Jozy Altidore reveals REAL reason why USMNT failed to qualify for 2018 World Cup!
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Honestly Clint's perspective is the most rational one and he knows what the problem is with us soccer's management and how should we proceed.
He knows because he was the only one that grew up poor, in a trailer park. He played street ball with the Mexican kids.
But its rare in soccer for that type of kid to make it big, most of them are from suburbs with well-off parents.
but we talking aBOUT THE US do they care about this
@@nofurtherwest3474 Clint can state an issue but I don't think he understands the complexities behind solving it. Just general statements don't make a difference.
@@BakerClassics i'm sure he understand the complexities far more than you. he was in the system, and the England system for years. So you should humble yourself to him.
I'm pretty sure he has more details but that's not for a short youtube interview.
And no it's not that complicated.
My kid plays club soccer, but you know what, I've seen kids just as good as him that learned from playing pickup in the park. This isn't rocket science bud.
@@nofurtherwest3474 going to play college soccer is NOT "making it big" I'm sorry but that's laughable. College soccer is Academy/U23 level soccer. Nothing more. The real success stories in American soccer are not rich kids, they are the children of former footballers (e.g. Reyna, Pulisic) or children of immigrants (e.g. Almiron).
Clint's comment regarding the "pay to play" is quite a resounding condemnation - and accurate. Youth soccer in the US is not serving well. Too many young players who could potentially be outstanding players are effectively excluded from advancing their soccer career because they can't afford to play in the better leagues and organizations.
story of my life
@@abdouudagoon1219😢😢
Also Football and basketball
@@Bruss813 this is the case with baseball , thats why football and basketball are so popular in america
this is the exact issue with playing baseball in the us
Jozy is so emotional bro needs to take accountability for their lost .. he was part of that team … can’t take criticism
hes delusional as well him alone could' ve have started for trinidad . but STILL making excuses. like its ok bro its been awhile now, just take accountability lol
He is saying, why are you saying that.
where was the emotional part? Everything he said makes sense. He even said that his team wasn’t good enough. He’s taken, deserved, criticism for literally years. He was front and center as a lightning rod for the failure, when youve got guys like omar gonzalez walking around scot-free after scoring an owngoal during trinidad 😂
The pay to play system is the biggest obstacle to youth development.
I disagree. All US sports are pay-to-play at the youth level from Baseball Little League to AAU Basketball. The issue is that those selected to play in US youth soccer are often people with connections or foreigners (no not children of immigrants, actual foreign players that come to America to take away opportunities from our players because they got boxed out of European or South American academies). US Youth soccer will develop once we stop giving away opportunities to other kids AND we start pushing multi-sport athletes to take soccer seriously. In the US our best athletes are multi-sport athletes.
I agree. My family did not have the time money to even be able to consistently put me or my siblings in non-competitive rec-leagues let alone the well-connected youth club/travel teams. I played in high school (a system not integrated into US Soccer’s system at all) but unfortunately the quality of coaching was abysmal. When thinking about how to play the college route there was no support coming from the school and local colleges were charging upwards of $800 to attend their combines/ showcases something my family could not afford.
Altidors ego is so big he’s incapable of admitting he was part of the failure not qualifying to the World Cup. The man is incapable of receiving any kind of criticism.
i feel like the whole gio reyna’s mom and berhalter situation sums up the way soccer is run here
soccer in the us is just a nepotism game where 60% of national team players and administrators are gonna be from new jersey and they get chances because their dad played with this coach or that coach.
also there’s no positives to missing a world cup appearance. all it is is a hole in the record of our national soccer team. it could have gotten some of our young players much needed world cup game experience.
Gio Reyna deserved minutes at the world cup. Instead Berhalter gave minutes to Morris and Shaq Moore. MLS trash. Nowadays Gio is a lockstart at the 10. That should have been the case in Qatar. The Reynas methods were wrong but not without reason.
But Reyna is good
If he was THAT good why isn’t he starting for club?
