convey to us: there's so much more of life than what naked eyes could see. Bravo Project Moon, and thanks for always being entertaining Tsunul!
Demian's "Draw me a sheep" line is apparently a reference to "The Little Prince"-the book, not the mushroom Abnormality from LobCorp, though there could be a connection eventually. Because it was written in French by a French author some people think it might mean Demian is going to ratchet up in importance during Meursault's chapter.
I swear if everychapter is of this quality, then my favourite sinner is gonna change ever chapter
REALLY love how Project Moon did a beautiful homage and criticism of Korea's modern literature artists, many who had tragic lives.
I knew it would be painful to watch since my take on Dongrang is so much different from most people. Never thought it's going to hurt me so much that I skipped most of Tsunul takes on Dongrang.
Dongrang is just.... "this, too, is what depression looks like. Under smile, promising career and cheerful words".
I never thought I’d like dongrang, but I came to like his character, man’s got severe imposter syndrome which I understand all too well
It was such a good chapter. Really hit me hard then it should. Im happy you vibing with your boy Yi Sang now though.❤ this chatper really went hard then it did for the other chapters. Not saying they werent great, they were in its own way. But chapter 4 just came from a left field and hit hard.
Dante is going all around the City to collect confidential informations on each corp. singularity to end the world as it is.
More seriously though : You finally saw the light. Welcome to the Yi Sang simps club!
Dantes hands move everytime a chapter finishes, look at where it started and where it is now
Just say No
Remember, Carmen cannot legally Distort you without your consent
Carmen took another L! Gotta give credit to Dongrang for telling her "Fuck that!"
Carmen really should have known better before trying to distort someone literally called “one who denies everything” and expect not to be denied herself.
On the other hand Its quite the revelation that you don’t need to be a good person in order to get EGO
Distorted Dongrang: Cant believe I betrayed all my friends for hollow achievements and trophies that mean nothing
EGO Dongrang: Actually all of you were holding ME back! Screw you Cow! Screw you even more Yi Sang!
the clock hand moving is not gonna be memed, it's gonna be theorized about to hell and back because the implications that we're on a timer that seems to only move when a sinner face and overcomes their sin truly are rather serious
When I first saw Distorted Dongrang, the ears looked like eyes and the crease in the hat below it like a mouth, so his head looked like some kind of goofy lion muppet. I can't unsee it, so now you get to see it too.
It's interesting to see that people can distort and then manifest an e.g.o afterwards I guess that's means it's possible for distorted characters to save themselves that's cool.
Yi Sang spitting bars in the credits
7:18 Sang-Yi said everything will be back to normal, but I wonder if it would have just killed Yi-Sang so that he couldn't work on the mirror anymore (and N corp can't destroy Sang-Yi). Both choices then would have resulted in Sang-Yi's survival.
it follows "wings" short story that yi sang wrote irl, in that he did indeed eat a lot of sleeping pills at once and woken up after a few days.
Can't wait for the next chapter, the picture of Ishmael in rage really intrigue my curiosity.
Dongrang's character had more value to me than Yi Sang. Thats just the difference between an active character versus a mostly passive one. Dongrang's ego is also great for being a farmer. Its a shame you were already deadset on hating dongrang, (as were most people going into part 3) since I think he's a great character with some redeeming traits. Dongrang was the IDEAL antagonists to Yi Sang.
When you go into something expecting to hate it, of course you are going to. You don’t expect positivity, which magnifies the flaws in the character without realizing the other half.
There are rare instances where Project Moon makes a character that’s important to the story Simply Good or Bad. Things aren’t just simply Black and White. Majority falls in a gray area. Dongrang is a great example
Dongrang did absolutely nothing wrong.
Well, there's Samjo but that's about it I swear
I mean, Dongrang DID try to warn him. So in that scenario, he still did nothing wrong, and in fact tried to do something right.
The only one who did nothing wrong was dongbaek and yi sang. Dongrang is a snitching rat.
