I love how you're channel is a fast car enthusiast channel and not a this brand is better than that brand. Cheers to keeping it real and praising all car companies for their high horsepower efforts.
Hey pro tip, I use Sonax's Alcantara cleaner and a soft toothbrush on the steering wheel to loosen up the dirt/contaminants. Mine looked like yours and became soft and dark again, no brownish tint. Works on the seat as well.
You indicated; Your car was "built ok" and sent to Penske per Ford's system. Sitting for 70 days tells me it's not minor paint damage work off. That happens, but if it's minor, 7-10 days max. Cars don't get lost at Ford or Penske. My guess is major damage and returned to plant. Ford owns the car at this point and can declare it a total loss. Sadly no obligation to tell you that. Now it's a dealer problem to explain. I could be wrong, but I've seen this more than once.
Wow! If the car was damaged and needing significant repairs, then I'd want to get a different vehicle. Why not reach out and ask about the delays point blank?
For the life of me, why would anyone want to pay $10K for two painted stripes over a car? That in itself is highway robbery. Vinyl is $1000. If you take care of them they last a long time. Better yet. No stripes. Rapid Red, black roof. Could be driving it 2 months ago.
i was just looking at pp2 gt premiums, found out that the ecoboost handling pkg has the same wheels. made me less interested in the pp2 gt for some reason
But did it really handle different with the little wingletts? I mean really? I know it looks cool and I really really love mustangs but does it really function?. I'd think around 120 to 150 mph it might do something.
No where can I find the CFTP has been changed or a sub model added. A possible option is adding more carbon fiber trim and wheels as an option to the base Shelby. *Base. Base with CF trim, and CFTP*
As for the painted carbon fiber wheels, I think it is to cover up blemishes in manufacturing - a way to recover some of the product that might otherwise go to dust bin. ... I'm just saying, but who knows. ... On another topic - what do you think of the MACh 1? Is it just a cosmetic upgrade of a GT or is more than that? I think they should have put the GT500 motor minus the super charger. to differentiate the MACh 1 from the GT.
That's the point. If you paint the wheel they can save money not making the weave nice. If they make the weave nice so that it is exposed the wheel cost a fortune. There no error it is just a choice to save money.
Ford sold mostly non-CFTP, GT 500s. That $18k option was too expensive for buyers who rarely track their cars. That’s why it’s smart sometimes to wait a couple of years to see improvements and changes.
That would be awesome! Unfortunately I don't think I can as I thought I'd have the track pack delivered well by now... The event looks like a ton of fun though!
Makes sense to me, carbon fiber handling package, better handling through lighter wheels. Black painted carbon fiber wheels. And FORD does do some strange descriptions, the 87-88 T birds had an "high effort" steering package. Which was just a faster rack and pinion ratio.
Has the thought occurred to you that perhaps Ford is aware of all the attention that you’ve been heaping on the new C8? Could that be why your GT500 track pack is delayed? If I were you, if you haven’t done this already, I would be aggressively emailing and/or calling executives at forward to inquire about the status of your car and why it is delayed.
For 2021 the Carbon Fiber Track Pack may be discontinued and this new Carbon Fiber Handling Package may be replacing the more expensive $18,500 package.
No what he is saying is if the wheels are exposed they have to craft the weave so that it looks good. To do that cost a fortune. If you make them with ugly weave and just paint them the wheels are attainable. Still light and perform well.
Try finding a dealer that will sell you one for MSRP? Forget it. $30-40K over. I gave up... called all over the USA on any unit in stock or coming. Better off with a ZR1 or ZL1. Wait for the Z06 for MSRP. Had mustangs for 41 years. No more... dealers are crooks. I’ll keep my vintage Mustang and get a C8 ZO6 for $40K less at MSRP. I’m 7th on the list at a major Corvette dealer. Ford lost me as a customer for any Ford. They have lost their way.
