New Tank Fish Death: "What’s Going On?" Tips for a Healthy New Tank!

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2018
  • You finally have your new tank up and running. You buy fish and they are beautiful ... but they start to show signs of distress, hanging out in the back corner, not eating, gasping, ultimately dying.
    Sound familiar?
    Did someone sell you sick fish? That's certainly possible, but I have another theory that I want you to consider.
    I far too often see this comment: "My fish are dying!" I hate to read it because I know that there's a very unhappy fish keeper on the other end.
    Perhaps what I cover in this video can help you or another fish keeper setting up their first tank to not have to suffer an expensive and disappointing die off. Take a look and please share this video with anyone that may have gone through this or anyone about to embark on keeping tropical fish.
    Please be sure to share your comments and experience below. We are constantly learning from each other!
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  • @catfishcave379
    @catfishcave379 5 років тому +14

    Patience, patience, patience - the three keys to this hobby.

  • @wireworks616
    @wireworks616 5 років тому +2

    This is the best explanation I've seen on cycling a fish tank. Great Job.

  • @damonghanayem9982
    @damonghanayem9982 5 років тому

    Great vid Ben thank you. Love to hear you get back to the basics man! Actually have a young friend I gave a small tank setup to for her to enjoy and instead of me explaining this to her, I’m going to let you do it! Thanks and have a super week. GB

  • @michael-ev5fk
    @michael-ev5fk 5 років тому +2

    As always excellent video Ben. It seems the basics of a properly cycled tank can't be discussed enough. And patience, wow that's so true. Love the onscreen graphics you put up giving academic visual presentation to help explain your point.
    Thanks Ben 😊

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Thanks Michael, I'm glad you liked it!

  • @janhrdina4829
    @janhrdina4829 5 років тому

    It was already explained approximately a million times, but obviously it is not enough. This version of the story is definitely one of the best ones so far. I mean the info there is as good as in the other videos, but it is important how it is delivered to the people and in this case the wording and simply the way of explanation is perfect. Thanks Ben.

  • @cathywillyard7844
    @cathywillyard7844 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Ben! You really make me feel confident in the way you explain things . . Knowledge is power! :)

  • @HeatherNielsenScarletAquatics
    @HeatherNielsenScarletAquatics 5 років тому +1

    Great explanation and information as always Ben. Thank you!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      You are welcome and thank you for stopping by Heather.

  • @missyalexander3174
    @missyalexander3174 4 роки тому

    I love ur videos. They have saved me so many times.

  • @andrewdix3466
    @andrewdix3466 5 років тому +2

    Great content Ben, my son and I are cycling our first 400L tank! Our water parameters are showing the tank has successfully cycled, so hopefully soon we'll have a few Cichlids swimming around.
    Keep up the great content, we've learnt/learning alot from your videos.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      I love hearing a parent/child tank project. Good luck with the new tank and feel free to reach out if I can be of any help.

  • @pondguru
    @pondguru 5 років тому +14

    Good explanation, man - the solution to preventing introduced fish death sounds like the title of one of my old videos and the subject of 95% of my aquarium related videos "Filtration, Filtration, Filtration" - you're right with the 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite being the time to add fish (then trickle them in over weeks / months to allow filter time to mature in line with stock) but I'd argue that is only half the cycle.
    Admittedly that's what 99% of people will only ever see (for various reasons) and for sure the aerobic part is the most important part of the cycle since the ammonia and nitrite are more deadly than nitrate but full cycle is a game of 2 halves, just like football (soccer) and there is no point going all out in the first half when the opposition is playing hard for the full game as the game will end in defeat.
    That probably made no sense to people outside Europe....lol
    On another note, pH shock can be a factor in introduced fish deaths too and fish can go from one body of water which tests good to another one which tests good but if the pH is way different that can cause a real shock to their systems. When I had the shop we'd always ask customers what the current pH of their tank was since we kept many of the fish we sold in their correct water conditions (soft water of pH6.5 for S. American and Asian fish, hard water of pH 8.2 for African cichlids) and tried to encourage customers to do the same with regard to creating a natural habitat and water conditions. Most of the fish were tank bred so I suppose it wasn't hyper important to match conditions but we got many of the fish from specialist breeders who did keep fish in their natural conditions so we did the same for continued success.
    I'm rambling now....have a good christmas and best wishes for 2019.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +2

      Hello Richard. I've been contemplating that canister/pre-filter idea we talked about a while back. A SunSun 704-B stuffed with media like biohome ultimate, and a SunSun 603 sponge pre filter. The bio media could be rinsed in tank water every six months but otherwise left alone and the sponges could be rinsed every month. The 603's come in a clear plastic so it's easy to see how the sponges are holding up. That system could achieve the full cycle (both halves of the game 😉 Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or whatever you say across the pond 😀

    • @susanbriggs862
      @susanbriggs862 5 років тому

      It's crazy, but so many of the South American fish I buy from my LFS, are kept in very alkaline and hard water, whereas my tank is around 6.6 with hardness of 107.4 ppn. I have to drip acclimate my fish to prevent shock or stress related diseases. Amazing how their color comes back after a week or two in their preferred water parameters. I wish we had more shops like yours.

