I ended up taken them down after a few tries. Just prioritizing healing, HP ups, counter stance etc. the megaflare attack is the most annoying to avoid. I used the summon that heals the whole party.
FINALLY DONE! 1. keep healing with Cure & Cura with Barrett & Aerith from a distance, constant Counter Stance and triple slash did the trick with Cloud, and Tifa give the gotterdameung, you can use her limit breaks *AND* the self destruct technique 2. If reprieve isnt activating for Tifa, *DOUBLE CHECK YOUR WEAPON STATS* I have mine set to auto but for some reason I still had to manually go in and activate that stat
What would I like to see in future games? The ability to save custom gear/materia setups for quick changes later. Also, it would be nice to skip cutscenes in the middle of battles like this.
"So after Tifa is done pretending as if she cannot lift up Cloud..." Lol, my thoughts exactly. Tifa is freaking superwoman in every fight and every action based cutscene, unless someone's hanging from a ledge, then she's suddenly a dainty, fragile, noodle armed girl.
Cloud can bounce off walls and jump from motorcycle to motorcycle while sword swingins, Tifa can fly through the space-vacuum and kick apart a bus, but both have to gingerly walk across a floating platform in the sewer…
Bruh I tried this. Couldnt get all 3 off the first destruct but got 2 and ended up clearing this boss. Then I get to Seph, fail a couple times and accidently hit restart from first boss. Gonna take a break from this game for a couple days. Last chapter for plat trophy.
After a dozen tries, following this guide exactly, using the exact moves (punisher+block, self-destruct, reserving ATB, limit breaks, etc.), and with some luck... finally beat this. Thank you!
Took me a couple of tries, but i finally made it. For everyone having trouble, patience is key... especially after having to watch all those goddamn cutscenes after every... single... attempt...
This was a tough fight on hard difficulty. I just finished this Areith was the last one standing she had 1 hp left when I cast Ray of Judgment on Sephiroth defeating him! That's as close as it gets! Thanks for the help BltZz!
Dude... I had such a hard time cause of my own damn fault. Was using the somersault Limit breaker on Tifa and didn't realize it. As soon as I made the change, I one shot this fight. Good job with the guide and clear instructions.
@@BltzZ thanks for the tip!! Im gonna try it out later today! Im hating this fight! The long load time and cutscenes after getting destroyed by them :(
This game has trying mechanics sometimes that feel like they shouldnt work certain ways, it happens dude. We're all still learning stuff everytime I play this! Happy to help you guys out in anyway
it works but you have to be super lucky... like tifa don't get hit went doing self destruct.. there is enough ATB at the right time.... the whispers gather together at the right timing... all these have to be happening according to plan for this to work. I got to the last phase on my first try. but was not able to get pass 3rd phase in the next 15-20 tries before i was able to kill the boss.
Bltzz this guide is awesome but unfortunately I find it very inconsistent. The start for me can be very sketchy. Sometimes Self Destruct doesn’t do half the damage it’s meant to and sometimes it does. Other times Red Whisper on its own obliterates me and sometimes the other two on their own kick my ass. I’ve done it before and got to Sephiroth which is his own separate nightmare but I can’t seem to make any headway on the Whisper battle lol. Is there any methods I can use to make it a little easier? Your guides for Hard Mode have got me this far and they’re amazing so thank you for making these guides :)
Thanks for this unique guide! I’m struggling at the point where Tifa’s limit break is about to take down bahamut: for some reason he frequently manages to interrupt her attack and one shot her. From there he goes into mega flare.... frustrated.
Bro... Respect for this guide. Ist amazing. Here and there I tried the Selfdescruct build on bosses but Im using it mostly on aerith cause of the buff or heal. But this guide is genius bro. Can't wait 2 see more guides For FF7R. ✌️
Using it with aerith gives so much room for freedom on attacks and going ham! Thank you dude glad to loved the guide! I can't wait to get working on Remake 2 for you guys!
@@BltzZ yeah I know and on her you don't use the furyring or with it you don't need the magic ups. For her limits or you mean with the refocus you mean I guess. Refocus on her is incredible. Especially with skillmaster+atb stagger. Magic is really op in this game
Ummm idk about the others but I just pulled this off on my 3rd try. You just have to counter stance a lot and self destruct properly. USE TRIPLE SLASHES. They are so key. Thanks again dude
Every time I'm stuck on a boss I follow your guides, explanations on point and everything, (love your guides!) but this one just does not work for me for some reason. Either the whispers interrupt Tifa before she destructs, they don't group, or Bahamut kills off 2 party members. Must have tried this 15 times but it never seems to go right!
And to follow up my comment on your recent top secrets guide… thanks for this build guide (3 years later lol) absolutely clapped the whispers and made Seph look like a clown. I actually took a break from FF7R to go back and do remaster play throughs because of these two battles. And for you good sir I found it was only fitting to finish off Sephiroth with a Tifa limit break even though he only had a pixel of health left LOL
Thank you BltzZ! My warding materia was only 50% so I skipped the second and last Tifa self-destruct and used Cloud's limit at the end. Not constantly using self-destruct made me realize how easy this boss on HARD is. As you continously said, counter stance is key and a little prayer, the materia, helps!!
It was hilarious when recording this because I thought I broke the game and was worried that this strategy may not be viable haha. I was never happier to get hit by correlation than I was in my previous recording of this. This footage was my 3rd attempt just to verify its consistency
Being able to pull off what you did at the start wherein the Whisper Harbinger had no idea what to do after how quickly his lieutenants were dispatched was so satisfying. It became so awkward though just looking at the Whisper Harbinger that I started to think of any possible topics of conversation with it LOL.
On normal you'd have to make sure warding is maxed out but I'm not sure if you already have that. This guide is meant for hard mode but try it out and let me know how it works!