@@craigschnappinger6200he was injured earlier this season
@@craigschnappinger6200Bench but in the squad for Dortmund is still miles superior to MLS
That comment from Donovan about going to MLS instead of Milan is absolutely wild, I’m sorry
You aren’t alone, that was crazy and stupid of him, it would be a massive step back for pulisic if he considered his opinion.
Donovan’s problem was that he’d rather be a big fish in a small pond thn compete against the best. He couldnt hack it in europe outside of a decent half season loan in the EPL and his fanboys act like he was a world beater.
@@cntsingbutigtsol To be fair Donovan has been on this show and directly talked about and tried to expand upon what he meant by the statement. In regards to him not being able to hack it in Europe I disagree. He had the quality to be in Europe just chose what made him happier and what allowed him to play consistently. I dont blame him one bit but would have been a interesting what if.
Donovan still thinks you can improve at the same rate in MLS vis a vis Europe if you just get more playing time in the US league. Maybe in a one to one basis but overall the depth of US Soccer is based on going to where the best competition is.
Yeah go to the MLS from arguably the 2nd greatest team in all of football, ever...
This is the level of conversation i expect out of these people but rarely see!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!!! I wish you would adopt this serious in depth, intelligent commentary on network TV instead of the silly self aggrandizing jokes that make you all look a lot less intelligent than you are!!!!!!!!!! Please treat Americans with more respect as far as what we can handle in soccer commentary!!! Stop dumbing it down, It is why i am forced to watch the UA-cam commentators over network TV. they come across much more intelligent and sophisticated. This presentation proves you guys actually do care. As well as smart!
As a Mexican soccer fan.. I feel for the US, because all their issues are very similar to Mexico's. The media and the management have done a horrible job, always criticizing the players and hiring coaches that don't know how to set up a formation or the players that deserve to start.
Ours is worse I don’t see Mexico progressing past the quinto partido. I mean they got rid of relegation. We’re screwed.
As an american, don't feel sorry for us. We americans have pride and honor no matter what. We don't want your pity. It is very insulting to us.
@Trancymind All he said was both federations are a mess.
That’s why Mexico should’ve defeated Honduras so that in that way, USA still had a chance to make it to the playoffs & face Australia instead
@@FernandoCruz-np9ev A Mexico draw against Honduras would have eliminated Honduras on the spot while USA would have faced Australia BUT USA should have never been put in that situation with their own talent.
There were many little fingers to point at but overall the US became super complacent for about a decade leading up to 2018. In prior generations (2002) it was somewhat countered with grit and determination but by the time 2016 came, there was so many USMNT players walking around thinking they were top caliber players because they played on a mid/bottom-table team in a European league. To their acknowledgement, there should have been more younger players bumping many members of that squad to the bench
Best comment…you nailed it. That 2018 squad had a cockiness that was totally unjustified.
Jozy Altidore and Clint Dempsey, thank you guys very much for keeping it 100%!!! I am from Trinidad and Tobago and yes, we did feel offended. The media did everything to disrespect us. Shaka Hislop said it best on ESPN FC.
That team had Jozy Altidore on it, enough said.
But he said why are you saying thst.
lmao exactly. So many people are unrealistic and over-hype bad American players. I remember a couple years back we had Josh Sargent as our main striker and people would call you a "hater" if you said anything bad about him 🤣
@@baller84milw Sargent is still our number 2 or three striker. he did better than ferriera and haji in world cup.
@@maxmaxie1328 You should've seen him at Norwich. I remember one time he was on a fast break with 40 yards between him and the last defender yet he still caught up and tackled him. He's mid, perhaps even worse than average.
McKennie, Musah and Adams should be a very solid 3 midfield. They played at a high level in 22 but notably failed to track back against the Netherlands and this showed a lack of communication and connection with the center backs.
They also have good outside backs, at least good enough to make it far in knockout.
Pulisic is an actual star, but he needs a role carved out for him to thrive.
The weakness is the center backs and the forward line.
With the type of athletes that are practically mass-produced in the USA, it has always been mind-boggling that we can’t develop a strong striker to run in behind and win aerial duels. It’s a mystery.
Weah?
Cause all our best "physical specimens" play american football or basketball.