    • @paulcox4369
      @paulcox4369 5 років тому

      Very good points. I have had a long struggle to complete the nitrogen cycle & you are right most aquarists think it ends with nitrate not nitrogen gas! I started off with biohome l suspect l didn't use enough it's a 2,400L tank, then a sulphur reactor, then splitting the system into two sumps one with very low flow and an aquaponic bed which l loved, all of this worked a bit, down to 20ppm, but only when l did some awkward plumbing & installed a constant drip system did l finally get down to 5ppm. Not really completing the cycle but the fish don't know that! Keep up your good work in raising awareness of the full cycle.

    • @susanbriggs862
      @susanbriggs862 5 років тому

      If you ever set up a pre-canister filter with just sponges, please do a video. I've seen the pond guru talk about these small pre-canister filters and using the main canister filter for just biomedia. Would love to see if it works as far as lowering nitrates.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru 5 років тому

      @@paulcox4369 That sounds like a pretty good cycle to me if you only have 5ppm as nitrates seem to get processed much slower than ammonia and nitrite. A 2400 litre tank is a monster and depending on stock could take anywhere from 25kg - 50kg if you were only using biohome in a sump, a major outlay financially. Slow flow will encourage more anaerobic conditions and the choice of media in such a filter will be critical - the biohome ultimate seems to work incredibly well in 'nitrate reactors' as the de-oxygenated environment really skews bacteria supported by the media heavily in favor of anaerobic so you would need nowhere as much when using in a slow flow / anaerobic filter than if it was used in a full flow standard filter.

  • @sherrysfishroom6597
    @sherrysfishroom6597 5 років тому +1

    Very helpful information. Thank you. Tank is looking good behind you. Happy Holidays.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Thank you Sherry and Happy Holidays to you as well 😀

  • @chiprobertson3094
    @chiprobertson3094 Рік тому

    thank buddy well done video it helped alot

  • @dennisruedel
    @dennisruedel 5 років тому +1

    Hey Ben, you did a great job explaining the Nitrogen Cyvita and tips to get it started and stabilized. The fish look awesome buddy! Thanks for sharing 👍.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Thank you Dennis for stopping by and watching. Merry Christmas my friend.

  • @0134harley
    @0134harley 3 роки тому +1

    Yes patience is the number 1 factor to successful fish keep , i have a newly set up tank , i introduced fish the very first day , ended all most fishes died , water cloudy due to bacteria bloom , at that time I thought of giving up on fish keeping, but I didn’t , and now i am successful with fish keeping, all my new fishes doing great , so patience is the key to healthy fish aquarium 👍🙏

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 роки тому +1

      That’s very good that you stuck with it despite the initial set-back

  • @gabedestellano
    @gabedestellano 3 роки тому

    Hey Ben! This is DudeThat'sCichlid!! LTNS... Thanks for posting this, I'm sending it along to a friend. Hope all is well!!

  • @ErwinMeister8
    @ErwinMeister8 3 роки тому +1

    hi thank you for this video, im just learning about this. excellent advice!

  • @KGcichlids
    @KGcichlids 5 років тому +1

    this is a great video and very helpful for newcomers!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Hey Kevin, thanks for watching! You were not "first" so you forfeit one beer, LOL!

  • @josemontalvo4532
    @josemontalvo4532 5 років тому +1

    Excellent advice. Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed watching!

  • @inventoryking
    @inventoryking 5 років тому +5

    Hey Ben. I have used pure ammonia to help the cycle speed up. Adding the fish in slow like you said is a good practice when the tank is ready.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      Hey Paul, I'm not speaking to you because you sold that Sand Diver to someone else, LOL!!! Thanks for stopping by and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

  • @OtterCreekAquatics
    @OtterCreekAquatics 5 років тому +1

    Nice information!

  • @susanbriggs862
    @susanbriggs862 5 років тому +1

    Good advice Ben! It's easy to get excited and stock a newly cycled tank too quickly. Slow is the way to go as a new tank is always a little unstable until it gets established. My tanks are planted, so I age them about a month before I start adding fish. I use ammonium chloride to feed the bio-filter until fish are added. Adding SeaChem Stability with the addition of fish also helps. I add the smallest fish with the least bioload first. I love using sponge filters on my intakes to provide additional surface area for the nitrifying bacteria.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Great system you have there Susan. Thank you for watching!