I just got the platinum today I actually beat this boss on my first try but got lucky with the bahmut fusion He used his finisher and I managed to revive a knocked cloud at the exact time my party got wiped by him but didn’t lose since cloud was still getting up which lead to a victory in the long run
Most definitely they'd have to fix the doors and flowers bug where they don't render. Hopefully the skybox images above sector 5 are fixed as well. Overall it's a beautiful game but I want 60 fps or more. Than anything else!
No problem dude! Following this build exactly will bring aerith and Tifa into that next fight. Just remember to not stagger enemies with Barret as that gives him huge points!
Thnx man! Great video, took a little bit longer because of the timing sometimes especially in the first part... but great strategie with the instant limit break ✌
Advent children in my opinion was good I thought it was a good sequel to rap up everything in the story, and by far the best scene in that movie is when cloud is fighting kadaj, and falls off to grab jenovas head and absorbs the cells, cloud goes down to try and finish him, smacks him but is to late since sephiroth just comes out like a badass and says one of my favorite lines that still gives me chills when I see it, "Good to see you...... Cloud" and than that que with one winged angel playing, you know shit is about to go down
Should have also shown how to take care of sephiroth with this build since the game treats them as a series and you can’t change your load out before sephiroth...
You actually can if you hold square during the sephiroth battle intro cutscene. It'll open the menu to change your build up as you see fit. Check the bottom left as sephiroth floats down towards cloud to face off. And hold square
Ya gotta try out Legend of Legaia. That game was one of the all time greatest JRPG with a battle system that was so different from other JRPGs. But it was so easy to learn and the story is well done.(XIII)
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You got this! To make it easier. Be sure to use elemtnal and fire on the armor slots so ifrit can heal you it he comes out. Also 1 blizzaga from ifrit can KO ifrit easy
this guide is great but there is so much anger in my fingertips rn. i have been trying this method and i've legit added about 7 hours of gameplay just on this fight. im *this* close to calling it quits. everything is fine and i sometimes manage to scrape by with your method and sometimes i do it perfectly. but fucking bahamut messes me up EVERYTIME. i do starshower on him and he just casually flies past me no matter how good or quick my timing is and then he turns around and does umbral fury or some shit where he hits you like 10 times in a row and boom tifa is dead. then by the time i use aerith to revive her, bahamut has already killed cloud somehow or has swiped aerith before she casts revive. then the whole party just goes down and by the time ive built up enough atb to use revive again, aerith has been killed. or by some miracle if i do survive, megaflare just finishes the party off no matter how quick i am. is it too much to ask for a method that makes this fight longer but makes it a bit easier to get through? like i don't care about how quick i finish the fight. i just want to finish the fight. cause i stg if i have to sit through those unskipable cut scenes again, im gonna lose my shit, and i dont want to give up on this game. i really don't. pls help 😩 ps. sorry for the rant this game just has me on edge
Sorry I tried to do something different from other guides and the execution rate for many is too inconsistent. So I recommend not following this method at all. Instead just have cloud counter stance everything and use tifa to overpower enemies to chip damage. If you have the Gotterdammerung put it on tifa for the bahamut fight. If not then take your time with counter stancing on cloud and spam magic with aerith
@@BltzZ i will definitely try that when i play next. i need a lil break from ff7 cause i only have one controller haha. the video is still perfect and it's definitely doable. i just need a different mindset but thank you for the advice :)
Is there a video on how to determine who is used in the boss fight against Sephiroth? I've read about the point system, but I do think a video about it could be useful to others. I especially could of used it to make sure Aerith was in my party in the fight instead of Barret. Also I really wanted to hear her line "So what, screw him" when told how tough Sephiroth is. That line is just hilarious.
Lol very hilarious! Yeah I will look into seeing if I can make a video for that format. This guide will always make tifa and aerith available. Even tho Barret does more damage I think aerith killing the harbinger at the end sets the tone but I gotta rewatch it again
@@BltzZ My best guess is during my playthroughs of the Whisper Harbinger boss fight I was relying on Tifa & Barret too much, not allowing Aerith to get in much involvement. Particularly because I was trying to prevent using much MP during the fight to conserve it for the Sephiroth boss. Next playthroughs I need to remind myself to allow Aerith to get in some attacks & do the finishing blows.
This build isn’t used in speed runs because warding isn’t picked up in normal (and even if picked up it wouldn’t be high enough level to make it consistent) and in hard you have the instant limit accessory.
This fight forced me to use clouds punisher mode block/counter. That all I did. Just punisher and stand with a block. Its really effective as it recharges your ATB guage and does good damage while receiving minimum. After that it's ether and cure and whatever spam (aerith is useful for that stuff).
"Sorry this video ran for song long, but these cut-scenes.... which I didn't edit out because I wanted to plug my content instead" - yeah fair, gotta do the content creator spiel, ha ha.
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Is there reason why Tifa dies when I use self destruct? I have the same materia equipped and all of them are maxed out but she does and then I’m scrambling to get her revived. edit: I should probably grind out some more SP and get Reprieve 😅
I have been replaying this part of the chapter all yesterday and today and cant get pass it. I've tried this method over and over and can't do enough damage for this to work for me. I hate this game. 😭😤
Unfortunately they updated this fight and made the patterns very sporadic and unpredictable. The only solid way to beat this is to triple slash and counter stance with cloud a lot!. Also if you have gotterdameung use it on tifa for the bahamut portion of this fight. Good luck dude, even I had trouble with this fight a few weeks ago when we did a replay
Can’t get this guide to work the game has finally bested me! :( time to move on to something else this boss feels so cheap and I’m sick of watching that cutscene over and over - I have exact same set up and they interrupt all my attacks and don’t die as quickly like when cloud does a triple slash they are still standing after tifas self destruct really don’t get how you do it 😫 what am I doing wrong?
BltzZ scratch that tried again this morning with a fresh head and with refocus and ATB assist with Gotterdammerung on cloud and there was one bit I thought I was for sure dead but managed to claw it back and managed to beat them 🤣 hardest boss by far for me personally - I found the arsenal a walk in the park as I spent no MP during the entire chapter!!! Now for Sepiroth 🤪
BltzZ anihalated sepiroth he was actually a welcome fun fight after harbinger 🤣 plat done - probs my proudest ever glad I stuck with it adore this game but at least we’ve got ff16 hopefully not too many years away haha!