@@thefacelessquestion3333 weah has poor timing on his runs in most matches and lacks the frame to threaten opposing defenders with anything other than his pace
@@jbo4547 I’m not necessarily talking about DK Metcalf… look at Luca Toni or even Mark Viduka or someone like that… in 30 years we’ve never had anyone like either of those guys
@jbo4547 Because both sports pay big money in this country. MLS salaries are insulting thus this country gets what it pays for.
she has to be one of the best interviewers out there... she talks very little and just lets them go talk indefinitely... that's a sign of a really really good interviewer
Ferrira can’t do it at the international level 😂
that would explain why he is stuck playing at the MLS
The main reason why the USMNT failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup was because they were arrogant and full of themselves.From their coach to their media was arrogant and full of themselves.Added to that the disrespect they showed towards Trinidad & Tobago was the breaking point for them and they made the US team ate humble pie.
They flat out weren’t good enough. Talent wise or technically as a squad.
Yea but that’s Americans in general so what can you do
People forget that goal by Alvin Jones in the Trinidad game was World Class. It even got stuck in the corner of the net.
Exactly.That was an unforgettable goal.
No cap. It was an absolute heater.
USA were already down 1-0 at that point.
Alvin and chipmunks
I hope these guys know they’re legends in their own right
Well said Clint
I enjoyed this conversation. They were way more nuanced than I expected.
The team has no true identity or continuity since Kilnsmann left. And, they are right, they should have qualified weeks before, not needing that one point for that game.
had no identity during klinnsman reign. he destroyed a lot of the team cohesion.
As a 🇹🇹 this video made my day 😅. Payback for 1989, sweet USA trears.
And as someone from the USA I love my national team but Trinis are wonderful people thus when we lose to you guys it's not as painful.
Rather lose to Trinidad than Mexico any day
These guys are awesome
Advising someone to sign for a MLS club rather than signing for a legendary Italian side that has 7 European Cups to their name should be some kind of crime.
Having grown up eating and breathing football in the UK and now spending the past forty years in the US, I can see a lot of sense in what they said. I still believe American players need to play with good competition to get better. Also, the US needs to play tougher teams in between WC’s. You can’t expect to go to the WC and expect to do well unless you have a gauge at where the team is at. You won’t get that playing Jamaica, Trinidad, Canada and El Salvador among others.
Travel in our hemisphere is VERY different than Europe as the USA is continental sized.
We cannot fly to several South American countries in less than 7-8 hours from many of our cities and logistically it would be a nightmare. CONCACAF is a very weak federation but geographically it's all we've got.
Because the coach kept putting Altidore out there.
7:40 That is such a dumb comment from Dozy. I’m so glad they that laughed at him after his reaction to the follow question about Donovan saying Pulisic should of chose MLS over Milan.
There are never positives about missing a world cup
The main problem was that us team on that day, they acted like they already qualified. They treated the game like a meaningless friendly
right you don’t treat it meanless it
I remember when England didn’t qualify for 94 and Netherlands didn’t qualify for 2002. All countries go through ups and downs. People overreacted to a lot of USA not qualifying
They play against tuff teams my guy USA way to the World Cup is easy we should always make it compared to those countries
All of them still hate each other. Lol
Trinidad to the world 😂😂😂
Clint is absolutely right and I applaud him for admitting his fault.
Klinsmann preached that his team stay in Europe and maintain the highest possible level no matter what. Bradley, Altidore, Dempsey, Howard, etc all chose to cash out instead of staying at the highest competitive level.
It's not Klinsmann fault that USA failed to qualify. Sure he lost the 2 first games. But once Arena got the job, he had 8 games to write that wrong. The last game was all Arena. That old squad won a Gold Cup that same year. And with an A squad couldnt beat Trinidad away.
Klinsmann didn't fail the US. The players chose money over high level.
And lets be honest, people forget that we had the hardest opening 2 games in WCQ up to that point, sure it was mexico at home in Columbus Yada Yada, but playing our biggest rivals at home followed by what was our second biggest rivals at that time who had questionable the best player in CONCACAF, as well as a stadium that historically we have never won at, JK should've been given more time
MORE PLEASE!!!!!!!!