  • @anthonyragan2696
    @anthonyragan2696 5 років тому +1

    My rule of thumb is that the water has to cycle from 2PPM of ammonia to 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites in 24 hours to be considered cycled. I wish more fish stores would teach that rule about patience you mentioned: it's the fishkeeper's best friend.

  • @scottfroglets3768
    @scottfroglets3768 5 років тому +1

    Great video an good tips Ben

  • @angadik
    @angadik 5 років тому +1

    this video is so great because i just bought a 75 gallons thanks ben

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      I hope it helps kratos!

  • @alejandrolisdero4531
    @alejandrolisdero4531 2 роки тому

    Nitrogen cycle. Very good explananation. Gradually introducing fishes. Testing.
    All things we learned the hard way.

  • @51inches
    @51inches 5 років тому +1

    GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL BEN......

  • @photosmithy
    @photosmithy 4 роки тому

    Thanks for posting this. Bought a fish tank 2 weeks ago and have learnt the hard way.

  • @ahmeddiallo8368
    @ahmeddiallo8368 9 місяців тому

    Good explanation I just started too and lost 2 out of 11 so it’s not too bad.

  • @kevather123
    @kevather123 5 років тому +5

    Great information Ben. As a new fishkeeper I chose the fishless cycling option using pure ammonia (Dr Tims) along with some seachem stability . Took me roughly 5 weeks from start to finish to build up my fx6 with enough friendly bacteria to combat the ammonia. Once established my tank would eliminate 4ppm of ammonia in 12-16 hours with zero nitrites . I think this option is great when you're wanting to stock your tank all at once , can deal with the dreaded ammonia spike from the start, my fish have been settled for 6 weeks now and had no problems with unexpected deaths . I guess lots of research beforehand made the difference for me , i didnt add fish until i knew the tank was perfect , thankfully UA-cam helped me along the way 👍

    • @GSP-76
      @GSP-76 5 років тому +1

      This method worked and there's nothing wrong with it but Stability doesn't require to be used this way...with Stability, you could safely do a "fish-in" cycle from day 1...just keep dosing daily for a week (two if needed) and you will likely see nitrates very quickly.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      You're on your way Kevin without the set back so many experience in the beginning. Good job.

  • @vinfish4697
    @vinfish4697 5 років тому +1

    more than happy that you explained all that Because that is the most Frustrating part of the Hobby

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      It certainly frustrated me when I first started. I would get everything nice and clean (kill off the BB) and then watch my fish struggle and die off. Thanks for stopping by Vinfish!

  • @JustMyFish
    @JustMyFish 5 років тому +2

    If it's your first tank setup. For example 50g I half cycle 25g I add a prawn so it brakes down after 4 days I test water as soon as I see ammonia 10ppm I then top off the tank with treated water day 6 I drop a carl sea pond bomb in to the filter. Day 8 Retest I see ammonia 0 nitrates 10 ppm I do a 10% water change. Day 10 Retest water I see 0% ammonia 0% nitrates I drop in a second pond bomb this time direct in the the tank. Day 12 I Retest water I see it is all still at 0:N 0:A I add 2 to 3 fish. I keep testing water and add 2 to 3 fish per week over a month or so. Always testing water every 2 days. That's what works for me. I call it the 12 day cycle. The last tank I used this method on was my 180g 💯% my proffered method 👍

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      Very cool, thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!

    • @JustMyFish
      @JustMyFish 5 років тому

      @@BenOchart No problem love watching 👀👍 obviously my methods may not be for everyone it's not cheap for the pond bombs. But it's worth the money just in time saved.

  • @HalfManHalfCichlid
    @HalfManHalfCichlid 5 років тому +1

    Patience and time for the beneficial bacteria (BB) to multiply to where they can rapidly convert the ammonia and nitrites is essential as you mention. The BB develop into a “biofilm” over time on the aquarium and filter media. Just as important as time is providing sufficient media surface area for the biofilm to form and thrive to support a given fish population. This is why larger tanks with larger fish loads need to transition to sumps to provide that extra media surface area for more biofilm development. Great topic.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Hey John, Yes, I'm a sump believer! 😀 Happy Holidays to you and yours.

  • @5jjt
    @5jjt 3 роки тому

    Thanks for posting this video. I came across it searching for why my daughter's fish keep dying off one by one. She's had her new 20 gallon tank, heater, filter, fake plants & gravel for 5 days.
    On the second day, PetsSmart let us take 4 fish home from the prior day setup of the tank. We added water on day one, then added conditioner, plants etc, then added 4 fish on day two. Two died on day three, and another day 4. On day two, we learned fish need certain things to stay alive; very specific microscopic things. All we knew was the water had to be free of contaminates; we didn't know how sensitive fish are and what sort of ecosystem they need.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 роки тому

      I really wish fish stores did a better job of educating new fish keepers. I hope your daughter and you continue in the hobby. Once understood fish death becomes very infrequent.