Hopefully it's not too far away as well! Welcome to the platinum club congrats! I'm streaming the ending(hopefully) of legend of dragoon tonight! Drop by here on UA-cam if you can
More than 50% of the video were cutscenes lol. I have to admit, the instant limit break build wasn't my thing. But after watching how you used it here, I want to try it too.
Can you do Jenova Dreamweaver soon? This one imo is even harder than Hell House! Those stupid OHKO moves almost make me want to smash my controller on the ground!
This just happened to me with sephiroth. Mofo somehow killed me and gave me two options. I pressed the middle one and it sent me to the beginning of whispers (to me the hardest boss) in the game 😢 aside from top secrets of course. Failure in game design to give you the option to go that far back, like at least make it clear its all the way at the beginning and don't make it look like it's the beginning of your current fight.
Fun fact: all cutscenes shown during this fight are from Advent Children. I'm guessing thats the future we are supposed to be rewriting as the world is mostly dystopian and the population diseased.
Beat it found out I'm far away from a real break. Don't want to spoil it for you but don't turn off your ps until the credits roll. Trust me. I've got to do this dumb harbinger fight all over again just because I stopped at a place I thought I'd come back to on autosave.
I'm really struggling in Sephiroth with the Materia used for this guide in Whisperers fight. We cannot change load outs between fights as Sephiroth is immediately next. Other guides for the final battle use another Materia set up and really take advantage from elemental to get healed when Sephiroth enters phase 3 so I'm not sure how to deal with that amount of damage. Really curious to see what you come up with in the Sephiroth fight.
No you can change your materia before you fight Sephiroth. Soon as you see the cutscene start hold down square and look at the bottom left screen. Once the cutscene is done you will be in the menu and can adjust your materia
@@BltzZ oh man, I feel really dumb now lol. Thanks! I always used to press start when out of combat to do that. Don't know how got this far without knowing that hahahah
@@BoxofMemorias lol no worries! Not all fights have that unfortunately. To my knowledge the Turks fight in chapter 11 and the Arsenal fight with Barret and aerith have that mechanic. I'm unaware of anything else having it tho but I'm sure there is
I'm at chapter 15 hard mode and really not looking forward to this because it's getting tougher and tougher. But after watching this my hopes are up again. Ps it took me more than a month to defeat Pride and Joy last time 😅 and you recommend to put ragnarok on tifa correct?
Yup! Ragnarok on tifa is best imo because it not only does great damage and stagger but she can hit multiple nearby enemies. Ascension of course on cloud is stronger but its harder to hit multiple enemies with it. Also since tifas dolphin flurry animation is much much longer and enemies are "pressured" the entire animation, you can use focused thrust from cloud and focused shot from Barret to increase their stagger bars dramatically! I didn't do this against the whispers to showcase the damage output from self destruct. Also I did not want Barret to deal a lot of damage in fear of him being in the Sephiroth fight
What do you do when you do not have the necessary materia for this fight because you're unprepared? Because I am missing most of the important materia and equipment here. And what do you use to do self-destruct? For some reason it's not an option for me.
The three Harbingers use the same weapons as Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo from Advent Children. Fun little Easter egg or maybe it's intentional and there is a deeper connection?
I've noticed that when I use self-destruct with Tifa I don't get an instant limit break. Am I doing something wrong? I currently am on Normal mode, so I don't have reprieve on her mythril claws, but I have sephraic earrings instead which gives auto life. I do have enemy skill - hp absorb and warding (lvl1) paired with subversion.
So I've played thru the whole game on Normal, then again on Hard, but you're listing more gear and Materia than I've managed to acquire. Gear: 3rd Force Bracelet 3rd Fury Ring Materia: 2nd/3rd ATB Stagger 2nd Skill Master Did I miss a chance to collect/buy them in another chapter?
@@UNKNWN96 updated strat would be counterstrike everything with cloud & use tifa gotterdamerung dolphin flurry to aoe round up. When aerith joins in make sure she has synergy paired to lightning and focused strike spam with tifa
I think there should be an online battle arena where you both play as cloud and have a stagger meter you need to worry about and its basically a one on one sword battle like cloud v rouche
Lol I can't get past top secret the fact that this a 21 min video explaining how to take this boss down already tells me I will fail horribly and rage quit it lol. I'm new to these kind of games I had ff9 as a kid as a present and I couldn't get into it so I never did much. Then ff7r came as a freebie and I played it and fell in love with it to the point I have to plat! Mind you I never cared much for trophies I only have one plat and that was from spiderman because just like this game I loved it and had to plat it. Out of hundreds of games I played these two were the one to snatch my soul so I can plat them.
No need to follow this method. This rate is inconsistent. I was trying to be different and it's too hard for most to follow. Just fight it normally and counter stance always with cloud ✊🏾. It's 21 mins because you are forced to watch cutscenes lol
Sigh. This fight, the pride and joy, and beating jules on the pull ups are what's costing me and stopping me from platininuming this game. So far I tried so many stategies including this one and I can't seem to do it. Oh well. It was a good run making through most of hard mode.
For this fight try abandoning this method and just going for the cloud counter stance and play it slow blocking the whole time. Jules for me was all in the rhythm but that's hard to translate over to other players tbh. It's rough. You'll get it one day just take some time away and come back and knock it out ✊🏾
This build doesn't work if the suggested materia isn't maxed out. At the start the whispers are scattered/don't focus on Cloud when he goes up to the yellow one. Mr yellow dude never tries to attack cloud so he can't get the counter off that one but can on one of the other two. I can usually get to the 2nd phase but everyone is low health and no atb so not able to heal/rez/survive. I don't know how to level up materia at this point since the game is so linear and I got to this point on hard mode only to get stuck and not get platinum which is a real bummer.
