I literally sold boat loads of TV's as a sales associate (Walmart so no commission) using this guy's knowledge. I never wanted to sell products that I didn't have faith in.
@@93836 why tho , you should know your product before buying dont jjst get to a tv shop and buy one lol look it up do research it still amazing me people buying products like this with no research and faith in someone who’s job is to sell you anything for the most money
Still, ther is so many snake oil sellers out there in the world. I stod next to a seller in a big electronics store, telling a old man how much improvment 120 Hz would have on the news channel on the cable. "Much better picture flow"..
Since there’s no time stamps and this video is a bit lengthy, he’s basically saying the following for most people: -4K on -Allow YCC 4:2:2 off -Select the 10 bit video output setting -Select the Auto-HDR setting -Select the Standard (Recommended) setting over PC RGB And he also concluded that the failure to do these things might make your games appear blurry and pixelated, much like how private parts are depicted in Japanese Hentai movies.
@Get3Blocked actually yes, but only because Microsoft kinda sucks. When you set the output too high the screen looks like crap. It COULD be that the games released so far can’t handle that output as well, but for now - this does seem to be the best settings. Btw I’ve run into not one of these issues on my PS5. Even though under the hood the Series X appears to be stronger, as of right now the PS5 is the superior machine.
@@jjmah7 I have had both consoles since launch, your delusional if you think PS5 is superior. It has less power, no auto HDR, no VRR, no smart delivery. It is useful for the exclusives and that is it. I would never buy a third party game on PS5.
@@Mr_Zod some what you said is flat out incorrect, but nothing you mentioned have been shown to make it superior. Many of the major releases that have been released on both consoles have been performance tested by Digital Foundry, and almost all of them run better on PS5, they attribute a lot of the reasoning being that Sony made a custom SSD that is just better. All the other ‘power levels’ that are better on paper have yet to be fully realized as of now. Maybe they will be in the future, but as of now games both look and perform better on PS5. Maybe next time you should try to not look at Microsoft propaganda and look at the actual data results from testing before you spout out your bullshit.
I must say I actually found this very informative despite not having a CX. Particularly because I’ve always wondered what on earth YCC and colour space settings even did!
The game that sold me on HDR was Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Valhalla didn't do much in HDR, but Odyssey was extremely more playable and enjoyable in HDR. Not sure why, but you'd have to see it and play the difference to understand.
I stopped playing games on pc for these 2 main reasons. Upgrading to get the best settings and messing around with settings to make sure it runs properly. What happened to the good old days where you buy a console and just plug and play. So much calibration is now needed.
Agreed. Tbh, I found much of this video bewildering. I don't really need to know how stuff works, I just want to know which settings to enable/disable to give me the optimum picture.
@@karlsavage7495 i lay the blame with the console makers taking the consoles into pc territory. The console through hdmi should automatically give the optimum setting.
Correction on the auto HDR explanation. It does not force the TV into HDR for every game. Only select games support the auto HDR feature. SDR games that do not support auto HDR will still be SDR even with that box checked.
@@SnappingTurtle90 From first hand experience using my xbox. On games that do not support auto HDR or HDR your TV will not go into HDR mode. On games that do support auto HDR your tv will go into HDR mode.
Xbox confirmed they'll support Dolby Vision for games in 2021, at this point it's only supported for Netflix and Disney+. As for HDR10+ they said they'll listen to consumers and manufacturers, and issued no further comment.
Only trouble with Dolby vision for games is that it doesn't use gaming mode or instant game response. So its laggy af. Using Dolby vision on series x for Netflix is super delayed on the button presses.
@@scoobyhawk9302 What do you mean? LG OLEDs have a Dolby Vision game mode separate from the HDR10 game mode. It’s up to other manufacturers to add a DV game mode too but it’s definitely possible. If Sonys don’t have it then I guess it’ll depend on whether they bring DV to the PS5 since I don’t see Sony adding a feature that helps out their competition.
i learned something new today: keeping the console on 12 bits on C9 (supporting 12 bits) was outputing actually an 8 bits ... thank Vincent for the top tip of using the 10 bits. Looks like CX owners can be happy now.
@@marianobuonocorelive22 no 8 is not 10...hence the different number. 10 is better because more color information is passed. You didnt say why you want to stick at 8 bit so it seems nonsensical to want less !?!?
You are insanely informative and well educated regarding whatever it is you are talking about, so it’s easy to understand what you are saying whilst retaining and comprehending the information you are giving us! Thank you so much!!
@@Joe_doesnt_know If you don't know what's hentai then you might want to have a talk with your parents about how babies are made. I am not in the position to break that to you.
This man is a legend. I just bought the LG CX and ran through a couple of your videos and now my setup with my Series X is hotter than a 2 dollar pistol. Thank you!!!
