You Need This Tool - Episode 12 | Aircraft Rivet Riveter & Rivets
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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These are a little higher than your standard air hammer but are made for rivets and work way better than an air hammer.
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This is probably the best standalone bucking bar to buy.
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On this episode of You Need This Too, I highlight the oh so awesome Aircraft Rivets. They always look cool and are not as hard to do as you would think.
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Hi Kyle, great selection once again!! This was my bread and butter for 32 years. The end that goes into the hammer is called a "snap" they come in dash 3-4 and 5. Thats in 32nd of an inch. A lil helper for ya .....use a piece of rubber preferably from a blow press die or any hard rubber that wont break under pressure. It helps keep all layers tight when squeezing the rivet Drill a hole to the size of your rivet shank in the rubber and put it over the rivet between the work and the bucking bar..At least to set it then take it off and finish the button, for a 3/32 hole and rivet, drill it with a number 40 bit. or 3/32 , dash 4 is .128", and dash 5 is ..156". As a rule for shank length its 1.5 the diameter of your shank should be protruding on the back where the button will be formed.No more tho, it will dump and fall over going oval...no good.Esp if you can see the base of the hole. If so redo. If you lay a rivet down and its flush to the rivet shank thickness as a minimum you can squeak by on that. Were not building the shuttle right? lol....Make jumbly sense? You can also get alot of that stuff on www.yardstore.com/
yep good tool to have. Mine is a "ATS-3X" it is an actual rivet gun. air hammers are ok but not nearly enough control. you are gonna have smiles on your rivet had and flat buck tails if ya go too hard. cheers! 20 years as a C130 airframe mech.
Thanks buddy I started out looking for Speedy Rivets and found this video which i learned something about Aircraft rivet installation that is cool because i have a fondness to Airsteam Campers and ive always wondered about replacing some although i must admit in general Airstreams are pretty solid even the older ones what ive found and another reason i like them is they are generally Leak free without water damage inside like so many other campers that have rubber membrane roofs and Butyl taped windows and doors ! Another plus on Airstreams is they usually installed pretty high end components as its not in common to find a 30 plus year old furnace or refrigerator in one that you cant get working with a minor amount of love and tinkering
I pickup a short stroke light weight air hammer on ebay for about £20 and it sets rivets really well on 60psi. Counter sunk rivets can give a classic stream line look to a project.
+redneckracing01 Sweet...appreciate the input
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As a career aircraft structures man I would offer some caution here...The gun used in this video is an air hammer, not a rivet gun. It will do the job (unless you're dealing with much bigger/harder rivets), but a rivet gun should be used with aircraft rivets. An air hammer has a faster, less powerful stroke and a rivet could easily be bent, not bucked correctly, or become brittle/unworkable due to excessive (too fast) action at the rivet set end. Rivet guns are a bit more expensive, but if one wants to correctly use solid-shank aircraft rivets, use a rivet gun, not an air hammer. Shameless plug for The Yard Store and Ebay for good used rivet guns.
This gun can be regulated and has driven 100's rivets with no issues. The guns linked in the description are specific guns made for solid rivets though if that makes you feel better. Thanks for looking out
That rivet is an MS20470A(or B) rivet( couldn't see the head good enough to be sure), which is an extremely soft rivet. That was an air hammer you bought not a RIVET GUN, and the tool that goes on the button head of the rivet(yes, it is called a button head rivet), is called a rivet SET, never has it been called a "SNAP" like Steve Jacobs called it, and that "buck", is called a BUCKING BAR which forms the shop head, the button head is also referred to as the Manufactured Head. Just in case you wanted to know the correct names of the tools.
you should put you knowledge to good use
+The Fab Forum+ I do. I have worked aviation for over 30 years. I build small private planes in my garage and restore vintage aircraft. My message was a "Just in case you wanted to know" message". I was not trying to be a smartass if that's how it came across.