  • @dimplejohal6383
    @dimplejohal6383 3 роки тому

    Omg I needed to see this video, I just got a new tank and the local fish store advised to put in 5 neon tetras to help cycle the tank as they are "hardy" fish, within 24 hours they all died, I went back to the fish store the next day they tested the water and said it was fine gave me 5 more neons and the same thing happened, they all died. I've now started afresh changed the water etc I'm letting it run before I add any fish as I'm now quite anxious I don't want any more fish to die

  • @heatherleelovejoy9690
    @heatherleelovejoy9690 5 років тому

    Great video! I learn so much from your videos! Some advice from you would be great, 1 of my tanks is a 36 gallon community tank with guppies/ platys, I'm battling with parasites, I have a couple with sinkin bellies and one female her Gills are open all the time, this started a couple days ago, instead of pulling out the hand full of fish and putting them in my hospital tank I have decided to treat the whole tank, I'm using API general cure , because that's what I have on hand for Quarantining new fish , today is my second dose, no results yet, what would you recommend?

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      Those gills are spread out because parasites are blocking breathing. You might need to go with something stronger like Clout. Google "parasites in fresh water aquarium fish" and you'll get several recommendations. Be sure that you first remove the Gen Cure with a big water change and some carbon in the filter. After a couple of days throw out the carbon and start treating with stronger meds. This is just one man's advice so do more research. There are lot's of good UA-cam videos on the subject. Good luck.

  • @kevather123
    @kevather123 5 років тому

    Ben have you done a video on your filter setup ? I'd like to know what your prefared chemical option is . I'm using purigen at the moment in my chemical tray and would like to know if you have used or using activated carbon ? . I'd like to hear your views . thanks

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 5 років тому +1

    Good video Ben..most people who really care for fish wait the required time for a tank to cycle...but these days, it's not necessarily required as we have excellent products like Seachem Stability which can effectively cycle your tank in 7-10 days while keeping your fish safe...I cycled my 150g this way and had 3 adult sized African Cichlids in the tank from Day1...had nitrates in the tank on day 9.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Yes, Seachem Stability, used as directed, is a GREAT way to jump start a tank. Someone mentioned Fritz Aquatics Turbo Start. I like Fritz products so I'm gonna check that stuff out. Thanks for stopping by GP, always appreciated.

    • @GSP-76
      @GSP-76 5 років тому

      @@BenOchart Yes, Fritz has a competing product that works in the same way...did you know that these products contain nitrifying AND de-nitrifying bacteria all in the same bottle!

  • @wolveloganurbex
    @wolveloganurbex 5 років тому

    I had the same problem about a month ago. I just set up a lake malawi cichlid tank, my friend gave me 9cichlids for me to stock - pecocks, a venustus, an eyebiter & an electric blue hap. Everything seemd ok & a week later he gave me another peacock (ob). About 2-3days later 3fishes died. I changed the water but a couple of days later my fish kept dying until only 1 survived - an albino rubin peacock. I was devastated. I was giving up on my new cichlid tank. I changed the water twice a week for 2weeks before slowly adding up new fish, 2-3cichlids every week. Now i have 9.

  • @bipolaraquatics
    @bipolaraquatics 5 років тому +1

    Always keep extra sponge filters in established tanks just in case mts kicks in

  • @paulcox4369
    @paulcox4369 5 років тому +1

    Another good topic. As african cichlid keepers we have to be especially careful of this as at higher ph ammonia is produced from fish wast etc, which as we know is highly toxic, at low ph ammonium is produced and this isn't toxic to fish. It all has something to do with positive and negative ions, then it gets completed! The filtration debate, is very interesting but l think has no real right or wrong, it's all down to how much surface area you have for the benificial bacteria to attach to, if you have substrate lots of rockwork etc your filter may only need to provide mechanical filtration & water flow, aireation. So sometimes putting excess filtration in is wasteful, unnecessary and possibly harmful in that they produce heat we may not want in hot weather.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Excellent points. Some pumps / canisters run so warm that the heater never needs to come on.

  • @elizaaranzamendez3666
    @elizaaranzamendez3666 4 роки тому

    Hi. I don't have a new tank but I had a geo for 2 weeks and he was doing fine, no disease, eating normal, but this morning I got up and he was dead. I know this may sound crazy asking if you know why but I thought I'd try. Thank you

  • @yogeshagrawal9364
    @yogeshagrawal9364 2 роки тому

    I purchased a 6.7 gallon new tank and put tap water after putting gravel and plants and kept the tank with filter on for 3 days. On 3 day I put 3 fishes( 2 inches) each and with in 1 hour all three fish died. What wrong I did and how to fix it?