So I’m struggling doing this…. Not sure where I’m going wrong… I am self-distructing with Tifa and she isn’t getting instant limit break…. Am I doing something wrong or does that happen sometimes and it’s best to just start over to get it
This strategy no longer works. Following it to a T, even hitting all 3 of the whispers at once with a self destruct only gave me about 70% of a limit bar. And the 100% warding + reprieve is rarely surviving the insta-death from self-destruct. :\
This method is outdated and no longer is consistent with the patterns they now follow in combat being unpredictable
Thanks for the update I thought I was just unlucky.
Any plans to update this guide before rebirth?
I got here 5 days too late T_T
I ended up taken them down after a few tries. Just prioritizing healing, HP ups, counter stance etc. the megaflare attack is the most annoying to avoid. I used the summon that heals the whole party.
FINALLY DONE!
1. keep healing with Cure & Cura with Barrett & Aerith from a distance, constant Counter Stance and triple slash did the trick with Cloud, and Tifa give the gotterdameung, you can use her limit breaks *AND* the self destruct technique
2. If reprieve isnt activating for Tifa, *DOUBLE CHECK YOUR WEAPON STATS* I have mine set to auto but for some reason I still had to manually go in and activate that stat
@@TYfariguyon the last chapter gonna try to get this done 😭
Feels like they did everything they possibly could to make this fight an absolutely miserable experience so this is very appreciated
Agreed
What would I like to see in future games? The ability to save custom gear/materia setups for quick changes later. Also, it would be nice to skip cutscenes in the middle of battles like this.
"So after Tifa is done pretending as if she cannot lift up Cloud..." Lol, my thoughts exactly. Tifa is freaking superwoman in every fight and every action based cutscene, unless someone's hanging from a ledge, then she's suddenly a dainty, fragile, noodle armed girl.
Lolol the consistency needs to be fixed in remake part 2! She can punch and dunk giant robots for Pete's sake!
Cloud can bounce off walls and jump from motorcycle to motorcycle while sword swingins, Tifa can fly through the space-vacuum and kick apart a bus, but both have to gingerly walk across a floating platform in the sewer…
The realism is too real and unreal at the same time I love it!
@Edwin Alberty that's called ludonarrative dissonance
Tifa also can kick metal steel beams out the way and not break her legs but pulling up cloud is where she draws the line lol
Bruh I tried this. Couldnt get all 3 off the first destruct but got 2 and ended up clearing this boss. Then I get to Seph, fail a couple times and accidently hit restart from first boss. Gonna take a break from this game for a couple days. Last chapter for plat trophy.
Were you able to get it bro. God that's soul crushing. I've had similar instances in past games
After a dozen tries, following this guide exactly, using the exact moves (punisher+block, self-destruct, reserving ATB, limit breaks, etc.), and with some luck... finally beat this. Thank you!
Sorry! its a very inconsistent guide. I was trying to do something different and cool and I am sorry for giving you all a headache with this lol
The only problem with these guides is they need to executed it perfectly, 1 second delay is all it takes to get fucked up and have to start again
Took me a couple of tries, but i finally made it. For everyone having trouble, patience is key... especially after having to watch all those goddamn cutscenes after every... single... attempt...
This was a tough fight on hard difficulty. I just finished this Areith was the last one standing she had 1 hp left when I cast Ray of Judgment on Sephiroth defeating him! That's as close as it gets! Thanks for the help BltZz!
Dude... I had such a hard time cause of my own damn fault. Was using the somersault Limit breaker on Tifa and didn't realize it. As soon as I made the change, I one shot this fight. Good job with the guide and clear instructions.
I've finally done it! Just got Platinum! A huge chunk of the credit goes to you and your videos my dude, thank you so much. Can't wait for part 2!
Congrats my friend you deserve it!
I haven't struggled with hard mode at all in this game! Soon as this 3 fuckers appeared im getting destroyed like literally destroyed :(
Don't worry about this method it's inconsistent! Focus on triple slashing nonstop with cloud and pressure stagger them instantly with focus attacks
@@BltzZ thanks for the tip!! Im gonna try it out later today! Im hating this fight! The long load time and cutscenes after getting destroyed by them :(
man i can't believe i died at the very end and now i have to do all this again, hopefully this build will help me. Thanks!
This is why the FF7 gameplay is good because of that materia combinations
I found this battle to be so difficult, but with your method it is more straight forward. I feel like a noob in this game.
This game has trying mechanics sometimes that feel like they shouldnt work certain ways, it happens dude. We're all still learning stuff everytime I play this! Happy to help you guys out in anyway
Thanks for the guide brotha. This fight almost wrecked me in normal mode as is. Appreciate ya.
You're welcome Patrick I'm happy to help out so the next time you play them you blast their cheeks away!
Great - I basically need all the Materia maxed out that I never used before :D
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Dude been stuck on this for 2 years and still can't get it done. I follow your build and fail so many times and I can't take it anymore.
I've got Tifa with not quite those stats, but pretty close, and her self-destruct does about 3k damage and barely fills her limit bar.
Sit n00b
Tifa is a wrecking ball!! Look forward to watching this.
I cannot think of another way to describe tbh haha great!
Dude linking HP Up to do self destruct is so smart!!! I never thought of that!
It's such a great combo! Enjoy my dude there are so many fun uses especially with algid aura!
@@BltzZ It's I shame that I was never interested to use those enemy skills. Will try em out soon!
Oh for sure dude they are the best materias in the game for sure
HP is vital it's what can keep you alive, it can take your HP from 5000 to 9999 fully maxed out.
2:42 damn that is a satisfying play time!!!!
We've been going absolutely crazy on the playtime haha and it's still going up! Shooting for 400 hours before FF7R2 comes out
Literally tried this method 15 times and die every time
Same
Yeah don't think it works anymore
it works but you have to be super lucky... like tifa don't get hit went doing self destruct.. there is enough ATB at the right time.... the whispers gather together at the right timing... all these have to be happening according to plan for this to work. I got to the last phase on my first try. but was not able to get pass 3rd phase in the next 15-20 tries before i was able to kill the boss.
