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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Today I'm discussing new info from Plarium about the datamined ShieldCapMultiplier that has shown up in the game, plus some new features coming this week to Raid: Shadow Legends!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 342

  • @georgemccray2730
    @georgemccray2730 9 годин тому +33

    I personally don’t care about badges. Give me chaos dust, books, and shards.

  • @GamePandaXXL
    @GamePandaXXL 10 годин тому +27

    Add more possible chests to each Hydra, up to like 8 different based on damage.
    Give Clash points based on chest achieved.
    Everyone happy. Cant be that hard, Plarium.

    • @jtlewis81
      @jtlewis81 9 годин тому

      that's a really good start. take the clash points away from the ridiculous damage so it doesn't matter, other than bragging rights i guess. the only downside to this is that, like siege, it creates a possible tie condition, if multiple clans get the same number/level of chests. i like the direction though!

  • @michelcavens4319
    @michelcavens4319 10 годин тому +42

    If they were more transparent we wouldn't have to rely on datamined information. Be shady, and this is what you get Plarium

  • @aelinstue9431
    @aelinstue9431 10 годин тому +84

    Without defining what is broken vs. what is smart, team building is the problem. When a mechanic is doing something, it's not supposed to like that void ogre that was broken for a minute, but if you just punish people for finding good combos then what's the point of building teams?

    • @aaronwalcott513
      @aaronwalcott513 9 годин тому +5

      This is what I've been saying since the week before they nerfed Cadaver. And then, this gave rise to people realizing how busted Trunda is.

    • @loop22-g5s
      @loop22-g5s 7 годин тому +6

      From what I hear, Trunda is broken. Her skill doesn't do what it's supposed to.
      On the other hand, the Wixwell team is not broken. Everyone on that team acts within the normal boundaries of the text of their skills.
      If this is true, Trunda should be fixed and Wixwell left alone. So why would a company do otherwise? The first thing that comes to mind is money. Trunda makes money; Wixwell was free. Allowing Wixwell to do such numbers is financially outrageous.
      That's my guess as to how Plarium sees it.

    • @krissam7791
      @krissam7791 6 годин тому

      Wouldn't it be more fun to build solid teams rather than cheesy teams?

    • @robertirwin8533
      @robertirwin8533 6 годин тому

      The cadavar teams aren't doing billions of damage anymore but can still do a decent job. It the do nerf wixeell I am sure the teams will do well enough

    • @jankostrhun8725
      @jankostrhun8725 6 годин тому +2

      @@krissam7791 Cheese and combo is often more fun because it's inventive not not just a "big stick does big bonk" approach. So probably no.

  • @KeithDCanada
    @KeithDCanada 8 годин тому +17

    Plarium's #1 problem.....
    They do not fix an issue immediately. They let the community of players get used to taking advantage of the issue, and then when they address it months, or years later, they are met with massive outrage..... where as if they would have just stopped the shield infinity crap the same week the offending champ gets released, no one would be crying now.
    I agree. Complex solutions only cause more problems. The game revolves around a massive selection of champs. You want to add variety and not just have the champs all doing roughly the same thing, so logic would seem to indicate that the larger your selection of champs becomes, with unique skill sets... the harder it's going to be to design 'complex solutions that balance them all in areas of the game. There have been people in the community that have come up with very common sense, and seemingly simple, solutions that would be easily integrated.... but Plarium just has a history of proving that they don't give a fuck what feedback their players are giving unless they can make a buck off the change.
    For the record - I 100% support nerfs..... it's just that a nerf should happen immediately once a problem has been identified. Waiting 6 months to do the nerf is just horrible community interaction. That's why a Trunda nerf now would be like dropping a nuke... so many people have now spent so much money building those broken 120Billion teams, that it now threatens to impact Plarium's bottom line if they change her.

    • @relvid1
      @relvid1 8 годин тому +1

      Totally agree! Nerfs are fine, and they should be a logic part of the game, but they should come right away, or Plarium should communicate that they are thinking about a nerf to a given champion, when they see a problem. Not wait months (and put the champion in question as a progressiv chance champ!!!). That is what makes people pissed off. If you know, that some exploit shown by a cc's will be fixed, only a handful of people will make those teams, and people will not get mad, when the fix comes, because it is expected.

  • @iSoulless
    @iSoulless 9 годин тому +15

    I think your stance on nerfing champs comes from a "normal" game perspective, which I agree with. In Gacha games though nerfing champs can be far more damaging because people have spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to get certain champs. This doesn't matter to players like you or me, but put yourself in the shoes of someone who spent $1k to get a champ, make a great team, then the devs go and nerf the champ you spent all that money on. Would probably feel pretty shitty.
    Again, I do agree nerfs are important for game balance but in Gacha's it's a very tight rope to walk.

    • @NubRaids
      @NubRaids  9 годин тому +15

      If they can afford to spend that much they can afford a pack of tissues to dry their tears :P ... But yeah it's a massive problem for sure with the genre.

    • @jayharvey8201
      @jayharvey8201 8 годин тому

      @@NubRaids Hahahaha that a great answer sir :)

    • @BambusFourleaf
      @BambusFourleaf 7 годин тому

      @@NubRaidslmao

  • @vinceszurko8651
    @vinceszurko8651 10 годин тому +12

    “Secret Wixwell nerf” not accurate.
    What plarium means is it’s a nerf to wixwell and brogni

    • @awilliams765
      @awilliams765 5 годин тому

      What they really mean is:
      "Oh, no, no. We're not nerfing him. We are only scaling down his abilities in a certain area of the game."
      "You see? That's not a nerf! He works the same as always except in that one area."