@Speed Phenom Dude, How about you contact the Ford Big Wigs that are on that PDF and ask them directly and share with us their response to your question. Thanks Tim
@@SpeedPhenom i was wondering cause of the rims i think your right it might just be a carbon fiber handling package they did cause of the extra 350r rims they had
That Mach1 should be faster. Making it slower than the GT350 is just stupid. At least make it the same speed and power if you’re gonna discontinue the GT350 lineup.
I liked the the looks of the GT350 better than the GT500 when viewing them side by side in a dealership. Both was black in color and the GT350 just looked meaner with the stance it had.
I can definitely see Ford adding the carbon fiber wheels to the handling pack. It adds another big money and highly sought after option to the base cars. It will definitely appeal to the buyers that want the Performance along but without sacrificing the creature comforts by going full Carbon Fiber Track Pack. I personally would love to get my hands on a set of painted black carbon fiber wheels for my new 500, and this might make them attainable
I just googled some pics of 2021 Mach 1's. I'm bummed. I was hoping to see something along the lines of the old early 70s. That longer nose and fast back tail. Loved the 73. My friend in hs had one, while I had a 66 coupe.
It would be perfect if they would offer the carbon fiber wheels as a stand alone option. I didn’t want the wing or the recaro seats but I definitely would have added carbon fiber wheels to my 2020 build if it was available. Ford should offer more flexibility to options. My biggest complaint
People might of heard about the mustang something called the "Unicorn" But there is also something called the curse of the yellow Mustang! About them always having a problem, transmission, the paint comes off etc! It was more common in yellow that other colors. Thus people that knew didn't want a yellow one!
Delay seems a little personal. Wonder like others , if it’s due to the C8 love lately. Food for thought. As for the handle package. I haven’t a clue. Sounds interesting though. All the best.
So all those people that thought that ford was only making the GT500 in 2020 only, and paid all the mark up prices because they thought it was only going to come out one year got screwed?
Speed Phenom Great Video I think ford could very well could be adding a Carbon fiber Holding Pack option for the 2021 Shelby GT500s and Happy Labor day to you and your family and Congratulations on getting 135k Subs
I agree..dual clutches applied to front engine performance vehicles weigh double of what a manual transmission weigh..dct's should only be used in mid engine applications
Have you seen the resale value of the Shelby gt350 skyrocket over the last 6 months?? I bought a 17 gt350 a year and a half ago. I put 800 miles on it. Weekend cruises and track. I sold it last month for 5 grand MORE than I bought it!! A 2017, a year and a half later!!!! I bought the classic oxford white with the blue OTT stripe, 2018, 2500 miles. I paid 56,500. A month later, I'm getting offers for 60k. The market is insane. Blue book is driven by sales, therfore has gained 10% in a year based on the market, supply and demand. Buy a Shelby today. Buy gently used. Avoid markup and you are making money on a new gen car. Never seen this, ever.
sounds like ford maybe discontinuing the track package and plus the track package cost much more money and probably didn't sell as well as the standard so they're making it an option instead.... That would make the track package a collector's item🤔 🤷🏾♂️.
@@cflgt500 what's the point of having a track package.... If the handling package also has the carbon fiber wheel option... The price category would be pretty confusing their...🤔🤷🏾♂️.
@@lawrencehoward7836 the track package is still better than the cf handling package. The meant cf handling package seems like it’s basically replacing the gt350r
My car sits for 70 days with no explanation I’m DONE and move on. Nothing special about this car in today’s world. They will make thousands and dealers will continue to try and steal your money. The whole thing is a huge turn off. Put your time, effort and money in something more productive.
Taking my Fox Body that's running on 7 cylinders to VIR on 9-11. It's got a better cage than that flim flam ticky tacky in yours. Going to do a comparo with a rented C8. Go Mustangs!
It’s so hard to understand what’s going on inside those gigantic corporations. They have so many dept. and sometimes they just don’t talk to each other. If you know the 1963 Corvette Grand Sport history, you know what I’m talking about. But about Ford, don’t you think they should make something between the Mustang GT500 and the Ford GT? Maybe with less exotic materials to compete directly against the C8 Corvette. I mean, the GT500 is an awesome car in every way, but it’s Camaro’s nemesis not the Corvette’s. Proof is that it needs 760hp to hang on with the 495hp of the C8. Please, don’t get me wrong! I have sport cars from different makers and love them all.