Its hard to read intent through text. Thanks for the insight
.. thanks "trollin" for your input ... BUT I suggest we might both be correct ... my using the term 'Snap' IS correct if perhaps more often used outside the USA where the term 'Set' is more in use .. outside the US I always heard the term 'SNAP' used ... its probably a hang on from the old world British systems of doing stuff that I grew up with ... (BTW I also am an A&P and a Licensed Aircraft Engineer and have been since 1976) CHEERS
Then I stand corrected. I am not well versed on British terms though I do try. I am always willing to learn.
Aircraft structures guy. if you want to shoot rivets get a good gun. IR AVC12 or 13. CP4444. a gun made for riveting. they have better trigger control. and hit better.
If you are talking to me, mine works awesome...
I am looking to buy one, but the ones you suggested have longer heads than some of the other ones, is that a good thing?
That is not necessarily a "aircraft rivet tool "Aircrafts use different types of rivets including Cherri rivets. That is a solid rivet tool instead of a pop rivet tool
I always found the cheapest light duty air hammer from walmart or lowes, etc...they bucked the rivets exceptionally well without paying the big money for a rivet gun.
yeah they are usually a little too fast and powerful though
OG body man here .. I call it a body toe dollie or heel dollie would work to back that thang up
Tungsten works awesome for bucking rivets too!
"anvils" For what it's worth, in the aircraft world, those are called either "sets" or "snaps"
The aluminum ones get bucked pretty easy, but a heads up for people looking into this, pay attention when you buy them. If you get steel or monel rivets, you have to use a tungsten bucking bar, or you will have a very hard time trying to get squeezed.
good to know
Nice episode !! Ive used the countersunk version of those on plane skins before , they hold great when swelled.....
+johnsont963 thanks
I'm most interested in "the countersunk version" if you care to share.
I don't know if you have taken a look at Cleco fasteners but you should do a video on those
I got some countersunk rivets if you wanna try bucking those! It takes some practice, but looks amazing once they are in.
+Ian James Thanks Ian. I actually have some also.
Thank You, picking one up :D
sweeet
need a demo in your tool video fool. 😜
+Mekhanic1 I highlight tools I use on the channel. The channel has all kinds of videos with demos.
+Mekhanic1 thats what i was thinking , maby could have put a few in just to show ,
That would of been cool to see.
Yes no disrespect meant. You have great vids. I was just including my two cents.
As soon as I saw the hammer I almost left the video hahahahha. Always wondered how you do those rivets without distorting the heads.
+1320kings haha...nothing like a good claw hammer
They are "BB" rivets.....shot literally hundreds of thousands of them building the pressure dome for the 747 for Boeing..... :-)
Cool tool, great idea, great video.
+Tim datoolman thanks
Great video, man. Super helpful ... so thanks!
no problem
Aircraft guys don't like air hammers!
Automotive guys don't know the difference!
Air hammers are cheap, old used American made Rivet Guns are expensive.
I sell 50 year old rivet guns for $100 with several rivet sets and a bucking bar on eBay.
I sell air hammers at the swat meet for $5-$10
GREAT VIDEO though! Thanks for sharing information with a masses. . .
yeah I would agree with that
Enjoying these man
+ChkNoris thanks
Good video ... the 'bit' that that goes into the riveting hammer is commonly called a "SNAP" ...
thanks
Steve Jacobs
What about some metal prep tools for paint, welding, etc.?
+Eric Fixalot dont know much about prepping for paint
You missed one little trick. A strip of duct tape over the socket of the rivet snap usually helps keep the manufactured head from getting scuffed up.
+waaaaste hmmm I will have to try that
Masking tape will work better and cheaper. We usually apply it to the sets themselves and have an abundance of it around when sealing aircraft surfaces.
I've bucked 100's of thousands without the need to protect the rivet head. I have used the tape to hold the rivets in place in the individual holes instead of placing them one at a time.
nice tool must have it thumbs up bro ..
+AutoTech .DIY. Thanks man
I'm riveting lol, thanks for sharing
Hey mate, Love what your doing on this channel and your enthusiasm to FAB. I bought a pair of t shirts to show my support, keep at it!