Vincent, I recently discovered your channel and I wanted to thank you for the amazing content you produce. It was unbelievable sitting here, listening to you talking, hearing you answering questions from comments on your other video, some that I (and many others I'm sure) had asked. You absolutely explained everything I needed to know, in a technical, yet easy to understand way. I'm a mechanic, and am just getting into the tech world so to speak, and I am grateful for content creators such as yourself. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
Great video. I believe the reason that the LG does not display the 12-bit color setting is because LG OLEDs are manufactured as 10-bit panels and the HDMI 2.1 ports have the same bandwidth limitations as the Series X.
@@retropulse03 Explaining that setting the xbox so 60 htz will limit the TV to and games to 6p htz is pointless in the sense that it's pretty obvious. There no point in wasting time in explaining that for like 10 mins
@@harrison00xXx I’ve been gaming on PC for 30 years, assassins creed Valhalla looks great on series X. Both of the next gen consoles can produce great visuals.
I absolutely love the commentary as we’re going through this. Makes all the dry material much easier to palette given that it’s fun to listen to The commentary that goes along with it. Well done.
i think it would be dont allow ycc 422, 12 bit colour depth. this works perfectly at 4k60. i checked it on this calculator thing he mentioned. it is at 13.34 gb/s so it works (18 is the limit of hdmi 2.0)
I had accidentally set Standard on my Xbox One's color space, but I am playing on a monitor, and switching to PC RGB made the screen truly come to life, with much deeper blacks and higher perceived saturation in the colors. I also switched to 8 bit as my panel is only an 8 bit panel anyways, which helped my Xbox run more smoothly.
I upgraded from a 60inch 1080p tv to a 4k 120hz LG monitor about 2 months ago and for some reason the picture quality looked worse. I only just realized the other day it’s because I was rendering in 12 bit with YCC 422 enabled. Once I turned it back to 8bit 444 my games look infinitely better now.
I think it would be useful to do a similar video but using a hdmi 2.0 TV instead (e.g Sony AG9) so we know the best settings to use for displays limited to 18Gbps bandwidth.
10 bit setting triggers hdr on my TV. Since I have different settings for sdr and hdr I'd leave it 8 bit since it will switch automatically to 10 or 12 bit accordingly depending on the source. PS. Thank you for the guide though, really helpful
When I first stumbled across HDTVtest I couldn't imagine that a channel solely dedicated to TVs could offer many interesting/fun to watch videos. (Disclaimer: I don't even own a TV and don't watch movies/series.) But your engaging and fun way (Bing!) of presentation and in-depth knowledge made me sub . Keep it up!
Important caveat for those also using their XSX as a streaming box for Netflix, Prime, etc. If you have VRR and ALLM selected in the settings, the XSX forces all content, including video streaming apps, into ALLM/IGR (not just games). When VRR is off and only ALLM is selected, IGR works correctly and only engages during gaming content.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve noticed the BT Sport app works correctly but no others do, even the dashboard forces to IGR. Wonder if this can be patched?
Thanks! Your information has made me decide to not jump the gun on a new tv. I have a 55” LG B7 and I’m just going to wait til the new year to see what comes out. It’s only 2 months away, I can do it lol.
Very informative, thanks! I have the One X and the settings are pretty much the same. The only thing I'm doing differently is the color space: I'm using PC RGB instead of Standard because I'm using a computer monitor and not a TV. I tried both modes for a while and PC RGB looks undoubtedly better on my screen.
came for the basic content, ended up learning a lot about how new tech works, love it. Thank you for going to such length of explanation got urself a sub.
if i may ask, how can i know if my monitor is RGB full or limited ? i cant seem to find that information. I got a new monitor if anyone could help. Samsung UR55 4k freesync HDR10 monitor
Thank you very much Vincent! Really appreciate this video. Would be very grateful as well if you could do a PS5 version and settings for the LG C9 / CX. Keep up the wonderful work!
The CO is the only display that can use all new features. The fact that sony picked forum VRR is going to be a major issue with HDR. Better off waiting two or three years until devs get familiar with the new consoles while much better displays like micro led and quantum dot oled are out. from my understanding neither essentially LCD displays with an old display in front to increase the brightness of OLED while maintaining the deep blacks. If your going to buy anything at the moment I would get a good gaming monitor as they have been building up to this for years, which is why gsynch ultra or premium is only available on the x box series x for that reason. HDR and VRR is it going to be a nightmare for the PS5. Long video but very technical details of why HDMI 2.1 does not matter at all right now. ua-cam.com/video/uDKU8E9rJOc/v-deo.html
@@lightemup1023 our PS5 still doesn’t have VRR. Im hearing from people that know some other people in high places say, “Don’t expect VRR on PS5 for a while”, but it is being worked on. That Media Tek chip is really hurting the progress
1-Can you explain better why if you disable "allow 4k" you will automatically lose HDR10? It's correlated to the bandwidth downgrade? 2-have you noticed the gamma issue problem with vrr ? 3-wouldn't be better DISABLING VRR AT ALL? The majority of games on consoles have locked fps at 30 or 60, there is no need of a variable refresh rate technology at all, in fact i think that disabling it would benefit a better fluidity by remaining at 120 hz, the tv would repeat frames to match the frequency as it has always been on any console with any tv! 4- thanks for your work! You're the most reliable and knowledgeable person for tvs on UA-cam 🔥🔥👍🏻👍🏻
I feel like you need to do a separate video for majority of people still using a TV that only has HDMI 2.0. It was confusing how you kept switching between the two. From what I gathered using a LGC7 I should disable YCC 422 as it will drop my colour depth to 8bit as I'm stuck at 60 hz refresh rate but if we go back to your Xbox One X settings you recommend enabling YCC 422. I'm so confused
I have last years q85r with one connect and marantz nr1508 receiver and both with my new Xbox series X and Xbox one x, when viewing a blu ray or using the sky app the picture quality is over bright and more importantly the sound is delayed, and adjusting the delay only makes it further out...this is with the hdmi direct to one connect and to my Amp 🤷🏻♂️
I would also like maybe a short video on this maybe just explaining hey use the same settings on the Xbox one x on the series x or whatever. (Older 4K tv 60hz with 8bit frc to 10 or whatever that nonsense is)
I can't help but wonder if the "Allow 4:2:2" option would have perhaps allowed the LG to display *something* at a 12/36-bit color depth. (Instead of dropping all the way down to 4:2:0, and failing to display anything.) Probably not, but I was a little disappointed that Vincent didn't mention whether he had tried that.