Janet Sminten Oh, please! The GT500 is a sensational car, along with the GT350, but they’re Mustangs! Since the beginning of times Mustangs and Camaros compete between them. Considering you didn’t elaborate ( it must be that obvious for you ), let me: the present competition for the Mustang GT500 is the Camaro Zl1and ZL1 1LE. There are more than a few videos comparing them. Of course, you can put a car like the GT500 against a Corvette or a Porsche, but that doesn’t mean they’re it’s natural competition! But with the new 2020 GT500 model, GM probably will have to launch a better and improved model of the CAMARO and up it’s game.
Mustang GT500, Charger HellCat, Camaro ZL1, they are all some great looking cars !
I love how you're channel is a fast car enthusiast channel and not a this brand is better than that brand. Cheers to keeping it real and praising all car companies for their high horsepower efforts.
Thank you so much!! Yes that is the goal! I really appreciate your support.
Speed Phenom I know U don’t smoke weed but I wish u did I would burn with u bro. Be safe out there✌️
Hey pro tip, I use Sonax's Alcantara cleaner and a soft toothbrush on the steering wheel to loosen up the dirt/contaminants. Mine looked like yours and became soft and dark again, no brownish tint. Works on the seat as well.
I think Ford Corp has seen your love affair with the C8 and this is their way of getting back
Or get carbon for fat 2020 gt500
lOl LoL
Maybe with the discontinuation of the 350R maybe they had leftover wheels to use up
I was thinking the same thing
You might have hit the nail on the head. That would be a legit scenario.
Whats with “lift over” things going on with ford🤔
So are they going make enough GT500’s this year so we can buy one without a markup over MSRP?
They are already marking up the prices like scavengers. I just found a 2020 Gt 350 and I paid close 77k
You indicated; Your car was "built ok" and sent to Penske per Ford's system. Sitting for 70 days tells me it's not minor paint damage work off. That happens, but if it's minor, 7-10 days max. Cars don't get lost at Ford or Penske. My guess is major damage and returned to plant. Ford owns the car at this point and can declare it a total loss. Sadly no obligation to tell you that. Now it's a dealer problem to explain. I could be wrong, but I've seen this more than once.
Wow! If the car was damaged and needing significant repairs, then I'd want to get a different vehicle. Why not reach out and ask about the delays point blank?
For the life of me, why would anyone want to pay $10K for two painted stripes over a car? That in itself is highway robbery. Vinyl is $1000. If you take care of them they last a long time. Better yet. No stripes. Rapid Red, black roof. Could be driving it 2 months ago.
rgia100 some people have more money then brain
Will Ford Performance Blue be available on the 2021 GT500?
Can you put the link up for that press release by chance? Can’t seem to find it unless Ford has already removed it.
i was just looking at pp2 gt premiums, found out that the ecoboost handling pkg has the same wheels. made me less interested in the pp2 gt for some reason
But did it really handle different with the little wingletts? I mean really? I know it looks cool and I really really love mustangs but does it really function?. I'd think around 120 to 150 mph it might do something.
No where can I find the CFTP has been changed or a sub model added. A possible option is adding more carbon fiber trim and wheels as an option to the base Shelby. *Base. Base with CF trim, and CFTP*
Anyone have any idea what year will be the last year of the Shelby GT500?
How about Mach1 Handling package with Race Red ?🎈❤️
Grabbed yellow for me
I know everyone on here is looking to Mach 1 news, etc, but man that GT350R is such a legend car. We're going to miss it.
Have you the 1440 all electric super snake ?
As for the painted carbon fiber wheels, I think it is to cover up blemishes in manufacturing - a way to recover some of the product that might otherwise go to dust bin. ... I'm just saying, but who knows. ... On another topic - what do you think of the MACh 1? Is it just a cosmetic upgrade of a GT or is more than that? I think they should have put the GT500 motor minus the super charger. to differentiate the MACh 1 from the GT.
basically a gt350 at that point
That's the point. If you paint the wheel they can save money not making the weave nice. If they make the weave nice so that it is exposed the wheel cost a fortune. There no error it is just a choice to save money.
