Overcoming THIS Hobby Failure?
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We have a local store that adopted a gym-style membership. The play area is open 24/7, everyone who's a member (for a monthly charge) gets access to terrain, mats, tables, etc, anytime. We all have an app that unlocks the door. The retail area is separate and only available when one of two owners is at the store.
That being said, the store is thriving and I think it's because of this change. Members also get a discount on special orders and pretty much everything on the retail side.
That's an interesting idea! I like it.
That sounds genuinely awesome! Can I ask store name and location?
100% you have to chase your joy in painting.
I have discovered I am happier by having a small backlog. Ideally, I buy my next mini so it can be ready to prime at the same time I'm ready to varnish my last.
I enjoy the painting process and having and playing with painted minis.
Meanwhile unfinished minis are a constant negative pressure, stealing my joy, so I avoid them.
People who feel exactly as I do, I recommend to do what I do.
Those who don't will have to find their own path.
@@QDurlstonP IT's in Ohio, called Refuge Gaming.
That's a good idea. I would gladly pay a FLGS for this type of service.
Jay: I’m already behind (entire combat patrol)
Scott: I have 2 guys done
I have a whole year to paint an army! Back off, Dad!
@@MiniacI mean, the last 40k army you painted took 7 years, so you might wanna get going. 🤪
@@HobbyDad_dy God damn it, you got me there
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@Miniac 😂 we love you Scott. I've been watching for years and I always love your interaction with the viewers. I even entered one of your painting competitions in like 2017.
For your deleted footage issue, I can recommend you the movie industry policy: get 2 hard drives, when your empty the memory card of the camera, back it up on both the hard drives, and when you do the editing work with only one drive.
This way, you'll always have an untouched backup of all your work.
And only format the drive when the video is finished and uploaded on UA-cam, and nover before !
I'm 58 years old and recently found that if I never buy another model and build and paint what I have, I'll be 99 when I'm done. So I bought the ( now ) old Adeptus Custodes box.
Between this video about backlogs, and Ninjon's video about paint hoarding, I feel like I got some very helpful therapy this morning
My policy on footage is that it exists in 2 places until the project it was shot for is completed. Typically this means it doesn’t get removed from my camera card until the video is published. (This does mean that I own more camera cards than I strictly need)
I was about to say this exact thing. It’s a hard lesson to learn, but usually only something I’ve had to teach my coworkers once.
I can hear my Dad saying, "Memory is cheap." Sounds like someone needs to buy some extra chips.
Yup I'd just add a giant NAS to the system set to automatically copy and backup drives with a delete after X days/weeks/months.
A Miniac/Ninjon double video launch?! At the same time?! Fantastic!
Got to love being double teamed by Scott and Jon on a Friday afternoon 👍
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I've got 3 piles. Models that are:
assembled/undercoated.
Then my largest pile (about 75% of everything I have) that have paint on them, but usually as far as a basecoat.
Finally, I have my small 5% of finished minis.
I start a project, don't paint for ages, then start a new one to 'get me in the flow'. Repeat.
Same. It's frustrating sometimes. Hoping for rainy days.
The biggest hobby failure is not doing the hobby. Giving up on minis is part of our hobby. Embrace it. 😅
that's fair!
Na biggest hobby failure, getting a job with GW 😂
I feel you man, got to the last guys in my admech army and just wasn't feeling it anymore. didn't like the schizophrenic colour scheme and didn't like the model.
ended up giving up painting for a while, now i'm coming back with a tyranid army, i'm also gonna strip the paint off my admech army and either re-use them for a turnip28 kitbash or repaint them for an admech diorama. Because i've found that to have a really effective admech army i kind of need to buy and paint a bunch of units that dont really appeal to me visually. So i'm probably gonna take the best of the bunch and just make a showpiece diorama out of them.
Love that idea of using the LED to help with OSL. That’s an extremely helpful tip.
It seems like a healthy backlog to me, you've done a lot of work on many of the minis. The glass is half full!
18:08 is a mindset I hope more people get to quicker with less pain. If criticism doesn't mesh with my instincts, I just nod my head and waffle the conversation along. This sort of "I'm in it for me" is a great sentiment to translate from this into exercising and getting healthier. When it no longer becomes about expectations someone else is setting, and more about your own pursuit, it feels more pleasant.