  • @nataliespark4748
    @nataliespark4748 5 років тому

    I have a new 30litre tank, cycled for four weeks. The shop tested my water, and said it was fine. I have added two corydoras, and 6 neon tetra. The corydoras are both sick. I noticed one was lethargic in comparison to the other and took it back and they tested the water again and gave me a PH reducer and ammonia detixifier. Now it is on its side breathing heavily at the bottom of the tank, and has been since yesterday, it is not moving or eating. The other was fine, but has become lethargic today. The water also went really cloudy when I added the fish. Any ideas?

  • @JC.Guppies
    @JC.Guppies 5 років тому

    I have a 55 g peacock and hap tank. One of my peacock is getting fin nipped and he is getting bullied constantly, So i want to set up a small hospital tank to heal him out. I have this 5 gallon aquarium, can i put the same water thats in my 55g tank, add a tiny internal filter in the 5 g, and add a 50 watt heater just for 1-2 weeks?

  • @jessicaclaudio423
    @jessicaclaudio423 3 роки тому

    hey i know this video is old but i have a tiger barb fish but two of them and i have a bala shark in a 10 gallon because they are very small and i just cleaned out the tank my fish just died like 30 minutes after putting her in there ( the tiger barb) please help me!!

  • @sarahdonaldson3446
    @sarahdonaldson3446 2 роки тому

    I can't praise you enough for.. Getting to the point short-sleeved effective.. however.. and I am going to tell you the dreaded news.. I overstaked a 180l that was sycled.. iv lost 2 female fighters out of 3. And 7 out of 9 guppies I still have a coral catfish and 4 dwarf guaramies starting to show a parasite infection. I thought my guppies were getting aggressive and killing each other all being makes. Conclusion is iv overstocked my tank.. do I need to watch these fish die? I have just flushed a guppy as he was suffering! Help please. Sj

  • @evelynstephens3354
    @evelynstephens3354 3 роки тому

    Hello, we had purchased some plants from a local pet store and they were infected with trumpet snails. We had an established tank with Angel fish. We tried everything to rid the tank of the snails but it became overrun. We decided to dump the whole tank and get new everything as the snail eggs were embedded in everything. We set up a new tank but had to put the fish back in as we had nowhere else to keep them during proper circulation. Needless to say they died. I’m heartbroken. Do you have any advice on a better way to handle that? Thank you

  • @garyhatley9756
    @garyhatley9756 4 місяці тому

    What if you can't keep fish in your fish and you put them in it and they dieI've got a 29 gallon fish aquarium and I can't get a fish to live in in my tank what's wrong with it or what am I doing wrong now I can't get a fish to live in it

  • @lukeanthony8
    @lukeanthony8 3 роки тому

    M keeping Cardinal Terra. Off the many terra I put into the tank only 1 survive for months . The rest die off daily

  • @mitchelldallison5
    @mitchelldallison5 3 роки тому

    Hi Ben. Just set up a Malawi tank and done exactly what you said, rushed. Had a die off of 6 fish over night. Absolutely gutted. My water is now really cloudy. What I presume is that this is caused by dead fish being sat in the tank. What’s the best option for this? Just leave it and let it cycle. I don’t know

  • @Lexicoyote
    @Lexicoyote Рік тому

    Just add a used filter on the tank and get a instant cycle or fill a filter with used media and get the same benefits. Cheers.

  • @issacwhite4539
    @issacwhite4539 3 роки тому

    I had 3 fish and just gave 1 away for reasons. But 1 of the 2 angle fish I have is dying. What’s this for. It’s like a month old tank. This is enough to support it right?

  • @BManeBLVDMONEY
    @BManeBLVDMONEY 3 роки тому

    I’m here because my new fish died … but the the person store guy ain’t tell me non of this I told him i was new also 🤦🏾‍♂️ so do I leave the dead fish in there to create bacteria 🦠? (Don’t want to sound dumb) I had got a pitcus and two cichlids what do I do now ? Please help

  • @gabrielequihua3133
    @gabrielequihua3133 5 років тому

    What's up Ben new to the hobby have a 80 gallon with some nice fish been watching ur tips and was wondering if u can help me identify some of my ciclids