What is your dealership saying regarding delivery of your GT500. Have you contacted them?
It is still in code status "production".
Speed Phenom 🤔!
Ford sold mostly non-CFTP, GT 500s. That $18k option was too expensive for buyers who rarely track their cars. That’s why it’s smart sometimes to wait a couple of years to see improvements and changes.
Are you going to Myrtle Beach for Mustang Week!?
That would be awesome! Unfortunately I don't think I can as I thought I'd have the track pack delivered well by now... The event looks like a ton of fun though!
I thought they cancelled Mustang Week?
Chris M. They did, but I think there will still be a good turnout of mustangs and unofficial events.
do you know when do they anounced or when you can buy this 2021 cars ?
Makes sense to me, carbon fiber handling package, better handling through lighter wheels. Black painted carbon fiber wheels. And FORD does do some strange descriptions, the 87-88 T birds had an "high effort" steering package. Which was just a faster rack and pinion ratio.
Has the thought occurred to you that perhaps Ford is aware of all the attention that you’ve been heaping on the new C8? Could that be why your GT500 track pack is delayed? If I were you, if you haven’t done this already, I would be aggressively emailing and/or calling executives at forward to inquire about the status of your car and why it is delayed.
For 2021 the Carbon Fiber Track Pack may be discontinued and this new Carbon Fiber Handling Package may be replacing the more expensive $18,500 package.
Is ford having trouble with the exposed carbon wheels and decided to just do painted?
No what he is saying is if the wheels are exposed they have to craft the weave so that it looks good. To do that cost a fortune. If you make them with ugly weave and just paint them the wheels are attainable. Still light and perform well.
GT500 are so nasty!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Try finding a dealer that will sell you one for MSRP? Forget it. $30-40K over. I gave up... called all over the USA on any unit in stock or coming.
Better off with a ZR1 or ZL1. Wait for the Z06 for MSRP. Had mustangs for 41 years. No more... dealers are crooks. I’ll keep my vintage Mustang and get a C8 ZO6 for $40K less at MSRP. I’m 7th on the list at a major Corvette dealer. Ford lost me as a customer for any Ford. They have lost their way.
rgia100 agree! I tried and gave up as well. I don’t understand why ford would do this to it’s customers.
@Speed Phenom Dude, How about you contact the Ford Big Wigs that are on that PDF and ask them directly and share with us their response to your question. Thanks Tim
Did you get painted stripes?
Yes I did opt for the painted over the top stripes. It will be Ford Performance Blue with Oxford White Painted Stripes!
That’s why it’s taking so long. One person at Hertz does all the painted stripes and he is behind from Covid.
It's just an add on to the regular. Not full track pack, but CF wheels for a regular GT500. Kind of an in between.
Whats the difference between gt350 and 350r carbon rims costs
I think there is around a $15k difference for the 2020 GT350s vs R. GT350 MSRP 59K, GT350R MSRP 74K.
@@SpeedPhenom i was wondering cause of the rims i think your right it might just be a carbon fiber handling package they did cause of the extra 350r rims they had
That Mach1 should be faster. Making it slower than the GT350 is just stupid. At least make it the same speed and power if you’re gonna discontinue the GT350 lineup.
Thank you bro! Great in-depth coverage of these guys man!
Good video. Thanks for the 411 on 2021. Hoping the prices level around MSRP for the GT500s. 🤞
Will be looking a the 2o22 super snake, on my retirement
Honestly the Mach one isn’t that cool it’s more like a performance package when the Shelby is like a different car
I think it should have a shaker hood( looks and nostalgic)and 500-520 horse at that price. It looks nice but $51K IMO is too much.
I liked the the looks of the GT350 better than the GT500 when viewing them side by side in a dealership. Both was black in color and the GT350 just looked meaner with the stance it had.
Keep doing what you do man. I really enjoy the videos.
