Without a doubt a 2 loss teams make the playoffs and yea a 2 loss team can get hot and win it all. There is a lot of teams that lose early especially on the road then just get better and better every week
yea they can but it depends on the team. it won’t be a cinderella story 2loss team it’ll be a bama uga lsu thatlost and wins it all . not a underdog team
I like the 12 team playoff for the same reason a lot of other fans do. As a fan of a good, but not powerhouse program (Iowa), a national championship is a once in a lifetime (hopefully!) thing. But making a 12 team playoff? it's realistic to expect that once every 3-5 seasons, and who knows, maybe even win a game or two once we are in every decade. Totally understand the reasons against it, but as a Hawkeye fan I think its a good thing.
Games are played on the field not paper and I agree. Injuries are apart of the game and you never know who gets hot or lose an important player like FSU.
the old boise teams could have cinderella'd it up. they weren't going to have 2 losses but they could have gotten the auto qualifier , then gone on a run. they were good enough to pull that off. the old byu teams at the height of the lavel edwards era could have. possibly marshall during the pennington/leftwich/moss years.
College football has never had a two loss team win the title except for lsu in 2007. Hopefully I will never see that happened again. College football is supposed to be an elite teams with one loss or undefeated that’s always been the birth right of college football
In 2022 after conference championship weekend two 3 loss teams were 8th and 9th in CFP rankings. It could happen again and get a 3 loss team in the playoffs.
What were getting is a situation where a 1 loss georgia team and an undefeated Florida state team don't get left out of the playoff like last year. Which is only a good thing. In the 4 team playoff there was always at least 6 to 7 teams that you could reasonably say had a chance to win it all thats why the 4 team playoff was so bad. Pate argues that the 12 team will diminish the regular season games but the 4 team already did that, If florida state and Georgia could go undefeated in the regular season and still get left out..
I'm gonna pull a page for Josh's book here and say let's just wait and see. I'm thinking the playoff, coupled with the changes brought about by the transfer portal, has the potential to change predicted outcomes significantly. I think last year was just a small preview. The first round produced two close games that could have gone either way, but teams you didn't expect to win continued on. Texas would now be an SEC product, and Alabama decidedly was at the time. Maybe what happens is exactly what Josh says, Georgia also makes it in, and they prove why they were the best team last year. I have a feeling that we'll see more games like the SEC title. It was a pretty foregone conclusion that Georgia would win, Texas' victory over Alabama would be lessened, and the committee could stick a QB'less FSU team in without too much fuss. Alabama won though, and then they and the team they lost to that the committee pushed in solely because they beat Alabama, "The Team That Took Down Georgia", both lost in the first round of the 4 team playoff. Please I want everyone to tell me that's what they expected, and there wasn't a cadre of pundits saying that a 2 loss SEC team that somehow beat Georgia was guaranteed to roll over Michigan. The games were close, we of course were a possession away from having a Texas-Alabama final, but that's the beauty of a playoff where you can't just stick an entire conference in. Funny things happen when you let teams play the game on the field.
Last year, Mizzou started the season unranked and finished in the top 10. They would have made the 12 team playoffs if it was there last year. Unlikely but they COULD have won the national championship. That would’ve been a Cinderella story no doubt.
Auburn was the first two loss team to be put in the CFP ranking top 4 in 2017 over an undefeated Wisconsin team and one loss Oklahoma team. I'll never forget that because the strength of scheduled mattered in that moment. Then Auburn got a 3rd loss and it was history. A two loss team will get in the playoffs. The question is now, Will a three loss team get in?
Actually, the question is, "Will a four loss team get in." A three loss team is inevitable: In 2023, the highest ranked 3-loss team was LSU at #13. Both Utah and Kansas St had 3 losses in 2022, and were ranked #8 and #9 respectively, which easily would have gotten them in in the current system.
“No rational person thinks Texas will loose 2 regular season games and then win the national championship” either Josh is somehow naive enough to believe this despite his position or Vegas paid him to say this. Come on Josh
Well for starters there aren't going to be twelve 1 loss teams. So multiple 2 loss teams. With the automatic qualifier conf champ bids, you could honestly have a 4 or 5 loss team. If you're talking about at-large bids, no more than 2 losses.