  • @hasancakir19961996
    @hasancakir19961996 10 годин тому +9

    we are not secretly nerfing wixwell its only datamine we were gonna announce it !!! xD i laugh now but i wont be suprised if they actually said that themself tbh

  • @Dread_Freak
    @Dread_Freak 8 годин тому +16

    i smell BS from Plarium, trying to screw over the community as always.

  • @jcor-laura5450
    @jcor-laura5450 10 годин тому +17

    Hydra as designed is a terrible game mode for mobile game. Plarium has this bizarre mindset that more time in game increases revenue which is based on the concept of sunken cost where cost is both time and money. It is toxic way to treat your player base and they deserve all the headaches they get for designing it the way they did.

    • @nugsnothugs
      @nugsnothugs 9 годин тому +1

      If time in game is a metric that the parent Co and investors have called out as important to keep the game funded then it's smart of them. Things are usually more complicated than they seem

  • @TheMrBugio
    @TheMrBugio 9 годин тому +8

    +1 on the turn limit decrease. This is just too much atm, manual hydra should not take more than 20/30min

    • @justinneedham1791
      @justinneedham1791 5 годин тому

      ? Every chest is very easy to obtain. Now placing 4 or 5 nothing that's shit

  • @jtlewis81
    @jtlewis81 9 годин тому +7

    my initial response to yesterday's video was premature. i later remembered that, as a programmer, the news of a single line of inactive code with no real context really means absolutely nothing. any program/game that is under constant development can have entire scripts left in a build that don't do anything. it could have been in there for a test and just didn't get taken out before a patch release. I never heard if it was part of a script attached to a specific champion or what. so, i'm gonna relax till they make an actual change, and continue working on my game project for a raid-like game that will have much less complexity.

  • @vorvardii
    @vorvardii 9 годин тому +6

    Maybe we are looking at a cap on the boss's having shields that are massive. So when the hydra steals your shield it can only be like 4x it's health not uncapped like it is now. So it's not a nerf to wixwell but to yannica

    • @Beefsaucer
      @Beefsaucer 8 годин тому

      Wouldn't that just mean you run the same team but use her every now and then instead of after 20min?

    • @stanleyclark923
      @stanleyclark923 7 годин тому +2

      @@Beefsaucer You would think so but it doesn't work out the same. Getting the perfect storm set up before pulling the trigger on the current Yannica team takes a bit of effort and no one is going to do that x8 per run with weaker results.

  • @shnato
    @shnato 8 годин тому +29

    Your takes are usually alright but this one is just bad. You can't put x10 events to get people to spend money on a champion and then nerf them. That's basically fraud

    • @claudep.255
      @claudep.255 6 годин тому +2

      they do what they want and you are free to leave

    • @Blevblunt
      @Blevblunt 6 годин тому

      I do agree with you but like the guy above said, they can do literally whatever they want. Anything. They could literally delete Wixwell or any champs from the game tomorrow if they wanted

    • @shnato
      @shnato 6 годин тому +3

      @@claudep.255 thanks mate, next you'll be telling me the grass is green and water is wet

    • @trueamerican2716
      @trueamerican2716 6 годин тому +2

      It's not fraud if it's legal. They are a private company that can do what they want.

    • @justinneedham1791
      @justinneedham1791 5 годин тому

      Go back to school mate. 😅

  • @Lordebok
    @Lordebok 10 годин тому +14

    Putting any cap on a shield affects the team and is therefore a nerf. Until they specify the solution and don’t nerf teams I have money into building, my money won’t be going into this game anymore.

    • @Yobinski4900
      @Yobinski4900 10 годин тому +4

      I am with you! Constructed my Wixwell cash and time. If Nerfd NO MORE 🎉

  • @lfc-1892
    @lfc-1892 10 годин тому +3

    Balance is important if they treat trunda yumiko the Same as f2p friendly teams I have no problem. Also instead of adding things 2025 should be rebalancing and improving dungeons and doom tower with new difficulty levels.

  • @renescherer631
    @renescherer631 10 годин тому +3

    HAHA! "Secret Wixwell nerv" is not accurate just means the statement isn't wrong. All they need to do is announce the nerv and then it's not a "secret nerv"... TBC.

  • @hammerhiem75
    @hammerhiem75 9 годин тому +3

    A single hit damage cap for ALL champions is the simple obvious solution.
    say 3m for live heads 6m for dead heads

  • @M1Y4MUS4SH1
    @M1Y4MUS4SH1 9 годин тому +8

    community boiling ... if they touch wixwel the quiting will be massive

    • @harryhoudini714
      @harryhoudini714 7 годин тому +2

      I dont know about that! I have seen a lot "crisises" in this game where players said the same thing...did they quit? some did most didnt! and some even returned after a while!
      and Paylarium knows this!

    • @seanathan888
      @seanathan888 7 годин тому +3

      @@harryhoudini714agreed. The people “revolted” over blessings, mythicals, and and primal shards. I’d bet 95% of those just said they’d leave but actually stayed

    • @M1Y4MUS4SH1
      @M1Y4MUS4SH1 7 годин тому

      @@harryhoudini714 we started 12 friends same time...guess after almost 2 years how many quit and how many are left so far...of bad rng..of unfairs competitions..of nerfing...of tirdness..and nobody returned so far.