Speed phenom have you ever considered bringing a truck to the channel? Maybe the new Broncos?
I can definitely see Ford adding the carbon fiber wheels to the handling pack. It adds another big money and highly sought after option to the base cars. It will definitely appeal to the buyers that want the Performance along but without sacrificing the creature comforts by going full Carbon Fiber Track Pack. I personally would love to get my hands on a set of painted black carbon fiber wheels for my new 500, and this might make them attainable
I just googled some pics of 2021 Mach 1's. I'm bummed. I was hoping to see something along the lines of the old early 70s. That longer nose and fast back tail. Loved the 73. My friend in hs had one, while I had a 66 coupe.
The GT500 is probably getting the old 350R wheels.
They should offer the GT500 with a manual transmission.
When you get in the car I'm thinking your seats and cage probably cost more than my entire car
It would be perfect if they would offer the carbon fiber wheels as a stand alone option. I didn’t want the wing or the recaro seats but I definitely would have added carbon fiber wheels to my 2020 build if it was available. Ford should offer more flexibility to options. My biggest complaint
I Just want to see a Gt500 with carbon Fiber monocoque. This would be amazing and expensive af but still amazing
It’s in between the base and track pac
People might of heard about the mustang something called the "Unicorn" But there is also something called the curse of the yellow Mustang! About them always having a problem, transmission, the paint comes off etc! It was more common in yellow that other colors. Thus people that knew didn't want a yellow one!
I notice you didn't mention the Sixty horse Power Lost. Seven Hundred Horse Power Engine only. WTH ????
What happened to your gt 500 did I miss something???
I sold it 2 months ago for the 2020 GT500 Carbon Fiber Track Package, as it was being built.
Delay seems a little personal. Wonder like others , if it’s due to the C8 love lately. Food for thought. As for the handle package. I haven’t a clue. Sounds interesting though. All the best.
Seth Branam I was thinking the same thing. 🤪
You're both paranoid
Bob Hope and you are quite opinionated for a dead guy.
So all those people that thought that ford was only making the GT500 in 2020 only, and paid all the mark up prices because they thought it was only going to come out one year got screwed?
Regarding the GT 500, I think it's a new package
Clean looking car fam! Excited to hit the track soon
Speed Phenom Great Video I think ford could very well could be adding a Carbon fiber Holding Pack option for the 2021 Shelby GT500s and Happy Labor day to you and your family and Congratulations on getting 135k Subs
The Ford GT still needs to be a V8 especially if you are paying 500k and then if you buy 1.5M for all carbon fiber
I still don’t know why the 5.2 wasn’t used for it. Perfect engine for it.
Because the 6 gets it done.
I own a 19 and it eats V8s all day.
@@suzyjohnson4667 lmaooo
@@suzyjohnson4667 Kek, no one believes you.
Got here early!
Stop trying get rid of manual transmission I hate automatic
I agree..dual clutches applied to front engine performance vehicles weigh double of what a manual transmission weigh..dct's should only be used in mid engine applications
People just want to go fast for bragging rights. Skill is dead, unfortunately.
Only if the 500s came with manual transmission 😔😔
I like the new autos
You know what would have been great for 2021? that super snake you decided to sell
PR Team ≠ High Up Officials
I'm just going to keep my GT350R, I want a new Shelby, but I think I would rather move on.. thanks for your hard work! 😎🇺🇸🙏
Please keep it forever and pass it on to the next generation, you won’t regret it
Notification Squad and First
3:47 - You're welcome.
Very interesting. I'm going to be talking to my guy in Vegas and see what he has to say about this.
Let's go 🐍🐍🐍👍🏿
Have you seen the resale value of the Shelby gt350 skyrocket over the last 6 months?? I bought a 17 gt350 a year and a half ago. I put 800 miles on it. Weekend cruises and track. I sold it last month for 5 grand MORE than I bought it!! A 2017, a year and a half later!!!! I bought the classic oxford white with the blue OTT stripe, 2018, 2500 miles. I paid 56,500. A month later, I'm getting offers for 60k. The market is insane. Blue book is driven by sales, therfore has gained 10% in a year based on the market, supply and demand. Buy a Shelby today. Buy gently used. Avoid markup and you are making money on a new gen car. Never seen this, ever.
