How and Why To Script a Comic (Even When you Hate it)
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- Let me make my case for writing a script first.
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“If your script feels stifling, stop writing stifling scripts” damn these videos are genius they help me so much 🔥🔥🔥
I like to look at works that have a pace i like. I like snappy action scenes and little dialogue. Info dumps really dont belong in a comic format
What does stifling mean??? I'm dumb
@@khunbabywaifu7086 Stifling sort of just means it stops the flow of what is going on. Whether that be the actual pace of the comic, or pushes the writer away from wanting to continue the script, it's possible to creep in many different ways. Have a great day and I hope this helps :p
Dude they where saying that when i read this its scary
@@xwaffleconex2909 OMG me too
"it doesn't even have to have pages and panels" that's so reassuring omg!
“I can’t spell, I can’t grammar”
*Grammar 100*
XD
When I did comics in high school for fun, all I needed was one paragraph. Most of the time, there was no script at all. I would literally freestyle an entire 22-page comic book over the course of a few weeks. Now, I find myself writing hundreds of drafts for the same scene over and over, and I think it's all terrible. I don't even want to waste my paper on thumbnails until I get the story idea just right. Watching this video made me think about how I got like this. It used to be about fun, not perfection. What happened to me?
I don't have answers. But I thought it criminal you have no replies.
When I feel unhappy and stagnant. I shake the etch-a-sketch. Maybe do a little something more loosey goosy, try a new thing, etc. Here's an idea if you struggle, make a comic based on a list of prompts. Maybe each page is the prompt, maybe each chapter, maybe each panel, however the as long as the prompts are used.
maybe you’re the special kind of person who doesn’t need scripts or thumbnails :) at the very least, drawing and writing, even if it’s crappy, is better than no drawing or writing at all
I guess combining scripts and thumbnails would be called "storyboarding"
CutieMoli I’m pretty sure that has to do with animation
@@arielnetherton8342 no, you can do this with any type of story telling. It can be films, novels, comics... if you want a visual representation of your story, you make a storyboard.
@@CutieMoli ooooooooooh that's cool
@@CutieMoli thumbnails are visual representation. its kinda hard to come up with look and plot alltogether
@@kaij1n60 it's what storyboarders are for.
Personally for me scripting is just hard in general. Like ACTUALLY writing in general is hard for me. I often stare for hours at the blank document and then get frustrated with myself because I'm wasting my own damn time just... Staring at it... but the words just aren't happening. I DO use a script though. I'm not the most confident writer (I don't even consider my self a writer, rather a storyteller) so I have a few friends who ARE writers read them first because it's A LOT easier ton change things in the script than it is to reorganize pages in the thumbnailed version.
For me what I find helpful is to write a brief outline of your story then "Zoom in" on a chapter, then "Zoom in" onto a scene and to that one at a time that way.
I often begin with ideas or scenes. I then do characters [needs versus desires], each has a secret etc.... The key to finishing is just having an idea for each scene: notes and move on if you can't figure out exactly how you want the scene. Once the story is complete and finished, go back and tweak the scenes to flow. First drafts are not finished work. Relax and just have fun; complete the story. It can even be "bad", but once the bones are down then you can polish. Good is the enemy of perfect, but perfect is the enemy of writing.
As a kid I used to play with toys and had these huge epics and character moments. Had trouble writing for many years. So I went with what works. I'm a grown ass adult playing with toys to aid with my writing.
I find it easy to make a story and plot but then actually giving the characters action is so hard like the scripts and dialogue
Welp. I literally have no excuse to not start my webcomic now😅
Ohhh same bro
How’s that going? Just curious :)
@@inactivechannel6365 You can buy books
kayleecraft66 it’s better to learn from experience just get a simple image and draw it then gradually try to draw from memory in your own style and stuff
@@inactivechannel6365 i use a mix of horrible sloppy inconsistent drawings that look like a 5 year old drew for unimportant or scenes inbetween major events and every now and then i put in a really nice drawing that may take me hours to draw but looks really good for major or scenes that i want to have dramatic effect
I love SCRIPTS.... Im on chapter 119 and haven't even drawn my first chapter
Maybe, IDK, start?
that's actually a great thing you do, that's the best way to avoid plot holes and choices you would regret later
@pinkpaprikaa I know that comment probably wasn't too serious, but writing a novel is a completely different task than writing a script, and requires a lot more skillsets. Generally I advice not attempting novels if you truly want to make a webtoon deep down and are not too passionate about novels.
I don’t get how to script I’m an illustrator 😡😠😤
a cool challenge would be giving different artist the same script and see what they come up with
This is encouraging, thanks man! I tend to write a little more than a bullet point list for my script so far but each time my script gets more and more sophisticated so I'm kind of baby stepping it.