What a load of rubbish. The players (and the coach, especially Klinsmann for putting them in that position - and he actually has a very poor record as a manager) have to take more ownership and stop trying to pass the blame on to others. How can youth development be the reason that a team loses to a much weaker team? When USA made the quarter-finals of the 2002 WC was it because the youth development was better then?
Uh yeah there is a lot of talent that gets passe by. Do you really think the best kids only come from the wealthy suburbs? Not in France they don't. Or in Brazil. You don't know what you're talking about.
@@nofurtherwest3474the trend most of the world is poorer communities often produce the best players.
Donovan is a goober for thinking that Pulisic should have gone to MLS rather than AC Milan
Nobody cares what Donovan thinks 😂
MLS WAS absolutely partially culpable for this loss. MLS is still a very ordinary league.
And continue to be a stereotypical retirement league
Nice work y’all
Klinsmann should never have got fired! The entire system is broken. Pro Leagues are awful. No promotion and relegation etc etc. Clint Dempsey speaks with intelligence and simplicity!
Why is Prima Donna injured prone Jozy talking
Altidore and Dempsey where fire.
Altidore asking "Why should we have won that game vs T&T" shows exactly why he left Europe in the prime of his career & it represents a lot of the USA players, it's their poor mentalities.
Sure, they had the quality to win but didn't, so you have to think about the 'why'. And while Klinsmann lost the plot, you could literally see it & his reaction with all the players LEAVING more competitive environments, including the captains, for not as strong competition (MLS). Jozy's point is interesting because basically he's saying "Yes we came back but other players should have pushed harder." And it's true. Players had to do whatever they could to PUSH players like Altidore, etc. OUT of the setup. And a way to do that might be to prove it against better competition than what exists in MLS. So I agree but in another way think it's an inadvertent statement about the lack of leadership (by example) of the senior players on the side ditching higher competition for lower.
Legend
I have heard of code switching but whatever Kate is doing with that accent is on another level
Did jozy seriously ask if they should have been expected to win that game
He’s right you never go into a match “expecting” to win
@@JGL98 my comment wasn’t about the team’s mindset, it was about the media’s opinion
yes you do. Every competitor goes into a match expecting to win, that's a winners mentality. I played college american football, if we lost, I felt angry for 2 days afterward. It's the belief that your preparation is what's going to get you to victory.@@JGL98
Only 728 likes???? Come on, this was great!
His first touch, next topic.
US needs to embrace soccer more.
Pay to play! Clint straight up said it! The grassroot problem with US development!
Altidore is a such 🤡 . "wHy wEre wE sUppoSe tO WiN ThAt gAmE? Cause your playing to qualify for a world cup , cause you were the better team , cause it's your last world cup. You'd think a dude who never showed up at a world cup would try the hardest to get them there . Instead Dude gets tight that people expect them to win 😂😂
Exactly. Jozy answered the entire premise of this video right there. Remember this is one of the "veterans" of the squad that had to get carried across some puddles befofe the match
Adore and Clint were pretty great, but y'all were around the time of Zidane and brazillian ronaldo, so the challenge was tougher than today
In my opinion, even if the USMNT qualified for the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia, I still think they'll be bounced out of the group stages given their poor record of 0W-1D-9L in European soil FIFA World Cups.
Missing Russia 2018 was the best thing that could've happened to the USMNT.
Panama got destroyed by Belgium England EVEN Tunisia
And if they made the playoff round maybe against Australia and potentially win it they woulda been also wrecked by Mbappe and France maybe Denmark and only win against Peru
No it wasn’t. It felt incomplete without them. Same goes for the Netherlands & Italy
@@FernandoCruz-np9ev At least the USMNT has some accolades after missing Russia 2018. Ditto for Italy.
Jozy can't possibly be wondering why we thought we should expect to beat T&T? A team whose budget is a fraction of ours? A team that was at bottom of the table. Who had not won a single game scoring 5 goals all Hex and was stocked with players from 3rd and 4th tier leagues. Even their fans didn't believe in the team as the attendance was about 1,500. We had players representing the MLS champions, as well as the best outfield player in all CONCACAF at the time with Pulisic scoring 7 goals AND 7 assists in the campaign. This was a major upset and there is no getting around that fact.