12 teams being undefeated or only have 1 loss is unlikely, but very possible. This is especially true with how big these conferences are. There are scenarios where the top 3-4 teams in a conference all have 0-1 losses. Like I said, unlikely, but still possible.
Having no 2-loss teams in the playoff is definitely possible. Here's how. If Ohio St goes undefeated in regular conference play, Oregon, Penn St, and Iowa only lose to Ohio St, and Ohio St loses in the BIG10 Championship, this guarantees 4 BIG10 teams only having 1 loss at the end of conference championship week. Similarly, If Georigia goes undefeated in regular conference play, Alabama, Texas, and Ole Miss only lose to Georgia, Texas A&M only loses to Texas, and Georgia loses the SEC championship game, then we would have 5 teams in the SEC having 1 loss at the end of conference championship week. This assumes all the teams above wins their out-of-conference games. If at least the BIG12, ACC, and the G5 champs all have less than 2 losses, there's exactly 12 teams that will all have good enough records to make the playoffs. If things happen in the BIG12 and the ACC similar to the BIG10 and SEC and the G5 champ has less than 2 losses, then we will have more than 12 teams with less than 2 losses that will all have good enough records to make the playoffs.
here was my original prediction SEC: Georgia (13-0) B1G Ohio State (13-0) Big-12: Oklahoma State (10-3) ACC: Florida State (10-3) At Large: Oregon (11-2) At Large: Ole Miss (11-1) At Large: Missouri (11-1) At Large: Texas (10-2) At Large Notre Dame (11-1) At Large: UCF (10-2) At Large: Penn State (9-3) G5: Liberty (13-0)
2 loss texas misses playoff. Best win would be rebuilding michigan then who? Arkansas? 3 loss OU would get in over them, playing 6 in top 15 and a head to head win.
2 loss texas misses the playoff1 they wont have a top 10 win, their schedule is weak. Outside a rebuilding michigan their best win will be who? Arkansas?
Shit I’ve seen 3 loss teams make the playoffs in CF 25. Obviously that’s a game, but still…. How Iowas win total is only 8 games I’ll never know, but I do know I’m betting the farm on it 😂😂😂
A 3 loss team getting in would take alot of help. Perfect storm could easily be they lose 2 out of conference games (say Texas for example) they lose to michigan and Utsa upsets em in a heart breaker. They then run the table in conference play make the sec title game and lose to uga in a rematch in Atlanta. That 3 loss texas team would be hard to keep out. But they would need help wouldn't be a lock imo. Thoughts?
@Jus-Too-Smoove it could be anyone from a power conference really. If any power 4 team loses all there nonconference games (sec has 4 so even a 4 loss team could make it technically) if they win all their conference games and win the conference they're in automatically. Clemson could lose to uga citadel and I believe app state is their non con go undefeated in the acc win the acc and get a first round bye with a loss to citadel on their resume. Now are these things likely 🤣 hell no. But possible for sure given the autobids for conference champions
Possibly but long term I think they’ll show bias towards money. Whichever team has a larger tv audience and can sell out stadiums will get the nod. Money always talks at the end of the day.
@@buddhastl7120 still I don't think another team that don't have a chance against the teams who actually deserve to be in the playoffs should make it we don't wanna watch a team that made it there by playing high-school teams get in just to be demolished like tcu did that one year and ruin the chance for a good team to give someone a run for their money in the playoffs
Georgia is not going undefeated. Last time we saw a road schedule this difficult for a contender was 2022 Bama, the largest betting favorite ever. They were clearly the 3rd best team in the country (behind UGA and OSU) and they went 10-2. If any team goes undefeated out of the P4 its Utah or Oregon
I think y’all have an incredible roster full of talent this season, but if you win everything and have a perfect season on the way to a National Championship then you have an even more amazing team than I give you credit for. RTR
@@skipgumphrey9579 tbh it is our expectation. i'm confident going into oregon, confident with penn state, laughably unconcerned with michigan. if there's no nati at the end of the year, it was a total failure of a season. i'd even say if there's a loss going into the playoffs it was an underperforming year. not to take away from oregon at all and their home crowd, it's just the expectation in columbus.
