Cavendish are not a great candidate for colder climates, They rot easily and don't like to be below 40 deg so I question if you'llbe able to get them to fruit. The most cold hardy Cultivars of Banana that you will have the best luck with trying to grow them like that are Dwarf Orinico, Dwarf Namwah, Dwarf Goldfinger, Dwarf Brazillian, and Raja Puri. Orinoco is the most cold hardy but is more of a Plantain type Banana. Dwarf Namwah is a vigorous grower and probably the next most cold hardy. Good luck hope all grows well and looking forward to see your results.
There's very few nana available in Portugal but Cavendish are sold at the local farm shop for farmers to grow, so am presuming there must be some success. Also seen a few video of Americans in much colder climates succeeding, but here your concerns I have them too! I do also have Blue Java, Lady fingers and some wild plantains from China so am trying all. Will also seek out any other types as I find them or suppliers or people to swap with. That all said I did get 3x Cavendish through last winter wrapped in their pots and these are the 3 out in the ground... well see and thanks for the feedback/advice :)
Hi again you were in fact right. I've just unwrapped my nana circle. The musa, ensente are fine and have enormous trunks 10 inches, across and about 1 to 1.5m high. The Cavendish though have all rotted and lost all their trunks. They do all have a few tiny suckers so not dead but needed the trunks for potential flowers.... Will seek out the ones you recommended 👌👍 Which are the best for edible fruit vs our climate? I will wrap again in winter and try rot protect too
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid Aw man sorry to hear that, I was hoping they would do better. Hands down, Dwarf Namwah is my best hardy grower and I would recommend that. Many people consider it the best all around cold hardy for backyard growers that tastes very good and super sweet. If you can find Dwarf Orinoco definitely get that one, it's more of a plantain and not as sweet but still can be eaten as a desert banana.
Hey there! I have grown Canna indica, Red King Humberto, for a number of years. I call the edible portion of the rhizome “Canna spuds.” They taste like a new potato but have a higher water content so the texture is a bit different. Nothing unpleasant though. After cleaning I boil them and serve up with butter, salt and pepper. I add them wherever I could use new potatoes like salads, soups and stews. With a deep layer of mulch, King Humbert would over winter for me. That is until the polar vortex we had killled it. I have since switched to growing Achira (Canna edulis) the species domesticated for food production by the Inca. It has a much greater yield for me. It can be eaten raw, boiled, baked (made into noodles) and used to produce starch. This year I made starch from fresh spuds. Commercially the spuds are peeled, dried and milled before water is added. The slurry is drained and the starch precipitates from the liquid. The mash is dried and used in baked goods. I obtained starch from the fresh spuds instead of dried. Achira has the largest starch molecule on Earth. It’s three times bigger than potato starch. I can use the starch as a thickener. Awesome plant!
Thanks! That's great info, thanks, so much for sharing, I've ten or so huge tubers I was going to dry but want to eat them now! Will try and seek out the Canna Edulis, see if I can find seeds 👌
8 months ago you planted the banana circle and it seems like just a few weeks ago, quite scary how time seems to whizz by these days. One thing is for sure and that is the wealth of knowledge that you both have gained in what seems to be a short time. Amazing work and it certainly makes a good video, when you film every stage of a task.👍
I know it just flys by.... It's our 3rd winter here crazy! Our next hope is that the banana survive and we get fruit in the summer.... I'm quietly confident! 🍌🍌
Can't believe the actual size these banana plants grew to. All things crossed for you that they are well wrapped for winter. Looking forward to seeing the cabin build. Keep toasty in the night xxxxxxx
The young tubers of the cannas are delicious! They are like new potatoes. I live where it can get -10 F. I lift my cannas before frost, harvest tubers to eat and save some to replant.
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid I made a new comment due to length. I also Super dwarf Cavendish and Ensete ventricosum I plan to cut off the top of one of my big Ensetes, grow out the new starts, harvest the young corms for food as they do in Ethiopia. Cheers!
I understand that the Ensete fruit is cooked as a vegetable. The young corms are boiled and eaten. The mature corms from the large plants are dug up, cleaned and grated. Then the corms are fermented in a leaf lined pit or more recently in pottery crocks. Same idea as turning cabbage into sauerkraut. The large leaf petioles are cut and set onto a slanted board. The women scrape liquid from the petioles and collect into a vessel. This liquid is allowed to settle and starch is precipitated out. After the petioles are completely scraped, a quality fiber remains. This fiber is further processed into cordage and cloth. I tried processing the petioles when I cut back my plants. I got a tiny bit of starch but really not worth the effort. The Ensete are truly the tree of life to the people of southern Ethiopia. It provides shelter, clothing and food security. These people did not suffer through the horrific famine that the northern country did. It’s a very important plant. I have two that I’ve grown from seed. This will be my fourth year. I have to grow them in 20 gallon pots and keep them inside during the winter. Cheers!