    • @DBZeni
      @DBZeni 6 годин тому +3

      Heard this when they nerfed the rare dwarf doing insane damage, also heard it when they nerfed corpulent cadaver.

    • @M1Y4MUS4SH1
      @M1Y4MUS4SH1 6 годин тому

      @@DBZeni come what worthed those 2 both were rares and alrdy builded of the mosts..wixwel help many to get chests from clan boss and hydra..dont compare them...if they nerf wixwel they must nerf trunda too..end...at least to be fair to all.

  • @djimson8929
    @djimson8929 10 годин тому +5

    Why try to balance a unbalance game, just leave it alone

    • @DBZeni
      @DBZeni 6 годин тому

      Because it affects future content when you have anything that relates to infinite scaling.

    • @theworldaccordingto8665
      @theworldaccordingto8665 3 години тому

      I agree...let there be kaos, it's allready fucked in so many places 😅

  • @ragingmoonkin9039
    @ragingmoonkin9039 9 годин тому +2

    They just need to add Saf to a CC program and forbid him to check the code :) I think you are right about nerfs (and bug fixes if we speak about Trunda).
    And man, are you OK? You sound like you had a realy tough dialogue with plarium. I hope you'll be alright

  • @josephmitolo507
    @josephmitolo507 10 годин тому +2

    So for me, i am using wixwell as a hydra solution for myself and I am FINALLY able to get my nukers into stoneskin from the accessories and that’s huge, so for me, i am able to at least compete a little bit in arena, wixwell without the crazy shield growth is an awesome champ and i love him, it just makes him so much better with yanica, i just like that i can compete in LA and push higher in CA and TTTA

  • @martinprovo2389
    @martinprovo2389 10 годин тому +2

    Easiest fix to HC CvC until they completely balance it in the long run and to add the most QoL in the interim is to add a Team wide multiplier that starts at a certain point, and gets reduced the more duplicate champions used.
    This increases team communication, coordination, and maximizing what each account's strengths are.
    It's not a perfect solution, but multiple kraken teams running Trunda will nerf their output greatly compared to the current system, same for shield comps.
    This way the lower the gap between teams, greatly increase versatility and rewards ingenuity, and also leave CB alone.

  • @KresnikOSRS
    @KresnikOSRS 9 годин тому +2

    Personally I feel like Plarium just needs to enact nerfs & buffs faster and on a more consistent basis. When those errors are found out, they just need to do a hot fix. If they actively fixed champs that are clearly not functioning as intended, players wouldn't get as upset as they are currently over these rumors as well as the previous Trunda situation. It's all about setting expectations & standards for your game design. The outrage is expected and understandable when they take 6+ months to potentially correct a mistake that was figured out by the player base within a week of the champ being added to the game.

  • @dadbod12
    @dadbod12 9 годин тому +2

    If their "complex solution" makes a negative impact on teams like Wixwell comp, but don't address the elephant in the room (trunda, double yumeko teams) then I'll probably just be done with the game and move on to something else. Fateless may be the new game for me if that is the case.

  • @meaninglessbanter
    @meaninglessbanter 9 годин тому +2

    I think it’s not unreasonable to suppose that they were going to nerf Wixwell before you and Boozer and other CCs started expressing dissatisfaction, skepticism, and warning.

  • @corinabasurte1406
    @corinabasurte1406 9 годин тому +2

    They only herf things when an easy combo that can be achieved by a majority shows up, and plarium only like to make changes that favour the whales, hence thelatest content added.
    Can't wait to see the Godforge game release and go play that instead.

  • @Xenosonmatt
    @Xenosonmatt 10 годин тому +8

    My wishlist hydra:
    -Nerf trunda.
    -Nerf teox.
    -Nerf shields.
    -Make changes that benefit all players, not just p2w players.
    -Shorten turn count.
    (They will never do these because they only listen to whale feedback)

    • @latala43
      @latala43 9 годин тому

      No. Counter solutions is better than nerfing. Nerfing will be the end of this company as other games that already died because of nerfing and.

    • @KIngaiune
      @KIngaiune 9 годин тому

      None of these would be a problem if not for clash. No one cares if some ones UNM DL team does 71M or 1B Damage cause overachieving there doesnt mess with any gains for your clan or win over others. Pre clash Trunda and brogni teams were a look at how silly I can make the numbers thing. Now those big numbers are clan requirements for some. Compitition should have never been abded to a battle that takes that long.

    • @TheCrusher112
      @TheCrusher112 3 години тому

      @@latala43how do you counter trunda? All she does is raw damage. If you counter that then every other dps is in effectively nerfed.

  • @pglanville
    @pglanville 9 годин тому +2

    These teams are complex and 😂hard to build. I'm Not sure any nerfing is warranted. I need the high Hydra turn limit to get my 450M damage!

  • @JohnGangi
    @JohnGangi 8 годин тому +2

    I hope the hydra change makes the fight take significantly less time for everyone. Even on auto its approx. 1 hr per run, and most players are still manualing.