  • @fredmorina861
    @fredmorina861 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Ben.
    I was hoping to get your opinion on a new-tank startup. It's a 75-Gallon Lake Tanganyika Tank, and I have a question regarding how I should add these fish to their new home.
    Just a little info about the tank (in its current state). It's A 75 Gallon Display tank with a 40-Gallon Sump. The aquascape includes Aragonite sand and some crushed coral to buffer the PH, many pounds of Seiryu Stones that have been glued in place (to protect the Cichlids that like to dig), and a few hardy low-light plants. The tank has been filled (no fish yet) and filtering for about 5-weeks. Current water test readings show 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrites, and 10-20 ppm Nitrates...so things are starting to happen.
    I’m working with my local fish store to order 4-species of Lake Tanganyika fish for this tank. Approximately 20 juvenile fish (1-2 in size).
    - Neolamprologus multifasciatus
    - Neolamprologus leleupi
    - Julidochromis transcriptus
    - Cyprichromis leptosome
    However, I’m realizing that his shipments are very erratic. If I’m fortunate enough to get everything I ordered, it will probably take months. What he does receive will most likely arrive in small partial shipments.
    I’ve seen many videos about ways of acclimating new cichlids into an existing tank in order to minimize aggression, but that’s difficult for me to do. Most of my aquascape is glued in place, and once I place a fish in there it will be nearly impossible to get him out. Because of this my thought was to add all the fish at once (I know this is frowned upon). Just prior to stocking the tank I would be able to move several bags of bio-media and a couple of small sponge filters from an existing tank into the sump. I’d also start dosing the tank with Seachem Stability. My tank is already showing signs of cycling, so this would add to the beneficial bacteria that already exists.
    My Dilemma…Should I stick to my original plan of stocking this tank all at once, even though I may not be able to do that for another month (or longer), or should I slowly add the fish I ordered as they are received (and hope there’s limited aggression when I do so)?
    Appreciate your opinion on this.
    Thanks.
    Fred

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like a nice set up. I think you be fine adding them in small batches. This will give the BB a better chance to catch up. Keep using Seachem Stability. I use FritzZyme 7 with good results. Add the batches with the lights off and keep them off until the following morning. If one is bullied or killed you’re going to have to figure out how to get them out. Good luck.

  • @danielmccoy1021
    @danielmccoy1021 5 років тому +1

    My most favorite bacteria addictive is hands down Turbo Start 700 by Fritz Aquatics it is absolutely amazing. I started my 150 gall tank with it and added 30 fish the same day and never had 1ppm of ammonia!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      That's amazing. I've always liked Fritz products. Next time I start up a tank I'm gonna check out Turbo Start, thanks.

  • @tamari6761
    @tamari6761 3 роки тому

    i just had the same problem

  • @thereneissance9350
    @thereneissance9350 3 роки тому

    Yes just set up a 20 gallon tank with tap water and an old filter- got my ph level and temp right for the fish I wanted- added 6 fish the same day and all died in about 15 minutes except for one- the beta. They started acting erratic and appeared to be trying to get out of the tank- poor fish

  • @todddiedrich9106
    @todddiedrich9106 5 років тому +1

    Hey Ben I thought something happed in one of you tanks you scared me with the title anyway nice explanation of nitrogen cycle. All the ways you said about adding bacteria to new tanks work well I’ve tried them all but you still need to check levels with testing they all have what I call soft cycle. Ammonia will increase slightly and so will nitrites with final nitrates. In most cases they where not high enough to be really bad in one case I did have to do small water changes for ammonia. I like using media from other tanks I have but not everyone has multiple tanks. Yes MTS is real 6 tanks and still going shhhh don’t tell the warden I mean the wife

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      "the warden" LOL! You're right, it's a bit delicate at the start and can still spike even after perfect test results. This is where products like Seachem Stability can come in (and the slow patient addition of fish).

  • @sgandhiraj
    @sgandhiraj 3 роки тому

    I had 3 gallon fish tank and had couple of guppies. I use filtered water and it was living good for a month. Then I bought 10 gallon fish tank. Added some nitrifying bacteria and waited for 24 hours. After 24 hours I added couple of my fish to 10 gallon tank and added some 6 new guppies into the 10 gallon tank. In 6 hours 4 guppies died. One of the male guppy is my old guppy which was living happily in my 3 gallon tank. I dont know why it so many fished died in 6 hours. Not sure the nitrifying bacteria that I bought from a pet store is the culprit

  • @chrispalmer9802
    @chrispalmer9802 5 років тому

    I feed NLS food to my cichlids. I used to feed them with the two fx4 filters running that create alot of surface agitation making the food sink alot faster. Now that I have started feeding them with the filter off I have noticed a considerable drop in my nitrate readings each week. Like half as much. I think the reason for this is the rotting uneaten food produces less ammonia than the food that has been eaten and processed into detritus. Thoughts??

    • @2keeperv
      @2keeperv 5 років тому +1

      Depends on how many fish you have. I have 2 fx6 filters running in my 150 and 30 or so fish and when I feed them they eat everything I put in.. So ya depends

    • @chrispalmer9802
      @chrispalmer9802 5 років тому +1

      @@2keeperv mine is a 125 with 22 fish and two fx4s. Feed only once a day. What I forgot to state was that it was gravel substrate and by turning off the filters it allows them to eat before the food becomes trapped in the gravel

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Interesting. My cichlids sift the substrate for every morsel and what they miss the pleco picks up. Still, it's not as visibly clean as the black sand I use in my 100 which gets all the detritus blown into the FX-6 intake. If that change works for you, keep doing it that way. Just don't forget to turn your filters back on (I leave my stand doors open to remind me that my sump pump is off for feeding time ... but I've walked away and come back an hour later ...). Thanks for watching.