Hello Marsh !
y'all been on fire with these comic videos, exactly what I need to hear all the time!! I finally bit the bullet and started moving with my comic even though I put it off for almost a year.
ive gotten so used to writing scrips with thumbnails before even starting the finished pages, what i do is i write the whole story in thumbnails and then i thumbnail each page a second time changing things before working on a finished page. scripting with thumbnails helps me because it helps me visualize that action.
O... oh...
You write scripts panel by panel...
I'm so freaking stupid, I've been writing them like movie scripts, by scene and task, not by panel! That's genius!
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Takagi and mashiro already done that
Just a few moments ago I was watching your video
"Comic scripts: How Much Should I Write?" and after watching that video I went looking for one on how to write scripts and now you upload this! :'O
This channel is wonderful, you really do not know what helps me all this < 3
Greetings from Argentina!
[Sorry for my bad english, haha ^^"]
Oie yo también soy de Argentina :D
@@hoeplessatlantis1198 that's embarrassing..do you want China to win?
I was literally just now looking for info on how to make comic scripts. This is just perfect timing
I think my problem is that i hate myself lmao. I always come up with ideas and concepts and then the idea of fleshing it out and writing scripts and dialogs makes me cringe for some reason. and i think that reason is just self hatred...
Same, I've had ideas for a Rudolph comic for like 2 years now and I've only gotten around to making 1 page without a script that was terrible lol. I just think about it and get excited and then remember I need to make a script and I just deflate instantly
LynxxArt same here. Tho recently I’ve come up with some ideas that I’m pretty excited about and the script part doesn’t make me uncomfortable. But some unwanted philosophy from me lmao, the longer you spend thinking about it and world building the better your idea will be! I believe in you, we shall put aside our self hatred together my friend. Good luck btw!
@@Aj01110 Thanks, good luck to you too!
You can think like this - there is always a person that would like your story telling. If someone doesn't like it, it's only because it's not really for them. After all you can change anything, that's the writing process.
embrace the cringe and just go with it? You might regret not doing it
I can’t fathom starting my graphic novel project without a script. 😨 I’ve spent YEARS on world-building, lore, developing the themes and philosophies which underpin the story... if I went in without a script that would all be for naught as major themes wind up forgotten or lack adequate foreshadowing and so-on. I doubt I’ll start drawing at ALL until the scripts for at least the first arc and parts of the second are written and edited. And then I’d probably sit on them for a while so I could come back with fresh eyes and edit again.
That said, I’m really approaching my project as a writer would a novel, and I’m the kind of writer who tends to plan pretty heavily. My world and lore are huge and would become REALLY unwieldy if I just flew in blind. It being a graphic novel makes that anxiety of an early oversight SO much worse because it’s so much more difficult and time-consuming to go back and change.
👀deadass sounds intersting have you finished your book!
@@M1LKBO1- Thank you! I’m not even close to starting the big one, but I’ve started a side-project set in the same universe so I can practice actually putting together a comic. It’s called Blue Star Rebellion, you can find it on Tapas and WEBTOON!
Will the characters from this smaller project meet the ones in your big project????
Ur story is actually really cool 😁😁😁😁😁
Cut out the fluff.. this is a visual medium.. if you want to write a novel then write a novel. But 5 complete drafts of your comicbook script should fit within a single notebook. And if you've only written a single draft then you got miles and miles to go..remember what I said, cut the fluff and don't hold your readers hand. Don't weigh yourself down with "lore and backstory", there is a better more visual way to present this.
I’ve been seeing however, that when I do a script I tend to forget the comic aspect. I will still do a script but definitely it will change in the thumbnails for the simple reason that I get over the top when writing.
It’s like saying that sooo many things happened in the script and it’s indeed interesting according to beta readers.... for a novel where what happens in a paragraph you take 50 panels to make XD Still I like scripts but I no longer make it as the final form before thumbnails, rather I do thumbnails, then script, then thumbnails
But this is obviously because I’m both the artist and story creator of my comic, I’ve never felt 100% like only a writer even If I have made projects entirely about writing ^^
"Some find it creatively stifling, some of you find it tedious..."
Some of us have to finish a comic in 10 days because theyre stupid and make difficult promises to their horrifyingly terrifying English teachers and desperately need help.