  • @tristanm8838
    @tristanm8838 9 годин тому +2

    The difference between competitive games and this one is the amount of money and resources to build teams. In competitive shooter you dont spend real currency to buy guns that get nerfed or characters, the whole roster and guns are free to use, if everyone could get all champs for free noone would complain about nerfs

  • @Salvamad
    @Salvamad 9 годин тому +5

    Community voted for Wixwell. Then they used their rare resources to a make teams. Raid needs to respect their whole community.
    Nerf the Yumekos, Teoxes, Trundas, all the mythicals too. Nerf everything and everyone. Not the ones that give normal players some glimpses of satisfaction.
    Respecting the community's vote is a pretty decent wish.

  • @paulfarrington1605
    @paulfarrington1605 9 годин тому +6

    You keep going back to the fact they don't like infinity comps... Then why on earth would they offer us the choice of a free infinity comp as a "players choice" fusion? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And here's the elegant solution to wix in hydra, make shields not stealable by mischief. it doesn't really change anything except the yannica team. If you aren't growing shields for yannica then the cost in champions for survivability isn't worth the loss in DMG. And if you just have some random shields in your team ie. Mithrala then mischief stealing a shield isn't really changing anything. Mischief is so squishy that any DMG dealer will blast thru a normal shield without any real problems. Also stop calling the stupid profile stuff cool. Call it dumb like it is and point out the fact they claim they are a small dev team so they can't solve all the problems but they waste time on crap no one cares about 😅 If they don't want datamined info out make more of the game run server side rather than device side so we could get stuff like running dt the background while we do daily quests. They have power crept their game to the point where they can't even build content without doing stuff like limiting champs or capping DMG outputs of mx HP champs but they "don't like nerfs". I'm a long time player who's reaching the point where most of my in game friends have left or cut way back and I'm very close myself.

    • @NubRaids
      @NubRaids  9 годин тому +2

      Doesn't make sense to nerf the Yannica variant but not the Acelin variant imo!

  • @darrellrichards7221
    @darrellrichards7221 9 годин тому +4

    Don’t do individual nerfs. Just put a damage cap on the heads. All existing problems are fixed and any future champs won’t cause a problem.

    • @dranzmaxwell3090
      @dranzmaxwell3090 9 годин тому +1

      Exactly, because all that is gonna happen is that Raid is gonna introduce some new champions down the road that surprisingly pairs well with an already existing champion and a new meta is born. The cycle is just gonna repeat itself over and over again.

    • @blxckleppxrd
      @blxckleppxrd 9 годин тому

      that would break trunda which they wont do, trunda is inherently broken because her a3 ignores that mechanic of a damage cap because of terrible coding so they wont do anything that alters how trunda works, either her coding or the boss's

    • @Reajjy
      @Reajjy 9 годин тому

      @@blxckleppxrd That is a champion not working as written so that is a bug and should be fixed, exactly the same reason Madman was nerfed/fixed.

    • @blxckleppxrd
      @blxckleppxrd 7 годин тому

      @@Reajjy and been left alone since released 3/4 years ago, they only want to nerf ftp/low spender comps that are meta, they'll never touch a difficult to acquire champ, no myth, no faction unity, no void champ, and no trunda will ever get a nerf... but wix, ironclad, corpulent, they have no issue and will do immediately

  • @robertdoss6129
    @robertdoss6129 9 годин тому +5

    With all due respect, because I really love your channel, this is all easy for you to say. For us low spenders without a seemingly limitless champion selection, this really sucks. Thanks to the Wixwell team, I am finally able to do every other fusion or so with the clan boss rewards. I really hope they leave shield growth alone, selfishly of course.

  • @lazztheman
    @lazztheman 9 годин тому +2

    So nothing is different from your video yesterday, so why bother?

  • @nevyns9285
    @nevyns9285 9 годин тому +2

    Their "fix" for Hydra Clash was the was to add personal rewards, that the majority of players need a year or more to collect all the rewards for.

    • @KapperTube
      @KapperTube 7 годин тому +1

      "We fixed it, just like we promised!" ~Plarium

  • @PandaPoe1
    @PandaPoe1 6 годин тому +1

    Maybe the shield cap is for the hydra itself? Limiting how much shield the hydra can have. That would leave wixwell and acelyn alone directly keeping them working in clan boss but blocking them specifically in hydra. Maybe that's a good compromise. As for Trunda who knows lol

  • @jongaskell3438
    @jongaskell3438 9 годин тому +1

    Clear stage 7 of Kaerok castle! RED DOT!
    trust is the issue. Plarium have lost so much trust from players in the past. the majority of times they fixed things with "complex solutions" it was just a pay gate solution.
    sorry to plarium but... it feels like they have 2 poor Devs frantically putting out fires with the balance of the game,, while another 50 more senior Dev's look for solutions to make more money!

  • @animejay70
    @animejay70 5 годин тому +1

    my NM hydra went 90 minutes today. wat to f*n long.
    I welcome some balance changes. too much RNG.
    i COMPLETELY agree with you

  • @IntooleranceRieg
    @IntooleranceRieg 9 годин тому +1

    I think they missed out on the fact that we need some buffs on champions every months, but we dont need "nerfs every 8months", and 0 changes or nerf champions 8 months after their release and multiple évents to pull them. I agree with you buff or nerf all but stop making 1 champ broken for months and then break another thing and release new busted champs.. I love hydra personaly but i like it when we can compete honestly it's fun. Not CvC against a clan 2 times our clan power, not live arena against 10 M power player when i have 3M. that kind of logics

  • @garyjager1
    @garyjager1 9 годин тому +1

    One I think would be interesting is a bit of a spin off the Arbiter missions. What if they had "Clear (Dragon / Fire Knight / Ice Golem) Stage 20 using a pure team from each faction" as an achievement. That would incorporate a longer bit of gameplay, Stage 20 makes it more accessible to everyone, and it adds a bit of strategy as you set up each faction's team.