Really interesting again, thanks, so much for sharing. Our musa, ensente haven't put any pups out this year vs the Cavendish which have had loads of pups. But will try eating when they due. Apparently the stems of musa basjoo are delicious too in stir fries 🙏🍌😍
Thank you, Wildlanders, for this invaluable guide on protecting plants from frost! Your tips are a game-changer for my garden, and I appreciate the effort you put into sharing this knowledge. 🌿 #GratefulGardener
Yes took us a while to get used to the weather we've had 3 frosts, already the day after we, wrapped the banana🍌 Happy Christmas too, today we go search for our tree 🎄🎄🎄😍🙏
Try growing Yacon. I did it for the 1st time this year in England, some really good tubers and there is a lot of top growth for shade and composting. I’m enjoying the videos. Cheers Martin
Thanks for the tip! Definitely want to try sone different varieties, see some are red, purple or brown is there a variety you recommend? We did try a few in the poly tunnel they grew but not so well....
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid Mine were “Inca red” that grew well in the polytunnel. Temperatures did get to over 40 degrees in the summer. I use a drip feed watering system at 3 minutes twice a day, keeps all my tomatoes, sweet potatoes and the Yacon growing well. I gave the Yacon and sweet potatoes an extra watering, probably a couple of times a week once they really got growing. I never did it with the tomatoes and they grew well plus didn’t split. One barrel is in the polytunnel but the top up is from outside. Using the drip system I can leave it easily for a couple of weeks.
Think was too hot in ourvpolytunnel and really doo need to fit irrigation there... Seems hard to source yacon here let alone different varieties will have to see what's available by post
great vid,just came across your channel by accident.just bought a property in castelo branco,planning planting bananas and cannas so a verry informative vid.just going to catch up on all your vids,good luck
hi guys,we are by alcains,we was in portugal for 3 weeks in september looking for land,we found one and bought it,deeds sighned two weeks ago.we are not over till may for a month,retire in about 2 years so can do three months there three back in uk,its got grape vines a few figs five orange trees 2 wells.planning on planting about an acre of cherrys.yes thanks mate for you offer,will buy some plants of you in mid may.ill keep in touch
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid I do plant a food forest 🌳. Brazil is very big, we have different climates here. below zero and above 40 in some regions. we can grow almost anything
Hi yes definitely but not till mid spring after last frosts as they're all wrapped up now. But I've dwarf Cavendish, super dwarfs, tropicana which are fruiters and also musa basjoo which is more ornamental but you can eat the stems in stir fry 😍🍌
Cavendish are not a great candidate for colder climates, They rot easily and don't like to be below 40 deg so I question if you'llbe able to get them to fruit. The most cold hardy Cultivars of Banana that you will have the best luck with trying to grow them like that are Dwarf Orinico, Dwarf Namwah, Dwarf Goldfinger, Dwarf Brazillian, and Raja Puri. Orinoco is the most cold hardy but is more of a Plantain type Banana. Dwarf Namwah is a vigorous grower and probably the next most cold hardy. Good luck hope all grows well and looking forward to see your results.
There's very few nana available in Portugal but Cavendish are sold at the local farm shop for farmers to grow, so am presuming there must be some success. Also seen a few video of Americans in much colder climates succeeding, but here your concerns I have them too!
I do also have Blue Java, Lady fingers and some wild plantains from China so am trying all. Will also seek out any other types as I find them or suppliers or people to swap with.
That all said I did get 3x Cavendish through last winter wrapped in their pots and these are the 3 out in the ground... well see and thanks for the feedback/advice :)
Hi again you were in fact right. I've just unwrapped my nana circle. The musa, ensente are fine and have enormous trunks 10 inches, across and about 1 to 1.5m high. The Cavendish though have all rotted and lost all their trunks. They do all have a few tiny suckers so not dead but needed the trunks for potential flowers.... Will seek out the ones you recommended 👌👍
Which are the best for edible fruit vs our climate? I will wrap again in winter and try rot protect too
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid Aw man sorry to hear that, I was hoping they would do better. Hands down, Dwarf Namwah is my best hardy grower and I would recommend that. Many people consider it the best all around cold hardy for backyard growers that tastes very good and super sweet. If you can find Dwarf Orinoco definitely get that one, it's more of a plantain and not as sweet but still can be eaten as a desert banana.
Merry Christmas everyone on wildlands.