@@Bhavaagra To be perfectly fair, T-Corp enforcers are scary mf.
@@Bhavaagra And yi sang didnt do anything despite hearing the crack/knowing sometihng has gone very wrong.
Fly broken wings
Oh my god. Your reaction to the flowering tree event and the way that was edited had me in stitches. (Also mood, because that happened to me too.)
The wings cutscene always makes me cry whenever i see it
When he checked Wishing Cairn but didn’t check corrosion it made me oof a bit because the corrosion is an AoE
Regardless I just read through everything and like understanding my situation and skills as well as I can so it’s kinda funny
It's cool to see Yi sang happy and looking on the mirror, he said clearly in the beggining that the deslikes mirrors and smoke, now I want to see how he's gonna be on Ishmael chapter. Also, K corp. needs a new executive director, Alfonso probably won't last much now.
This chapter really did slap hard. Was worth the wait. That end bit with dante's clock made me think of the concept of the doomsday clock. Less so about nukes this time around, but more so that the event that will be "midnight" is begining to approach.
“oh sang yi my days just been so bad”
“you can leave”
“oh shit fr?”
First, im still stuck on beating the hell out of sunshower since everyones underleveled. glad the opinion of yi sang has shafted
This chapter of yi sang summary
- Depression = defeated
- wings = regained
reminder that there's a button in the top right that shows you where everyone's attacks are aiming.
About the sheep drawing, Demian is also referenced as a Little prince of the 'Little prince' in this game. His flying scarf resembles it.
Honestly surprised you didn't pop Representation Emitter or Fluid Sack more often for the sanity bumps, would have solved a lot of the tails coin tosses.
Edit: And then fight two it's Fluid Sack spam, I stand corrected lol.
I feel like The first 3 sinners got cucked during their chapters with Yi sang’s being so good
They gotta pay respects to their ancestor 😂
Finally the prediction came true.
He truely is medival Slim Shady.
The egos with the insane amounts of damage were battle pass's Yi Sang Sunshower and Mersault's Capote. They are retooling them in the next update to make them way less op.
Goes through the entire chapter and probably still thinks Sen is insane for liking Yi Sang
well she was a pluto liker 😂
I cannot stop crashing on the last turn of the final fight, unfortunately, but this has been a great chapter nonetheless. Also, we got a few gems like Limbis along the way :)
Project moons power system is very interesting I like that people can get stronger in so many ways they can try and get stronger they can use advanced technology to make powerful weapons but I think it's really cool character development as a part of the power system I think the project moon might have one of my favorite Power systems if not my number one favorite.
PM always delivers
Wishing Cairn was actually Yi Sang throwing rocks then, hear me out, throwing knives AT THE ROCKS.
It's official, Tsunul became a new member of the Yi Sang Simps Fanclub.
Dongbaek and Dongrang are 2 sides of a coin, while Yi Sang is in the middle. Face of the fear of the past, and Embrace the future, whatever hardship it will bring.
Tsunul try to play games at a reasonable time challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Honestly, this is my favorite Canto, somehow beating Canto III
I vibe with Yi Sang so much
The Little Prince reference for Demian is cheeky ngl
and Dante's clock turning was actually kinda scary, because it really resembles the Doomsday Clock
The chapter 4 dungeon sure was an experience for me for several reasons. 1. I don't use Yi-Sang in my main team and only had 2 identities for him, Seven and Blade respectively, so they were underleveled and incompatible with my main team, forcing me to slow down to build another team. 2. My friend who beat the chapter before me, conveniently forgot to mention the E.G.O gift that buffs Yi-Sang to lvl 35 and max uptie which left some of my other team members underleveled(26-28), so that was a lot of tickets wasted. 3. In the 1st fight with Dongrang I accidentally started the battle with only 5 sinners, I still won though. The second fight I also took on with 5 sinners, because I found that having less sinners to manage made sanity easier to gain. The IDs I used for the entire dungeon were Seven association Yi-Sang(He's actually stronger than expected especially with his passive), Seven Association Ryoshu(Has high rolls that make clashes easier despite the lack of coins), Seven Association Outis(Good Synergy, Good overall), L Corp Remnant Faust(Actually Based, provides extra E.G.O Resources and with the right setup is capable of rolling higher than N-Corp Sinclair) and Zwei Sinclair(Served as local sandbag for Dongrang, he will be missed).