Clint is correct. Nuf said.
I feel like Deuce lost an opportunity to drop a “We don’t know who we are, dawg!”
My friends son played on a youth team that won a national championship, he was white and lived in NYC and they had money. All the team members were rich
My brother used to play at the highest level. They were a team made up of 90% Colombians from queens and they always had to face so many hurdles to get where they were instead of receiving help from the higher ups in soccer. It was such a joke and so expensive to just play some soccer.
why us it like that?
@@JohnJo-qn7wq because money talks, if you’re amazing and don’t have money to join the private travel team then you don’t get exposure. Some other white kid will
I agree. My family did not have the time money to even be able to consistently put me or my siblings in non-competitive rec-leagues let alone the well-connected youth club/travel teams. I played in high school (a system not integrated into US Soccer’s system at all) but unfortunately the quality of coaching was abysmal. When thinking about how to play the college route there was no support coming from the school and local colleges were charging upwards of $800 to attend their combines/ showcases something my family could not afford.
that house is sick
I remember seeing plenty of people calling out the US federation for having a good deal to do with what happened.
Before I forgot, balogun too
Well one of the biggest reasons was YOU Jozy.
whys that? he and Clint have the most WC qualifying goals? Look at mfs like Omar Gonzalez
Dempsey is the only guy I wanna hear from this crew.
It literally pains me to say this, but these guys don’t know how to win. The sound like teenagers, blame on everything but themselves lol.
this is tense lol
Great to hear this unfiltered commentary from those on the inside. I guess I am inferring that there was a disconnect between European and MLS players. It's too bad, as though I am not in the dressing room and they are, the players on that squad didn't seem to have "arrogance." Still tough to explain no result against T&T. But, I think we do have a lot of quality young players looking to 2026.
Bro,they were arrogant.The US team has always been arrogant and full of themselves.The sad thing is that they still haven't learn from that loss from T&T.Cuz from the media to the coach acts like that loss never happened.
We will have to see what happens on Thursday to see if that debacle will repeat itself, but it really shouldn’t happen twice. And for the future, the fandom refuses to forget that disaster, and the media shouldn’t either so they never get cocky like this again
The real reason?!?!?!
USMNT did not score enough goals. End of story.
Once again, people keep getting Landon's comment wrong. He said if you are an MLS team and you strive to be a top level league, go out and try to get the top players to get to that level. At least try to get Pulisic if you want to be on that level.
And no, playing on the BENCH on a big European club is not going to make you better. No matter how good the talent is that you are watching from the sidelines. It's ridiculous.
I'm a little league coach and I see it from the beginning stages!! It's pay to play!! Academies are stacked with kids who's parents can afford the price and the travel!!!!! The kids who play the regular grassroots level, some are STARS but can't afford the academy teams. Some grassroots teams can literally crush Academy teams!!!Academy teams and coaches at those lower levels, thumb their noses at grassroots players instead of actively scouting and bringing them in without the money.. Bottom line, continuously look for those hidden talents, get rid of the pay to play if you discover star players. To build a soccer nation, you can't handicap the kids that can't afford to get into Academy programs....
what the mls academy doing aren't they scouting real talent and could the kids play d1 the ones that are poor ?
@@JohnJo-qn7wq the ones that are poor, some do play D-1 college soccer but most don't go on that far because they either lose interest or never get exposed to high level scouts.. many factors happen but ultimately it is up to the kid if he or she wants to make pro level soccer...
Because every coach after Klinsmann has been an utter clown.
Edit: Maurice trying to flex with his yellow bear dunks by getting them in every shot😂
US Soccer stop blaming pay-to-play. The NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL, don't complain about how expensive their youth sports are. Instead US Soccer needs to focus on marketing and development programs that make soccer one of the primary sports played by young MULTI-SPORT athletes. MJ played baseball, basketball, football. Lebron's primary sport was football, he started playing basketball as he went into middle school and finally committed to it once he realized he could go to the NBA directly from HS. Patrick Mahomes played baseball, basketball, and football. I can go on. You guys get the idea. Stop trying to emulate other soccer cultures. We have our own athletic culture when it comes to excellence. Let's apply it to this sport and dominate in 2026!