This is so rare to work...
@@Utubeg33k tha's way too much lol
Bltzz this guide is awesome but unfortunately I find it very inconsistent. The start for me can be very sketchy. Sometimes Self Destruct doesn’t do half the damage it’s meant to and sometimes it does. Other times Red Whisper on its own obliterates me and sometimes the other two on their own kick my ass. I’ve done it before and got to Sephiroth which is his own separate nightmare but I can’t seem to make any headway on the Whisper battle lol. Is there any methods I can use to make it a little easier? Your guides for Hard Mode have got me this far and they’re amazing so thank you for making these guides :)
Thanks for this unique guide! I’m struggling at the point where Tifa’s limit break is about to take down bahamut: for some reason he frequently manages to interrupt her attack and one shot her. From there he goes into mega flare.... frustrated.
Bro... Respect for this guide. Ist amazing. Here and there I tried the Selfdescruct build on bosses but Im using it mostly on aerith cause of the buff or heal. But this guide is genius bro. Can't wait 2 see more guides For FF7R. ✌️
Using it with aerith gives so much room for freedom on attacks and going ham! Thank you dude glad to loved the guide! I can't wait to get working on Remake 2 for you guys!
@@BltzZ yeah I know and on her you don't use the furyring or with it you don't need the magic ups. For her limits or you mean with the refocus you mean I guess. Refocus on her is incredible. Especially with skillmaster+atb stagger. Magic is really op in this game
@@jakubdawud3483 yup that's more ideal for Aerith because she's super OP with ATB gain! That stagger and stun off aga spells are ridiculous
@@BltzZ bro you need to try this on her plus atb assist and use full charged tempests between the casts. Need 2 try the atb ward again with this setup
Ummm idk about the others but I just pulled this off on my 3rd try. You just have to counter stance a lot and self destruct properly. USE TRIPLE SLASHES. They are so key. Thanks again dude
Every time I'm stuck on a boss I follow your guides, explanations on point and everything, (love your guides!) but this one just does not work for me for some reason. Either the whispers interrupt Tifa before she destructs, they don't group, or Bahamut kills off 2 party members. Must have tried this 15 times but it never seems to go right!
And to follow up my comment on your recent top secrets guide… thanks for this build guide (3 years later lol) absolutely clapped the whispers and made Seph look like a clown. I actually took a break from FF7R to go back and do remaster play throughs because of these two battles. And for you good sir I found it was only fitting to finish off Sephiroth with a Tifa limit break even though he only had a pixel of health left LOL
Thank you BltzZ! My warding materia was only 50% so I skipped the second and last Tifa self-destruct and used Cloud's limit at the end.
Not constantly using self-destruct made me realize how easy this boss on HARD is. As you continously said, counter stance is key and a little prayer, the materia, helps!!
You destroyed them so fast you had to wait around for the animations 😅 I could never
It was hilarious when recording this because I thought I broke the game and was worried that this strategy may not be viable haha. I was never happier to get hit by correlation than I was in my previous recording of this. This footage was my 3rd attempt just to verify its consistency
Can't get this to work for the life of me
Same here lol
Being able to pull off what you did at the start wherein the Whisper Harbinger had no idea what to do after how quickly his lieutenants were dispatched was so satisfying. It became so awkward though just looking at the Whisper Harbinger that I started to think of any possible topics of conversation with it LOL.
Lol! "soooooooo......destroy any worlds recently??" That's funny dude
BltzZ That and “So....... this Sephiroth guy is kind of a jerk noh?” 😂
Lool poor harbinger
I consider Advent Children (both versions) to be underrated. I personally love it.
I like it too especially the ending. The 2005 voice acting doesn't bother me much but it's funny sometimes
big fan of Advent Children. Great video as always. I've learned a lot here.
Hey dude happy to hear that! Streaming some classic ff7 and ff7 remake tonight to celebrate my birthday feel free to hang out
@@BltzZ thanks for the invite my man, happy birthday. May your significant other dress up like Tifa to help you celebrate. Cheers 🍻
No problem dude!
These are so helpful I just got to these guys and they were giving me trouble but I think I got them now
Awesome man let me know how this strategy works out if you plan to use it!
Yeahh! Let's rock!! This battle is so tough in Hard mode. Really look forward for your guide in this battle, bro.
Hope you enjoy this one dude! It's a fun fight overall now haha they just get blown to smithereens and have no idea on what to do
Might take a while, but I would suggest Xenogears to try if you're going for PS1 Square RPGs to go though. Its one of the best imo.
I forgot to name Xenogears but I have it downloaded as well!
Thanks man! Without your guides I wouldn't have gotten platinum. You are a king 👑!!!
I'm going to practice this method on normal too than finish the last chapter this is going to help a lot 🙏
On normal you'd have to make sure warding is maxed out but I'm not sure if you already have that. This guide is meant for hard mode but try it out and let me know how it works!
This dudes channel is underrated, more gamera should be subscribed
Thank you for that I really appreciate it! Much love from me and I promise in due time we'll get up there 😉
They need to add a boss rush mode so we can fight all the bosses back to back.
Yup I'd love this! I initially thought there was with how many people were uploading boss speed runs when it came out lol
BltzZ lets hope there’re sweet content added to the inevitable PS5/PC version. Preferably with fixed door texture lol.
Thanks for your guides you helped me 100% the game
Congrats that's amazing and I'm thankful for each and every single one of you guys!
I just got the platinum today
I actually beat this boss on my first try but got lucky with the bahmut fusion
He used his finisher and I managed to revive a knocked cloud at the exact time my party got wiped by him but didn’t lose since cloud was still getting up which lead to a victory in the long run
I really enjoyed this fight on hard. When the PS5 comes out im replaying ff7 remake again
I'm going to replay this game like 7 more times on the PS5 hopefully then remake part 2 will be here. But knowing me that'll only be a few weeks lol
BltzZ I’m curious to see if they make any graphical improvements I will start fresh top to bottom
Most definitely they'd have to fix the doors and flowers bug where they don't render. Hopefully the skybox images above sector 5 are fixed as well. Overall it's a beautiful game but I want 60 fps or more. Than anything else!