Couldn't agree more, especially that last sentence.
"Steve what the fu*dice roll*" killed me. I laughed so hard.
SAME with chasing the painting high. I have 3 or 4 forces I am planning/working on just for Horus Heresy. That doesn't include the Kill Team I have, or the Cities of Sigmar minis I have just because they look cool, or the minis I want to paint for me and my friend's Rolemaster game.
I bounce around to what keeps my interest and happiness. I've also embraced table ready and play ready levels of paint versus taking to an event and trying for an award level. Helps with sanity for sure.
I just have a ton of grey that I'm making my way through. I don't like leaving projects undone so I do my 5 or 10 guys at a time and slowly cover all the grey on my table
I haven't been in the hobby for too long so I don't have too much backlog for painting, just the army that I'm working on painting right now, seraphon that need to be finished basing, and then more stuff that's unpainted entirely and in need of assembly.
Oh man that vampire bloodlines segment brings me back! I played the Necrarchs back in the day. Summoned all of the skeletons!
Got lots of stuff in various states of started to almost finished. Really just depends on my hobby mood to what i grab and do.
I often feel defeated looking at previously painted and unfinished minis. This is never looked at, so it's helpful to see a pro not getting through each mini they touch. It's sad to think "I'll get back to it", but really we stopped for a reason and maybe it's better to just move on and learn from it. Good video.
Usually, with me, I stop because I am not sure where I want to go next with the project. Can't get the colors right, have no idea what other colors I want to use, feel like something is lacking and not sure why, etc. So it gets set aside until an epiphany hits. Could be next month, could be 8 years down the road.
Until then, it just sits on a shelf waiting.
No shame. I have plenty of other things to paint.
That Drukhari scheme looks so good. I've never seen them looking so bright but I really like it.
lol, I have a hundred something models in progress. Working on Lion Rampant and I stripped and started repainting my old space marine collection. Been slowly chipping away
I have less than a dozen WIP minis. I might have a few others that I purchased and haven't touched up yet. I prefer to store built & primed, and then go straight through to painted. (Plenty are primed and ready, but not painted yet)
Dang son, youtube has had you removed from my algorithm for FOREVER! I'm so happy to see you're doing well. So proud of you for still making this content, you're one of the great ones
gotta love the tewbs
you're still my favourite youtuber! i'm coming back after a long hobby break and I am absolutely excited to watch all your videos I missed! great content!
A LOT of my hobby backlog is being stuck in a painting-scheme limbo. Trying to find a scheme I am both happy with and that is able to be completed in a timely fashion. Which are constantly at war with each other. Also envy of other schemes I can't replicate, give up and try and find another scheme I can do and still mad I can't do what I want. It also doesnt help I collect a lot of horde armies.
Hobby procrastination is real. I know what I want to do but afraid of the massive time sink and failures to reach it.
Most of my minis are unfinished. Better than gray right? My approach is to get as far as I can with the minis I will use in the upcoming game, then put them on the table no matter how far I get. Eventually I will pull them out for another game and get to work painting them more. Some will eventually be finished, some will never get very far. But I am practical about it - paint for a purpose but don't worry about how far I get, any progress is better than gray.
hmm... only one started and as yet unfinished model here.. although I dont count the ones i have primed and then put back in the drawer for later. My issue is starting (motivation) minis. I usually get them finished.
I've collected a bit of everything 40k. Over 17 different armies. Very few of them are fully painted. I look at abandoned projects as opportunities to paint something different. I started the year strong and painted over 90 guardsmen.. I'm now working on Sylvaneth.. but next I could easily finish up the last Goliath truck to have my Genestealers fully painted.. or maybe go back to Angron and finish him off since he's about half done.. I see it as an ability to paint what strikes me, not grind my way thru something that isn't holding my interest.
I have more unpainted then that but I try not to have more than a dozen things started at once or its overwhelming and I don't paint any of it.
Nothing wrong with chasing what is fun.
