I love Smugglers. Some of the game's best dialogue, my favorite companion character, and they really capture the feeling of being Han Solo. But if we're going by lore here and throw game balance out the window, Warrior flicks their wrist, breaks the Smuggler's neck. Fight's over.
+AchtungFreud I don't know. Sith were considerably weaker back then then they are in modern Star Wars times. And many of these gunman were heavily armed with technology specifically meant to counter the force.
+KingLink95 Considerable? Perhaps the average was a bit weaker but sith warrior and sith inquisitor are not average. Exar Kun, Naga Sadow, Marka Ragnos, Karness Muur, Revan, and Vitiate etc are all major powerhouses and these characters will beat most characters from the movie era. The average can still choke the life out of non force sensitives. So if we go by lore then the smuggler will be dead before he knows what happened.
Mr33500 I am talking about the average Sith soldier. They are disposable. They are not trained as well. Exar Kun, Mark Ragnos, Vitiate, etc. were all highly trained and were able to climb to the top of the ladder. And yes, many non-force sensitives-especially back then were heavily equipped to specifically counter the force. Imperial officers that fight Jedi admit that they have armor like that and Mandalorians are able to fight Jedi even up to the modern SW times-why wouldn't smugglers that routinely fight force users (in the game) not carry such enhancements.
***** He was not talking about average soldiers though. He was talking about the emperor's wrath. Some were able to take down jedi but the jedi take a more non violent path in combat and in life. They may have armour to compensate but the force is above that. Most Mandalorians lose against jedi and those that don't often have the jedi outgunned. Non force users don't stand much chance against force users but with dirty tactics their chances increase. Which is actually one of the ways mandalorians defeated jedi. The sith in contrast to the jedi go in for the kill, so it would be harder to fight them than a jedi. Also smugglers, troopers, hunters and agents makes sense in the early/mid game(except against jedi/sith but i wager that's becuase of gameplay mechanics, it would not be fun to set a c4 or something and explode it from afar) but in the end game they do not. How can they stand against the dread masters?
The game really nailed the feel of each class, even the mirror classes feel worth playing because the stories are amazing for the most part. Game made a lot of mistakes early on i can see that, but it's fun af now, just wish they would have chose a better engine.
Now that Enraged Defense was buffed for Juggernauts, I'd say the Juggernaut has a better chance of winning. It's true that a Scrapper Scoundrel can open with some tremendous burst and put out very high damage afterwards for a while but the fact that Juggers can use Enraged Defense while stunned will not only negate the opening burst, but also heal him back to full HP. In a Jugger vs Scoundrel duel at roughly equal skill and gear, I'd say the Juggernaut's better defensive capabalities will allow him to outlast the Smuggler. However, before the buff to Enraged Defense, the Smuggler would have won the duel, hands down.
Hey! my scoundrel just reached level 48 and when i first joined this game this was the video I looked at and please +swtheoldrepublic, imagine my despair upon learning that I will never see my amazing ship doing an epic airstrike like it does in this video, imagine! the! despair!, so please see this, and tell my why, why did you do it........it would have been so awesome. #bringbackthefreighterxsflyby
KSSXerxes Gaming Then how come in Attack of The Clones Jango Fett was able to kill a jedi in the arena with just a pair of blasters. Just stun a force user for a sec and shoot them in the face, easy. No one is blaster proof. Even with a lightsaber.
Is that thing on the smuggler's eye head gear or character customization because I try to make a character that looks exactly like the trailers but I can't find the cybernetics on the mirlukins?
I would say it depends on the terrain. I know the warrior has charge, but if tyhe smugger is at the top of say, the huttball map and used the ability that pushes people away from his defensive screen (as a gunslinger that is), theperson can land pretty far away and then you just blast the bejebus out of them, but if the terrain is flat, the warrior wins every time.
I tried ofc but couldnt, the registration form was too busy, post failed several times, never succeeded, tried 10x. Anyway, I still hope I will have a chance to try this out soon
@MrHogslice Yeah, group pvp, the team with a smuggler/imperial agent would have the upper hand, flashbang kinda ensures that, stuns everyone in its radius, then he just has to do the bomb drop and that's pretty much an aoe stun with a high damage aoe hit right after, that can really affect the turn out of a fight.
Hmmm the would be close but if smuggler can keep on his toes and keep the warrior stunned then he can get the warrior. However, the warrior can easily over power the smuggler and make the player panic. However the shotgun, dirty kick, vital shot, along with his sucker punch and flash bang. And smuggler also can heal however warrior has no way to heal. It will be close...