  • @dustinstone2766
    @dustinstone2766 2 роки тому

    Sucks man. I switched to a new larger tank for my Oscars and my blood parrots, I used qtr of the water from the previous tank and used the same filter for the first day with quick start. It weird though, my cichlids and blue gouramis are fine and seem resilient, but my Oscars and blood parrots are at the bottom of the tank.

  • @fayebaker4285
    @fayebaker4285 Рік тому

    Please place in writing step by step to include what read on test strips

  • @pattitaylor6509
    @pattitaylor6509 3 роки тому

    Opp’s that’s what happened to mine this week

  • @ahmedtalib9255
    @ahmedtalib9255 2 роки тому

    Can anyone help its urgent i bought a 75gal tank filter etc for 1 week after 1 week and i bought 5 gold fish and 5 angel fish overnight they all are dying they all got super slow and one goldfish and 3 angel fish are already dead please help what should i do?

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  2 роки тому

      Did you watch the video? Your tank was probably not ready for fish. The video discusses what might have been the case, but there are other issues as well. Sorry this happened.

    • @ahmedtalib9255
      @ahmedtalib9255 2 роки тому

      @@BenOchart Thanks, Ben I guess it an ammonia spike

    • @ahmedtalib9255
      @ahmedtalib9255 2 роки тому

      @@BenOchart, yes, I saw the video and ammonia spike because of extra fish food some fish are dead, but some are still struggling. should I change 50% water

  • @davidh1904
    @davidh1904 5 років тому

    What happens if I have to move what should I do with my fish I’m a little nervous I’m I going to lose all this bacteria

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      davidh1904 How far away will you be traveling?

    • @davidh1904
      @davidh1904 5 років тому +1

      Not very far I live in San Diego just moving to another rental house man is it hard to find places that allow fish tanks I dream to have a 100 g tank when you tell land lords that they all give me a funny look anyways if u have any advice for me Ben I will listen since you are the King in my book your fish and tanks are what got me started into the wonderful world of cichlids

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому

      Thank you for the kind works. Moving your fish, especially in a nice climate like S.D. shouldn't be a problem. Keep some damp substrate in the tank that you're moving since lots of the BB lives in there. Hurry your filters over. If canisters, keep them filled with tank water and crack them open and drop air stones in while setting up the tank. Treat the new tank water before adding to new tank location to avoid killing the BB in the substrate. Try to temp match from the tap so you can then just net the fish from the bucket(s) and put them in the new set up. Let the filter run for a half hour or so before adding the fish and be sure to have a product like Seachem stability or Fritz Turbo start on hand. Keep the lights off so the fish can relax. Should be fine.

  • @robinrobledo22
    @robinrobledo22 4 роки тому +1

    Can dead fish be used as fertilizer in tank?

  • @OgDj2024
    @OgDj2024 4 роки тому

    👍🏾

  • @yellowfinendurance
    @yellowfinendurance 2 роки тому

    Ben I have zero ammonia and zero nitrite and my fish died within hours of putting them in the tank

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  2 роки тому

      Sorry to hear that. So many factors to consider. Temp, chlorine, disease, something added by the city, etc. Without seeing firsthand what happened, it's almost impossible to tell what's going on.

    • @yellowfinendurance
      @yellowfinendurance 2 роки тому

      @@BenOchart thanks, temp was 78, water I use prime and let sit out for atleast 48 hours to get rid chlorine. Starting to wonder if it’s the gravel or something. They certainly should live for more then 3 hours

  • @notandrewwYT
    @notandrewwYT 3 роки тому

    i don’t have any shrimp tho. 4 of my fish died today :(

  • @petercole1490
    @petercole1490 3 роки тому

    I am a long time hobbyist. I have set up two large tanks in the last
    four months - 220 gallon and standard 125 gallon. I cycled these tanks
    using Fritz Turbo Start and also used existing filter media and handfuls
    of gravel from an existing 125 gallon system. I added several small
    severums to both tanks. These fish have all survived the cycling
    process which I think took close to 9 weeks to complete, I use an API
    Test kit to measure Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate. In week 7, I started
    to add some baby oscars of similar size to severums. I also added a
    couple small pleco's and synodontis. All the fish looked healthy for a
    week, but the oscars began to die one by one in the next week, I was
    losing one a day. I did a 25% water change, used Prime to treat water
    and then replaced several of the oscars I lost with new ones (2-3 inch
    size). Thes seemed fine for first couple of days, but began to breath
    heavy and also died out in a matter of a couple of weeks. All of the
    other fish were doing fine, including the severums. I then tried again
    another 25-30% water change and the same thing is happening again. My
    API water tests show Zero Ammonia, and almost Zero Nitrite, the Nitrate
    levels are slightly elevated. I added water plants to see if that can
    stabilize the Nitrates more. I run a large sponge filter and two of the
    Aquaclear 110 hang on filters in each tank. I have an additional
    internal water jet in the 220 gallon which pushes / circulates the
    surface water. I am exasperated as I can't keep the oscars alive and
    now have lost more than 15 fish. The other fish including my syno
    decorus and angelicus, spiney pleco's, and gold and red shoulder severum
    appear to be all thriving?????