One of the reasons I currently have 15 active projects going. When I sit at the painting desk, I grab whichever one is calling to me. Get some paint on it, grab the next one that I feel like working on.
I've got plenty of others that are started but got shelved for one reason or another.
I'll get back to them eventually
Or not.
Doesn't matter, as long as I am having fun.
It's the journey, not the destination.
Miniatures are never completed, only abandoned earlier or later in the process. Its okay to shift your focus to a new project if the one you have is not doing it for you. Do not beat yourself up.
2:00 I don’t know how I’d accomplish it, but if I ever did dark eldar, I’d want to make them basically space Drow, with blue-gray-almost cobalt black skin tones.
My WIP collection is def bigger. They’re all super close to being finished, but a shinier mini came along. Not even like it was a conscious decision. Fully intended to get it over the finish line, but started a new mini instead. Occasionally I have a day of only finishing minis….which is an epic day with much self congratulatory behaviour 😅
I had to move my paint room downstairs, but the room still had to be built, and setback after setback occurred. 1.5yrs later and the room is almost finished, but I still kept getting more stuff to stock up on to paint, and it's embarassing. 4 factions of ASOIAF, 2 different He-Man games, and 3 large campaigns for Dungeons & Lasers, with a 4th ordered for when it finishes by next year. Overall I feel like I have about 1000 minis to paint and a number of terrain and pieces that go with it. I hope I end up living long enough to paint and play them. Don't feel so bad Scott. Antsy to get back to to it as we get ever closer to finishing the new paint room
I don't play any games with my minis, so all my projects are just "because I wanna", with no real impetus to ever finish them. I do want to try my hand at display quality painting and take part in some competitions down the line, but currently as I'm going through a bit of a "renaissance man" type of hobby and interest exploration, I've painted a grand total of 10 minis this year, with four minis halfway painted on painting handles and a small box primed and ready for more paint.
I got a massive pile of wip minis. 2 months ago, I got diagnosed with adhd... Hopefully I can make some meaningful progress as the meds start to work
My backlog is mostly empty, for I sold my wip army and moved on to board games. I currently have bloodborne , shovel knight and massive darkness 2 to deal with. But, I dont really consider them backlog rather than future fun to have :)
at the moment only minis I haven't finished are my bloodbowl "Mighty Crud-creek Nosepickers" and the Nighthaunt "Black Coach"
Oh man, my hobby area is full of nothing but partially painted minis across 4 armies. Though i need to finish some now since my daughter just got her first 2 squads and an HQ, and she wants to play.
The blessing and curse of 3d printing. I find so many cool STLs that I then buy and print and get side tracked and never even get to start painting
I never have more than two in-progress minis with paint on them at a time. (I have a small handfull more that are built and primed, maybe five.) I don't paint armies though. I paint individual minis for D&D or just for fun. My purchased pile of shame may be plenty large, but when I resolve to actually put paint on a model, I do not allow myself to move on until it is complete.
I'm also notorious for going way too hard on every mini I paint, even when I say it will be a "quick and easy low effort model...." ...it never is.
I'm actually impressed with how few miniatures you've begun but not completed! I do a lot of stuff with just the major basecoats to get it ready for a game, and then don't finish it afterward because I'm thinking about the next thing.
I've been painting off and on since the 90s... I have had so many ideas I can't remember... I'm sure I have armies for games that don't exist anymore waiting to be finished...
Your's is nothing to worry about
Nice, the PK-Pro Shop is less than 60km/37mil from here. That's an option to get your minis I'll use in the future.
your WIP stack looks awesome, way more complete than mine. Keep up the good work.
Oh papa... what if i told you i have 1100 Miniatures yet to build, paint and more....... oh boy.
Oh, we're not talking backlogs...if we expand this video to just miniatures I have, it gets far more depressing 😅
@@Miniac you are right...then... 300 here at in backlog...
I have a backlog of terrain….I don’t have a lot minis, Legion, ShatterPoint, Aliens and just now…Zombicide. I mainly get them to set the mood to design terrain.
If you delete something accidentally agian don´t worry. There´s data recovery software which can restore the data most of the times if you stop using the harddrive immediately. And it doesn´t necessarily need to be expensive. Hope this helps you
"ya never really know with me", a certain Blood Angel's commission comes to mind, hehe great video.