Thanks Anthony, we're looking forward to finding a pine-tree to be the Wildlanders crimbo tree 🎄🎄🎅
Hey there! I have grown Canna indica, Red King Humberto, for a number of years. I call the edible portion of the rhizome “Canna spuds.” They taste like a new potato but have a higher water content so the texture is a bit different. Nothing unpleasant though. After cleaning I boil them and serve up with butter, salt and pepper. I add them wherever I could use new potatoes like salads, soups and stews. With a deep layer of mulch, King Humbert would over winter for me. That is until the polar vortex we had killled it. I have since switched to growing Achira (Canna edulis) the species domesticated for food production by the Inca. It has a much greater yield for me. It can be eaten raw, boiled, baked (made into noodles) and used to produce starch. This year I made starch from fresh spuds. Commercially the spuds are peeled, dried and milled before water is added. The slurry is drained and the starch precipitates from the liquid. The mash is dried and used in baked goods. I obtained starch from the fresh spuds instead of dried. Achira has the largest starch molecule on Earth. It’s three times bigger than potato starch. I can use the starch as a thickener. Awesome plant!
Thanks! That's great info, thanks, so much for sharing, I've ten or so huge tubers I was going to dry but want to eat them now! Will try and seek out the Canna Edulis, see if I can find seeds 👌
8 months ago you planted the banana circle and it seems like just a few weeks ago, quite scary how time seems to whizz by these days. One thing is for sure and that is the wealth of knowledge that you both have gained in what seems to be a short time. Amazing work and it certainly makes a good video, when you film every stage of a task.👍
I know it just flys by.... It's our 3rd winter here crazy! Our next hope is that the banana survive and we get fruit in the summer.... I'm quietly confident! 🍌🍌
Can't believe the actual size these banana plants grew to. All things crossed for you that they are well wrapped for winter. Looking forward to seeing the cabin build. Keep toasty in the night xxxxxxx
I know haven't they grown! Fingers crossed for fruit in the summer 🍌🍌🍌 the roofs on the cabin and that's our next video for you 🙏😍
Great looking crops you have.
Thanks Joyce 👌 are you growing?
The young tubers of the cannas are delicious! They are like new potatoes. I live where it can get -10 F. I lift my cannas before frost, harvest tubers to eat and save some to replant.
Despite the bumper crop not tried eating yet.... Do you boil like a potato, what's your best canna recipe? 🙏
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid I made a new comment due to length. I also Super dwarf Cavendish and Ensete ventricosum I plan to cut off the top of one of my big Ensetes, grow out the new starts, harvest the young corms for food as they do in Ethiopia. Cheers!
Harvest the baby nana to eat? Roots, and corms of?
I understand that the Ensete fruit is cooked as a vegetable. The young corms are boiled and eaten. The mature corms from the large plants are dug up, cleaned and grated. Then the corms are fermented in a leaf lined pit or more recently in pottery crocks. Same idea as turning cabbage into sauerkraut. The large leaf petioles are cut and set onto a slanted board. The women scrape liquid from the petioles and collect into a vessel. This liquid is allowed to settle and starch is precipitated out. After the petioles are completely scraped, a quality fiber remains. This fiber is further processed into cordage and cloth. I tried processing the petioles when I cut back my plants. I got a tiny bit of starch but really not worth the effort. The Ensete are truly the tree of life to the people of southern Ethiopia. It provides shelter, clothing and food security. These people did not suffer through the horrific famine that the northern country did. It’s a very important plant. I have two that I’ve grown from seed. This will be my fourth year. I have to grow them in 20 gallon pots and keep them inside during the winter. Cheers!
Really interesting again, thanks, so much for sharing. Our musa, ensente haven't put any pups out this year vs the Cavendish which have had loads of pups. But will try eating when they due. Apparently the stems of musa basjoo are delicious too in stir fries 🙏🍌😍
Hi hope we have a plant friendly winter 👍
I hope so too! 🌿🌱🥬
very interesting! A lot of TLC, but well worth it for such lovely plants
Thanks, hopefully all our tropicals will make it to the spring, and really hoping the banana fruit! 🌞🍌🍌🍌🍌
Awesome video and TLC how to protect plants, from the winter weather, your land is looking great, thank you for sharing.
So nice of you to say Susan 👌🍌🍌🙏 now we just hope the nana fruit in the summer
Thank you, Wildlanders, for this invaluable guide on protecting plants from frost! Your tips are a game-changer for my garden, and I appreciate the effort you put into sharing this knowledge. 🌿 #GratefulGardener
Glad to help! Are you going to be wrapping your tender plants? Or planting tropicals? 🌞
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid maybe both! Wrapping the plants we have already might be a good start though.
Make, sure not to win your frost window, our pots got zapped by an early frost so kicking myself!
Love it now I am dying to try it.