  • @KIngaiune
    @KIngaiune 9 годин тому +1

    They do not have a sufficient enough buff and nerf cycle to really address things in a champ basis. Pre Clash hitting big numbers in hydra was an end game thing for funzies and bragging rights. Now we have a clan based need to be pushing our best numbers. Wix teams actually remove a lot of champs from the vault if it goes away so many champs are back to vault and faction wars champs. I mean I never invested my clan gold into getting yanica and she will go straight to the vault. Same will happen to Loki, most buff extenders will be vaulted too. Nerfing Wix would piss a lot of people off not only due to him but all the resources that go into raising champs you would have never trained up if not for them For me its over 3-4 champions worth of chickens, books and scrolls that would have gone into more game wide usable champions.

  • @TsTakeOnLife
    @TsTakeOnLife 9 годин тому +1

    I would love to see the badges be worth something. Doesn't have to be a lot. Just a permanent stat bonus category like masteries, fg, gear, etc. Ex: earn a badge, get +5 spd or +5 acc, crit rate, whatever that is applied to either all Champs, or even specialized factions, champ type, affinity, area, or whatever else, maybe even related to the badge itself. Something to incentive getting them because for some of us, bragging rights isn't motivating enough to bother.

  • @WedgieFRG
    @WedgieFRG 9 годин тому +1

    I don't think it's as simple as nerfing the OP champs. They've adjusted the game encounters to account for the busted things like the mentioned HP damage and poison cap, ingnore unkillable etc. if they honestly start "nerfing" champions they've also got to adjust the game itself. They've painted themselves into a corner with not fixing these things when they crop up and then slap a band aid on it by changing encounters as an the easier fix. It's not easy to buff or nerf when you start out taking the easy road and also procrastinate. They're in a pickle with a game that people pay to win in, make too many mad it hurts the bottom line...which makes this type of game even harder to balance, there's a natural money making unbalance built in.

  • @mrjamesryan333
    @mrjamesryan333 10 годин тому +2

    as long as they leave DL Clan Boss and Wixwell teams alone.

  • @jamesgish9202
    @jamesgish9202 9 годин тому +1

    If the 'rebalance' changes the wixwell comp i will quit. Period. The champions are working as intended and its bullshit that they would start to make changes to hydra once the regular players get a chance to put up some decent numbers. After they have ignored the trunda teams and the double yumeko teams. Bc the average player will probably never get 2 yumekos. I dont even have one. I have less than a handful of void legendaries. Building the wixwell team took alot of time and resource its just a cheat code. I wouldnt be so upset if this was just an easy cheat code to get high scores in hydra but its not. Its very hard and time consuming and it doesnt always work and you have to restart. Its just as hard and probably harder than the trunda teams which to me seem more like an easy cheat code.

  • @larsmartintangen7072
    @larsmartintangen7072 8 годин тому +1

    I am all for balancing hydra clash... Its stupid unbalanced. But they need to balance ALL the broken champs, Trunda is the worst of all and is not even woring as descibed unlike wixwell

  • @bigu1874
    @bigu1874 9 годин тому +1

    I would like an end to those cheese teams. They make hydra clash completely no fun and there's no incentive at all to improve your 'standard' (no-Wixwell, no-Trunda) team.

  • @daveeck1338
    @daveeck1338 10 годин тому +1

    Not a fan of nerfs. If there is 200 champions in the game and one is op yea nerf the one. But there's like 600 champions in this game, and they are not slowing down in adding more, tomorrow, and the next day and the next day. So, create a champion or two that counter the op champions and keep people happy. I spent time money and resources on the champions I have a d don't think it's proper to take away from me, when in actuality, they could simply give more

  • @shakyabodhi
    @shakyabodhi 10 годин тому +1

    this stuff is especially frustrating for a few reasons - the poor and disorderly communication, the cost of building champions, and the sporadic and drastic changes to game elements. league of legends is buffing and nerfing champions every couple of weeks, reworking and changing art, and while it's a lot to track it at least transparently focuses on maintaining balance and costs players relatively little for these changes. also, i think you're thinking of eternal evolution on the player avatar frames.

  • @afrugal1
    @afrugal1 9 годин тому +1

    Did Plarium poll the community and found an overwhelming majority of folks are demanding a complex solution to Hydra ? Asking for a friend who must have missed all of that.

  • @Andrewcarman-cf9jf
    @Andrewcarman-cf9jf 9 годин тому +1

    how many champs have they nerfed after playtests leaked.. if your not reading and grinding you got bamboozled.. being sneaky is good way to lose more people... bet 100% its a lie

  • @nevyns9285
    @nevyns9285 9 годин тому +1

    They said they aren't planning to "secretly" nerf Infinity champs, they left if open for them to OPENLY nerf them at a later date.
    Edit: autocorrect got me.