The LG TVs have a bug that calls 4:2:2 content as 8-bit even if they are 10-bit or 12-bit. They are true 10-bit and 12-bit but the FreeSync Info secret menu has a bug.
Could you please tell me the absolute difference in HDMI PC Mode vs Console Mode input lag? (If there is) I'm using PC Mode due to your recommendation regarding 4:4:4, but I'm afraid I'm losing input lag. In FPS games like COD every ms of input lag makes an huge.. difference in your advantage during gameplay. (Obviously I'm using game optimizer mode in both cases)
Thanks Vincent for the informative & interesting videos on my newly bought LG C1 65" & XboxSX..! Now I understand from what you are telling us, things that before this was to me just gibberish. (I can now even somewhat understand what the "Host Diagnostics" & the "Freesync/VRR Info tool" is about! )
Awesome video thanks for the tips! Now I wish you would do a video on recommended in game display settings for Ubisoft games because I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to be looking at on my C9
Not only was this incredibly informative, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone use Hentai Censorship as a pixilation example in a tech video. That was great!
All games and applications internally render in full range RGB. The conversion to limited range Standard on the Xbox would be an additional degrading step at the end. The C9 / CX with PC icon supports end-to-end full range RGB / Black Level High without internal YUV conversion. When the Xbox is capable of perpetually running in 10-bit full range RGB mode for both HDR and SDR, I don't understand why you recommend limited range Standard over full-range RGB in the C9 / CX video. If that video was not targeted towards C9 / CX owners, I'd agree.
I think it's obvious. Limited works with all video content like bluray, so you don't need to switch the settings on console when you want to watch a movie. For games it doesn't really matter, they will look the same.
@@rafamuniak You don't need to switch. The player expands limited range videos to full range correctly. If you use limited, the same thing just happens on the TV instead, since virtually all LCD and OLED panels are natively RGB.
Dear Sir, i am from Turkey/Istanbul.. and today i have calibrated my new LG CX and X Box Series X according to your advice. It seems perfect when i am playing COD WARZONE. You are very knowledgeable person but as a random user, we don't need to know too many details. Please produce videos for random people who have not got enough knowledge about calibrations of TVs.. because I don't really understand... still don't know the basic settings about brightness, OLED light, or contrasts...You are producing amazing content but make it basic....please.
Thanks so much i keep playing with settings now i have a series X now I see you adjusting settings Thanks for letting me know about the range im going to full I love the deep blacks. Cheers
Thank for for this informative video. I would highly recommend you to switch on auto HDR to be honest. I've tried it with several games and it looks great. Some games with white text make the text really bright, but the image itself looks stunning. Halo 5 and SoulCalibur VI are great examples of Xbox One games, Lego Star Wars TCS and Sonic Generations are great examples of 360 games, and Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Fuzion Frenzy are great original Xbox examples. These are the ones I've tested to be great. Some have only looked better but not fantastic, but none of them looked worse in my opinion.
Thank you sir! I just got my Series X and set it up this way but I bought a C1 which I'm happy very happy with it just need to find the settings for that TV.
Both the CX and the XBOX Series X had software updates in November and these issues were fixed. I have been running my CX65 at 4K, 120Hz, VRR, HDR, 12-bit, PC RGB with no issues whatsoever. The only broken feature is the AMD FreeSync Premium function on the TV. When enabled, the TV display is darker and Dolby Vision is disabled per the info in your video. Disable this feature and all is good 👍🏻 Having to switch modes when gaming with VRR vs. watching a movie that has Dolby Vision is a pain.
Can’t there just be “Best Possible Options for Your TV/Sound System” button? It would scan what you are using, and the environment lighting and acoustics around it.
I literally sold boat loads of TV's as a sales associate (Walmart so no commission) using this guy's knowledge. I never wanted to sell products that I didn't have faith in.