The worst part about this is I single pulled the new Yi-Sang ID after beating chapter 4.
The only true saddest thing in this video was this dude sanity management.
Smh.
Last time I said Sinclair was my favorite after his chapter and getting his 3 star, however history repeats itself and now yi sangs my favorite
Funnily how Golden Time actually works is at turn end, between a certain hp threshold, which is why uh, they aren't coming back up, mostly
This was truly ideal
Damian becoming a very interesting and dangerous sounding character with his speech. if he wasen't alredy. i mean the only thing i could rilly get from his ramblings (though i will say that they are all heavy assumptions) where that 1. hes a multiversal entity. and 2. if his claims about you stealing from him jusing the mirror are to be believed..he owns the multiverse. witch leads me to making 2 heavy assumptions. 1. hes the president of the entire city, and all citys beyond witch i honestly whould not doubt. or 2. witch ik is the biggest assumption...the entire mutliverse is his E.G.O or some kind of creation of his. Agian i will be the first to admit that these are very heavy assumptions. and that we are still pretty early in the Whole storyline to make em. But idk. Damian is rilly giving me those vibes now of ''Multiversal enttity you rilly should not mess with''
1:01:26 we see how Yi sang's EGO changed the environment around him. It seems that the personal EGO have become stronger
8:25 9:26 56:00 for Yi Sang simps
If we ever get a Dante chapter, I hope the thing is a choose-your-own-adventure style deal where the choices you make determines how strong or weak the end chapter boss is while we get backstory on who Dante used to be. Something that emphasizes that it's Dante's turn to protect the sinners
57:34 LIMBISS COMPANY
Yi Sang being a rap god/poet at the end XD
I wonder what dante is thinking about at the ending of this chapter he seems a bit troubled about something (also outis looking unhinged and shady as per usual and it seems faust is talking to vergilious about something important)
Bro they just trying to eat steak
I stopped playing LCB because I don't have a pc and my phone sucks dick so I really appreciate someone posting the game content for people like me who can't play the game. Keep it up tsunul I'll be waiting for chapter 5
1:01:20 Also the cutscene of Yi sang stabbing dongrang was so good
Dongrang did nothing wrong
Here's to hoping that Fly, my wings cutscene will be his uptie IV base E.G.O
I know people like to joke and say Carmen has been taking Ls, but tbh she hasn't taken any. Based on her dialogue at the end of Ruina, whether someone distorts or develops EGO is a win for her in either situation. Her goal is to have people look at their true selves and love themselves for who they are, EGO is basically the epitome of this, as its the concept of self-actualization. And since distortion is the other side of the same coin as EGO, you could argue that either outcome is good, at least from her perspective. I imagine the reason she's trying to push people to Distortion is that its probably easier when they're in emotionally volatile states than pushing them towards EGO, and in doing so may grant that person the impetus to gain EGO that they otherwise wouldn't have had by going against her words.
EGO and Distortion as concepts are honestly pretty interesting, as neither are permanent states, and its demonstrated someone can go from one side to the other in this very chapter with Dongrang, so the reverse is probably true as well. Hell, Gebura lost the ability to naturally manifest her EGO in Ruina, having to get around it via a loophole, and that probably has something to do with how she doesn't consider herself the same person as she was in her first and second lives. I'm honestly curious to learn more details about EGO and Distortion, and to see how the Sinners EGO differ, since I find it hard to believe all 12 of these people manifested their EGOs naturally before getting picked up by the company.
Im pretty sure rhe "draw me a sheep" is a reference to "Le Petit Prince"
Nice video