This doesnt work anymore making the vid kind of moot
Im playing it at ps5 and its insane!!
Wait... THAT WAS WHAT DICTATES WHICH TEAMMATES YOU GET IN TGE SEPHIROTH FIGHT!???!?? This changes everything!! Dude thanks for the info BltzZ!!
No problem dude! Following this build exactly will bring aerith and Tifa into that next fight. Just remember to not stagger enemies with Barret as that gives him huge points!
Thnx man! Great video, took a little bit longer because of the timing sometimes especially in the first part... but great strategie with the instant limit break ✌
Advent children in my opinion was good I thought it was a good sequel to rap up everything in the story, and by far the best scene in that movie is when cloud is fighting kadaj, and falls off to grab jenovas head and absorbs the cells, cloud goes down to try and finish him, smacks him but is to late since sephiroth just comes out like a badass and says one of my favorite lines that still gives me chills when I see it, "Good to see you...... Cloud" and than that que with one winged angel playing, you know shit is about to go down
Should have also shown how to take care of sephiroth with this build since the game treats them as a series and you can’t change your load out before sephiroth...
You actually can if you hold square during the sephiroth battle intro cutscene. It'll open the menu to change your build up as you see fit. Check the bottom left as sephiroth floats down towards cloud to face off. And hold square
I finally got my platinum on here thanks to this. You ROCK!!!
I farmed all that materias for trying this build, i'm going to play it today
Take your time with it and remember if it doesn't work out feel free to just go ahead with slthe traditional method
Ya gotta try out Legend of Legaia. That game was one of the all time greatest JRPG with a battle system that was so different from other JRPGs. But it was so easy to learn and the story is well done.(XIII)
I have it on the list to play on live stream very soon maybe in november!
Greetings from Africa, hope you are having a lovely day. Thanks for sharing Final fantasy. I really love it so much. keep up the good work and lets connect. Full support from me.💯
Thank you Andrew! Happy to hear you love and appreciate the videos! I'm looking forward to release more as well of course I have no plans on stopping my play or uploads for this game as we have plenty of content coming! We just finished the FF7 OG stream last night but we have plans to stream much more and classic games. Hit the notification bell so you don't miss out when we go live!
@@BltzZ I have already subscribed. I will get the notifications
Casually trying this to platinum my game~ I made it all the way to Bahamut on my first try! Then Tifa got hot hard... oh so hard... Gotta keep trying!
You got this! To make it easier. Be sure to use elemtnal and fire on the armor slots so ifrit can heal you it he comes out. Also 1 blizzaga from ifrit can KO ifrit easy
this guide is great but there is so much anger in my fingertips rn.
i have been trying this method and i've legit added about 7 hours of gameplay just on this fight. im *this* close to calling it quits.
everything is fine and i sometimes manage to scrape by with your method and sometimes i do it perfectly. but fucking bahamut messes me up EVERYTIME.
i do starshower on him and he just casually flies past me no matter how good or quick my timing is and then he turns around and does umbral fury or some shit where he hits you like 10 times in a row and boom tifa is dead.
then by the time i use aerith to revive her, bahamut has already killed cloud somehow or has swiped aerith before she casts revive.
then the whole party just goes down and by the time ive built up enough atb to use revive again, aerith has been killed.
or by some miracle if i do survive, megaflare just finishes the party off no matter how quick i am.
is it too much to ask for a method that makes this fight longer but makes it a bit easier to get through? like i don't care about how quick i finish the fight. i just want to finish the fight. cause i stg if i have to sit through those unskipable cut scenes again, im gonna lose my shit, and i dont want to give up on this game. i really don't. pls help 😩
ps. sorry for the rant this game just has me on edge
Sorry I tried to do something different from other guides and the execution rate for many is too inconsistent. So I recommend not following this method at all. Instead just have cloud counter stance everything and use tifa to overpower enemies to chip damage. If you have the Gotterdammerung put it on tifa for the bahamut fight. If not then take your time with counter stancing on cloud and spam magic with aerith
@@BltzZ i will definitely try that when i play next. i need a lil break from ff7 cause i only have one controller haha. the video is still perfect and it's definitely doable. i just need a different mindset but thank you for the advice :)
update: i beat the whisper harbinger and sephiroth by combining stuff from this video and an online guide.. never fucking again 😩😩😩
@@kennyhaha how is it
Did you killed em
Is there a video on how to determine who is used in the boss fight against Sephiroth? I've read about the point system, but I do think a video about it could be useful to others. I especially could of used it to make sure Aerith was in my party in the fight instead of Barret. Also I really wanted to hear her line "So what, screw him" when told how tough Sephiroth is. That line is just hilarious.
Lol very hilarious! Yeah I will look into seeing if I can make a video for that format. This guide will always make tifa and aerith available. Even tho Barret does more damage I think aerith killing the harbinger at the end sets the tone but I gotta rewatch it again
@@BltzZ My best guess is during my playthroughs of the Whisper Harbinger boss fight I was relying on Tifa & Barret too much, not allowing Aerith to get in much involvement. Particularly because I was trying to prevent using much MP during the fight to conserve it for the Sephiroth boss. Next playthroughs I need to remind myself to allow Aerith to get in some attacks & do the finishing blows.
This build isn’t used in speed runs because warding isn’t picked up in normal (and even if picked up it wouldn’t be high enough level to make it consistent) and in hard you have the instant limit accessory.
True but if you wanna challenge yourself further this build is more fun than using Gotterdammerung and hard mode is just a breeze with self destruct
BltzZ for speed runners shaving off time is the only measure of success. For non speed runners, yeah this is a fun hard mode build.