  • @Renesh11
    @Renesh11 10 годин тому +1

    Idk where the notion comes from that we hate nerfs. Everyone I have spoken to wants nerfs to happen, maybe you should do another poll on that nub. If the notion comes from the bigger playerbase that isnt on youtube, discords etc then I understand that since most casuals would dislike the nerfs

  • @raoulmensink3893
    @raoulmensink3893 9 годин тому +1

    My gripe with plarium is, they are too scared to put out actual patches to balance the game. Too many champs are just too weak to play them compared to easy to get alternatives.
    Sure nerf the problems. Wixwel really isnt a problem compared to all the other bs champs

  • @Max-ej4oh
    @Max-ej4oh 8 годин тому +1

    "We will rebalance, we can't tell you yet"
    *Translate from Corporate to Non-Corporate language* : You're having way too many advantages, and pretty much expect hydra to delete you, wants advantages? check the shop.
    Thank you random youtuber for pointing out more rares, without you we wouldn't even notice, Ironclad will be having a cap soon.

  • @Sledgehuk
    @Sledgehuk 9 годин тому +1

    So in short they got rumbled, trying to fix a fuck up, going too create another clusterfuck, wont touch the kraken smoe teams ... rinse repeat .... robarium the fuckening

  • @Zireaelist
    @Zireaelist 9 годин тому +1

    It's ridiculous to suggest nerfing infinity comps and Wixwell in anything when Trunda exists "as intended" in Hydra.

  • @witcherg8044
    @witcherg8044 9 годин тому +1

    I think the shield cap could be directed to the hydra heads themselves. Restricting the size that can de stolen. Either way I just built a Wixwell team 😢

  • @khaledomar6019
    @khaledomar6019 10 годин тому +1

    The shield multiplayer can be 4 times of the base value of the shield
    So its going to be a straight up nerf for wixwell and brogni

  • @blxckleppxrd
    @blxckleppxrd 9 годин тому +1

    plariums next fix to hydra is going ti be adding a 150trillion damage chest at the end so its impossible to reset the chests for anyone not using a trunda comp

  • @jaccl4539
    @jaccl4539 9 годин тому +1

    lets not play stupid its business talk for we want to nerf the value of the character but we understand the backlash so the nerf is added to the monster vs the character - so in theory the same nerf but lesser backlash.

  • @beertheatreman7360
    @beertheatreman7360 10 годин тому +8

    Nub being the man and taking the reprimand from the big bad company for the people. On behalf of the people, well one person, it's much appreciated that you're looking out for players and not just towing a company line.

  • @alexdavis-mann8513
    @alexdavis-mann8513 8 годин тому +1

    there should be 6 slots and each slot changes once a month but with a stagger, so 1 changes every month and is there for 6 months total.

  • @scottmeadows7547
    @scottmeadows7547 9 годин тому +1

    I think overall, the turn limit on all of CB would help with the big damaging comps.

  • @kieranklein2527
    @kieranklein2527 10 годин тому +1

    Moral of the story is stay on top of game balance early! The longer you let it go the more people get mad.

  • @chuckmowry5951
    @chuckmowry5951 10 годин тому +1

    Yes, it's not going to be a "Secret" nerf. They are going to announce it when they do it.

  • @logan5018
    @logan5018 10 годин тому +1

    I think the issue I and many other people have with these trunda and wixwell teams is when theyre used on an uneven playing field. If you have a clan of wixwell users versus another clan of wixwell uses, who cares? The problem is when you have one trunda or wixwell user completing out damaging an entire clan who do not have any of the tools to fight back. with that in mind, i think there are a number of simple ways plarium could adjust the clash point calculations or the determination of a winner that would limit these unfun matchups significantly. one idea for example would be diminishing returns scaling. maybe every extra 100M damage on hydra yields half as many points as the previous 100M. alternatively, maybe the winnner is determined by the median point total from a clan. these are just a few ideas, the possibilities are endless
    also a note about people saying raid "ripping off watcher of realms" with avatar frames: yugioh master duel released nearly a year and a half before it did and theyve got avatar frames. not saying raid ripped them off either, just that this is not some unique idea to rip off

    • @davidbaker9479
      @davidbaker9479 9 годин тому

      Avatar frames have been a thing in mobie games for probably a decade or more at this point.

  • @FlamingoSandwich
    @FlamingoSandwich 10 годин тому +4

    How about they put a cap on the shields the hydra can have which will nerf the yanica teams without nerfing the ability to grow the shield for other reasons and CB

  • @viciousman1046
    @viciousman1046 6 годин тому +1

    I think a simpler solution would be remove enemy max hp cap or change it so that champs with max hp attack are more relevant and add a new hydra head that mechanics reflects shield damage or ignore shields buffs I don’t think nerfing champs is the best solution

    • @joaocabrita9404
      @joaocabrita9404 5 годин тому

      If you ignore shields you Kill the other teams, i use shields to not use as much dec attack, that would Kill my team

  • @mrpolskija
    @mrpolskija 9 годин тому +1

    I already panicked and speed tuned my DeaconEater back and test ran it yesterday. It works, but I need to manually set it up on Force Affinity so it's a bummer to go back from Wixwell.

    • @alicelaybourne1620
      @alicelaybourne1620 9 годин тому +1

      Yeah, I have my MythBuster team waiting in the wings. 300+ It was enough without Wixwell, but I did like that 750M damage on the first run without serious speed tuning. It was refreshing.