  • @Just2362
    @Just2362 4 роки тому

    I only added four fish to a 10gal tank and they all died over night. Man I'm bummed.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  4 роки тому

      Sounds like the tank was not fully cycled. Did you test the water before adding?

    • @Just2362
      @Just2362 4 роки тому

      @@BenOchart got myself a master test kit now. The person at the store gave me bad advice. I wish I saw your video before.

  • @stevenmills1820
    @stevenmills1820 5 років тому

    I’m going through all this at the moment :( how long will the fish start to look different n struggling?because my fish are still in the tank with ammonia in the water noticed the ammonia yesterday and I’m going to do water changes everyday now for a week til it goes how long shall I lay off the food for til I can start feeding again?i only feed once a day I have ammonia cuz iv started a new filter up my old filter died on me suddenly didn’t really have a choice want to save my fish please help thanks

    • @kevather123
      @kevather123 5 років тому +1

      Using a declorinator like seachem prime can help once doing your water changes . It won't get rid of the ammonia but it binds it harmless along with nitrite for 48 hours especially as your fish are gonna continue to produce waste. Sadly 48 hours isn't enough time to establish a new filter but using a beneficial bacteria additive like stability can help build up your filter quicker . Or as Ben states in this video if you know somebody with an established tank you can get used sponges to help your new filter. Hope your fish survive 👍

    • @stevenmills1820
      @stevenmills1820 5 років тому

      Kevin hope my fish survive to pal I have used sponges from a filter in my new filter only been running a week my new filter not long enough how long does it take for a filter to be matured?also how long shall I lay off the feeding for?thanks for your reply appreciated it 👍🏻

    • @kevather123
      @kevather123 5 років тому +1

      @@stevenmills1820 Food I'd keep to a minimum, fish can go a lot longer without food than people think . As for establishing a filter it's like saying how long is a piece of string . It really has no time setting, but you can help it along, I'd add some seachem stability daily , just to boost the process, when I cycled my tank this stuff certainly helped speed it up 👍

    • @stevenmills1820
      @stevenmills1820 5 років тому +1

      Kevin cheers thanks very much ok cheers bout feeding I’ll leave them for a while then just while I get rid of ammonia you been a big help cheers can I get it from most fish stores?im from the uk 🇬🇧 if all fails eBay but this time of year online be late gettin to me won’t it Xmas n everythin appreciate your help thank you. 👍🏻

    • @stevenmills1820
      @stevenmills1820 5 років тому

      Kevin were do I put this stuff in filter media?or in with my water?

  • @cichlidkingaquatics5988
    @cichlidkingaquatics5988 5 років тому +2

    Patience is so hard for a new fishkeeper to hear.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 років тому +1

      And veterans who see a dream fish and impulse buy then realize that they they have no QT, LOL, not me, other people ... LOL!

    • @cichlidkingaquatics5988
      @cichlidkingaquatics5988 5 років тому

      @@BenOchart I'm with you Ben. Lol

  • @shaun9107
    @shaun9107 5 років тому

    Red tail is the worst I have ever dealt with .
    Must be painful ......, IT IS !!!

  • @nickh8240
    @nickh8240 3 роки тому

    Could this happen within a 12 hour period of time? I just had a 175 gallon tank filled with pure water....did not give it time to cycle.....and no test strips.
    I introduced 11 fish at once but they died in less than 12 hours....is this the same reason you think?

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 роки тому

      Sounds like ammonia poisoning. Gotta test and go to zero ammonia and zero nitrite (different from nitrate) before adding fish.

  • @tonifowler7002
    @tonifowler7002 5 років тому

    Toni

  • @lukasporubovic7034
    @lukasporubovic7034 4 роки тому

    Well I did use bacteria but I didnt know about the fact that you have to feed that bacteria. RIP guppy.

  • @kristinchoinski8751
    @kristinchoinski8751 4 роки тому

    Why six canisters why not just go with a complete tank with an overflow and wet dry

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  4 роки тому

      Six canisters? This must be the video where I mention a friend that had that many canisters. I'd much prefer a sump over six canisters!

  • @redsev4484
    @redsev4484 5 років тому

    In the old days they just added pee for a while and cycled that way.

  • @tonifowler7002
    @tonifowler7002 5 років тому

    thank you need to no

  • @AquaPeet
    @AquaPeet 5 років тому +1

    Overfiltration is only bad for your wallet haha