They were both backing up onto, and archiving from, Digital Betacam tapes. Fortunately Digital Betacam was sold in absolutely massive volumes and Sony only discontinued support very recently. Parts are not so likely to be an issue with Digital Betacam as they have been with D3. In general, parts are never such a problem with Sony equipment as they are with Panasonic. I have several JVC/Panasonic formats including MII, DVCPRO (including HD) and D9. None of those formats were very popular and most gained a reputation for poor reliability. In the tape based days, Sony had the market sewn up because the machines just worked and Sony knew how to provide backup.
"In general, parts are never such a problem with Sony equipment as they are with Panasonic." Do you have any source to back this statement other than your own experiences? It seems like a very broad statement.
OMG what a fascinating place the BBC Archive Centre at Perivale is to work and it is a place filled with so much broadcasting history and they have a range of vaults with 60 miles of shelving altogether which holds different media items from broadcast video cassettes to film, sheet music and spool they also have the last 60 years of television programmes and pretty much all of British television and media history is held at the archive centre. When you think about it they have over 16000000 items at Perivale no wonder it took seven months to move everything out of BBC Television Centre to the BBC Archive Centre.
It's good and all but one problem... we can't watch anything😂. All that work with archiving so much broadcast history then it get's put away never to be seen.
Fascinating video. I see it was made in 2013, so I'll be interested to know how the LTO tapes have fared after so long. I have never used data tapes myself so have never been overly concerned with their reliability, unlike audio and video tapes.
Should backup everything now and QC later. Also uncorrectable errors might be fixed in the future with future AI algorithms and the like. There must be a way Panasonic could make machines and spares if given enough money.
not worth betting on future inventions to correct archival material, just safer to take a few minutes out of the process to correct them now. should be able to continue backing up other stuff during the process. just my thinking on it anyways :)
12 years on... Still no sign of it all. I suspect they underestimated the cost of server maintenance for putting quite such an enormous amount of content on iPlayer. To be honest, iPlayer itself seems to have a very limited catalogue that has always suggested that they have the bare minimum of storage assigned to it and swap out shows periodically.
I wonder if they'll ever touch 'un-PC' content like the classic Benny Hill show that was beloved around the world and still is...much less ever release it or all the other content they've held onto for no one to ever see again.
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They were both backing up onto, and archiving from, Digital Betacam tapes. Fortunately Digital Betacam was sold in absolutely massive volumes and Sony only discontinued support very recently. Parts are not so likely to be an issue with Digital Betacam as they have been with D3. In general, parts are never such a problem with Sony equipment as they are with Panasonic. I have several JVC/Panasonic formats including MII, DVCPRO (including HD) and D9. None of those formats were very popular and most gained a reputation for poor reliability. In the tape based days, Sony had the market sewn up because the machines just worked and Sony knew how to provide backup.
"In general, parts are never such a problem with Sony equipment as they are with Panasonic." Do you have any source to back this statement other than your own experiences? It seems like a very broad statement.
Very well done! Makes me want to give more thought to archiving my family memories.
Many of the picture issues can be restored/fixed quite well with resolve studio or similar software like PFclean
OMG what a fascinating place the BBC Archive Centre at Perivale is to work and it is a place filled with so much broadcasting history and they have a range of vaults with 60 miles of shelving altogether which holds different media items from broadcast video cassettes to film, sheet music and spool they also have the last 60 years of television programmes and pretty much all of British television and media history is held at the archive centre.
When you think about it they have over 16000000 items at Perivale no wonder it took seven months to move everything out of BBC Television Centre to the BBC Archive Centre.
It's good and all but one problem... we can't watch anything😂. All that work with archiving so much broadcast history then it get's put away never to be seen.
@gyobfan22 What's the point in that when they can upload these old programmes to BBC I Player
Fascinating video. I see it was made in 2013, so I'll be interested to know how the LTO tapes have fared after so long. I have never used data tapes myself so have never been overly concerned with their reliability, unlike audio and video tapes.
And after digitisation the tapes were crushed and thrown down the dump.
Leaving only the digital copies remaining.
It's a bit of a scandal because there were suspected to be longevity issues with this type of metal-based tape when the BBC adopted D3 around 1991.
It's a crazy work. Intense and extensive.
Should backup everything now and QC later. Also uncorrectable errors might be fixed in the future with future AI algorithms and the like. There must be a way Panasonic could make machines and spares if given enough money.
not worth betting on future inventions to correct archival material, just safer to take a few minutes out of the process to correct them now. should be able to continue backing up other stuff during the process. just my thinking on it anyways :)
There is hardly anything from the archive on Iplayer still. When will they be adding this digitised archive?
No idea. It would be good if the whole lot was made available on the iPlayer
12 years on... Still no sign of it all. I suspect they underestimated the cost of server maintenance for putting quite such an enormous amount of content on iPlayer. To be honest, iPlayer itself seems to have a very limited catalogue that has always suggested that they have the bare minimum of storage assigned to it and swap out shows periodically.
Does anybody know which Betacam SP Master Broadcast Video Cassette the Playdays archives are stored on?
Sounds like Kiwi accent on Deon Cotgrove
As technology continues to advance, we have to advance with it
I wonder if they'll ever touch 'un-PC' content like the classic Benny Hill show that was beloved around the world and still is...much less ever release it or all the other content they've held onto for no one to ever see again.
Benny hill was digitised and released in full on dvd years ago.
So lame the archive part of iplayer barely has anything added
True. We want to see full series from the 60s & 70s on iplayer not just a short clip or 1 episode.
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Won't be long until LTO is obsolete.
In 2021 I copied my WD green 1TB HDDs from 2008-2009 to WD red 6TB HDDs without any errors🙂
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Worst intro ever lol