Does it count as WiP, if you never actually start painting? I have so many mini's that i have 3d printed, bought way more then enough gear(air brush/paints/etc) just never get around to actually painting.
My husband is a meta chaser. The number of unfinished minis we have is staggering.
I absolutely love your painting. I’m impressed with the paint on the terrain as well.
I got more partly painted miniatures. Mostly i stopped after a while, because i noticed i don't have any fun painting the miniature. At the moment I'm working on the partly painted Marvel Crisis Protocol miniatures, and throw in some other miniatures now and then.
I have never thought to spell 'zhoozh' with the 'sj'. I like it, well done for clearing up something that's troubled me for years.
4:25 PLEASE tell me you have a video or guide doing that beautiful blue armoring on the blood knights.
I got into this hobby through a 3d printer, so the having something unpainted or partially finished was part of the plan. There's this set of miniatures that are designed to be printed without supports, which can make them a little bit C tier in terms of "wow that mini" but they're better than anything that came out 20-30 years ago and they're super easy to crank out of the machine. One of them has a super crusty fluorescent orange coat of paint on the cloak because I was just trying to figure out how to get the paint to work good, and that's going to live with me forever.
I can absolutely not relate to this. The only half painted models in my collection are the ones on my painting desk. I just... never start painting something until I finish what I'm working on first. Somehow that's not a problem for me.
I have two unfinished conversions though, but I feel like that's not quite the same.
Yop... that backlog of WiPs reminds me of mine... lol and the reasons for stopping painting them is often similar too.
I've been painting since 1972, before D&D was even a thing. I have nooooo idea how many unpainted minis I have, but its a lot...
Really nice, you have done some work on them already, just a bit more work and they will be so epic !
Miniac, if you happen to see this comment: As a painter of both dark elves and vampire counts, how do dark eldar incubi compare to blood knights in scale? I'm looking to convert some blood knights on foot for a side project, & was wondering if Incubi might provide suitable legs/lower torsos.
Incubi are a little more chunky and slightly taller than the new Blood Knights
I have been into the hobby for almost 15 years. Sadly I have more armies than games I average in a year. But I enjoy your take that there isn’t really a wrong way to hobby, just so long as your happy!
I have so many half painted miniatures. At the end of the day, I do this for fun and if I am not having fun it’s not worth the time. I put it aside and can always come back to it.
I feel like it’s like watching a movie you hate. You can turn it off and do something else. Plenty of artists start pieces and abandon them and do something else. It’s ok!
The largest Thing I have that falls into this category is my Circle Orboros Woldwrath that I started painting in 2017.....
Then there's the Half painted Squad of Warpborn Skinwalkers with alpha from 2018
The two Wold wights from 2018
A Squad of Man-o-war Shock Troopers from 2014
The Tyranid half of a Space Hulk board game started in 2023
and the Legionaries Kill team Started also in 2023.
But yes My Largest Half complete project is the colossal.
Nice to see that you work with pk-pro and not with gsw!
Scott’s really bringing the Will Ramos vibes with the outro now.
Man the blends on that white grey star wars cloak are so good!
Are there going to be STLs for the premier minis like the warrior available for purchase?
If you ever get to doing the OSL video I will be taking notes.
Take your time tho, love the insane quality you put in.
I have to much of a backlog of scale cars and gundams ,I have only got a box of drukhari kabalite warriors in my backlog but I do have 3d printers now
As mainly an AoS player here, I'd be really curious on your take of what we're seeing for the new 4th ed rules/if they'd make you any more interested in the game. Mostly because your ghosts and vamps slap and I wanna see them finished.
Definitely interested in trying it out again! Lots of good changes.
I've run across the problem that I just can't put down a mini, even if I'm not enjoying painting it. Which in turn makes me not sit down at my desk as much. I wish I could make myself move onto a different mini, but there's some mental block there that won't let me.