Man I really miss the ability to call in your ship for a strike but I do understand why they took it out. Smuggler is in a heart of a vault underground. Smuggler: Call in a airstrike.
@xavierpaquin Yes, Vader died, but not by Han. This video talks about a direct confrontation between a smuggler and a warrior. Which is simplified to Vader Vs Han Solo. When the two met, Han easily lost the battle, badly. In these type of games, they try to balance classes out. But in reality, if the greatest force-user fought the greatest smuggler, the smuggler would have no chance. Han tried his best to kill Vader, but failed. And Vader didn't even pretend to try and kill Han.
@POCKETGUN It's actually a really awesome game, but it's not for everyone since the gameplay is made of mostly story. If you really want to see if it's crap, wait until the trial for the game is released then play that, but you don't really have to if you don't want to of course.
Well I say anyone could win because any one could kill a sith or a jedi it just you have to be quick and make sure the sith or jedi doesn't get close to tou
@Matty88444 At midnight tonight, Eastern Standard Time, the game will be officially launched, yes. Then you can go and buy the game, or if you pre-ordered, pick it up.
When will there be a TRIAL to try this out? Not everyone played beta or have a frien to borrow account for one day, and lots player dont buy a game blindly. what a demo is for a singleplayer is a 7 day limited trial for MMORPGs. I hope the no Trial yet is because they wait for the starting rush/serverload to decrease, and not that they not confident in the game yet and want ppl to buy it and then they dont care if they play or not. After a while, pls make a Trial so others interested can try it.
These fights can never be certain, I fight and I know that you can never know who will win. Its not the class that is better its the person playing as the class that looses. Its the better played that wins is what im trying to say there is no better class.
The freighter flyby ability that the smuggler used is a red flag the warrior charged him while he was activating it so interupted not indefinitely but still
@xavierpaquin Vader died because he sacrificed himself. Hand did have a run-in with Vader. Wanna know how that went? Han was frozen in carbonite. I consider that a loss.
Sith Warrior, best companion set of all including VETTE, also he can be played dark or light, dark smuggler in full doesnt make sense. At least he has the fun one liners.
I know to all that one class will best the other but if I have to choose one I would think that the Sith Warrior would win, because the Sith Warrior are made to be the war tank role in combat meaning using brutal tactics and can take any hit from anyone and anything. True the smuggler can hide and use whats left of what he has and try to win, but didn't you see how that ship came and shot down the warrior? The warrior survived that and thus can take any hits whatsoever and will win the fight.
I currently have a level 50 sith murader... And Im a big PVPer I never lose agaisnt a smuggler.. all you have to do is counter there attacks and stun them and theres nothing they can do.
From a standpoint of pure bias, the Sith Warrior is going to win the day. Build your Sith just right thinking take feeling anything you throw at him and throw it back at you along with a heap of stun plus damage. I went Vader on a group of FOOLISH Jedi, a trooper and a smuggler. Bragged of course (As I am now) but in a fight of 5v1 and its the 1 that WINS?
If ur a scoundrel every time the sith charges at u use the flash grenade then go back into stealth hide heal then go back into stealth go behind them give em a good shotty to tha back THEN BLAST EM WITH EVERY FECKEN THING U GOT WHILE THERE DOWN OR UR FECKEN FINISHED the rinse wash repeat
I love Smugglers. Some of the game's best dialogue, my favorite companion character, and they really capture the feeling of being Han Solo.
But if we're going by lore here and throw game balance out the window, Warrior flicks their wrist, breaks the Smuggler's neck. Fight's over.
+AchtungFreud I don't know. Sith were considerably weaker back then then they are in modern Star Wars times. And many of these gunman were heavily armed with technology specifically meant to counter the force.
+KingLink95 Considerable? Perhaps the average was a bit weaker but sith warrior and sith inquisitor are not average. Exar Kun, Naga Sadow, Marka Ragnos, Karness Muur, Revan, and Vitiate etc are all major powerhouses and these characters will beat most characters from the movie era. The average can still choke the life out of non force sensitives. So if we go by lore then the smuggler will be dead before he knows what happened.