If all sellers was like you:)
@@93836 why tho , you should know your product before buying dont jjst get to a tv shop and buy one lol look it up do research it still amazing me people buying products like this with no research and faith in someone who’s job is to sell you anything for the most money
Walmart doesn’t have any of the TVs he praises though
Still, ther is so many snake oil sellers out there in the world. I stod next to a seller in a big electronics store, telling a old man how much improvment 120 Hz would have on the news channel on the cable. "Much better picture flow"..
Top man.
Since there’s no time stamps and this video is a bit lengthy, he’s basically saying the following for most people:
-4K on
-Allow YCC 4:2:2 off
-Select the 10 bit video output setting
-Select the Auto-HDR setting
-Select the Standard (Recommended) setting over PC RGB
And he also concluded that the failure to do these things might make your games appear blurry and pixelated, much like how private parts are depicted in Japanese Hentai movies.
@Get3Blocked actually yes, but only because Microsoft kinda sucks. When you set the output too high the screen looks like crap. It COULD be that the games released so far can’t handle that output as well, but for now - this does seem to be the best settings. Btw I’ve run into not one of these issues on my PS5. Even though under the hood the Series X appears to be stronger, as of right now the PS5 is the superior machine.
@Get3Blocked 30bits? What tv do you know is 30bits?
@Get3Blocked are you in 2276
@@jjmah7 I have had both consoles since launch, your delusional if you think PS5 is superior. It has less power, no auto HDR, no VRR, no smart delivery. It is useful for the exclusives and that is it. I would never buy a third party game on PS5.
@@Mr_Zod some what you said is flat out incorrect, but nothing you mentioned have been shown to make it superior. Many of the major releases that have been released on both consoles have been performance tested by Digital Foundry, and almost all of them run better on PS5, they attribute a lot of the reasoning being that Sony made a custom SSD that is just better. All the other ‘power levels’ that are better on paper have yet to be fully realized as of now. Maybe they will be in the future, but as of now games both look and perform better on PS5. Maybe next time you should try to not look at Microsoft propaganda and look at the actual data results from testing before you spout out your bullshit.
I must say I actually found this very informative despite not having a CX. Particularly because I’ve always wondered what on earth YCC and colour space settings even did!
same here
"How Japanese hentai is censored" Explanations I can understand, subscribed.
I don't understand at all. Isn't censored pornography kind of redundant? lol
@@retropulse03illegal in Japan to show nudity I think
I fucking hate that. Why do they think I watch?
he used an example that everyone understands
@@retropulse03 i prefer using imagination over just looking at it. it makes it more interesting
The game that sold me on HDR was Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Valhalla didn't do much in HDR, but Odyssey was extremely more playable and enjoyable in HDR. Not sure why, but you'd have to see it and play the difference to understand.
Love the casual mention of hentai
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I think he missed a big opportunity here.
Even with the latest compression algorithms, some blocking will be more macro than others.
I stopped playing games on pc for these 2 main reasons. Upgrading to get the best settings and messing around with settings to make sure it runs properly. What happened to the good old days where you buy a console and just plug and play. So much calibration is now needed.
Agreed. Tbh, I found much of this video bewildering. I don't really need to know how stuff works, I just want to know which settings to enable/disable to give me the optimum picture.
@@karlsavage7495 i lay the blame with the console makers taking the consoles into pc territory. The console through hdmi should automatically give the optimum setting.
It's not needed. Most likely none of us will really see the difference. You can still just "plug and play" and have a great experience..
i know right. did they not do any r&d with the available tvs on the market?
It's not rocket science, just requires you to use a little bit of your tiny brain.
Correction on the auto HDR explanation. It does not force the TV into HDR for every game. Only select games support the auto HDR feature. SDR games that do not support auto HDR will still be SDR even with that box checked.
Ive looked into this but couldn’t find any concrete evidence. How did you find this out? Thanks
@@SnappingTurtle90 From first hand experience using my xbox. On games that do not support auto HDR or HDR your TV will not go into HDR mode. On games that do support auto HDR your tv will go into HDR mode.
@@bmarcinczyk14I can confirm this
Vincent is the only guy I can watch play about with settings for 27 minutes and not get bored and I haven't even got a series x
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This is a masterpiece of a Tech video, hands down. You're a legend man.
Big facts he brought up LG seals on oleds.... I got one c165in and i love it
Xbox confirmed they'll support Dolby Vision for games in 2021, at this point it's only supported for Netflix and Disney+. As for HDR10+ they said they'll listen to consumers and manufacturers, and issued no further comment.
Yep, Dolby told the press this a few months back. I wish MS would add DV support for Blus too but that’s just wishful thinking.
Wooooooo yeah can’t wait
I figured can't implement that feature at launch without testing it
Only trouble with Dolby vision for games is that it doesn't use gaming mode or instant game response. So its laggy af. Using Dolby vision on series x for Netflix is super delayed on the button presses.
@@scoobyhawk9302 What do you mean? LG OLEDs have a Dolby Vision game mode separate from the HDR10 game mode.
It’s up to other manufacturers to add a DV game mode too but it’s definitely possible.