  • @JGmann
    @JGmann 9 годин тому +1

    27:18 but not Emic, his growth is already been hampered :)

  • @jhony3998
    @jhony3998 10 годин тому +1

    maybe that code is just hydra heads have a cap of x4 their health for shields? seems simple enough to not nuke wixwell but fix yannica if they’re targeting hydra clash

    • @davidbaker9479
      @davidbaker9479 9 годин тому

      And that way they dont need to fix the trundra problem either.

  • @Sticowish
    @Sticowish 10 годин тому +1

    Hydra Clash will die with changes. It was a bad idea to begin with

  • @bloodyirishman9155
    @bloodyirishman9155 9 годин тому +11

    Belittling the player base and viewers probably isn't the wisest decision.

  • @MobyQuail
    @MobyQuail 10 годин тому +1

    The only reason to use Acelin's shield crush A2 is with IronClad. Otherwise I turn it off it's weak sauce

    • @NubRaids
      @NubRaids  9 годин тому

      Yeah I found it pretty underwhelming too when I tested him back in the day

  • @melchisedek-gaming
    @melchisedek-gaming 9 годин тому +1

    It Is not good to Nerf wixwill when Is not even in the top teams

  • @Slugworth88
    @Slugworth88 9 годин тому +1

    Jgigs is gonna eat this one up! I feel a skit coming lol #jgigs

  • @ulxtmx5018
    @ulxtmx5018 10 годин тому +5

    How do they solve for Docmorroe account doing 100 billion damage vs NM Hydra with Trunda/Yumeko team without nerfs?

    • @simeonelliott5534
      @simeonelliott5534 10 годин тому +2

      Spend more compete

    • @WaylanderWOR
      @WaylanderWOR 9 годин тому

      Have you ever competed against him?

    • @georgemccray2730
      @georgemccray2730 9 годин тому

      Leave him alone.

    • @simeonelliott5534
      @simeonelliott5534 9 годин тому

      You play a p2w game that has a 5 year proven track record of doing things in a way where there is overpowered choices that make people spend insane amounts of money. So just use some common sense instead of crying

    • @ulxtmx5018
      @ulxtmx5018 8 годин тому

      @@georgemccray2730 He's amazing, I love watching Docmorroe/Kruysen and have no problem with him. I'm a fan

  • @leeweir1691
    @leeweir1691 9 годин тому +1

    Daddy plarium been on your case nub lol

  • @aleksandarpopadic7760
    @aleksandarpopadic7760 2 години тому

    Books Dungeon that Ash mentioned with "pages" system . Make removing gear on EACH weekend free . Fusions less resource intensive cuz nobody does them except endgame players and yes i know what im talking about cuz even best f2p player boozor said in Ash's colab video "yeah fusions are for endgame" . Make CHANGES of BLESSINGS free ! its insane that u can change it only once - just for that ill say Plarium is scum , not to mention all other bad things that keep getting worse . Oh y also not a single clan i joined plays Siege so y .!. Plarium and their " new content for 0.00001% of players , we love you" , I am proud that i have spent 0$ on this game just cuz Plarium doesnt care about their players just whales . To all the new players -> spend 0 and make Plarium ur b1tch instead of being one :) hope Plarium reads this

  • @calandale
    @calandale 5 годин тому

    The problem is that what makes Trunda worthwhile is that she's broken. They'd have to completely rework her to make her just strong.
    Wix is different, in that he's useful elsewhere, and regardless of the infinite shield, BUT, he made demon lord such a no-fuss answer. We need a decent no-fuss hydra answer as well: taking over an hour to get decent (not high-end godlike) scores is annoying as all hell.

  • @acorn1754
    @acorn1754 20 хвилин тому

    Yeah enemy max HP needs to be unnerfed. Acrizia doesn't make any of my hydra teams anymore, her cap is too limiting of damage to decapitated heads.

  • @randominternetdude2179
    @randominternetdude2179 5 годин тому

    I remember back in my day when they nerfed unkillable teams by making Clan Boss ignore unkillable at turn 50. Were people mad? Probably. Was it good for the overall balancing of the game? Yes. And people learnt how to still use their unkillable champs (yo maneater) and still create viable teams. These young whippersnappers want a fusion champ to continuosly break clan boss and be an easy ticket to their UNM keys, when now they have 3x the resources we had back then. Git gud

  • @ObitusJoe
    @ObitusJoe 7 годин тому

    "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!"
    This video nails it. A lot of sentiments I have been conveying for a long time. I am perfectly fine with nerfs that encourage fun gameplay. But they need to FIX Trunda before they go nerfing. They also need to adjust Hydra so it is 5 minutes not 30+ minutes on auto.
    As a coder, you are 100% on simple vs complex. I know I am going down the wrong path on a solution when my code feels overly complex. KISS rule should apply in coding, design, and development.
    Definitely a good video for people to watch.

  • @jamiemac12580
    @jamiemac12580 9 годин тому +1

    An easy change would be "after 50 turns, X% of clan boss damage ignores shields".
    Would be in line with the ignore unkillable.
    Hope they don't do this 😅

    • @sergeypetrov8221
      @sergeypetrov8221 9 годин тому +1

      Why would the CB ignore unkillable and block damage completely, but ignore shields only partially?