Bro, I once signed myself up to draw all the organs and bones in the human body for my science teacher, not as bad but in the same area
@@ivymoody4238 Woah dude what did you get yourself in to
@@gabrxael idk bro, I missed a bunch of organs, and other things. it never even got used
Not long ago in class we told our History teacher what we were gonna study after highschool and I said I was gonna make comics
She asked me to make a comic about a History topic. I did, and next week I showed it to her
...No. Turns out it had to be about _several_ History topics. It was at that moment that my motivation got Thanos'd, and I still haven't gotten around to making it
@T P what were you thinking? You know how long it takes to create a single comicbook solo? Even a professional publisher with a whole team of artists and writers can take them months. Hopefully you didn't promise a full length one and you got away with just making a 10 page minicomic or an ashcan.
Been writing my script for 3 years now :'D
Wow, I somehow didn’t realize how closely a comic script and movie script can align... this video was really helpful, thank you!
I've actually recently completed my script and am in the thumbnail process. These videos have been a big help so far in not just the creation process, but in keeping motivated. So thanks!
Omygoodness this was actually amazingly helpful in many, many ways thank you so so so much!!!! NOW I CAN FINALLY START OUT MY COMIC >:D
Lol I just finished the script for chapter 3 of my comic! I didn't write a script for the other 2 chapters, but I really like how it turned out so I'm probably going to write a script from now on.
good luck on ur comic 😀
this is motivational! thank you!
This kind of thing is legit helpful to me. Thanks for the informative kick in the butt
Thank you much for this helpful insightful video!!
Thank you! You're really helping me big time
These videos are perfect for my co-author and I. Thanks for this! We can finally really get started!
You really made this tutorial fun&exciting!!!
i know this is an old video, but i just found yall. thank you for changing the way i think about scripting! i am a writer/artist, but wrote my story in traditional paragraph format, cuz ideas flowed faster that way. or i would just thumbnail/dialogue at the same time since i am the writer/artist. i will give this another shot with this frame of mind in the future!
thank you for this. ive been struggling on writing my script, and this just helped me so much. i realize im allowed to write it however i want ^-^
Thank you for encouraging me to feel free of how I should write my comic script, you are amazing.👍
i've learned the best thing for me is to plan with the thumbnail. so i like putting the script/dialogue with the thumbnails so i can plan where the words go, thinking on what people are saying, ect. while others like writing it on a word doc.
its whatever works for you and your creative flow
Aaaaahhh!! Love you guys and this video!!!^________^ I have started several comic scripts and I enjoy it!!^_^ I’ve been finding some fun notebooks for each of my stories!!^_____^ Thanks, Bones-sensei!!^__^ Well said, Bonesy…^____________^
“I can’t grammar” huh I didn’t notice BY THE WAY U SAID THAT abhsjshbsbs
Thank you so much for this video ❤️
Thank you so much for the video. I'm just getting started in my webcomic journey and this was very useful. I actually love creating scripts :)
Thank you so much for this. I'm just getting started, and I'm actually moving from novel format! So scripts are probably gonna be okay, but I didn't know if there were any secrets. Now I see it can however makes me happy!!
My scripts are very rough and hand written. But I can concur that they are very helpful as a starting point and make thumbnails easy. Thank you for confirming that I am in the right direction lol Always second guessing myself! ... Subscribed.
I seriously thought I was the ONLY one who writes his own scripts for tutorials lol. This is awesome. I'm currently on page 8 of my comic book that I'm creating. The script is so detailed like a movie. I had NO idea I could simplify it like this. Thank you so so so so much. You've got yourself another subscriber.
I love your videos they are awesome!
I don't know clip studio paint, but some programs that are not even focused on comics have functions that allow one to make an "automatically clean" guttering, instead of having to erase these intersections. In Krita you'd just draw the guttering flat, and then set the layer style to have an "outline," and done, the standard inner outlines are there, with nothing to clean. With a vectorial layer one can even make it so that the panels can be somewhat expanded or shrinked just by dragging and dropping its borders, or inclining or however one wants to style them.
Okay.....this actually helps me a lot, I've been wanting to script but it seems so overwhelming, but any example I find is super detailed. Which seems like more work than I currently feel like I can do.
Thank you!
I love writing, just as much as I love drawing, but the first time I tried to write a comic I went in with just the ideas in my head. I found that it wouldnt translate well in drawing, so now I am trying again with scripts first
Thank you so much you help me alot
I personally am working on a comic.
First I write the main story (how the story starts, what is the rising action, climax and falling action. Then the ending.)
Secondly, I write the synopsis would be, I just extend it more and more so that I can keep on track what I want.
Finally, I'm working on the script per episode because the dialogue will show you how the scene is portrayed, idk if you seen only scripts and then your imagination just plays around with the scene.
Writing a script-sh for my first Graphic Novel and I hate the process. This helps. Thanks. 🙏
really helpfull!