If Sonys don’t have it then I guess it’ll depend on whether they bring DV to the PS5 since I don’t see Sony adding a feature that helps out their competition.
i learned something new today: keeping the console on 12 bits on C9 (supporting 12 bits) was outputing actually an 8 bits ... thank Vincent for the top tip of using the 10 bits. Looks like CX owners can be happy now.
I am fine but I wanted to know how to put 8 bit or 10 bit is the same thing ?? because I would like to leave 8 bit
@@marianobuonocorelive22 no 8 is not 10...hence the different number.
10 is better because more color information is passed.
You didnt say why you want to stick at 8 bit so it seems nonsensical to want less !?!?
You are insanely informative and well educated regarding whatever it is you are talking about, so it’s easy to understand what you are saying whilst retaining and comprehending the information you are giving us! Thank you so much!!
My man really explained things with hentai. What a god.
What’s hentai.
@@Joe_doesnt_know If you don't know what's hentai then you might want to have a talk with your parents about how babies are made. I am not in the position to break that to you.
@@KraljHD you just made my day. :D
@@dominikarusinova2041 I'm glad I did. That makes me happy too.
@@Joe_doesnt_know *don´t*
This man is a legend. I just bought the LG CX and ran through a couple of your videos and now my setup with my Series X is hotter than a 2 dollar pistol. Thank you!!!
Lol
Vincent, I recently discovered your channel and I wanted to thank you for the amazing content you produce. It was unbelievable sitting here, listening to you talking, hearing you answering questions from comments on your other video, some that I (and many others I'm sure) had asked. You absolutely explained everything I needed to know, in a technical, yet easy to understand way. I'm a mechanic, and am just getting into the tech world so to speak, and I am grateful for content creators such as yourself. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
Thanks for another great video. I adjusted my HDR blacks to 0 and it made a huge difference!
Great video. I believe the reason that the LG does not display the 12-bit color setting is because LG OLEDs are manufactured as 10-bit panels and the HDMI 2.1 ports have the same bandwidth limitations as the Series X.
No found any tv use 12bit
I have a Sony OLED 2019 Master Series and the screen doesn’t go black when I put 12-bit.
Gotta admit, most of this went right over my head.
Watched every minute of the video anyway.
Most of it was pointless.. Soo much time wasted explaining random things which was not necessary
@@f44had He takes the time to educate us on what all this stuff actually means. Not sure how that is pointless...
@@retropulse03 Explaining that setting the xbox so 60 htz will limit the TV to and games to 6p htz is pointless in the sense that it's pretty obvious. There no point in wasting time in explaining that for like 10 mins
@@f44had
He should have made separate videos or at least had time stamps
I always watch this video over and over again, it's just so good
The speed at which I opened the comments once I heard him reference hentai, lmao. The absolute legend.
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Youre not alone 😂
Same 🤣
Same 😂😂
Assassins's Creed Valhalla looks insane good on the Series X. Thanks for the settings
No PC user is wondering since its obvious that all your gaming expirience were consoles?
@King Benjamin ahh thanks, the settings i have make the graphics better than on console, true :D
@@harrison00xXx ... zzZzz
Are you using the PC HDMI input tag?
@@harrison00xXx I’ve been gaming on PC for 30 years, assassins creed Valhalla looks great on series X. Both of the next gen consoles can produce great visuals.
"I wanted to say it was as random as the UK governments Corona Virus Policy" 😂
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That comment got my sub 😀
Calm, cool, and to the point. No BS. Love your content.
I showed this video to my friend who asked about getting the most out of his LG, it makes a night and day difference on some games and movies.
I absolutely love the commentary as we’re going through this. Makes all the dry material much easier to palette given that it’s fun to listen to The commentary that goes along with it. Well done.
Can you make a "best settings for hdmi 2.0" for us less fortunate people?
YES PLEASEEEE!
@@guilhermemaia3959 YES PLEASE x2!!!!
Yes please do! I plan to keep my lg oled65e6 a few more years 😊
i think it would be dont allow ycc 422, 12 bit colour depth. this works perfectly at 4k60. i checked it on this calculator thing he mentioned. it is at 13.34 gb/s so it works (18 is the limit of hdmi 2.0)
@@sergius8495 ill try it!!
I had accidentally set Standard on my Xbox One's color space, but I am playing on a monitor, and switching to PC RGB made the screen truly come to life, with much deeper blacks and higher perceived saturation in the colors. I also switched to 8 bit as my panel is only an 8 bit panel anyways, which helped my Xbox run more smoothly.
Yes I had the same experience, it's night and day different . I was asking him about that and you kinda helped me decide to stay with RBG
@@reapersasmr5483 well, if depends on what you're running. I'm on a TV now and it looks better than my old monitor while being on the Standard preset
@@LLSniper I am on a lg 850 monitor its 1440 p 120 ,hdmi 2.0 or 4k 60 has crap hdr 400 I think
@@reapersasmr5483 oh yeah, definitely run RGB then
For all the people asking about a PS5 version of this, the console is out on the 19th in the UK and Sony didn't send Vincent one :/
I upgraded from a 60inch 1080p tv to a 4k 120hz LG monitor about 2 months ago and for some reason the picture quality looked worse. I only just realized the other day it’s because I was rendering in 12 bit with YCC 422 enabled. Once I turned it back to 8bit 444 my games look infinitely better now.