Mr33500 I am talking about the average Sith soldier. They are disposable. They are not trained as well. Exar Kun, Mark Ragnos, Vitiate, etc. were all highly trained and were able to climb to the top of the ladder. And yes, many non-force sensitives-especially back then were heavily equipped to specifically counter the force. Imperial officers that fight Jedi admit that they have armor like that and Mandalorians are able to fight Jedi even up to the modern SW times-why wouldn't smugglers that routinely fight force users (in the game) not carry such enhancements.
***** He was not talking about average soldiers though. He was talking about the emperor's wrath. Some were able to take down jedi but the jedi take a more non violent path in combat and in life. They may have armour to compensate but the force is above that. Most Mandalorians lose against jedi and those that don't often have the jedi outgunned.
Non force users don't stand much chance against force users but with dirty tactics their chances increase. Which is actually one of the ways mandalorians defeated jedi. The sith in contrast to the jedi go in for the kill, so it would be harder to fight them than a jedi.
Also smugglers, troopers, hunters and agents makes sense in the early/mid game(except against jedi/sith but i wager that's becuase of gameplay mechanics, it would not be fun to set a c4 or something and explode it from afar) but in the end game they do not. How can they stand against the dread masters?
Smuggler can come up behind and pop a cap in her ass.
"I am the Wrath of the Emperor. There is no Sith, soldier, or machine that is my equal."
whaaaaaaaat! i thought i was wrath!!!! lol
Tom Fougstedt I was quoting one of the Sith Warrior lines on Makeb. There are quotation marks in case you didn't notice.
"Sucker Punch."
Smuggler...all the way...good companions, story lines, and just a blast to play.
Smuggler. All the might of the dark side is no match for a kick to the balls.
I have to admit, that was a pretty cool ending fight scene.
Because... the smuggler always shoots first.
+KSSXerxes Gaming Greedo and Lucas approve
+KSSXerxes Gaming han solo forevah ;-;
The game really nailed the feel of each class, even the mirror classes feel worth playing because the stories are amazing for the most part. Game made a lot of mistakes early on i can see that, but it's fun af now, just wish they would have chose a better engine.
the entire smuggler storyline could be summed up as this
[Flirt]
Sith Warrior is the perfect example of how to give a Warrior class the abilities of other 'magic-like' classes.
God, I love this game.
There is a reason why they call it "Immortal Juggernaut" and "Annihilation Maruader" but I like carnage more than annihilation.
Now that Enraged Defense was buffed for Juggernauts, I'd say the Juggernaut has a better chance of winning. It's true that a Scrapper Scoundrel can open with some tremendous burst and put out very high damage afterwards for a while but the fact that Juggers can use Enraged Defense while stunned will not only negate the opening burst, but also heal him back to full HP.
In a Jugger vs Scoundrel duel at roughly equal skill and gear, I'd say the Juggernaut's better defensive capabalities will allow him to outlast the Smuggler. However, before the buff to Enraged Defense, the Smuggler would have won the duel, hands down.
Really hope we get more classes than these in the future. Like a Republic Spy or an Imperial Pilot.
It is Maury Sterling, who plays the smuggler!
Smuggler can win, just gotta know what you're doing.
Sucker punch FTW!! * boss face *
I love how it looks like the Smuggler won, then the Sith Warrior pops out of the fire. Classic.
Hey! my scoundrel just reached level 48 and when i first joined this game this was the video I looked at and please +swtheoldrepublic, imagine my despair upon learning that I will never see my amazing ship doing an epic airstrike like it does in this video, imagine! the! despair!, so please see this, and tell my why, why did you do it........it would have been so awesome. #bringbackthefreighterxsflyby
Standard SW logic: Oh, he doesn't have a lightsaber so he can't win. Yeah right well nothings ever blaster-proof either.
+Quinten Sunamoto Yeah, actually a lightsaber 'blade' is. Deflect the shots, slice through their neck. Easy.
KSSXerxes Gaming Then how come in Attack of The Clones Jango Fett was able to kill a jedi in the arena with just a pair of blasters. Just stun a force user for a sec and shoot them in the face, easy. No one is blaster proof. Even with a lightsaber.
Quinten Sunamoto You did just answer your own question....
***** Well fuck it. Games are games lets just let them be unrealistic, etc.
+KSSXerxes Gaming gonna be super nerd here, but in the books a lightsaber has a 'break' point that actually makes it no longer able to deflect rounds
In my vision: Risha vs Vette (because they know eachother)
The smuggler isn't bringing a blaster to a lightsaber fight. The Sith warrior is bringing a lightsaber to a scattergun fight.
Warrior all the way. Its not just the fighting skills but they they have superior badassness.