Thank you for this! I am a beginner at comics and it is really stressful to make sure my first comic is a good one. I don't really have any editor sadly or experienced people to ask help for except for going to art servers and discord though I am really afraid of the te comic getting claimed or get ruined endings.
THAAAANK YOU MY LORD
thanks to this video I figured out how I want to script out my comic. Now I can finally work on my comic :)
Thanks bones
I’ll start scripting, I was debating if I should or not but I will now
Havent watched yet but i love it
I never knew people hated script writing. Right now I'm writing a story for a graphic novel that Ive been developing for years and I'm finally taking it seriously.
I'm currently writing out the "outline" that has all the details and general things that I want to happen in my story in order.
I only plan to write the "script" with dialogue and such when I get to the drawing part of it. Sometimes it's dry or even a little cringe but I love the idea of writing dialogue for my characters cause I get to come up with what they'll sound like and how they interact with each other. I obviously need more experience but I won't know until I try.
A trick for everyone who is feeling stuck when writing about different characters, or your story in general. Think about how you would describe your story to a friend to make them understand what you are talking about. Imagine you're a person who doesn't know anything from your story and someone explains to you, how would you start? What key points would you tell someone in order to not bore/overload them with info, but neither forgetting important things.
I think is more fun this way :)
I personally love scriptwriting. I usually write an outline, draft and then a script, before I even start drawing. scripts really help the story to flow coherently. good to find a workflow that works for you.
This helps me so much because with comics I feel I am a bit too much of a perfectionist so it’s nice to be told I don’t have to make it perfect! I don’t hate scrips I’m Neutral to them but I do feel I find thumbnails more freeing but I have decided that ya even when I make scrips if it Dose not work in the thumb-nailing process I will edit my script so I’m not feeling as stuck to keep strongly to my script
Planning out panels and drawing them is the most consuming process
0:45 I can’t do scripts for things like videos, but for comics I always outline each scene and write the dialogue exactly how I want it. That way I don’t have to remember the dialogue in my head when I start thumbnailomg and doing the pages
Oh my God, I love writing my scripts.
Useful, I always wrote scripts for my comics. I don't know why people hate them. It's actually the best thing ever
I love you and this video
Scripts will save a lot of time. especially the unwanted layouts, even in rough or sketch phase
I love doing scripts. I like to first write the story in sinple sentences and then add dialoge and small details. And then I change a lot of stuff while maiking the pages.
Around 6:00 you should at least have an areal view of the area so you can write how the action takes place in sense of space
It can be really challenging when submissions ask for a script; it is both easier and more difficult when they have a format specified. On one hand, you don't need to worry over style but on the other hand, it locks you into putting your ideas in that one format.
Omg this helps so much. I'm a idiot. I'm also a schizophrenic so organized thought is really hard so this was really helpful. Scripts don't have to be detailed...
My brain has expanded infinitely. I always tried to do the thumbnails and script at the same time.
So I make scripts solely because I have an editor because I no speel the goods :p. I have a story outline all written out but none of that goes into my scripts ie i don't describe settings n what not, I have a background in animation and I am super visual. like for example, I don't think in monologs or words but pictures and movies esk.(its weird I know but it's my brine ) so for me write my scripts in the storybording\ thumbnailing process then transfer it into a script word document after. it also makes it faster for me as well. I normally get 10-21 pages done of my comic in a week this way. and I'm not saying you are wrong in any way I solely agree its whatever works for you. I just thought id throw my hat in this ring and give my perspective.
i agree, scripting is very useful and easy
I mean yeah the story skeleton is hard but, I kinda find them fun, like a collage all I do is write down the main stuff that happens cut it up and see where it fits best it can be fun 🤷🏻♀️ a lot of my other ideas come from doing that and it quickly turns into something I can work with
Hello can I get some feed back? I have 7 story ideas I wrote back in highschool and want to make them into web comics (the stories will be revamped while working on the scripts.) However I have no artistic skill. I don't want a partner because that's just not my style so I have to learn to draw. Should take 4 years to learn to draw first then do my comics or start now? If I start now I think they be way to bad so I want to ask I should learn to draw first. Any advice be appreciated
While I do agree with your point that learning how to draw first would be highly recommended and it's also better in the long run if you're looking to publish those stories (bec better drawings = better quality), 4 years is kind of a short time to develop the skillset you need for drawing comics. But then again, if you're consistent and disciplined then you could probably be ready to pump out comics within 4 years. Bottom line is, giving yourself a time limit that's a bit unrealistic could pressure you unnecesarily and burn you out. In my experience, it's better to just enjoy the process. You'll retain more info that way. Also, please start with real-life anatomy, not stylized stuff like animes or cartoons. I did the opposite and now i'm trying to kind of rewind the process, kind of like the "I will face god and walk backwards into hell" meme..