I think it would be useful to do a similar video but using a hdmi 2.0 TV instead (e.g Sony AG9) so we know the best settings to use for displays limited to 18Gbps bandwidth.
I agree with this.
10 bit setting triggers hdr on my TV. Since I have different settings for sdr and hdr I'd leave it 8 bit since it will switch automatically to 10 or 12 bit accordingly depending on the source. PS. Thank you for the guide though, really helpful
Sitting here with an Xbox series x and a 65in LG CX. Thank you!
Have u had any issues with flickering
@@coconut6787 i am having on e9 LG with VRR on
@@tomekkrr7806 I got my cx on saturday and it's doing it to me
@@tomekkrr7806 have you tried turning off Live + under general settings? Did the trick for me on my C9
@@DeckardManc85 yes this i did as well. Now it is less but still in dark areas there is flickering. LG will work on this.
Thanks for showing me how to switch to a 10bit pipe. You the man.
This man's bit depth explanation is amazing
I hate that too. If you know what I mean.
"that's a mouthful" *ding*
This guy :-D
+1
Defenitly would Appreciate a PS5 version on this Same TV I have both consoles
Yes please.
Agree. Same.
Agreed
How did you land both consoles, fam?
His ps5 broke
When I first stumbled across HDTVtest I couldn't imagine that a channel solely dedicated to TVs could offer many interesting/fun to watch videos. (Disclaimer: I don't even own a TV and don't watch movies/series.)
But your engaging and fun way (Bing!) of presentation and in-depth knowledge made me sub .
Keep it up!
Best tech tv image videos channels ever. Keep it up. There is digital foundry and you! Which speaks a lot!
Fantastic video. As someone who has just purchased an Xbox Series X, I’ll be using these recommended settings for my LG OLED. Thanks!!!
I asked some of these questions in the comments of the last series x settings video. Thank you sir.
Important caveat for those also using their XSX as a streaming box for Netflix, Prime, etc. If you have VRR and ALLM selected in the settings, the XSX forces all content, including video streaming apps, into ALLM/IGR (not just games). When VRR is off and only ALLM is selected, IGR works correctly and only engages during gaming content.
Thanks for the info. We don't recommmend using the streaming apps on the Xbox... use the ones on the TV instead for a better experience.
@@hdtvtest but apps on consoles tend to be better supported with updates over time than on most Smart TV platforms.
@@radjago amen
@@radjago touche
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve noticed the BT Sport app works correctly but no others do, even the dashboard forces to IGR. Wonder if this can be patched?
Quantum TV could learn a thing or two here
This is how you make a INFORMATIONAL video great job bro sensational job on explaining the whole experience step by step
Thanks! Your information has made me decide to not jump the gun on a new tv. I have a 55” LG B7 and I’m just going to wait til the new year to see what comes out. It’s only 2 months away, I can do it lol.
Well done! Please do it for PS5 too!
Ello m8
Ps5 DONT RUN NATIVE 4K. Vlw, Flw
I had YCC 4:2:2 off and I disabled auto HDR. Thanks for the video as always ❤️
Very informative, thanks! I have the One X and the settings are pretty much the same. The only thing I'm doing differently is the color space: I'm using PC RGB instead of Standard because I'm using a computer monitor and not a TV. I tried both modes for a while and PC RGB looks undoubtedly better on my screen.
Same, if I’m gaming on a Monitor, then I use the PC RGB, however if I use lets say the living room TV, a Vizio, I keep it standard.
No idea how this come into my timeline but found this very informative. Thanks
came for the basic content, ended up learning a lot about how new tech works, love it. Thank you for going to such length of explanation got urself a sub.
if i may ask, how can i know if my monitor is RGB full or limited ? i cant seem to find that information. I got a new monitor if anyone could help. Samsung UR55 4k freesync HDR10 monitor
Wow! I am incredibly grateful for the explanations coupled with the demonstrations. Absolutely fantastic! I had to subscribe! :)
Please do these 2 videos for the ps5 with the CX when you can. Thanks!
Vincent: you gonna learn today!
Your existence is a gift to all gamers. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
This man used my secret language of hen-weeb to communicate what bad pixilation is, this man of CULTURE deserves my SUB a 100 times fold.
A very useful video. They way you explain all the video options is Epic. Keep up the great work! 👍
Vincent, what would you prefer now (July 2023) for gaming on the Series X: Dolby Vision or HDR10 (LG C1 btw). Thanks!
Please record a video for the PS5 and the LG CX settings. It would be much appreciated.
I'm eagerly waiting for a video on PS5 too
Once it releases in the UK I'm sure he'll be right on it.
This is the best channel on earth for TV's and monitors. Learning a lot.