I have it set exactly and I do it like in the movie, but the tifa limit will fill up once and then it dies without filling the limit ...
This fight forced me to use clouds punisher mode block/counter. That all I did. Just punisher and stand with a block. Its really effective as it recharges your ATB guage and does good damage while receiving minimum. After that it's ether and cure and whatever spam (aerith is useful for that stuff).
"Sorry this video ran for song long, but these cut-scenes.... which I didn't edit out because I wanted to plug my content instead" - yeah fair, gotta do the content creator spiel, ha ha.
Lmao! 👀 Gotta bring home the foods man UA-cam's been making it hard these days. Thanks for enjoying the video spruce! If you see us live later feel free to join the stream as we finish FF7 OG
I love the cut scenes and never get sick of them. This is a channel worth plugging 😁
Waou always doing great content Mister Blitz... this is my favorite UA-cam channel ever 😍
Happy to hear that Johnathan! Looking forward to seeing you on the next live stream later tonight! Finishing up FF7 OG
@@BltzZ I was so busy lately at work that I couldn't watch your latests videos but now I'm like a student doing his homework...
Thanks!!!!! Finally Platinuming!
Can’t wait to see the builds on this one.
What's up lue! It's a fun build and breaks a few mechanics in this fight lol
Counterstance is the mvp of this fight.
Counterstance and Tifas fists and legs!
Is there reason why Tifa dies when I use self destruct? I have the same materia equipped and all of them are maxed out but she does and then I’m scrambling to get her revived.
edit: I should probably grind out some more SP and get Reprieve 😅
Oh damn! Haha yes definitely get the reprieve :D
I have been replaying this part of the chapter all yesterday and today and cant get pass it. I've tried this method over and over and can't do enough damage for this to work for me. I hate this game. 😭😤
Can't wait to see it! 👍
I'll be there with you guys!
Can you make an updated strategy for this fight?? Please 😭
Unfortunately they updated this fight and made the patterns very sporadic and unpredictable. The only solid way to beat this is to triple slash and counter stance with cloud a lot!. Also if you have gotterdameung use it on tifa for the bahamut portion of this fight. Good luck dude, even I had trouble with this fight a few weeks ago when we did a replay
This guy sounds like Roxas, I love it 😻
Roxas from the Kingdom hearts games? Haha I never heard that, interesting
Can’t get this guide to work the game has finally bested me! :( time to move on to something else this boss feels so cheap and I’m sick of watching that cutscene over and over - I have exact same set up and they interrupt all my attacks and don’t die as quickly like when cloud does a triple slash they are still standing after tifas self destruct really don’t get how you do it 😫 what am I doing wrong?
Oh nooo! Your materias are all maxed out and you got the same weapons on?
BltzZ scratch that tried again this morning with a fresh head and with refocus and ATB assist with Gotterdammerung on cloud and there was one bit I thought I was for sure dead but managed to claw it back and managed to beat them 🤣 hardest boss by far for me personally - I found the arsenal a walk in the park as I spent no MP during the entire chapter!!! Now for Sepiroth 🤪
Yooo you got this! Congrats for clapping their cheeks!!
BltzZ anihalated sepiroth he was actually a welcome fun fight after harbinger 🤣 plat done - probs my proudest ever glad I stuck with it adore this game but at least we’ve got ff16 hopefully not too many years away haha!
Hopefully it's not too far away as well! Welcome to the platinum club congrats! I'm streaming the ending(hopefully) of legend of dragoon tonight! Drop by here on UA-cam if you can
Awesome used tifa like that, good bound materias with her
Your explanation are so perfect
More than 50% of the video were cutscenes lol.
I have to admit, the instant limit break build wasn't my thing. But after watching how you used it here, I want to try it too.
It's a damn movie lol! Yo yesss try it out man its sooo much fun I'm going to use it on all my hard mode boss fights
Question, it you already received the Gotterdammerung, would you recommend a swap on a party members Fury Ring? And if so, who and when to use it?
Very Very impressivly indepth tutorial. See you in the stream tonight.
Thanks alacote! See you on the stream!
Unfortunately I do not have maxed out materia and I'm just not used to doing anything with the fury ring 😕😅
I'm gunna have to think this through
Haha no worries no need to go through with this method there are plenty of ways to beat them easily I just found this one so much fun!
Can you do Jenova Dreamweaver soon? This one imo is even harder than Hell House! Those stupid OHKO moves almost make me want to smash my controller on the ground!
Yup I'm working on that one today actually!
You cannot believe how many times I fought this boss because my dumb fingers keep selecting the wrong retry while learning the Sephiroth fight.
Oh man that actually happened to me right after this! I was so mad i wanted to record Sephiroth same time but screwed it up
This just happened to me with sephiroth. Mofo somehow killed me and gave me two options. I pressed the middle one and it sent me to the beginning of whispers (to me the hardest boss) in the game 😢 aside from top secrets of course.
Failure in game design to give you the option to go that far back, like at least make it clear its all the way at the beginning and don't make it look like it's the beginning of your current fight.
@@devilgames2217 learn to read incel
Fun fact: all cutscenes shown during this fight are from Advent Children.
I'm guessing thats the future we are supposed to be rewriting as the world is mostly dystopian and the population diseased.
Bahamet gets me every time, just attacks the one casting than I lose the ap cheap fight and I hate it
Beat it found out I'm far away from a real break. Don't want to spoil it for you but don't turn off your ps until the credits roll. Trust me. I've got to do this dumb harbinger fight all over again just because I stopped at a place I thought I'd come back to on autosave.
@@Seijuro047 I’ve already completed it so know what’s coming
I have tifas build exactly as you say but her limit break does not fill completely
So what I'm I meant to do when the yellow whispers does a different move because it doesn't work
For the first phase feel free to keep on counter stancing to avoid more attacks and aggroo
I'm really struggling in Sephiroth with the Materia used for this guide in Whisperers fight. We cannot change load outs between fights as Sephiroth is immediately next. Other guides for the final battle use another Materia set up and really take advantage from elemental to get healed when Sephiroth enters phase 3 so I'm not sure how to deal with that amount of damage. Really curious to see what you come up with in the Sephiroth fight.