I think it’ll be Oregon. If Notre Dame goes into Kyle Field and wins comfortably that’s a possibility but they can only peak at seed 5. If a top 4 seed finishes 13-0 it’ll be Oregon or OSU but I’m buying into Oregon hype
Expanding the playoffs to 12 teams will only complicate matters. People thought it was bad before are in for a surprise. Undefeated or 1 loss smaller schools will get in or get snubbed by power 5 teams with 2 losses. I don’t see this playoff format being settled until they at least go to 24 teams. Make the schedule 9 games. All conference maybe 1 rivalry game non-conference. Good schools make the extra money playing in more bowl games. Similar to basketball but longer breaks. Nothing else will suffice as technically any top 24 team is capable of an upset or going on a run.
Without a doubt a 2 loss teams make the playoffs and yea a 2 loss team can get hot and win it all. There is a lot of teams that lose early especially on the road then just get better and better every week
yea they can but it depends on the team. it won’t be a cinderella story 2loss team it’ll be a bama uga lsu thatlost and wins it all . not a underdog team
I like the 12 team playoff for the same reason a lot of other fans do. As a fan of a good, but not powerhouse program (Iowa), a national championship is a once in a lifetime (hopefully!) thing. But making a 12 team playoff? it's realistic to expect that once every 3-5 seasons, and who knows, maybe even win a game or two once we are in every decade.
Totally understand the reasons against it, but as a Hawkeye fan I think its a good thing.
Games are played on the field not paper and I agree. Injuries are apart of the game and you never know who gets hot or lose an important player like FSU.
With this format it's possible to put a FOUR loss Big 12 champ in the playoff.
There were probably a decent amount of 2-loss teams that could have won it all and just never got the shot to do it.
LSU= past 2 loss National Champs
LSU was undefeated
Oh nvm just got to that part of the vid lol
the old boise teams could have cinderella'd it up. they weren't going to have 2 losses but they could have gotten the auto qualifier , then gone on a run. they were good enough to pull that off. the old byu teams at the height of the lavel edwards era could have. possibly marshall during the pennington/leftwich/moss years.
Boise would have gotten left’d out for a 3 loss Michigan team 😂 but Boise would have won 1 year I believe.
College football has never had a two loss team win the title except for lsu in 2007. Hopefully I will never see that happened again. College football is supposed to be an elite teams with one loss or undefeated that’s always been the birth right of college football
In 2022 after conference championship weekend two 3 loss teams were 8th and 9th in CFP rankings. It could happen again and get a 3 loss team in the playoffs.
What were getting is a situation where a 1 loss georgia team and an undefeated Florida state team don't get left out of the playoff like last year. Which is only a good thing. In the 4 team playoff there was always at least 6 to 7 teams that you could reasonably say had a chance to win it all thats why the 4 team playoff was so bad. Pate argues that the 12 team will diminish the regular season games but the 4 team already did that, If florida state and Georgia could go undefeated in the regular season and still get left out..
I just went 10-2 with Texas in 2025, coming off a natty and beat the #1 ranked team that year, didn’t make the playoffs LOL sec had four teams go 10-2
I'm gonna pull a page for Josh's book here and say let's just wait and see. I'm thinking the playoff, coupled with the changes brought about by the transfer portal, has the potential to change predicted outcomes significantly.
I think last year was just a small preview. The first round produced two close games that could have gone either way, but teams you didn't expect to win continued on. Texas would now be an SEC product, and Alabama decidedly was at the time. Maybe what happens is exactly what Josh says, Georgia also makes it in, and they prove why they were the best team last year. I have a feeling that we'll see more games like the SEC title. It was a pretty foregone conclusion that Georgia would win, Texas' victory over Alabama would be lessened, and the committee could stick a QB'less FSU team in without too much fuss. Alabama won though, and then they and the team they lost to that the committee pushed in solely because they beat Alabama, "The Team That Took Down Georgia", both lost in the first round of the 4 team playoff. Please I want everyone to tell me that's what they expected, and there wasn't a cadre of pundits saying that a 2 loss SEC team that somehow beat Georgia was guaranteed to roll over Michigan.