Best Video I found on UA-cam about Xbox Series X Settings for TV/Monitors. Thank you so much and best wishes from Germany!
Can you do a (Best settings for LG C1 for Xbox Series X) like you did for PS5?
Wouldn't it be nice if your xbox recognized what TV you were using automatically and set the settings according to your tv's capability.
Damn, i have woundered about these Settings since the ps3.... Tnx.
It was a pleasure watching Urotsukidoji the perfect collection on my JZ2000 💕
Im new to 4K UHD i have Xbox series s does really good 2024 😊
Thank you very much Vincent! Really appreciate this video. Would be very grateful as well if you could do a PS5 version and settings for the LG C9 / CX. Keep up the wonderful work!
The CO is the only display that can use all new features. The fact that sony picked forum VRR is going to be a major issue with HDR. Better off waiting two or three years until devs get familiar with the new consoles while much better displays like micro led and quantum dot oled are out. from my understanding neither essentially LCD displays with an old display in front to increase the brightness of OLED while maintaining the deep blacks. If your going to buy anything at the moment I would get a good gaming monitor as they have been building up to this for years, which is why gsynch ultra or premium is only available on the x box series x for that reason. HDR and VRR is it going to be a nightmare for the PS5. Long video but very technical details of why HDMI 2.1 does not matter at all right now.
ua-cam.com/video/uDKU8E9rJOc/v-deo.html
@@JoshFisher567 why is vrr going to be a nightmare.... it is coming with an update
@@lightemup1023 our PS5 still doesn’t have VRR. Im hearing from people that know some other people in high places say, “Don’t expect VRR on PS5 for a while”, but it is being worked on. That Media Tek chip is really hurting the progress
Please make video of optimum settings for x90H. Many of us have all bought this or the cx.
AGREED!
8:50 lol, not sure if that was supposed to be a joke but you got me good
1-Can you explain better why if you disable "allow 4k" you will automatically lose HDR10? It's correlated to the bandwidth downgrade?
2-have you noticed the gamma issue problem with vrr ?
3-wouldn't be better DISABLING VRR AT ALL?
The majority of games on consoles have locked fps at 30 or 60, there is no need of a variable refresh rate technology at all, in fact i think that disabling it would benefit a better fluidity by remaining at 120 hz, the tv would repeat frames to match the frequency as it has always been on any console with any tv!
4- thanks for your work! You're the most reliable and knowledgeable person for tvs on UA-cam 🔥🔥👍🏻👍🏻
I feel like you need to do a separate video for majority of people still using a TV that only has HDMI 2.0. It was confusing how you kept switching between the two. From what I gathered using a LGC7 I should disable YCC 422 as it will drop my colour depth to 8bit as I'm stuck at 60 hz refresh rate but if we go back to your Xbox One X settings you recommend enabling YCC 422. I'm so confused
Yeah 90% of the people playing these are on hdmi 2.0 TV. I have the q8fn and it runs 1440p 120hz.
I have last years q85r with one connect and marantz nr1508 receiver and both with my new Xbox series X and Xbox one x, when viewing a blu ray or using the sky app the picture quality is over bright and more importantly the sound is delayed, and adjusting the delay only makes it further out...this is with the hdmi direct to one connect and to my Amp 🤷🏻♂️
@@SpectreMK23 so with my oled with 2.1 I should be using 10 bit? But on my 1440 p monitor I should use 8?
With XsX for hdmi 2.0 TVs nothing has changed. With 60Hz enabled it works the same like it did on one x
I would also like maybe a short video on this maybe just explaining hey use the same settings on the Xbox one x on the series x or whatever. (Older 4K tv 60hz with 8bit frc to 10 or whatever that nonsense is)
I can't help but wonder if the "Allow 4:2:2" option would have perhaps allowed the LG to display *something* at a 12/36-bit color depth. (Instead of dropping all the way down to 4:2:0, and failing to display anything.) Probably not, but I was a little disappointed that Vincent didn't mention whether he had tried that.
The LG TVs have a bug that calls 4:2:2 content as 8-bit even if they are 10-bit or 12-bit.
They are true 10-bit and 12-bit but the FreeSync Info secret menu has a bug.
Could you please tell me the absolute difference in HDMI PC Mode vs Console Mode input lag? (If there is) I'm using PC Mode due to your recommendation regarding 4:4:4, but I'm afraid I'm losing input lag. In FPS games like COD every ms of input lag makes an huge.. difference in your advantage during gameplay. (Obviously I'm using game optimizer mode in both cases)
i can confirm on samsung qn90c with hdmi 2.1 fully supported 12bit color no problem issue i tested personally
Thanks Vincent for the informative & interesting videos on my newly bought LG C1 65" & XboxSX..!
Now I understand from what you are telling us, things that before this was to me just gibberish. (I can now even somewhat understand what the "Host Diagnostics" & the "Freesync/VRR Info tool" is about! )
is this the same on c1 we need updated video please
Great video, really easy to follow and practically put! Very nice! Thanks :)
Awesome video thanks for the tips! Now I wish you would do a video on recommended in game display settings for Ubisoft games because I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to be looking at on my C9
Not only was this incredibly informative, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone use Hentai Censorship as a pixilation example in a tech video. That was great!