Your car is not being delivered because the yard hound is still test driving it ;-)
Don't discontinue the gt350
sounds like ford maybe discontinuing the track package and plus the track package cost much more money and probably didn't sell as well as the standard so they're making it an option instead.... That would make the track package a collector's item🤔 🤷🏾♂️.
The track pack isn’t being discontinued. The the carbon fiber handling package is just a bit of an enhanced version of the regular handling package
@@cflgt500 what's the point of having a track package.... If the handling package also has the carbon fiber wheel option... The price category would be pretty confusing their...🤔🤷🏾♂️.
@@lawrencehoward7836 the track package is still better than the cf handling package. The meant cf handling package seems like it’s basically replacing the gt350r
My car sits for 70 days with no explanation I’m DONE and move on. Nothing special about this car in today’s world. They will make thousands and dealers will continue to try and steal your money. The whole thing is a huge turn off. Put your time, effort and money in something more productive.
Maybe your dealer shafted you?
Have you thought the reason your having trouble getting the GT 500 is because of showing to much of the other company car?????
Wouldn't that actually make them send it faster to get attention off of the other car & onto the CFTP? ..UNLESS THEY'RE WORRIED....
so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
great research
TBH, the Mach 1 is what a regular Mustang GT should be today.
That would make the Mustang GT waaaaaay too expensive.
Research 2021 Ford Mustang GT500 SS
CARBON FIBER, Will make the Car so much liter.
I mean lighter!!!
Mach 1 is not a ford performance vehicle so it won’t have FP blue.
Noti gang and second
ya scared to compare to corvette must get gt500s sold before u get yours
Exactly!!
He's compared his car to his c8
Gt500se supersnake over 800hp
WHY FORD YOU MAKE THE RAPTOR A ECOBOOST AND THE FORD GT TO KNOW YOUR GETTING RID OF MY DARLING THE GT350 😭😭😭😭
Too many freaking ads!!
I love that car❤️❤️❤️
Fonally
Taking my Fox Body that's running on 7 cylinders to VIR on 9-11. It's got a better cage than that flim flam ticky tacky in yours. Going to do a comparo with a rented C8. Go Mustangs!
Sounds like ford didnt like the results GT500 had against the ZL1 1LE and is making some upgrades for 2021!
Finally
They are painted because ford will get their money back for the wheels that didn't turn out good so just paint them
Finnaly
why do you sound like that
It’s so hard to understand what’s going on inside those gigantic corporations. They have so many dept. and sometimes they just don’t talk to each other. If you know the 1963 Corvette Grand Sport history, you know what I’m talking about. But about Ford, don’t you think they should make something between the Mustang GT500 and the Ford GT? Maybe with less exotic materials to compete directly against the C8 Corvette. I mean, the GT500 is an awesome car in every way, but it’s Camaro’s nemesis not the Corvette’s. Proof is that it needs 760hp to hang on with the 495hp of the C8. Please, don’t get me wrong! I have sport cars from different makers and love them all.
The Camaro is not the GT500's competition lol
Janet Sminten Oh, please! The GT500 is a sensational car, along with the GT350, but they’re Mustangs! Since the beginning of times Mustangs and Camaros compete between them. Considering you didn’t elaborate ( it must be that obvious for you ), let me: the present competition for the Mustang GT500 is the Camaro Zl1and ZL1 1LE. There are more than a few videos comparing them. Of course, you can put a car like the GT500 against a Corvette or a Porsche, but that doesn’t mean they’re it’s natural competition! But with the new 2020 GT500 model, GM probably will have to launch a better and improved model of the CAMARO and up it’s game.
My neon srt4 will smoke that!
Overpriced automobile's
I'm a Mustang man, but if I'm going spend that much money, I'll spend it on a C8
You look better in the C8......Ford is only good if you want a truck.
There carbon wheel painted black
way too young....no credibility