You're argument is a non sequitar as your premise is based on a false analogy. The global game, including the long established soccer powers, do NOT play a pay-to-play system. Further, you cannot compare the American sports leagues to the rest since they don't operate on that model nor do they even play the same sport. One assumption you may be holding is that the American way can somehow revolutionize the game, but that's not going to happen on account of the fact that it's been at least 35-40 years of a serious attempt at youth development and almost 30 years of MLS. The American is not the right way.
"Put out in the media," remember, was by U.S. Soccer.
But y'all time was fire, but got more tough challenge with a very good opponent teams too
Can we just make Clint the head coach of the USMNT?!
someone needs to tell Beerholder that he continues to be mediocre
Youth youth youth youth
Jozy got a lot of attitude but nothing to say
It is called ego.
I'm not American and I still think Altidore should have been in the 2022 USMNT squad. There wasn't a player with his very powerful and tall No. 9 profile who can take two defenders on him. And create space for his wingers.
PREACH!!! The average of that that group was likely 30+ not 25+. SPAM goes hard Deuce!
Jurgen Klinsmann nailed the problem with USMNT when he quit.
He didn't quit. He was fired.
They need to develop thru MLS and get the teams paid. But first, make it free to play travel and UDP. Its a rich kid sport. Cosching, development and playing with competitive teams is expensive in the US. Look at Japan for an example imo
I always wonder why nagbe didn't play again for usmnt
This has always been the problem in the US same with Mexico who are we suppose to beat when usmnt has been mediocre and nothing has been accomplished but our media sell smoke and egos grow then get hammered on int stage
we could beat the footballing minnows in other continents like asia, i can think of a few countries there the USMNT would stomp all over lol, but then again we dont wanna be using our performance against them as a benchmark of where we're really at right?
Ok I've said thid before, the U.S style of play on the pitch is very much a run and gun. Their is no innovation, no elegance, no strategy. Just long ball and a foot race to it. No through balls, no angles, no teamwork. It is embarrassing, and that fact that people say oh I'm proud of our boys when they get crushed by a dutch team who I said before the game was going to happen because of the reasons I just mentioned. Im sorry but US has way better talent that Pulisic out there and it needs to do a better job finding that talent.
Installing futsal nets on every basketball court in poor neighborhoods would go a long way toward developing better players in the US.
I think they wanted to drag jordan morris into this but took the high road 😂. Morris is the poster child of what usmnt represented. Decent player, wealthy, well connected, soft mommas boy who plateaued at the mls level but continues to get caps
Jordan Morris is an abysmal player on a technical level either way. Going to Europe would've just exposed his obvious weaknesses.
The Media had no issue with why they didn’t qualify. Have u seen the Argentina Media? How ruthless they’ve been with Messi and the entire Team?… And after all that they won it all! ALL! 🏆🏅
Kate putting on the accent
Yo I thought I was losing my mind for a sec, wtf is she doing?
@jimfarley8542 there is a clip of here on the Champions League show, where she claims she adopts accents
I'll always feel sad for Edu because he should be in that small group of World Cup goal scorers.
Jozy is just tired of South Florida kids like himself being overlooked and people under estimating Caribbean talent.
Kate Abdo changed up her accent for this interview.
Coming from a guy that never showed up…
Nobody talking about what a trash pitch that T&T played on ..that made a massive difference lol. When you play on sloppy pitches it just equalizes talent to a massive degree. The quicker guys are running in mud negating one of their big advantages. The fact Concacaf allows their teams to have pitches like that is a joke. I've seen it at a number of central american stadiums, just absolute 3rd world level of pitches that they have no drainage. That's an embarrassment. Canada literally just played there and the field had like a foot of water on it so they delayed the game 1 day and Canada was forced to play on slop. Mexico, US and Canada are the only places I've seen where the pitches rarely get to those kind of unplayable conditions.