Hey man, I just wanted to say thank you for these videos. The mix of intelligent content with a little bit of sass on the side..A+ amigo
8:50 how did you say that so professionally?
I lol'd so hard, absolute legend
All games and applications internally render in full range RGB. The conversion to limited range Standard on the Xbox would be an additional degrading step at the end. The C9 / CX with PC icon supports end-to-end full range RGB / Black Level High without internal YUV conversion. When the Xbox is capable of perpetually running in 10-bit full range RGB mode for both HDR and SDR, I don't understand why you recommend limited range Standard over full-range RGB in the C9 / CX video. If that video was not targeted towards C9 / CX owners, I'd agree.
HDR on Xbox is always limited
I was wondering about this too.
I think it's obvious. Limited works with all video content like bluray, so you don't need to switch the settings on console when you want to watch a movie. For games it doesn't really matter, they will look the same.
@@rafamuniak You don't need to switch. The player expands limited range videos to full range correctly. If you use limited, the same thing just happens on the TV instead, since virtually all LCD and OLED panels are natively RGB.
@@vadimkrylov On HDMI 2.0.
Your videos are so informative and educational. By far, best channel for HDTV information! Really hope you make similar videos for the PS5 🤞🏻🤞🏻
👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼🤞🏽
Thank god your a guy that did his homework like me on cars the world needs professionals keep it up and happy new year and god bless oisin
nice analysis of console options, required bandwidth etc.
Vincent, I would seriously buy this test DVD from you :p
Would love to hear your updated thoughts for the C1 now that it's got major firmware updates. Thanks!
It’s very similar or almost the same as the c9/X
Love your vids, I'm trying these tips on my CX today!
You should do a comparison of the series x with an LG CX vs. a high end gaming monitor!
Dear Sir, i am from Turkey/Istanbul.. and today i have calibrated my new LG CX and X Box Series X according to your advice. It seems perfect when i am playing COD WARZONE. You are very knowledgeable person but as a random user, we don't need to know too many details. Please produce videos for random people who have not got enough knowledge about calibrations of TVs.. because I don't really understand... still don't know the basic settings about brightness, OLED light, or contrasts...You are producing amazing content but make it basic....please.
Thanks so much i keep playing with settings now i have a series X now I see you adjusting settings Thanks for letting me know about the range im going to full I love the deep blacks. Cheers
Thank for for this informative video.
I would highly recommend you to switch on auto HDR to be honest. I've tried it with several games and it looks great. Some games with white text make the text really bright, but the image itself looks stunning. Halo 5 and SoulCalibur VI are great examples of Xbox One games, Lego Star Wars TCS and Sonic Generations are great examples of 360 games, and Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Fuzion Frenzy are great original Xbox examples. These are the ones I've tested to be great. Some have only looked better but not fantastic, but none of them looked worse in my opinion.
Looks like people are trippin about “12 bit gaming” for no real reason
Especially Quantum TV 🤣🤣🤣
@@ChanTheMan1996 that guy is a baffoon. The way he acts you'd think the CEO of LG slept with his wife or something...
@@ChanTheMan1996 what a joke that guy
12 is better than 10 is better than 8! Duh!
People who don’t know what they’re doing will always want to turn everything to 11.
I wonder when Microsoft and Sony will admit max 40GBPS output from their consoles
Vincent, please make a video with XSX settings on XH90
I second that 👍
This guy may help. He seems to respond to a lot of people. ua-cam.com/video/Fy7q14gK_0k/v-deo.html
Thank you sir! I just got my Series X and set it up this way but I bought a C1 which I'm happy very happy with it just need to find the settings for that TV.
Both the CX and the XBOX Series X had software updates in November and these issues were fixed. I have been running my CX65 at 4K, 120Hz, VRR, HDR, 12-bit, PC RGB with no issues whatsoever. The only broken feature is the AMD FreeSync Premium function on the TV. When enabled, the TV display is darker and Dolby Vision is disabled per the info in your video. Disable this feature and all is good 👍🏻 Having to switch modes when gaming with VRR vs. watching a movie that has Dolby Vision is a pain.
Does that mean I can do the same on my c1 48"
Fake, 12 bits, 120, 4k and Full rgb needs 48gb, over 40gb/s from Xbox and LG cx HDMI Port. By bandwich screen calculator.
fully laughed out loud over the coronavirus joke, thanks again vincent for these informative videos regarding next gen consoles and TV settings!
I would really love this on the Sony X900H new firmware
Yes. Please!
Can’t there just be “Best Possible Options for Your TV/Sound System” button? It would scan what you are using, and the environment lighting and acoustics around it.
That would require all t.v remote codes from all around the world. 1 terabyte wouldnt be enough for that info storage.
PS5 PRO vs PS5. Do the same video but for this! It’s about TIME
I'm so excited I got an series x today good luck to everyone
The settings won't go negative to fix the sound timing, but I'm sure that would mess with controller to video timings.