Thanks buddy...I will send you some extra stuff.
why not use pop rivets? is it because the solid ones looks more clean?
Still have my IR 4X rivet gun and I haven't worked on planes in 22 years.
Look into Yardstore.com for the tools you'll find them for a good price.
that thing is call a rivet set...and monels are best for stainless...
dude show us how to use it
i know Im quite randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to watch newly released series online ?
@Collin Kamryn I watch on flixzone. Just google for it :)
@Collin Kamryn i watch on FlixZone. Just search on google for it =)
don't forget the Cleco pliers and fasteners
I've already done those. I think episode 3
good stuff
+Fred Sitzenstock Thanks
Really awesome tool, worked a few times with aircraft rivets. Projects looked way better.
What introducing music do you use on the fool videos? Like the beat :D
+Konstantin Jusow something from the UA-cam library
Will this tool do solid steel rivets?
Good deal
Thanks Mr.Fool!!!!!
+BADAZZ93STANG welcome
Fiberglass hammer? Oh you mean the Ford wrench! Great for working on the mustangs eh hahaha
+The613MC never had to use it
Do you think it’s okay to use a normal style rivet to secure fiberglass to aluminum? Worried it might crack the fiberglass.
probably be ok if the expanding part of the rivet is on the aluminum side
The Fab Forums ok. I may even use those rivets that expand into the 3 legs on the backside. Might put less pressure on the fiberglass.
Thanks for the reply
Not sure why you're calling these aircraft rivets. While they may be used on aircraft, they are used in a lot of other capacities as well. We commonly call these, "semi-tubular rivets". One can also buy a modified c-clamp to squeeze them together; they run about $50.
these particular ones are solid rivets but yeah I am familiar with the ones you are talking about as I have some of those along with a squeezer
@@Thefabforums I stand corrected, my apologies. I should not have been so cocky with my assumption
Hey fool!
Thanks for your vid bro!! Exactly the info I need to tackle a project. Sub'd!!
Thanks
I like.......Thanks
No problem
Thanks dude sic sight
thanks
sweet
+2LateIWon Thanks
Have you used this gun as a hammer for sheet metal shaping?
+Bob M I have not...I plan to buy a planishing setup soon though
+The Fab Forums What's your thought on this working for both uses.
+Bob M It could probably work but I plan to buy me a dedicated planishing setup.
you need to try some flanging pliers
+Drake Bartel I will look into those
Don't need the background music playing while you are speaking, it's just distracting.
So you just hold the buck by hand? Sounds iffy.
lol....thats the way its done
Use ittttt!!!!!!
+krutik shah You can see it being used in my other videos
+The Fab Forums Sweet. Looking forward to more stuff.
wouldn't pop rivets be more efficient ?
yes but not near as strong or cool
where"s a good place to buy the solid rivets????
There are a lot of places...you can get them on amazon, I put a link in the description
+Stephen Dagley search AN470 rivet or MS20270 for universal head rivets. or AN426, MS20426 for 100 degree countersunk.
Right on-- - first time watching - will be watching more ,
Could you show a Demo next time - Just a quick Rivet --
im an airframe guy you ever want to learn some tricks i got you covered
Now that's a cool tool fool! Lol
thanks
Product info ? Link? I myst be blind ....
all the links are in the videos description
DO NOT USE AN AIR HAMMER! use a Rivet gun. they are drastically different and apply force in a different way and it is harder to form a rivet using a air hammer. and air hammer will destroy rivets for the most part.
only if the air hammer is not adjustable
I build semi trailer.. And those rivets are puny hahaha
whats your point
Is not that peace that goes in the gun a rivet set and the other piece is a bucking bar? All the bucks are in football.
yeah
Fuckin aye!
how to light a fire with petrol with no demonstration!!!
I will try to do it with Stodoys plans.
I'm riveting lol, thanks for sharing
no problem