We weren't sending our boys and their corporate dollars to a Russian World Cup plain and simple😂😂😂
Why the Kate Abdo is going on??
She has an American accent😂
You know what I'm sayin? No ragrets.
Bros, pullistic, sergino dest, gio rena, weah, and mckinnie are top 5 in europe right now, I say right now. Those guys are gonna set the 2026 world cup on fire
The top 5 players in Europe?! Surely you can’t be saying that geez….
@@westington1believe it man, these usmnt fans be delusional as hell.
@@jozif7146 I mean I know it’s ingrained in the culture to think America is the bestest at everything, but next level delusion to think those guys are anywhere the top 5 footballers in the world, let alone those guys being the actual 1-5 best in the European leagues. Most ain’t even top 5 at their club 😂😂
This isn’t to say the U.S won’t do well at the World Cup, as it’s very possible, but they are no where near being amongst the favourites, and that’s for a good reason.
I would be comfortable placing a little outside bet on them, as you’ll get good odds at bookmakers, but again, the odds are the way they are for good reason
Look at the guys up there speaking. Those are some of the best soccer players the US has ever produced but in comparison to other pro athletes from the their country, they’d rank near the bottom…we don’t have our best athletes playing the sport.
When Klinsmann cut Landon Donovan off the roster, that’s when the USA failed
Serious question , was Charlie and the other guys in the room , considered as good player when they played lol ?
Charlie Davies yeah, before the accident he was really good.
jozy's takeaways:
1. leaving Europe and going to MLS is okay
2. we shouldn't have won against T&T in 2017.
this is projecting level 100
Yet he and Bradley won MLS Cup with Toronto FC in 2017
@ademirsegura6307 please Sebastian Giovinco won them that MLS cup
The REAL reason the USMNT failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup was because numbskull coach Bruce Arena started his favorite gonzo centerback from their days with the LA Galaxy, Omar Gonzales (who by that time had gone to play in Liga MX) instead of Geoff Cameron, who was playing in the English Premier League. Omar was well known for his guaranteed 2-3 brain farts per game (much like Zack Steffan later on), and he killed the USMNT qualification chances by scoring an own goal. Had the score been tied 1-1 instead of 1-2, the USMNT would have advanced.
THANK YOU! Its like people forgot about Omar Gonzalez
Then he put a HEAVY MLS roster instead of a mix batch and especially the players who are close or over 30 years old
@@ademirsegura6307 Well, it's a bit more complicated than that. MLS was very complicit in the failure of the 2018 qualification, but this was mainly because several of the key players from the 2014 campaign were sucked in by MLS after the 2014 World Cup. Because of the success of the USMNT in the 2014 campaign, MLS was able to get better deals and got a lot richer and so brought in Tim Howard, Dempsey, Bradley, and Altidore (as well as Jermaine Jones, who was not on this T&T match roster) on these special "designated player" deals. These players basically got WORSE playing in MLS, but were still either starters or subs in this match. Because of MLS, there were a lot fewer Euro-based top players at the time. MLS during this time had also offered easier opportunities for younger players - those who chose to go and stay in MLS, like Acosta and Arriola, never developed fully, never amounted to true international quality. MLS's worst crime during this period of time was by far its mal-development of the young American players - almost 10-15 years worth of young American players were lost to MLS as a result and became useless MLS scrubs.
Arena chose to play these MLS scrubs and Omar Gonzales (who was in Liga MX at the time but an Arena favorite from his time with the LA Galaxy) instead of Premier League based Geoff Cameron and Tim Ream (Ream had joined Fulham, who were in the Championship at the time). And so the only Euro-based players who played in the match were Bobby Wood, Yedlin, and Pulisic. When you look at the list of MLS scrubs who were in this match, you can easily see how and why this team lost - Darlington Nagbe, Paul Arriola, J. Villafana were STARTERS in this match, and Acosta and Feilhaber were subs.
Bobby wood and Jozy were our strikers lol put a 18 year old from a 1st division high school instead of