We've Got a FULL STACK! (And A Lot More!) | SpaceX Starbase Update
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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Let's have a fun question. How many Starship launches in 2024? Lots of caveats, I know. But providing nothing seriously bad happens...
hmm, realistically lets say 2 - 4. Hopefully 9999999999999999999999
im going big i think 12 minimum
If things go well, maybe 10. If not, maybe 5ish
3 in first half, upto 6 in 2nd half.. 1 extra for luck. 10 total
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The operators of the SPMT's sure do get their 10.000 steps a day.
more than 2000 ? Oh no ...
I really like your English reporter style!!!! Great updates thanks NSF Team
Thanks Ryan and NSF team.
I could listen to Ryan talk about rockets all day long.
Solid representation, good job moderating and narrating - calming consistency - thanks for sharing!
Really do like (prefer) your presenting style.
Thanks NSF team. Special thanks to Adrian and Ryan.
Thank you NSF team for sharing the updates
These full stack videos in the morning make me crave pancakes.
6:00 What i think is, they want to avoid stress in the pins holding the liftingarms in place. But at one point, you have to aviod the gridfin of the booster, thats where the sideswing comes into play.
Concur. It's likely the more offset the ship is during a lift, the more stress it puts on the carriage system, so they only lift as far "off center" as absolutely necessary.
Or avoid the gridfins of the booster?
@@PsyHeart no, only 1 gridfin :)
great job as always, thank you
I always thought the jog the chopsticks do during lift was to keep the arms as close to center as possible during the lift. When it gets close to the grid fins, the arms need to swing out a little bit to get good clearance and then swing back in once above the grid fins.
I think this is it, and I have a theory about why it is necessary...
When the arms are lifting, there is a rotational moment between the top and bottom hinges of the chopsticks. If the chopsticks are right in the centre, the plane of this moment falls orthoganally through the cars on the main rail on the ship side of the tower - the force vector on the car behind the top hinge is directed orthogonally outward relative to the rail and on the bottom hinge the force vector is orthogonal towards the rail. As soon as the arms move away from the centre, the plane of rotational moment changes and the force vectors move more to the side - I assume the carriage mechanism is not as resistant to these force vectors, so they are minimising the time spent in these positions.
Hopefully this is just an abundance of care until they understand how the forces are resisted by the carriage mechanism when the arms are off-centre...
The lift "jog" allows the lifting arms to miss the grid-fins
Great updates thanks NSF Team❤️
Any time!
The side movements were to give a little buffer room for the grid fins on the booster.
Thanks Ryan, enjoyed the update.
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I was thinking about the WDR, and i realised it doesnt make much sense at all. The point of a WDR is to test everything as if it were a launch day, but stop at engine ignition. If the WDR goes well, why not just light it right then and there? Why not make every WDR a launch attempt, but if something goes wrong, transition to a WDR. After all, WDR's are expensive and require an evacuation. Why go to all the trouble of that if you dont even get to launch?
The chopstick shuffle during lifting appears to be related to it getting past the ship QD arm.
...the chop sticks, avoid crushing the gridfins of the booster during lifting, thats the side move they do, I think
They need to install an arm on the tower just for the FTS access.
Or perhaps add a structure to the chopsticks so someone can use them to access the area for installation/arming of the FTS.
I've been thinking the same thing for a while now. Didn't they lift some stairs up there recently? Wonder if that's a start of an extension platform?
Agreed. It’s a waste of time and creates more room for errors/damage to any part of the equipment when you have to destack and restack for arming the FTS. One of the emphasis points for SpaceX has been “minimize opportunities for problems” and the current system certainly doesn’t meet that criteria.
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G’night!
A full WDR is likely now.
They started updating the chillers and the deluge I don’t think anything‘s gonna happen until that’s finished
“Moving” at night when there is not much light allows the subsequent work to occur during the light of day. Move at night (Brute force work). Assembly and inspection (detail work requiring better light)! Makes it more efficient and precise!!
The odd movements of the chopsticks appear to be them adding some clearance for the grid fins as the widest part of the chopsticks are passing
i hope they do the tests at the same time as a launch....
@nasaspaceflight at what point in the 3 a week starship production do we see a new road or rail system installed next to the highway and SPMTs?
I'm curious how a 3/wk production schedule would fit with their permitting as an R&D site, only. I was under the impression that they would transfer the larger scale production and launch schedules to Florida once they've got a usable rocket.
Regarding rail, the SPMTs have adequate capacity for Starship and much greater maneuverability. If they were going to build a special transportation system between the two sites, it seems like they would just build a dedicated roadway alongside the existing one. But given the wetlands on either side of the existing road, I wouldn't really expect to see either. What they have works adequately for an R&D facility.
Replace accessible Valves. This was part of the mishap investigation! I'm guessing that is why the ring was removed and was rolled back. 😊
I'm surprised that they used the crane to remove/reinstall the hot staging ring instead of just chaining the lifting rig to the chopstick arms.
Using the crane is faster and safer.
Maybe because the hot staging ring is a late addition to the whole process…. I betcha that’s on their List, tho..
@@dphuntsman Or, maybe they will just have the 'fixed design' Hotstaging ring (later in production), lifted on at the new 'High Bay' and then transported as is, on the Booster, to the Launch Site? Then it's only 1 lift.
Either way, if it works, it's going to be 'crowned' on the BFR Booster.
It's pretty obvious the upper stage QD arm needs an upgrade. Elon said they may increase the height of the boosters even more. The upper QD arm may need to adjust vertically.