The games were close, we of course were a possession away from having a Texas-Alabama final, but that's the beauty of a playoff where you can't just stick an entire conference in. Funny things happen when you let teams play the game on the field.
Last year, Mizzou started the season unranked and finished in the top 10. They would have made the 12 team playoffs if it was there last year. Unlikely but they COULD have won the national championship. That would’ve been a Cinderella story no doubt.
“I was a child once” and “cartoon mode” 😂
Ikr😂😂😂😂😂
Auburn was the first two loss team to be put in the CFP ranking top 4 in 2017 over an undefeated Wisconsin team and one loss Oklahoma team. I'll never forget that because the strength of scheduled mattered in that moment. Then Auburn got a 3rd loss and it was history. A two loss team will get in the playoffs. The question is now, Will a three loss team get in?
Actually, the question is, "Will a four loss team get in." A three loss team is inevitable: In 2023, the highest ranked 3-loss team was LSU at #13. Both Utah and Kansas St had 3 losses in 2022, and were ranked #8 and #9 respectively, which easily would have gotten them in in the current system.
“No rational person thinks Texas will loose 2 regular season games and then win the national championship” either Josh is somehow naive enough to believe this despite his position or Vegas paid him to say this. Come on Josh
There will be 2 4 loss auto bids
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Well for starters there aren't going to be twelve 1 loss teams. So multiple 2 loss teams. With the automatic qualifier conf champ bids, you could honestly have a 4 or 5 loss team. If you're talking about at-large bids, no more than 2 losses.
12 teams being undefeated or only have 1 loss is unlikely, but very possible. This is especially true with how big these conferences are. There are scenarios where the top 3-4 teams in a conference all have 0-1 losses.
Like I said, unlikely, but still possible.
Having no 2-loss teams in the playoff is definitely possible. Here's how.
If Ohio St goes undefeated in regular conference play, Oregon, Penn St, and Iowa only lose to Ohio St, and Ohio St loses in the BIG10 Championship, this guarantees 4 BIG10 teams only having 1 loss at the end of conference championship week.
Similarly, If Georigia goes undefeated in regular conference play, Alabama, Texas, and Ole Miss only lose to Georgia, Texas A&M only loses to Texas, and Georgia loses the SEC championship game, then we would have 5 teams in the SEC having 1 loss at the end of conference championship week. This assumes all the teams above wins their out-of-conference games.
If at least the BIG12, ACC, and the G5 champs all have less than 2 losses, there's exactly 12 teams that will all have good enough records to make the playoffs. If things happen in the BIG12 and the ACC similar to the BIG10 and SEC and the G5 champ has less than 2 losses, then we will have more than 12 teams with less than 2 losses that will all have good enough records to make the playoffs.
@greenwave819 what poll are you using? I just want to make sure we're both looking at the same poll before I make another reply.
here was my original prediction
SEC: Georgia (13-0)
B1G Ohio State (13-0)
Big-12: Oklahoma State (10-3)
ACC: Florida State (10-3)
At Large: Oregon (11-2)
At Large: Ole Miss (11-1)
At Large: Missouri (11-1)
At Large: Texas (10-2)
At Large Notre Dame (11-1)
At Large: UCF (10-2)
At Large: Penn State (9-3)
G5: Liberty (13-0)
i like it but i don’t think UGA will go undefeated
2 loss texas misses playoff. Best win would be rebuilding michigan then who? Arkansas? 3 loss OU would get in over them, playing 6 in top 15 and a head to head win.
Georgia is top 2 team in the nation but their schedule is very difficult to run the table
@@dylandean5043unless Texas beat Oklahoma
You only have 4 sec teams in there tho the NCAA is not gonna like that 😂😂😂
When it all??? Sad.
What is the lowest ranked team going into the future playoffs that would have a legit shot?
Probably the best non P4 conference championship winner. A team like Tulane, Memphis, UTSA, Boise st, App state
Do people sleep on Oklahoma?