@@briannegabriellesanjuan4113 I haven't drawn from life yet but I gave drawn from scenes of watership down I think they are ok not great. One of my stories is about rabbits inspired by that movie ( all my stories are different just one is about animals) I have drawn by referencing (no tracing) but I can't draw the rabbits without looking at the reference very frustrating. Also I wish I would have started drawing back in 2012 so I would have the skill but I kept putting myself down saying I sucked or couldn't do it. So I just thought and wrote out stories instead. Very tedious now but I have to do it because just from doing those rabbit drawings I love it.
@@Spooky799kil almost every video of theirs (ursula and bones) tells us to just do it and really, just do it man. By "it" I mean draw and practice and work your skill level up until you've got enough info stored in your brain and your hand (bec muscle memory) that you don't really need to look at references every single time you have to draw. But you clearly love drawing so I think soon enough you'll be making awesome illustrations ^v^ just keep going at it!!
How do you guys find an artist to work with? Do you self-publish your comic books and do you draft up a contract with the artist? I'm just curious. I write novels but always wanted to try my hand at writing comic books.
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What is your thoughts of using storyboard as part of the script process? For my webcomic I want the action to move the story along. I am using little to no dialogue as much as possible and focus the pictures to give the reader insight. I was really inspired by the show Primal, Mad Max: Fury Road, and the silent graphic Novel: The Arrival.
For me writing the script first may conflict with that.
I like it
I’m watching these as I draw my comic book.
holy heck I am SO glad I found your channel :>
I actually really like describing the composition a bit when writing a script. It just helps the narrative flow better for me when planning it out, because then it starts feeling like an actual story.
If you guys want a script format but are having trouble with it, I would highly recommend the app WriterDuet. It will do the format work for you with minimal input from you, and any mistakes that it makes are easy to fix. For me personally, it's more intuitive than Celtx.
I do enjoy writing but when I am working on comics, I don't tend to enjoy writing out all the specifics of frames. It makes it too permanent to me even though I don't have actually to follow it. So it's a mix of thumbnails and sentences for my process!
I’ve been writing ✍️ comic plot stories all of my life and I’m doing a Gift comics for Capdocks on Twitter! And I wrote them in paper 📝 too you know!😃😄😁😉
how long should it take to make a script / thumbnailing, or rather what is in a normal timerange?
Personally I prefer to do what I call a "flesh out" comic and yeah, I'll do them more than once sometimes if I've put too much work into it and don't want to trash it. I create my own pages by folding computer paper to my desired size (either folded in half or I'll cut the half and fold it into quarters) depending on the scene. I'll sketch a quick and dirty of the scenes, never really working more than the body. I add the relevant parts to the scene, the things the characters interact with and experiment with where I want my dialogue. I tend to work on the fly, which I'm sure makes this a lot harder than it needs to be but hey, it works for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't mind scripts :) its just learning how to do it especially when panels are involved
I dont even know where to start with writing a script ahhh
How do you write a synopsis for your comic a publish company? How much is too much, while still keeping an intriguing story?
Publishers need the entire story in a synopsis. Condense everything important to 2 double spaced pages. Publishers know this is hard and makes stories sound more boring than they are, but they need it to know the full scope of the story.
@@Darkenedavo Thank you for your reply! I'll take you words into consideration. Thank you☆
Judge: What's the verdict?
Jury Rep: We, the jury, declare scriptwriting....passable.
Hahaha, jk, I just thought it was funny that some people were so vehemently against scripting. I think you made your case for it well! Thank you for your input! You (have already) totally convinced me this is the way to go!
Scripting is the most important part of the process.
But bones, if I write out the story I nolonger care about it, like if I'm drawing out the comic and I'm just making things happen I'm alright but if I write it out then try to rewrite that in comic form I don't want it anymore
I want to cry so bad so bad 🥺😭
I may know you work on comic. But if I'm gonna write for animator. Does is still work the same way on comic or not. Cause I'm not good at spelling and grammar. Like this for example of what I'm writing.
But... skripts are great and it‘s also not like one can‘t change a skript...
I ain't gonna lie. I saw the thumbnail and thought it was a game grumps animation. Still I enjoyed the watch!
Man- I can script for days- now how do I motivate myself to turn a draft into a clean piece of work?
@ 0:20, why not use the vector eraser? It works really well... no marquee selection needed.
Cuz it's probably not drawn on a vector layer, but I agree
I noticed you’re not using CSP’s paneling tool?