My wife and I just had this conversation yesterday cause I have 5-8 WIPs. I told her that sometimes I just need the right inspiration and it just wasn't there at the time when I was painting it. So of course I go and buy more minis and then I have more and more to paint lol. I will say that I was on IG and I saw I hadn't posted in a while so this year I have finished 2 minis so far lol working on a few others too lol WIPs are just tools we use to learn with!
Get wait to get your models through a UK site. Please let us know when this happens mate.
I have a few models in my backlog, but I do intend on finishing them. All I saw in this video was great work that led to some of my favorite miniatures I have ever seen. Let's be honest your started minis even look great! I look forward to your videos for inspiration. I'm starting Ninjon's class on the warrior this weekend! So freaking excited!
Good luck!! Leave any questions in the course if you have them :)
Scott: I'm gonna share with you something that's a bit of an embarrassment of mine. *everyone looking at the mustache.
Cuts away to some unpainted minis.
Looking at a closed full of WIP minis...yeah....
PK Pro checked and bookmarked... thanks for that!
Not sure if this is helpful regarding your data protection issues but I would suggest looking into the 3-2-1 Rule when it comes to that...
On more of a lighter note: New minis in the Miniac Merch Store - The Warrior, the Witch, and the Wardrobe!
You can conquer the forests of the old world with those Wood Elves…Thanks for the video.
I think a large part of what makes these games appealing is the anticipation and potential. That what gets me buying, anyway. This unit will be so good for my list, I'm going to paint it so cool, my friends and I will play a bunch and have so much fun, etc. I have so many partly painted purchases for partly finished forces. And I'm starting another! Apparently that's how I hobby. Now to make peace with it.
I've painted ~1500 points of goblins in 3 months. I also haven't yet painted (but assembled, primed and put some paint on) around 2500 points of goblins. Yes, I love goblins
I've got a few boxed games worth minis and some Wizkidz D&D stuff that sits in a project box.
As an avid Necromunda player who plays Cawdor and Delaque its so great to see you enjoying the game, but also picking the "best" gangs :) I look forward to your painted Delaque gang when you get to them :)
Painted in slapchop before slapchop existed... So around 1500s?
nice
Yea found that comment weird as well. Marco Frisoni was also doing underpainting before anyone else I saw on youtube if you wanted to limit it to just youtubers.
Hi Scott, what type of filters do you use with your respirator mask
Feeling called out by this video lol. I've got so many minis I start and then get bored/distracted by new stuff. :D
Miniac: a bit more of 100 minis partially painted.
Me: looking painfully at more than 200 UNpainted minis xD
So excited to hear the UK will be able to get our hands on your merch easily. Been waiting on this for about 3 years! Keep being you. Mindatures if you remember. Peace and love brother.
So, another army challenge? Get it done for a game of 4th?aybe job would be down! I truly loved those army challenges videos. I subscribed because of them.
I beat that with just my 80-90's Space Orks :D
I think I have too many minis...
Should've cut to a deadpan Ninjon when you pondered if you'd swapped mini's back to him.
Having been in the hobby for three decades that seems like an eminently manageable backlog. I've been trying to complete at least two projects for every one I start with limited success. If I didn't start any new projects (haha) I might be able to get everything I've started (does not include nib stuff) done in another decade. *Sigh*
ill paint like 40 hours on a model then put it on the shelf then come back to it a yea4r later and put another 40 hours on it to finish it up
I'm from Argentina where our economy doesn't allow us to get this hobby available for many of us. I'm fortunate enough to have a lot of jobs (so I have a above average salary) and still manage to get 1 or 2 days a week to paint. That being said I have 2 half boxes of primaris space marines, 2 nurgle space marine heroes and I think 1 or 2 skitarii guys. Then I have 8 aeldari resin models and 10 night lords (soon to be 4 since I'm starting to paint 6 of them tomorrow).
TOTAL: 26 unpainted models (more or less)
YOU MENTIONED THE MOVIE "DARK CITY"!!! DUDE SUCH A HIDDEN GEM OF THE 90's
This makes me feel so much better about the host of unfinished paint projects I have.
dude that red vader is rad as hell
Nice, i order from pk-pro at least once or twice a month. Nice Dark City refrence, i love that movie. Is that the valljeo game color paints in the box on youre desk