Is that thing on the smuggler's eye head gear or character customization because I try to make a character that looks exactly like the trailers but I can't find the cybernetics on the mirlukins?
I would say it depends on the terrain. I know the warrior has charge, but if tyhe smugger is at the top of say, the huttball map and used the ability that pushes people away from his defensive screen (as a gunslinger that is), theperson can land pretty far away and then you just blast the bejebus out of them, but if the terrain is flat, the warrior wins every time.
SMUGGLER WINS i also love the part at the end where he takes out the the shotgun :D
I like how they show the Smuggler with Cybernetics you cant get
I tried ofc but couldnt, the registration form was too busy, post failed several times, never succeeded, tried 10x. Anyway, I still hope I will have a chance to try this out soon
@MrHogslice Yeah, group pvp, the team with a smuggler/imperial agent would have the upper hand, flashbang kinda ensures that, stuns everyone in its radius, then he just has to do the bomb drop and that's pretty much an aoe stun with a high damage aoe hit right after, that can really affect the turn out of a fight.
Niiiiiceeee I F'N love these vids and how they finish up =D !!!
What ability is used at 4:10? with the ship?
Hey guys i wanna start playing this but i have 1 question.
IS this gonna be like WoW like pay each month or like GW pay and never pay again?
"If I get killed... I'm gonna be so mad..."
I can't wait to start a Smuggler, I just have to finish my Commando.
guys, is there a free game client download, like WOW? or am i supposed to buy the digital or the physical stuff?
Literally crushing the circuits of the droid with the force
Does anyone know where u can get that smuggler outfit (not counting tatooine heroic gear because the lack of shoulder cape)
Smuggler is one of my fav classes so far :)
"Ancient Weapons and Hokey Religions are match for a blaster at your side"-the most famous smuggler ever
what was that thing the smuggler use at the end 2 call in the ship
Sith Warrior uses The Force to take away Smuggler's Blasters and Credits.
Jokes on the warrior. The Blaster Self destructs and the Credits are counterfit.
That stun/ bomb trick was awesome
"the smuggler always shoots first"
Sounds a little bit like a Han shot first implication to me
Whats the armor set for the smuggler?
I meant the bombing that smuggler sent is it for gunslinger or scoundrel
Hmmm the would be close but if smuggler can keep on his toes and keep the warrior stunned then he can get the warrior. However, the warrior can easily over power the smuggler and make the player panic. However the shotgun, dirty kick, vital shot, along with his sucker punch and flash bang. And smuggler also can heal however warrior has no way to heal. It will be close...
i love my sith juggernaut
the advanced class was the scoundrel correct?
Astro Boy Yup, Scoundrel is being shown off in this video
What smuggler class has ability in 4:16 gunslinger or scoundrel
Smuggler. Don't even need to see the other option
Accept mabe inquisitor, that's a tough decision
is that nathan fillion or nolan north voicing the smuggler?
The smuggler would win because, he is like the sniper that ya never see coming.
Smugglers has the better advantage to immoblize his/her opponent, but Warrior has brute force.
So how does one hide behind blasters exactly?
Trooper: ''You're about to find out what we're made of.''
Sith Warrior: ''You're made of bones that break, and blood that spills.''
She's won already.
Watching this today and thinking of the game's meta in the last two years... No one stands against against a smuggler 1 v 1 in this game :D
Man I really miss the ability to call in your ship for a strike but I do understand why they took it out.
Smuggler is in a heart of a vault underground.
Smuggler: Call in a airstrike.
My side ? My side is the Dark Side ! Forever !
I've got the tools and the talent (and a lightsaber pistol)
@xavierpaquin Yes, Vader died, but not by Han. This video talks about a direct confrontation between a smuggler and a warrior. Which is simplified to Vader Vs Han Solo. When the two met, Han easily lost the battle, badly.
In these type of games, they try to balance classes out. But in reality, if the greatest force-user fought the greatest smuggler, the smuggler would have no chance. Han tried his best to kill Vader, but failed. And Vader didn't even pretend to try and kill Han.
@PwnLord1 you can't choke it. But you can crush the circuits and wires in it's neck
@POCKETGUN It's actually a really awesome game, but it's not for everyone since the gameplay is made of mostly story. If you really want to see if it's crap, wait until the trial for the game is released then play that, but you don't really have to if you don't want to of course.