No you can change your materia before you fight Sephiroth. Soon as you see the cutscene start hold down square and look at the bottom left screen. Once the cutscene is done you will be in the menu and can adjust your materia
@@BltzZ oh man, I feel really dumb now lol. Thanks! I always used to press start when out of combat to do that. Don't know how got this far without knowing that hahahah
@@BoxofMemorias lol no worries! Not all fights have that unfortunately. To my knowledge the Turks fight in chapter 11 and the Arsenal fight with Barret and aerith have that mechanic. I'm unaware of anything else having it tho but I'm sure there is
I dunno what im doing wrong but Tifa is not getting limit break off of self destruct
Where’s the sephiroth boss fight guide?
Favorite channel for guides on this game, will you do Sephiroth too?
Yup! I have Sephiroth recorded I will work on his video a bit today and see if I can release tomorrow!
@@BltzZ great! I've been waiting for a guide for chapter 18 bosses, thanks for this
You're welcome! Ill start working on that after my ☕
I'm at chapter 15 hard mode and really not looking forward to this because it's getting tougher and tougher. But after watching this my hopes are up again. Ps it took me more than a month to defeat Pride and Joy last time 😅 and you recommend to put ragnarok on tifa correct?
Yup! Ragnarok on tifa is best imo because it not only does great damage and stagger but she can hit multiple nearby enemies. Ascension of course on cloud is stronger but its harder to hit multiple enemies with it. Also since tifas dolphin flurry animation is much much longer and enemies are "pressured" the entire animation, you can use focused thrust from cloud and focused shot from Barret to increase their stagger bars dramatically! I didn't do this against the whispers to showcase the damage output from self destruct. Also I did not want Barret to deal a lot of damage in fear of him being in the Sephiroth fight
I got killed when using dolphin fury
What do you do when you do not have the necessary materia for this fight because you're unprepared? Because I am missing most of the important materia and equipment here. And what do you use to do self-destruct? For some reason it's not an option for me.
The three Harbingers use the same weapons as Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo from Advent Children.
Fun little Easter egg or maybe it's intentional and there is a deeper connection?
I've noticed that when I use self-destruct with Tifa I don't get an instant limit break. Am I doing something wrong?
I currently am on Normal mode, so I don't have reprieve on her mythril claws, but I have sephraic earrings instead which gives auto life.
I do have enemy skill - hp absorb and warding (lvl1) paired with subversion.
Dang this fight looks crazy
It's a intense one haha thanks for checking it out bro
So I've played thru the whole game on Normal, then again on Hard, but you're listing more gear and Materia than I've managed to acquire.
Gear:
3rd Force Bracelet
3rd Fury Ring
Materia:
2nd/3rd ATB Stagger
2nd Skill Master
Did I miss a chance to collect/buy them in another chapter?
What would your updated strategy be for this fight? I just got to chapter 18 and it sucks that this vid is now outdated lol
@@UNKNWN96 updated strat would be counterstrike everything with cloud & use tifa gotterdamerung dolphin flurry to aoe round up. When aerith joins in make sure she has synergy paired to lightning and focused strike spam with tifa
I think there should be an online battle arena where you both play as cloud and have a stagger meter you need to worry about and its basically a one on one sword battle like cloud v rouche
That would be cool, hopefully all of these are considered
Lol I can't get past top secret the fact that this a 21 min video explaining how to take this boss down already tells me I will fail horribly and rage quit it lol.
I'm new to these kind of games I had ff9 as a kid as a present and I couldn't get into it so I never did much. Then ff7r came as a freebie and I played it and fell in love with it to the point I have to plat! Mind you I never cared much for trophies I only have one plat and that was from spiderman because just like this game I loved it and had to plat it. Out of hundreds of games I played these two were the one to snatch my soul so I can plat them.
No need to follow this method. This rate is inconsistent. I was trying to be different and it's too hard for most to follow. Just fight it normally and counter stance always with cloud ✊🏾. It's 21 mins because you are forced to watch cutscenes lol
Sigh. This fight, the pride and joy, and beating jules on the pull ups are what's costing me and stopping me from platininuming this game. So far I tried so many stategies including this one and I can't seem to do it. Oh well. It was a good run making through most of hard mode.
For this fight try abandoning this method and just going for the cloud counter stance and play it slow blocking the whole time. Jules for me was all in the rhythm but that's hard to translate over to other players tbh. It's rough. You'll get it one day just take some time away and come back and knock it out ✊🏾
This build doesn't work if the suggested materia isn't maxed out. At the start the whispers are scattered/don't focus on Cloud when he goes up to the yellow one. Mr yellow dude never tries to attack cloud so he can't get the counter off that one but can on one of the other two. I can usually get to the 2nd phase but everyone is low health and no atb so not able to heal/rez/survive. I don't know how to level up materia at this point since the game is so linear and I got to this point on hard mode only to get stuck and not get platinum which is a real bummer.
I'll definitely use this strat :-)
The whole harbinger Monster nonsense was too much ridiculousness for just the end of midgar, tho... Hahaha
Nomura wanted to send us off with a big kingdom hearts bang lol tbh I see why they did it. I welcome change I just hope that not too much is derrailed
So I’m struggling doing this…. Not sure where I’m going wrong… I am self-distructing with Tifa and she isn’t getting instant limit break…. Am I doing something wrong or does that happen sometimes and it’s best to just start over to get it
So why do you need the warding materia with subversion if it kills your anyway without reprieve? What does it do? Am I missing something?
This strategy no longer works. Following it to a T, even hitting all 3 of the whispers at once with a self destruct only gave me about 70% of a limit bar.
And the 100% warding + reprieve is rarely surviving the insta-death from self-destruct. :\
Well good to know, was wondering why I couldn't get limit constitently. Time to find another way I guess