The chopsticks are pretty much at the top of the tower during stacking with the current booster size. SX will probably need to put another section on if the booster gets any bigger 🤔
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guys I really love your content but can you make the popup text at the beginning less tacky
Just made me wonder when the didn't just build a mega star factory. Metal goes in one end and starships and boosters come out the other.
I guess it was quicker to get operational with the tents. Also, it may have allowed them to figure out exactly what they needed from a Star factory. Honestly, it does seem like they are very wasteful when it comes to ships/boosters, and structures. There will come a point when the design must be frozen. Mass production can not occur without a frozen design. Of course, they are a long way away from that.
They'll do that when the Hyperultramegagigapress is ready....
@@kokomo9764 Spacex is still applying incremental upgrades to Falcon 9 ... no two boosters are identical
@@BALANCEDPORTFOLIO Hmmmmm 🤔 That is true. However, if the Booster for the Crew Dragon Capsule, is Human Rated, then perhaps the incremental changes are only on the Starlink flights. And once they have done a certain number, to meet NASA's tests and approval, are then transferred to the crewed launch's?
I know they have got a bit more thrust out of the Merlin Engines and have altered some of the re-entry burn times, possibly as a result. In thrust we trust 👍🏼🚀
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Seems to me that at some point in time spacex must add something to the tower to allow access to the ship FTS. Seems highly inefficient not to do that eventually.
Not only inefficient but hazardous to all equipment involved. The chopsticks perform well, but sh** happens and equipment has a lifespan, and the extra up and downs just wear out the equipment faster
Thanks for the Update, great as allways! About FTS destack... i fully expect SpaceX at some point to introduce either a robotic arm on the tower or a dedicated drone for that.
Definitely not gonna have a drone carry explosives. FAA doesn't like that sort of thing in civilian airspace. So another arm, maybe.
@@dudermcdudeface3674 true. Did not mean for installing, just for arming FTS.
Would love a deep dive sometime on exactly How FTS is ‘mechanized’ for the two stages; I.e., exactly what type of charges, where they are laid… and how the implementation of the ‘arming’ process actually works.
Once the explosives are installed “things get real” and I suspect by their safety plan access to anywhere near the pad is strictly limited, which would inhibit other operations and maintenance. You wouldn’t want any more people than necessary To get the thing actually launched around the explosives. So installing explosives is the last thing before actual flight prep. By terms of their license “pre-flight ground operations” begin when the explosives are installed.
But you’re right, they should have a more elegant way of installing the explosives and arming them.
@@ericbainter826 Except that every stack is MORE DATA and while SpaceX is in the prototyping stage, everything at Starbase is good practice for future operations, and the best part, is no part. Re-stacking makes every one after that, more efficient and NOT trying to re-invent new protocols and work methods for the handling of explosives, around fueled rockets, will probably save SpaceX huge amounts of time and headache if they just use the established protocols for FTS handling until it might be advantageous to look at alternatives.
NOT YEET!
I wonder if they will do a spin prime test of S25 in it's full stack configuration?
I bet that would look cool.
WDR
Ich habe das Gefühl er bemüht sich mit seiner Aussprache. Danke dafür!
I am surprised that SpaceX has not done any hot testing on the hot staging ring.
Not possible to properly test unless in a vacuum
@@EMichaelBall Yes, it is not perfect but if it going to also function as a upper stage escape system, it needs to be able to operate in atmospheric conditions. Also, the vacuum raptors operate in atmospheric conditions, they are just not as efficient.
On a 'one off' test ring they could. But once it has been exposed to heat, all it's strength properties are compromised. This is rolled steel, which gives it it's tensile strength.
So they can't re-use it, in my opinion.
They must be very confident that it will up to the job, or they would have done so. Unless, they did a test at MacGregors test site and it was 'hidden' from NSF's observations?
@@David-yo5ws I think they would be wise investigating how the ring would affect the engines, it there is sufficient shielding to protect the engines from the reflected energy and are the any items the might get kicked loose by the blast and turn the engine bay into a parts tornado.
@@connecticutaggie Yes, very wise. They have got some spare time, so why not?
My pet got flushed down the toilet. it was not how i imagined her to go.
Let's make a big traffic queue of maga rocket 🚀 waiting there turn to fly, and when someone asks why haven't those rocket 🚀 launch already, they can point 👉 at the culprits ♻️⚖️♻️
Unexpected movements during lifting could be due to limiting wear patterns in the slides. Constant repetitive movements of sliding devices can wear grooves that jam any other movements. Could be testing all positions of arms, too. Guessing but no idea actually :)
we need news... new NEWS if you will....
This stack is bound for the rocket garden.
yer, comment, is uh, BOUND for the rocket garden! ☝🥸
I'm team WDR - because they are going to get bored waiting for approval to launch and WDR is better than doing nothing
Static fire next-then Next year for launch -if not then move to Florida :)
Unless the SLC-40 upgrades also include the ability to launch Falcon Heavy, Starship will likely only launch from Boca Chica until they are more confident it won't RUD on LC-39A.
yes more confidence---in the future-it will be done :) @@steveaustin2686
@NASAspaceflight where is my hot-staged joke?
In other words you really don't know when you're self.
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Omg am I first?!?
I've seen hundreds of these videos. Too bad Elon has become a Kremlin mouthpiece. Goodbye SpaceX and Tesla. I'll settle for an Ioniq 5.
Was this script written by AI? The text is so bland. Ryan seemed semi-bored reading it
just a rehash of previous videos.... nothing really new... seen it all already
So dissapointed with Elon involvement in politics, choosing the dark side.
Shame Elon is Russian lover and aggressor supporter. I was fan of him but lately he disappoint me and I start to don't like him. Idea of concerning space is gorgeous but bending in front of government is rubbish. Be rebellion and change destiny be a hero.