You should! 🍌😍
Thankyou! This is the best explanation I've watched on banana treatment for frosty areas.
Thanks 🙏 where are you growing? And presume you have nana 💛
Very interesting. Craic on!😊❤
Thanks 👌 cabin roof next!
That was very interesting, i have wondered about this since learning how cold it got at night.
its all coming on well, have a happy xmas
Yes took us a while to get used to the weather we've had 3 frosts, already the day after we, wrapped the banana🍌
Happy Christmas too, today we go search for our tree 🎄🎄🎄😍🙏
Well jealous, well done Don🎉
Give it a go!! 🍌🍌🍌😊
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid we rent, will stick with my canas and bird of paradies,
Love birdcof paradise, we've none flowering here. Can't wait for the flowers are yours flowering in the summer?
Try growing Yacon. I did it for the 1st time this year in England, some really good tubers and there is a lot of top growth for shade and composting.
I’m enjoying the videos.
Cheers
Martin
Thanks for the tip! Definitely want to try sone different varieties, see some are red, purple or brown is there a variety you recommend? We did try a few in the poly tunnel they grew but not so well....
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid Mine were “Inca red” that grew well in the polytunnel. Temperatures did get to over 40 degrees in the summer. I use a drip feed watering system at 3 minutes twice a day, keeps all my tomatoes, sweet potatoes and the Yacon growing well. I gave the Yacon and sweet potatoes an extra watering, probably a couple of times a week once they really got growing. I never did it with the tomatoes and they grew well plus didn’t split. One barrel is in the polytunnel but the top up is from outside. Using the drip system I can leave it easily for a couple of weeks.
Think was too hot in ourvpolytunnel and really doo need to fit irrigation there... Seems hard to source yacon here let alone different varieties will have to see what's available by post
Well done Don on your banana 🍌 growth 👏👏👏
Thanks, Celia, didn't they get big!!
Next to get them to fruit 🍌
Great Video ❤ So relaxing watching this with my 1 beer! 👍🍻🍻
Thanks and is that 1 beer per hour? 🍻😂
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid had 3 watching your video! 🤣
@garryafurze 😂🍻🍺
Great tips 👍
Thanks, Denise 🍌💛👌
Great watch thanks again
Thanks for watching 🍌👌🙏
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Great video! Thanks you 🌿🌱
Our pleasure! :) and thank YOU FOR WATCHING
God, a lot of work, ur committed, hope it produces
Thanks, and took a day really to wrap the circle and also all our pots. Hopefully worth it! 🙏🍌🌞
great vid,just came across your channel by accident.just bought a property in castelo branco,planning planting bananas and cannas so a verry informative vid.just going to catch up on all your vids,good luck
Cheers Shane, were near Castelo too, where abouts are you, we're nearer to Salguiero Do Campo.If you need nana etc in the Spring let me know :)
hi guys,we are by alcains,we was in portugal for 3 weeks in september looking for land,we found one and bought it,deeds sighned two weeks ago.we are not over till may for a month,retire in about 2 years so can do three months there three back in uk,its got grape vines a few figs five orange trees 2 wells.planning on planting about an acre of cherrys.yes thanks mate for you offer,will buy some plants of you in mid may.ill keep in touch
Cold climate!?! In Portugal? Greetings from the arctic in Norway 😜😂
Cold for banana lol, minus 7c
Very good video! Let's plant a food forest 🍌🍍 🍉🥑 we have some projects here in Brazil too 🌍
Have you planted a food forest? I bet you can grow some super tropical stuff huge? 🌞🌻🍌
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid I do plant a food forest 🌳. Brazil is very big, we have different climates here. below zero and above 40 in some regions. we can grow almost anything
@@semeandofloresta ah very similar to here then we go up to 47 c and down to minus 7
Hello, is it possible to get some of your Banana Bulbs? Kind regards.
Hi yes definitely but not till mid spring after last frosts as they're all wrapped up now. But I've dwarf Cavendish, super dwarfs, tropicana which are fruiters and also musa basjoo which is more ornamental but you can eat the stems in stir fry 😍🍌
Looks great how cold does it get in winter?
Minus, 7 c last winter ❄️
@@TheWildlandersOffGrid awesome 👍 do they all give fruit in the summer?
We won't know until this coming summer if they fruit and how much fruit if they doo as most nana take at least 15 months to flower and fruit
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what usda zone are you
Were in Portugal. We go to minus 7 c and up to 47 c
you can but you wont have any bananas, dont do it and skip this bs
Bet you we will! :)
lol.@@TheWildlandersOffGrid
Hello, is it possible to get some of your Banana Bulbs? Kind regards.
Hi yes we've lots, contact us in mid spring when risk of frosts have past 😊