"Smuggler always shoots first"
Ok cool video but I want to see the dev team actually do a few battles with their chosen characters and lets see who wins and post it up for us to see
Apparently you can shoot holes into people and patch them up again... You can only do this really when you duel someone and that is never.
Well I say anyone could win because any one could kill a sith or a jedi it just you have to be quick and make sure the sith or jedi doesn't get close to tou
@Matty88444 At midnight tonight, Eastern Standard Time, the game will be officially launched, yes. Then you can go and buy the game, or if you pre-ordered, pick it up.
Smggler or Warrior - The only way to choose is to know who is the controller.
When will there be a TRIAL to try this out? Not everyone played beta or have a frien to borrow account for one day, and lots player dont buy a game blindly. what a demo is for a singleplayer is a 7 day limited trial for MMORPGs. I hope the no Trial yet is because they wait for the starting rush/serverload to decrease, and not that they not confident in the game yet and want ppl to buy it and then they dont care if they play or not. After a while, pls make a Trial so others interested can try it.
These fights can never be certain, I fight and I know that you can never know who will win. Its not the class that is better its the person playing as the class that looses. Its the better played that wins is what im trying to say there is no better class.
At 3:03 whats wrong with the character it says human when hes obviously mirilan
You are ofcourse right.Juggernaut or Marauder?Gunslinger or Scroundrel?TOTALLY different fight.
The freighter flyby ability that the smuggler used is a red flag the warrior charged him while he was activating it so interupted not indefinitely but still
"Because the Smuggler always shoots first." You're fucking right they do.
What about the force?
@TeamGreenBurrito You sir are a legend for pointing that out. XD
I am Smuggler! For the Republic!
Hell year to the Smuggler! ROCK IT! :D
3:29 S-key allstar. Btw you might want to buff the knights and warriors a bit, cuz a smuggler/operative will crush them.
Smuggler I mean he got the tools the talent and the girls
I played a lot time with sith warrior Pvp and i can tell most problems what i have was kill jedi counsular nor smuggler
You have force scream and smash?, well, I got...2:51
@xavierpaquin Vader died because he sacrificed himself. Hand did have a run-in with Vader. Wanna know how that went? Han was frozen in carbonite. I consider that a loss.
"Generally the Warrior should win a fight against a smuggler, uh, the smuggler does not have a lightsaber."
So Naiive....
4:00 yes but does he have the force
Haha! 2:52 Sucker Punch, enough said.
Sith Warrior, best companion set of all including VETTE, also he can be played dark or light, dark smuggler in full doesnt make sense. At least he has the fun one liners.
Mild spoiler:
Additionally the Warrior is in the end the only one really above and beside the law and rules,
the agent is also, but he is on the run.
The sucker punch is called Man Attack!
I know to all that one class will best the other but if I have to choose one I would think that the Sith Warrior would win, because the Sith Warrior are made to be the war tank role in combat meaning using brutal tactics and can take any hit from anyone and anything. True the smuggler can hide and use whats left of what he has and try to win, but didn't you see how that ship came and shot down the warrior? The warrior survived that and thus can take any hits whatsoever and will win the fight.
3:10 keep that in mind, Lucas!
I've got to go with the Smuggler on this one.
cool finish bro
THATS SOME PRO BACKPEDDLING THERE SMUGGLER
I currently have a level 50 sith murader... And Im a big PVPer I never lose agaisnt a smuggler.. all you have to do is counter there attacks and stun them and theres nothing they can do.
i like this, cos these are the classes i play
what is the name i might know him
think this: Han Solo vs Darth Vader ... i mean c'monn Sith hands down
One on one would be tuff but in group PvP the smuggler has some skills that tip the scales.
From a standpoint of pure bias, the Sith Warrior is going to win the day. Build your Sith just right thinking take feeling anything you throw at him and throw it back at you along with a heap of stun plus damage.
I went Vader on a group of FOOLISH Jedi, a trooper and a smuggler. Bragged of course (As I am now) but in a fight of 5v1 and its the 1 that WINS?
If ur a scoundrel every time the sith charges at u use the flash grenade then go back into stealth hide heal then go back into stealth go behind them give em a good shotty to tha back THEN BLAST EM WITH EVERY FECKEN THING U GOT WHILE THERE DOWN OR UR FECKEN FINISHED the rinse wash repeat
Balance?
@ACKAX Lol true dat. Lasted a total of 2 seconds in which Han Solo was rendered completely helpless.
2:04 HOW CAN YOU CHOKE A DROID?!
Smuggler no question