There’s nothing to sleep on they are average
@@PeytonManningsMom Yeah, that “average” team beat your ass.
3 loss Gumps out??
2 loss texas misses the playoff1 they wont have a top 10 win, their schedule is weak. Outside a rebuilding michigan their best win will be who? Arkansas?
Shit I’ve seen 3 loss teams make the playoffs in CF 25. Obviously that’s a game, but still…. How Iowas win total is only 8 games I’ll never know, but I do know I’m betting the farm on it 😂😂😂
A 3 loss team getting in would take alot of help. Perfect storm could easily be they lose 2 out of conference games (say Texas for example) they lose to michigan and Utsa upsets em in a heart breaker. They then run the table in conference play make the sec title game and lose to uga in a rematch in Atlanta. That 3 loss texas team would be hard to keep out. But they would need help wouldn't be a lock imo.
Thoughts?
@@jeffreyprice9790 That is a very good example. It’s only going to be a SEC team or possibly a B1G team
@Jus-Too-Smoove it could be anyone from a power conference really. If any power 4 team loses all there nonconference games (sec has 4 so even a 4 loss team could make it technically) if they win all their conference games and win the conference they're in automatically.
Clemson could lose to uga citadel and I believe app state is their non con go undefeated in the acc win the acc and get a first round bye with a loss to citadel on their resume.
Now are these things likely 🤣 hell no. But possible for sure given the autobids for conference champions
undefeated in regulation lol
8-4 ole miss in over 10-2 fsu hahahahaha
What a stupid question
You really think they would let a crap team like liberty make the playoff over a 2 or 3 loss tennessee
Possibly but long term I think they’ll show bias towards money. Whichever team has a larger tv audience and can sell out stadiums will get the nod. Money always talks at the end of the day.
They don’t have a choice
@@buddhastl7120 still I don't think another team that don't have a chance against the teams who actually deserve to be in the playoffs should make it we don't wanna watch a team that made it there by playing high-school teams get in just to be demolished like tcu did that one year and ruin the chance for a good team to give someone a run for their money in the playoffs
Tennessee likely won’t have 3 losses ;)
@michaelpalmer8669 hopefully but we do have a pretty hard schedule and alot of young kids
Having a two/three/even four loss team winning the national title in college football just makes college football less enjoyable to watch
Let a 3 loss SEC team in
Georgia is not going undefeated. Last time we saw a road schedule this difficult for a contender was 2022 Bama, the largest betting favorite ever. They were clearly the 3rd best team in the country (behind UGA and OSU) and they went 10-2. If any team goes undefeated out of the P4 its Utah or Oregon
The only undefeated team this season will be Ohio St.
We’ll see about that after their visit to Autzen.
I think y’all have an incredible roster full of talent this season, but if you win everything and have a perfect season on the way to a National Championship then you have an even more amazing team than I give you credit for.
RTR
@@skipgumphrey9579 tbh it is our expectation. i'm confident going into oregon, confident with penn state, laughably unconcerned with michigan. if there's no nati at the end of the year, it was a total failure of a season. i'd even say if there's a loss going into the playoffs it was an underperforming year. not to take away from oregon at all and their home crowd, it's just the expectation in columbus.
I think it’ll be Oregon. If Notre Dame goes into Kyle Field and wins comfortably that’s a possibility but they can only peak at seed 5. If a top 4 seed finishes 13-0 it’ll be Oregon or OSU but I’m buying into Oregon hype
Nope, they will lose to my Nittany Lions 🦁 either in Happy Valley or in the big ten championship game!!! WE ARE
Expanding the playoffs to 12 teams will only complicate matters. People thought it was bad before are in for a surprise. Undefeated or 1 loss smaller schools will get in or get snubbed by power 5 teams with 2 losses.
I don’t see this playoff format being settled until they at least go to 24 teams. Make the schedule 9 games. All conference maybe 1 rivalry game non-conference. Good schools make the extra money playing in more bowl games. Similar to basketball but longer breaks. Nothing else will suffice as technically any top 24 team is capable of an upset or going on a run.
10 games and I agree