    • @jamiemac12580
      @jamiemac12580 5 годин тому

      @@sergeypetrov8221 So people don't go crying that they nerfed vixwell too much. Gives u a more turns before u get killed.

    • @sergeypetrov8221
      @sergeypetrov8221 5 годин тому

      @@jamiemac12580 i do not think the ingame balance should ever be based on the loudness of people crying, honestly.

    • @jamiemac12580
      @jamiemac12580 4 години тому

      @@sergeypetrov8221 If they nerf anything, or even consider nerfing something then people will moan and complain, I've seen a few UA-cam videos and comments saying people will quit Raid if Vixwell is nerfed.

  • @black_fox85
    @black_fox85 56 хвилин тому

    The problem is hydra.i really don't care but leave is wixwell like that I have to buy some shards too get this camp, it's money some people put to get him it's not fair

  • @CrouchingGrandpa
    @CrouchingGrandpa 5 годин тому

    Best solution:
    Day 1: Problem
    Day 2: Acknowledge problem
    Day 3: Fix problem
    Not:
    Day 1: Problem
    Day 2-999: ?
    Day 1000: Should probably fix that

  • @mish00lika
    @mish00lika 5 годин тому

    These games already are slot machines with extra steps.
    Wixwell and Trunda even remove the extra steps. Click button, get reward.
    Think about it like this: If Plarium adds a champion who does one million (or one billion) damage per hit, ignore all protections, would the game be fun?
    Would it still be a game?
    Would you want that champion? Why?

  • @rickybell
    @rickybell 8 годин тому

    being defensive proof that there are some truth to what you said... if it was nothing like that they would come out and be more open minded at the fact that *YOU CAN'T STOP DATA MINING* and it's one of the few real ways to *KEEP COMPANIES TRUTHFUL* to what they are saying...

  • @marvinmcmiller4260
    @marvinmcmiller4260 2 години тому

    I'm getting sick of plarium and this game. People figure out things and then they nerf it. This game is quickly becoming trash. Their lack of fixing problems from the start is pathetic at best.

  • @sirsquishington9084
    @sirsquishington9084 3 години тому

    Cap Yannica.
    Cap Ironclad.
    Cap any future skill designs like this so inifinty shields doesnt benefit them.
    They tried that with Acelin and missed it, which is fair, Its a random rare skill they missed.
    By capping it clearly is in the tooltip then, the shields/heals are not the problem its the damage that can be gained from them. If they dont cap the damage from skills like Yannica and Ironclad it will rear its head in the future.

  • @ExclusiveTrance
    @ExclusiveTrance 5 годин тому

    Every content creator hates Trunda with a passion until they get her, and then they still ask for a nerf but it all smiles and jokes nad it's not bad if she's not nerfed. The clear mind, logic and values have not just taken a big hit, they're dead and long forgotten, they've become a joke now and a distant memory.

  • @treeherder42
    @treeherder42 6 годин тому

    I wonder if raid is starting to run into "the yu-gi-oh problem".
    For those who don't know, yu-gi-oh has this (or had when I last played anything involving it) problem where new cards can have ridiculous levels of synergy with really old potentially useless stuff and result in stupidly overpowered combos.
    For them it happened because of power creep combined with a massive amount of listed effects that didn't have a ton of conditions because there was nothing to prevent at the time. Kind of like how yannica was meh and could kind of nuke magic keep when she didn't weak hit but she turns into a hydra monster because of the shield removal damage.
    We are seeing it more and more, cadaver, madman and now yannica all being old champs, not strong but some new mechanic or champ/comp sends them to everyones "I want " list.
    I think we will see a lot of this going forward and is absolutely going to be more nerfs, buffs, alterations and possibly even boss mechanic changes.

  • @theworldaccordingto8665
    @theworldaccordingto8665 3 години тому

    Perhaps the devs actually read the comments on the vids and realised the community response may have been far worse than they thought lol "we didnt say wixwell nerf, we said....ummm.... oh yeah Wixwell looks like a perv...thats what we said"

  • @georgeyporgey1104
    @georgeyporgey1104 4 години тому

    i like the shield team comps because it involves more complex mechanics to make it work, it requires alot of brain work unlike the trunda/yumeko comp doing 200billion 1key hydra clash points

  • @joedavis6524
    @joedavis6524 7 годин тому

    Your are right, of course, but I would be very bummed if they nerfed Wixwell. I spent weeks making a CB comp and it still doesn’t work perfectly for all affinities for UNM. It would really set my account back.

  • @granthicks8339
    @granthicks8339 6 годин тому

    Why do we need to NERF wixwell you are in the minority here sorry mate l don't have him but I don't want him nerfed you talk a lot about game balance ⚖️ but woe betide anyone who isn't spending an absolute fortune how dare they have a champ who can one key unm CB or hydra, you just can't compare wixwell teams with trunda the difference is literally billions so let's leave of the NERF wixwell alone please and, Tanoshimu Nihon

  • @ziya9767
    @ziya9767 6 годин тому

    Honestly screw Plarium if they do anything to Wixwell, i'm freaking tired that changes like that means there's no point building anything in this game, when just like that Plarium can fuck around and do whatever they like. You invest your time and in many cases money to build your dream team and boom it's gone cause they forgot about something. Fuck this i hope many will follow and forgot about this game if they make a move with "inaccurate nerf".